Liberals Converting to Conservatism - Why Not The Other Way Around?

[Ray From Cleveland]

If you're 20 and not a democrat...you have no heart.

If you're 40 and not a republican...you have no brain

CON$ervatism is a HATE religion.

It sure is dog gone it:

 

[ptbw forever]

The problem for liberals is the fact that you don't need to be a conservative to oppose their orthodoxy. Progressivism will destroy the Democratic Party.

The secret is actually that there aren't many conservative kids to begin with. More and more liberal kids are rejecting the main platforms of the Democrats for purely ideological reasons.

It's been going back and forth for some years now. But after DumBama came in with an all Democrat Congress and Senate, people got a taste of what true liberalism/ Socialism was, and we didn't like it.

Since that time, people started to become more conservative and especially more Republican. With the exception of Obama's reelection (since people liked him personally so much) he lost ground almost every year and we gained.

So let's hope the bad taste of Socialism stays with Americans for at least a generation. Remember what it was like when we went there before.

Socialism is actually growing in popularity in spite of the Democrats(who are actually just fascists).

White millenials will always like socialism, but they won't always like the Democrats(who largely hate white people unabashedly now).

Democrats don't hate white people. They became the anti-white party to create a one-party government. Once they can make whites a minority in this country, they will have the ability to disable Republican leadership forever. That's why they are trying so hard to make us a minority.

White Democrat cucks might want that to happen, but the non-white Democrats mostly just want to enslave us or destroy us entirely, and the non-whites are the real power players in the party now(as you will see in 2020).

In reality, making whites a minority would be pretty much unnecessary if Democrats weren't anti-white, because millennials are all left wing on basically every issue, and we are the future of the country.

It is the anti-whiteness that moves millenials to the Republican Party, nothing else.

Oh, I agree with you there. Those whites who are starting to realize their party is against them are leaving the party as well.

But it's all about numbers. Every other race votes a majority Democrat every election: the Arabs, the Asians, the Hispanics, the blacks, the Jews, everybody else. White millennials can switch as they become more aware, but minority groups less likely. Once whites are a minority, then we will experience the end of the great experiment. It will be a one-party government forever, or until the country implodes.

Once whites become a minority, this country will cease to exist(likely much sooner than that).

It is already teetering on the edge just because of how pathetic baby boomers are compared to their parents. Millennials are just a bunch of robots who don't have a clue how to run a country.

 

[edthecynic]

William F. Buckley said it best when he used to quote Voeglin, that liberals are attempting to "immanentize the eschaton."

Whereas CON$ are attempting to create hell on Earth!

 

[edthecynic]

If you're 20 and not a democrat...you have no heart.

If you're 40 and not a republican...you have no brain

CON$ervatism is a HATE religion.

It sure is dog gone it:

Your MessiahRushie beat her by 8 years!!!

March 5, 2008
RUSH: I think, if I may be serious for a moment, we're in a war, a political war in this country, and only one side is fully engaged and that's the enemy, and our enemy happens to be liberalism which is found in the Democrat Party.

 

[Dragonlady]

Ariana Huffington used to be a conservative.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Metamorphosis to Halitosis

RINOs campaign as Conservatives, but after they get to Washington and inhale the fumes from the swamp, they turn into Liberal pachyderms.

 

[Avatar4321]

If you're 20 and not a democrat...you have no heart.

If you're 40 and not a republican...you have no brain

CON$ervatism is a HATE religion.

And yet its not hate or a religion. Go figure

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If you're 20 and not a democrat...you have no heart.

If you're 40 and not a republican...you have no brain

CON$ervatism is a HATE religion.

It sure is dog gone it:

Your MessiahRushie beat her by 8 years!!!

March 5, 2008
RUSH: I think, if I may be serious for a moment, we're in a war, a political war in this country, and only one side is fully engaged and that's the enemy, and our enemy happens to be liberalism which is found in the Democrat Party.

I see. So what you're trying to do is compare an ideology to a party, and say that's apples to apples.

How liberal of you.

 

[toobfreak]

Hillary was once a "Goldwater girl". The dirty little secret is that peer pressure and academic pressure by liberal professors in institutes of higher learning cause ten times more conservative kids to convert to liberalism. It's a rare courageous kid who comes out of college a conservative.

Hillary was a Goldwater Girl because at the time it was the best opportunity to advance her career. A few years later she was helping impeach Nixon. Go with the flow. The Clintons don't do anything that isn't beneficial to them somehow. And I don't think any good conservatives are being converted; professors get a hold of kids while they are still impressionable, not yet really sure of the world and mold them to their ideologies, one of the main ways that democrats keep up their ranks: through coercion. Even as adults, democrats in congress are kept in line by fear of retaliation if they step out of the ranks; what did Debbie Schultz tell that cop if he didn't return her computer? That there would be "consequences?" Liberals can't be straight up about anything as they live in a warped space, and even when it looks straight to them, it is still warped, they just can't see it.

