Majority of voters blame parents, not Trump administration, for child separation at border: Poll

[Coyote]

That is Rassmussen....here are some other polls.

Multiple polls showing 2/3 of Americans oppose the policy.
Separating Families At The Border Is Really Unpopular

Red state Texas....UT/TT Poll: Most Texas voters oppose family separation at the border, with greater support among men and Republicans

Rass is only polling "likely voters" which may skew it and it tends to consistently skew right. Given the preponderance of other polls indicating a dislike of the policy I think it is an outlier.

It is sad none the less that any one supports this.

Eat shit.

I totally support it.

No. I do not share your culinary preferences.

 

[Rustic]

The people I blame the most are the "leaders" (ha) of these countries, so proud to help their people escape their miserable shit holes.

What a great campaign slogan for them: "We're corrupt as hell, we'll help you find a way out".

Actually, the main reason why those countries are such "shitholes" as you and your hero Trump call them is because our insatiable appetite for illicit drugs have made them so.

Blaming everything but the source... Fuck these illegal aliens

 

[JoeB131]

If we refused to let these people in, there might be a major revolution in those countries which would improve them for their people....

If Americans stopped getting high on copious amounts of drugs, there wouldn't be violence in those countries to start with.

 

[JoeB131]

Criminals are using these kids to get into the country...drug runners and human traffickers know that under obama, they would be released if they had a kid with them......

Except Obama sent more people back than Bush did. But never mind.

He wasn't being cruel enough, like Trump is.

 

[Two Thumbs]

It appears Trump was actually winning that battle. Snowflakes are fooling themselves if they believe immigration is a winning issue for them:

Majority of voters blame parents, not the federal government, for border crisis: Poll​

A majority of voters blame the parents of the separated children at the southwestern border for the current immigration crisis, not the federal government, according to a new poll.

“When families are arrested and separated after attempting to enter the United States illegally, 54 percent of likely U.S. voters say the parents are more to blame for breaking the law,” says a Rasmussen Reports survey released Thursday.

Rasmussen found 35 percent believe the federal government is more to blame for enforcing the law, while 11 percent are not sure about the situation.

“A closer look shows that 82 percent of Republicans and 56 percent of voters not affiliated with either major political party feel the parents are more to blame for breaking the law. But 60 percent of Democrats say the government is more to blame for enforcing the law,” the poll said.

Among all voters, 49 percent say the administration is “too aggressive” in its efforts to stop illegal immigration, a view shared by 23 percent of Republicans, 46 percent of independents and 75 percent of Democrats.

Still, a quarter of all voters say those efforts are not aggressive enough, while 21 percent view the administration’s policies as about right. ​

If you risk your kids life, the kids should be taken away for their own safety.

not that that fact means shit to leftists

 

[bripat9643]

Criminals are using these kids to get into the country...drug runners and human traffickers know that under obama, they would be released if they had a kid with them......

Except Obama sent more people back than Bush did. But never mind.

He wasn't being cruel enough, like Trump is.

That's pure horseshit. Obama simply changed the way deportees were counted to include those turned back at the border. He actually returned far less than Bush. Of course, Bush also favored open borders, so that isn't much of an accomplishment anyway.

 

[Valerie]

 

[Valerie]

"Most of the parents who have been impacted by Trump's "zero tolerance" policy have presented themselves as political asylum-seekers at a U.S. port-of-entry, from El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras. Rather than processing their claims, they have been taken into custody on the spot and had their children ripped from their arms. The ACLU alleges that this practice violates the Asylum Act, and the UN asserts that it violates the UN Treaty on the State of Refugees, one of the few treaties the US has ratified. This is an illegal act on the part of the United States government, not to mention morally and ethically reprehensible."

 

[Valerie]

"What changed was the administration’s handling of these cases. Undocumented immigrant families seeking asylum previously were released and went into the civil court system, but now the parents are being detained and sent to criminal courts while their kids are resettled in the United States as though they were unaccompanied minors."

