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List all the reasons why we need a Federal Government

E currencies are more risky than distressed debt. You can't fund an economy on that.

That makes no sense. e-currencies were an example I gave, but your statement is illogical. e-currency means it's electronic, but there are no inherent rules. Any statement that e-currency has a certain risk because it's e-currency is bull shit.

Distressed debt on the other hand is actually risky. Again, I do this for a living. I would help you if I know what you were trying to say, but I don't, sorry
 
Then answer the question without insult. How are the individual states going to buy all that metal? Texas, California, yes they could, but again-Miss, Alabama, Kentucky, Idaho, Montana's, they don't have purchasing power on that scale.
There was a long period at the beginning of our nation in which individual states and banks issued their own currency.

It was a total disaster.

Libertarians live in a pipe dream.
 
Yes, Zincwarrior was wrong about that one. We got off metal because government wanted to be able to endlessly print money. They weren't trying to "find enough" medal, they didn't want to be constrained by it.

Currency is one of the few border issues with "there can be only one." But that is one where government does so much harm even though there is not an easy solution for daily life
Cryptocurrency proved that government control is not necessary.
 
Why would we need a "national" military? We have over 400m guns in this country. Who the hell is going to invade us?
If we were to get rid of the oppressive fed gov, there would be more guns. Better guns.
No one would fuck with us.
So you’re saying we don’t need a national military.

How exactly do we defend ourself if China invades us? Walk me through it.
 
I asked: Can you guys name a country that doesn’t have a federal government?

Are there any?
Its an irrelevant question. Buuuuut
Somalia is one of the most well-known examples of a country with no government. This state of Anarchy lasted from 1991 to 2006. After a dictator called Siad Barre was ousted from power in 1991, no government ever replaced him. Instead, the country plunged into a period of time that was lawless and without any semblance of government. Instead of having a government, the Somalians reverted back to old clan systems and customs. The rule of law was the "Xeer," and ancient system where a council of elders decides the best way to settle disputes on a case-by-case basis. Although there were no rules or laws so to speak, the Xeer guaranteed safe passage, trade, and marriage for people throughout Somalia to certain extent. Rural Somalians didn't even notice the change, since they had been using the Xeer long before the old government fell anyway. Interestingly, under this state of Anarchy no Somalians ever had to pay taxes, as this was forbidden under the Xeer.

Because there was no government imposing taxes and regulations, businesses were able to step in and offer services at incredibly cheap rates. Somalians enjoyed some of the cheapest and best cell phone services in all of Africa. They also had several privately owned newspapers, electricity provided on a local basis, and one entrepreneur even supplied one hospital with free electricity. Mogadishu had its first gas stations built during this state of Anarchy. Their currency was based on a mixture of real money and forgeries of pre-1991 bills. The forgeries were treated as having equal value to the real bills. The world bank stated that economies might actually be able to function better without a government, because there is no central bank, and no one has to pay for government services as they are all provided by private businesses.
 
Your map betrays you. Look at the GDP of the different states. Missouri has the GDP of Pakistan. Oklahoma - Iraq. Uzbekistan? This is where you want to go?
Do you not understand businesses would flourish with no excessive, oppressive central govt?
 
Its an irrelevant question. Buuuuut
Somalia is one of the most well-known examples of a country with no government. This state of Anarchy lasted from 1991 to 2006. After a dictator called Siad Barre was ousted from power in 1991, no government ever replaced him. Instead, the country plunged into a period of time that was lawless and without any semblance of government. Instead of having a government, the Somalians reverted back to old clan systems and customs. The rule of law was the "Xeer," and ancient system where a council of elders decides the best way to settle disputes on a case-by-case basis. Although there were no rules or laws so to speak, the Xeer guaranteed safe passage, trade, and marriage for people throughout Somalia to certain extent. Rural Somalians didn't even notice the change, since they had been using the Xeer long before the old government fell anyway. Interestingly, under this state of Anarchy no Somalians ever had to pay taxes, as this was forbidden under the Xeer.

Because there was no government imposing taxes and regulations, businesses were able to step in and offer services at incredibly cheap rates. Somalians enjoyed some of the cheapest and best cell phone services in all of Africa. They also had several privately owned newspapers, electricity provided on a local basis, and one entrepreneur even supplied one hospital with free electricity. Mogadishu had its first gas stations built during this state of Anarchy. Their currency was based on a mixture of real money and forgeries of pre-1991 bills. The forgeries were treated as having equal value to the real bills. The world bank stated that economies might actually be able to function better without a government, because there is no central bank, and no one has to pay for government services as they are all provided by private businesses.
So we want to replicate the great success that has been demonstrated in…Somalia???
 
Cryptocurrency proved that government control is not necessary.

For people like you and me, no. But coming up with a solution that only works for 20% of the country isn't a solution. The other 80% just become armies for today's Hitlers and Stalins. Which is the point no anarchist has ever been able to address. Well, one of them. But a big one
 
Speaking of crypto and states issuing their own currencies, there are a lot of parallels between the two.

There have been thousands of crypto currencies issued. Most of them have gone tits up. Quite a few were outright scams. And none of them are a reliable means of exchange.

That's the way it was in the beginning of the US. If some rube from Deep South presented a Mississippi quadloo in Connecticut for a sack of flour, the clerk had to check the going exchange rate between Mississippi quadloos and Connecticut boodles to find out what to charge for the sack of flour, and that exchange rate varied wildly from day to day.
 
Also Somalia:

Famine looms in Somalia, but many ‘hunger hotspots’ are in deep trouble

A one-year-old girl is treated for malnutrition at a WFP-funded clinic in Dolow in Somalia.

© WFP/Samantha Reinders
A one-year-old girl is treated for malnutrition at a WFP-funded clinic in Dolow in Somalia.

21 September 2022

The number of people facing life-threatening levels of hunger worldwide without immediate humanitarian aid, is expected to rise steeply in coming weeks, the UN said on Wednesday, in a new alert about looming famine in the Horn of Africa and beyond.
In Somalia, “hundreds of thousands are already facing starvation today with staggering levels of malnutrition expected among children under five,” warned the Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) and the World Food Programme (WFP).


“Large-scale deaths from hunger” are increasingly likely in the east African nation, the UN agencies continued, noting that unless “adequate” help arrives, analysts expect that by December, “as many as four children or two adults per 10,000 people, will die every day
Its AFRICA dingus :lol:
 
Why would they need their own monetary system?
What kind of foreign policy would we need besides trade deals and such?
Why would we need aircraft carriers?

Several states have already implemented their own gold-backed currencies.

They can also be spent in other states that do the same.

I've reported on several instances over the last couple of years.

And I think a couple of dozen more state have legislation in the works to further implement. Actually, I'm sure of it.

You just don't hear that kind of thing on the idiot box.

And, so, because it's not on the idiot box, we don't see it mentioned otherwise in places like this on the web. You know how that goes. Most topicals are just a mirror image of what's on the idiot box.

Which is why it's refreshing to see Bootney take the initiative to raise this kind of discussion.
 
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