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It is our ancestors and history reaching out to us, their descendants, with lessons that might prove valuable to us.If the Bible is not the inspired Word of God it's just a bunch of nice stories from history.
And when we improve upon it and learn better, we put it away, just like any other childish toy we outgrow. It should go on the shelf with alchemy texts and primitive medical texts on using leeches to cure disease.It is our ancestors and history reaching out to us, their descendants, with lessons that might prove valuable to us
I have always said inspiration from God is not limited to the Bible. It could be argued there is Godly inspiration in the Constitution, Siddhartha, Budda, not to mention all the writings from the Saints. God reaches out to all.But you must see the flaw in that argument… again if it was truly the word of God then it would have the ability to transcend all of that. The fact that it was all written through the filter of man makes it no different than any other writing. Take the book Siddhartha for example. A story written by man about a spiritual journey. God can be found in this writing just as potently as the Bible. Agree or no?
Thank you, and right back at you. I got to where I am by seeking and finding God. I know some who say they found God via the Bible. For me it was the opposite as well. I knew Bible stories before I found God...that experience helped me to understand the Bible as it is meant to be. It is truly an amazing collection of books.I love you Meri, and i love how you post. Though I disagree heavily!
I have my point of view, and you're never going to change it, and I realize that i will never change yours.
You're a good person, regardless of how you got there.
I believe where we agree is that there are many paths to the Way of Eternal Life. We are, after all, such unique people with different ways and perspectives. The lost shall not be left behind.The most impactful things that effect how we live our lives come from interactions with others. That’s were we learn, observe and reflect on the “cause and effect” of life. Sometimes we read literature or watch movies and study other peoples experiences to learn these life lessons. This is why the Bible and church is so impactful. It merges everything and applies a focus and intent. Not a bad thing at all in it purest form. But also not the One and Only way to get there.
Jesus was an alien?Well, how about if aliens were our gods?
I believe where we agree is that there are many paths to the Way of Eternal Life. We are, after all, such unique people with different ways and perspectives. The lost shall not be left behind.
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I have no real opinion on aliens. I believe in God because I did the work of seeking and therefore finding Him. And, He is no alien.If you can believe in the god-construct, you have to leave open the alien option.
Aliens were our gods, back from the Sumerian times. Actually they weren't "gods" they were just the Anunnaki. "Those Who From Heaven to Earth Came".
That’s a great way of seeing it. KuddosI have always said inspiration from God is not limited to the Bible. It could be argued there is Godly inspiration in the Constitution, Siddhartha, Budda, not to mention all the writings from the Saints. God reaches out to all.
According to some....Jesus was an alien?
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Eternal life is inherent in our existence or it isn’t. I don’t believe the way we live this life has any impact on what eternity holds for us. Our energy or soul or whatever you want to call it will either transform to another form after we die or it won’t.I believe where we agree is that there are many paths to the Way of Eternal Life. We are, after all, such unique people with different ways and perspectives. The lost shall not be left behind.
Of course it is. Remember what Jesus said about being a good shepherd and about leaving the 99 to seek out the one that was lost. Jesus will bring the lost back to the way of Eternal Life, even if it means leaving me to do so. (I have confidence he can do both, but I would want him to leave me to find the loss when that is necessary.)This is not a Christian teaching. I do not think you can hold to it and be Christian.
*or doesn't exist at all, any more than the soul of an ant or of a bacterium.Eternal life is inherent in our existence or it isn’t. I don’t believe the way we live this life has any impact on what eternity holds for us. Our energy or soul or whatever you want to call it will either transform to another form after we die or it won’t.
And for the "Agnostic". I find myself quite cozy with Judeo- Christian beliefs. Yet I'm not "Christian". Why? Because the ancient sources observed, and understood human behavior. And as such.... They codified succcesful patterns of behavior for the less observant. Thus religion.It is possible, actually, for atheists and the unreligious to be moral (yet unsaved). That is because God's law (morality) is "written on their hearts". (Hebrews 8:10). If this were not so there could be no talk of morality whatsoever.
What the Bible says is that no one seeks God apart from the Spirit.
Like slavery? Like women as property?I fi b d myself quite cozy with Judeo- Christian beliefs.
Yes.Like slavery? Like women as property?
"Judeo-christian values" is a con. As if the values of property ownership and "murder is bad,mmmkay" are the providence of Abrahamic religions... they aren't.
It's a con. Include all the "good" values we managed to figure out across the globe anyway, ignore all the evil horseshit.
Right. We were dancing around the same thing.Yes.