 

[Valerie]

GET INFORMED. TRUMP'S EXCUSES ARE DISGUSTING LIES.

Myth-busting thread ahead:

The catastrophe unfolding at the border is ENTIRELY on TRUMP's shoulders. He has demonized the poor, the uneducated, the desperate, the foreign, the brown, the black. To the point that his supporters are able to defend crimes of humanity against them and say THEY DESERVE IT.

If you can defend this calamity, you have truly lost your ability to reason and your soul.

Trump would LIKE you to believe that his concentration camps on the border are policy that existed under Obama and Clinton. GET INFORMED.

 

[Valerie]

Myth: We're a country that respects the Rule of Law, and if people break the law, this is what they get - FALSE. We are a country that has an above-ground system of immigration and an underground system. Our government (under both parties) has always been aware that US companies recruit workers in the poorest parts of Mexico for cheap labor, and ICE (and its predecessor INS) has looked the other way because this underground economy benefits our country to the tune of billions of dollars annually. Thus, even though the majority of people crossing the border now are asylum-seekers, those who are economic migrants (migrant workers) likely have been recruited here to do jobs Americans will not do. https://www.upi.com/…/Donald-Trumps-wall-ign…/2621477498203/

Myth: The children have to be separated from their parents because there parents must be arrested and it would be cruel to put children in jail with their parents - FALSE. First, in the case of economic migrants crossing the border illegally, criminal prosecution has not been the legal norm, and families have been kept together at all cost. Also, crossing the border without documentation is a typically a misdemeanor not requiring arrest, but rather a civil proceeding. Additionally, parents who have been detained have historically been detained with their children in ICE "family residential centers," again, for civil processing. The Trump administration's shift in policy is for political purposes only, not legal ones. See p. 18: https://www.aclu.org/…/ms-l-v-ice-plaintiffs-opposition-def…

Myth: We have rampant fraud in our asylum process the proof of which is the significant increase we have in the number of people applying for asylum. FALSE. The increase in asylum seekers is a direct result of the increase in civil conflict and violence across the globe. While some people may believe that we shouldn't allow any refugees into our country because "it's not our problem," neither our current asylum law, nor our ideological foundation as a country support such an isolationist approach. There is very little evidence to support Sessions' claim that abuse of our asylum-seeking policies is rampant. Also, what Sessions failed to mention is that the majority of asylum seekers are from China, not South of the border. Here is a very fair and balanced assessment of his statements: Fact-checking U.S. politics | PolitiFact…/jeff-sessions-claim-about-asyl…/

Myth: The Democrats caused this, "it's their law." FALSE. Neither the Republicans nor the Democrats caused this, the Trump administration did (although the Republicans could fix this today, and have refused). I believe what this myth refers to is the passage of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act, which were both passed under Clinton in 1996. These laws essentially made unauthorized entry into the US a crime (typically a misdemeanor for first-time offenders), but under both Republicans and Democrats, these cases were handled through civil deportation proceedings, not a criminal proceeding, which did not require separation. And again, even in cases where detainment was required, families were always kept together in family residential centers, unless the parents were deemed unfit (as mentioned above). Thus, Trump's assertion that he hates this policy but has no choice but to separate the parents from their children, because the Democrats "gave us this law" is false and nothing more than propaganda designed to compel negotiation on bad policy. https://www.independent.co.uk/…/trump-democrats-us-border-m…