People might be swayed towards liberalism in college, some resist, others go along just to get through; if any of them are really conservative by nature, in time eventually the shrillness and hollow convolutions of liberalism will wear thin on them and they find their place, and like I say, the very best conservatives are people who started out as liberals, until they couldn't stand the stink of it anymore and get burned by the hypocrisy.

Something must be right because the true Hard Left is a small but radicalized minority in this country. Most people grow up to become at least moderate if not Right-leaning, and find better things to do with their life than protest, march and devolve into some sort of anarchist hate group doodling silly cartoons about people they have never even met and really don't know the first thing about.

 

[FA_Q2]

Actually both parties are losing numbers, while Independents make up a larger number than either party. It's becoming a long term trend.
People are sick of narrow-minded partisan politics that get nothing done that is targeted for all citizens benefits.
In U.S., New Record 43% Are Political Independents
The Fastest-Growing Voting Bloc In America Isn't What You Think It Is
.

The question asks more than examples of individuals who have converted from liberalism to conservatism or the other way around. Rather: "What is the natural political state of Americans?"

Oh, that's easy!

The answer is: Independent.

]

Except that statistic is very misleading.
Most political independents actually aren’t

What this tells me is that Americans are becoming MORE partisan and more entrenched in parties but for some odd reason are less likely to admit to even themselves that they are.

It is a sad state of affairs.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

People might be swayed towards liberalism in college, some resist, others go along just to get through; if any of them are really conservative by nature, in time eventually the shrillness and hollow convolutions of liberalism will wear thin on them and they find their place, and like I say, the very best conservatives are people who started out as liberals, until they couldn't stand the stink of it anymore and get burned by the hypocrisy.

This is very true. My nephew was raised in a conservative household. After a few years of college, he came over and started to go on about some liberal nonsense, I forget what it was now. Anyway, I straightened him out right there and he quickly came back to his senses. I don't know if that would have been possible if he had liberal relatives.

The indoctrination starts early. First in primary school, then Hollywood and media as they grow up, then college. Some people have strong enough minds to resist brainwashing and others have very weak minds and just do as they are told.

 

[Pete7469]

not all liberals and conservatives are democrats and republicans.
That is good news either way, though. Fuck the duopoly

The bottom line is the democrooks and libturds are wrong, on every issue except the drug war. However their motivation is not to advance freedom, it's to promote drug addiction and other problems and their go to solution will always be massive doses of tax payer dollars.

Anyone who opposes the global collectivists is a decent human being in comparison.

 

[IsaacNewton]

I've heard of many cases where a liberal or a progressive suddenly "sees the light" and becomes a fine upstanding conservative. But very seldom do you ever hear of a conservative becoming a liberal. Why is that?

List of former liberals - Conservapedia

NYT: Liberal Teenagers May Turn Into Generation of Conservatives

You see and hear what you want.

 

[Crixus]

Actually both parties are losing numbers, while Independents make up a larger number than either party. It's becoming a long term trend.
People are sick of narrow-minded partisan politics that get nothing done that is targeted for all citizens benefits.
In U.S., New Record 43% Are Political Independents
The Fastest-Growing Voting Bloc In America Isn't What You Think It Is
.

Pretty much. It's why we have president Trump. He is Americas "fuck you" to the establishment and they have not learned yet that it's not going to get better for them,( the political elite) in 2018. Let them continue to act as they are. I'm thinking we will see baffled news folks on election night 2018.

 

[Kondor3]

Intelligent people shift their views routinely and on multiple occasions throughout their lifetimes, as new environments and circumstances and experiences come their way.

As to the stereotypical assumption that people more frequently morph from Liberal to Conservative, well, there is some merit in that observation...

It has a lot to do with age and wealth accumulation...

Impassioned young folk are most frequently Social Justice Warriors, and oftentimes, albeit not always, gradually develop a conservative nature...

When you stop whining about how wrong the world is, and set to work, and get busy with a family, career, mortgage, etc., you don't have much time for SJW fun-and-games...

One day you wake up, and realize that you've voted Republican three or four elections in a row, and realize that you're shifting into the Conservative Camp...

To protect what you've worked for, you let the Republicans trash what's been done during Democratic administrations, and you let 'em slash taxes and regulations...

To protect what you've worked for, you even let 'em go so far as to dismantle or weaken the Safety Net, as much as they can get away with, to keep your tax rate low...

Until that day when your family loses a wage-earner, or you lose a job, or suffer a huge uninsured economic loss, whatever... and you suddenly need the Safety Net again...

Remember the scene in the 1980s movie "The Big Chill" where two of the guys reminisce and mourn over their lost innocence and their present focus upon wealth?

Remember the old maxim: "A man who is not a Liberal in his youth has no heart. A Man who is not a Conservative in old age has no brains"? - Winston Churchill (apocryphal)

Oftentimes, the shift from Liberalism to Conservatism is a matter of personal growth and evolution.

Oftentimes, that shift is attributable to wealth accumulation and the desire to protect that wealth.

Oftentimes, that shift is due to environment or propagandizing or brainwashing regardless of personal circumstances (the flat-broke toothless Billy-Jo-Bob -type Pubs)...

Sometimes, it begins as a knee-jerk reaction to Liberals having gone too far in Area A or B or C, and an instinctive need to stop them, then slipping into Maintenance Mode...

There are a great many reasons, and the above only scratches the surface, but... yeah... folks shift most frequently, Left to Right, rather than Right to Left...

Of course, sometimes, when the Right goes too far, in transforming Bedford Falls into Pottersville, folks CAN shift en masse from Right back towards the Left...

But that doesn't happen very often, nor does it seem to last very long, in the grander scheme of things.

 

[toobfreak]

My nephew was raised in a conservative household. After a few years of college, he came over and started to go on about some liberal nonsense, I forget what it was now. Anyway, I straightened him out right there and he quickly came back to his senses. I don't know if that would have been possible if he had liberal relatives.

The indoctrination starts early. First in primary school, then Hollywood and media as they grow up, then college. Some people have strong enough minds to resist brainwashing and others have very weak minds and just do as they are told.

Liberals operate on the edict that if you tell a lie often enough, it becomes the truth. A person might be washed ashore as a child onto some deserted island, but on his own, conservative principles would be self-evident to him. No one comes to the conclusions all by themselves that liberal policies are just self-evident--- liberals are created by a constant badgering from all sides, first the grade schools with their rewritten history and flaky teachers, television which of course is all made in California (or NYC), then you have your politicians evoking laws which reflect liberal views while they go about the nation stumping the public with liberal speeches. Then they get to college where the professors absolutely hammer them with liberalism in a militant way, getting the kids by then worked up into a froth that the world is about to end tomorrow if they do not act and that some horrible injustice is being perpetrated, finally, they get to the workplace where all the liberals try to surround you and if you check out, they absorb you like a protein molecule, indoctrinate you, motivate you and get you enlisted into some activist liberal function, because you know, there is just so much urgent work to be done and if you DON'T smell liberal to them, they shun you, oppose you, despise you, reject you and try to drive you out.

Therefore conservatism is a natural state that happens all by itself which is why many in the GOP often don't exactly agree on things because they all see and operate a bit independently as free-thinking people, whereas liberalism is not a free, natural state, it requires a great amount of energy put into the system constantly to keep it afloat and produces only one single product cookie-cutter style: liberals.

 

[NYcarbineer]

 

[peach174]

Yeah and the democratic party represented that 25% in ideology for the last twenty years and this is the results.
68% got sick and tired of it.
You can't ignore the majority and expect to win anything.

 

[kiwiman127]

Actually both parties are losing numbers, while Independents make up a larger number than either party. It's becoming a long term trend.
People are sick of narrow-minded partisan politics that get nothing done that is targeted for all citizens benefits.
In U.S., New Record 43% Are Political Independents
The Fastest-Growing Voting Bloc In America Isn't What You Think It Is
.

The question asks more than examples of individuals who have converted from liberalism to conservatism or the other way around. Rather: "What is the natural political state of Americans?"

Oh, that's easy!

The answer is: Independent.

]

Except that statistic is very misleading.
Most political independents actually aren’t

What this tells me is that Americans are becoming MORE partisan and more entrenched in parties but for some odd reason are less likely to admit to even themselves that they are.

It is a sad state of affairs.

Both the Republican Party and the Democrat Party are seeing dropping numbers in regard to affiliation.
Party Affiliation
Here's an interesting article you might find interesting.
Independents Rule but GOP, Dem, & Media Establishment Says Everything Is Fine

 

[FA_Q2]

Actually both parties are losing numbers, while Independents make up a larger number than either party. It's becoming a long term trend.
People are sick of narrow-minded partisan politics that get nothing done that is targeted for all citizens benefits.
In U.S., New Record 43% Are Political Independents
The Fastest-Growing Voting Bloc In America Isn't What You Think It Is
.

The question asks more than examples of individuals who have converted from liberalism to conservatism or the other way around. Rather: "What is the natural political state of Americans?"

Oh, that's easy!

The answer is: Independent.

]

Except that statistic is very misleading.
Most political independents actually aren’t

What this tells me is that Americans are becoming MORE partisan and more entrenched in parties but for some odd reason are less likely to admit to even themselves that they are.

It is a sad state of affairs.

Both the Republican Party and the Democrat Party are seeing dropping numbers in regard to affiliation.
Party Affiliation
Here's an interesting article you might find interesting.
Independents Rule but GOP, Dem, & Media Establishment Says Everything Is Fine

The point is that by party affiliation people are becoming 'independent' but that Independence is not actually showing up at the pools. Those independents vote reliably down party lines with which way that the 'lean.'

IOW, it is an illusion that people are becoming more independent. This last election highlighted that very well - at a time when both candidates enjoyed the worst numbers ever in trust and support the independent candidates were still unable to attain anywhere near the 15 percent required to even get on stage let alone actually challenge the political parties.