Myth: The parents and children will be reunited shortly, once the parents' court cases are finalized. FALSE. Criminal court is a vastly different beast than civil court proceedings. Also, the children are being processed as unaccompanied minors ("unaccompanied alien children"), which typically means they are sent into the custody of the Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR), which is part of the Department of Health and Human Services (DHS). Under normal circumstances when a child enters the country without his or her parent, ORR attempts to locate a family member within a few weeks, and the child is then released to a family member, or if a family member cannot be located, the child is placed in a residential center (anywhere in the country), or in some cases, foster care. Prior to Trump's new policy, ORR was operating at 95% capacity, and they simply cannot effectively manage the influx of 2000+ children, some as young as 4 months. Also, keep in mind, these are not unaccompanied minor children, they have parents. There is great legal ambiguity on how and even whether the parents will get their children back because we are in uncharted territory right now. According to the ACLU lawsuit, there is currently no easy vehicle for reuniting parents with their children. Additionally, according to a May 2018 report, numerous cases of verbal, physical and sexual abuse were found to have occurred in these residential centers. https://www.aclu.org/…/aclu-obtains-documents-showing-wides…

 

[Valerie]

"Most of the parents who have been impacted by Trump's "zero tolerance" policy have presented themselves as political asylum-seekers at a U.S. port-of-entry, from El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras. Rather than processing their claims, they have been taken into custody on the spot and had their children ripped from their arms."

 

[Valerie]

trump needs to make 2000 plus apologies

 

[Valerie]

 

[sparky]

Any parent, given the choice betwixt an existence in some sh*thole country ratf with drug lords, gangs, and sexual predators would want their kids in American detention

If there is some moral obligation , it would be better to confront those countries creating an exodus , instead of assuming their escapees and ignoring it



~S~

 

[rightwinger]

Oh, you found a poll on the Moonie Times to support your position.

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Come to think of it, Trump followers are acting more and more like a cult.

Not just any poll....a Rasmussen poll

 

[edward37]

That is Rassmussen....here are some other polls.

Multiple polls showing 2/3 of Americans oppose the policy.
Separating Families At The Border Is Really Unpopular

Red state Texas....UT/TT Poll: Most Texas voters oppose family separation at the border, with greater support among men and Republicans

Rass is only polling "likely voters" which may skew it and it tends to consistently skew right. Given the preponderance of other polls indicating a dislike of the policy I think it is an outlier.

It is sad none the less that any one supports this.

Eat shit.

I totally support it.

Sure you do cause you're one sick MFer A republican ,,,but I repeat myself

 

[2aguy]

Criminals are using these kids to get into the country...drug runners and human traffickers know that under obama, they would be released if they had a kid with them......

Except Obama sent more people back than Bush did. But never mind.

He wasn't being cruel enough, like Trump is.

Wrong...they cheated on that count....

 

[2aguy]

"What changed was the administration’s handling of these cases. Undocumented immigrant families seeking asylum previously were released and went into the civil court system, but now the parents are being detained and sent to criminal courts while their kids are resettled in the United States as though they were unaccompanied minors."

Because they would not show up for their court dates and became illegal alien permanent democrat voters...

 

[kaz]

It appears Trump was actually winning that battle. Snowflakes are fooling themselves if they believe immigration is a winning issue for them:

Majority of voters blame parents, not the federal government, for border crisis: Poll​

A majority of voters blame the parents of the separated children at the southwestern border for the current immigration crisis, not the federal government, according to a new poll.

“When families are arrested and separated after attempting to enter the United States illegally, 54 percent of likely U.S. voters say the parents are more to blame for breaking the law,” says a Rasmussen Reports survey released Thursday.

Rasmussen found 35 percent believe the federal government is more to blame for enforcing the law, while 11 percent are not sure about the situation.

“A closer look shows that 82 percent of Republicans and 56 percent of voters not affiliated with either major political party feel the parents are more to blame for breaking the law. But 60 percent of Democrats say the government is more to blame for enforcing the law,” the poll said.

Among all voters, 49 percent say the administration is “too aggressive” in its efforts to stop illegal immigration, a view shared by 23 percent of Republicans, 46 percent of independents and 75 percent of Democrats.

Still, a quarter of all voters say those efforts are not aggressive enough, while 21 percent view the administration’s policies as about right. ​

They blame the parents for wanting to leave all behind , leave horrendous living conditions looking for a better life ?
What kind of animals are those denying these wretches a better life?

And yet you lock your door, hypocrite