Marriage Matters: Consequences of Redefining Marriage

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"studies"....? yeah i bet those studies are really unbiased too....i doubt that there has even been enough time and subjects and studies to do a thorough job of it....there have been studies on single mothers and the ramifications to the child are very negative...

do the "studies" you mention cover the pain of a child who wonders who his real mother or who his real father is....? who wonders who his ancestors are on the 'lost' side of his family....? who has to deal with half a family who are not related....? who prefers to skip father-son outings because he has no father...? who is the butt of jokes or insensitive questioning at school....? who wonders who he really is....? and so forth....? these are things that are almost impossible to measure in a 'study'....

even a child who has experienced divorce knows who both his real parents are...

'gay marriage' is not the same thing as marriage....

(speaking of divorce....i've heard divorce rates for gays and lesbians are even higher than for straight couples....)

You want to defend marriage?

Why not ban divorced people from remarrying? They'd have already defiled the institution of marriage more than gays have

who needs to ban it....? half the kids today are already products of of non-married parents....

Secularism has already eroded our divorce laws.....today people can run around like rabbits.....get married for a couple hours or so....marriage has no real meaning anymore...the 'gay marriage' thing is just another tool to destroy marriage...

Godless Secularism also promote promiscuity....prostitution....pornography.....perversion....

And obviously the ‘remedy’ to ‘secularism’ is to create a Christian Republic with Christianity as the official state religion.

The ayatollahs would be happy to help you out with that.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Studies of the children of gay parents prove you wrong. Our children are at no disadvantage to yours.

There have been quite a few studies in recent years and they have come to the conclusion that Children in gay adoptions at no disadvantage

Did you really ask that? Are you aware of how long adoption has been going on?



Lots of studies on single parenting too.



My children know who their real parents are...my spouse and I are their REAL parents in all ways that matter. Legally and emotionally (as well as biologically). I gave birth to both of them (with gay sperm) so they know who their donor too.

'gay marriage' is not the same thing as marriage....

Really? Tell me how it's different...

I get up, make coffee, post here, take a shower, wake up my son, make his lunch, feed the animals, kiss my daughter and spouse goodbye, drop him at the bus stop and go to work where I toil 8 hours. I get home to a clean house and a home-cooked meal because we decided that one of us being home for the kids at all times was important. We work on homework, watch some TV, read and go to bed...to do it all over the next day.

How is my marriage "not the same"?

(speaking of divorce....i've heard divorce rates for gays and lesbians are even higher than for straight couples....)

You heard wrong.

why would anyone trust studies done or funded by lefties....? reminds me of the studies on global warming....

why would you CHOOSE to have a child and dispense with its father....? pretty selfish and uncaring of the child if you ask me...

 

[ScreamingEagle]

You want to defend marriage?

Why not ban divorced people from remarrying? They'd have already defiled the institution of marriage more than gays have

who needs to ban it....? half the kids today are already products of of non-married parents....

Secularism has already eroded our divorce laws.....today people can run around like rabbits.....get married for a couple hours or so....marriage has no real meaning anymore...the 'gay marriage' thing is just another tool to destroy marriage...

Godless Secularism also promote promiscuity....prostitution....pornography.....perversion....

And obviously the ‘remedy’ to ‘secularism’ is to create a Christian Republic with Christianity as the official state religion.

The ayatollahs would be happy to help you out with that.

who said that...? you guys are so fearful of religion it's hilarious...

however despite your love of anti-God Secularism it's pretty obvious it's been a flop.....

 

[tooAlive]

The fact is that kids do not need a mother and a father. If they did, it would be illegal to be a single parent. Instead, single women have babies all the time, and no one bats an eye.

Being a single parent isn't illegal the same way driving with a spare tire isn't illegal.

Four full-sized tires are always better, but the spare can be used occasionally in case of emergencies. But for the complete safety of all the passengers and maximum handling capability, you definitely want all four original tires.

The same way a family needs the stability of a man and a woman.

 

[Seawytch]

There have been quite a few studies in recent years and they have come to the conclusion that Children in gay adoptions at no disadvantage

Did you really ask that? Are you aware of how long adoption has been going on?



Lots of studies on single parenting too.



My children know who their real parents are...my spouse and I are their REAL parents in all ways that matter. Legally and emotionally (as well as biologically). I gave birth to both of them (with gay sperm) so they know who their donor too.



Really? Tell me how it's different...

I get up, make coffee, post here, take a shower, wake up my son, make his lunch, feed the animals, kiss my daughter and spouse goodbye, drop him at the bus stop and go to work where I toil 8 hours. I get home to a clean house and a home-cooked meal because we decided that one of us being home for the kids at all times was important. We work on homework, watch some TV, read and go to bed...to do it all over the next day.

How is my marriage "not the same"?

(speaking of divorce....i've heard divorce rates for gays and lesbians are even higher than for straight couples....)

You heard wrong.

why would anyone trust studies done or funded by lefties....? reminds me of the studies on global warming....

why would you CHOOSE to have a child and dispense with its father....? pretty selfish and uncaring of the child if you ask me...

Our children don't feel that way.

 

[bodecea]

"studies"....? yeah i bet those studies are really unbiased too....i doubt that there has even been enough time and subjects and studies to do a thorough job of it....there have been studies on single mothers and the ramifications to the child are very negative...

do the "studies" you mention cover the pain of a child who wonders who his real mother or who his real father is....? who wonders who his ancestors are on the 'lost' side of his family....? who has to deal with half a family who are not related....? who prefers to skip father-son outings because he has no father...? who is the butt of jokes or insensitive questioning at school....? who wonders who he really is....? and so forth....? these are things that are almost impossible to measure in a 'study'....

even a child who has experienced divorce knows who both his real parents are...

'gay marriage' is not the same thing as marriage....

(speaking of divorce....i've heard divorce rates for gays and lesbians are even higher than for straight couples....)

You want to defend marriage?

Why not ban divorced people from remarrying? They'd have already defiled the institution of marriage more than gays have

who needs to ban it....? half the kids today are already products of of non-married parents....

Secularism has already eroded our divorce laws.....today people can run around like rabbits.....get married for a couple hours or so....marriage has no real meaning anymore...the 'gay marriage' thing is just another tool to destroy marriage...

Godless Secularism also promote promiscuity....prostitution....pornography.....perversion....

...the Constitution...equal rights for all law-abiding citizens....science...technology...common sense, not superstition....

I wonder if ScreamingEagle believes the Earth is only 6,000 years old, there was a Adam and Eve, and a Noah's ark?

 

[Barb]

If you can't sell your daughter for 3 goats and a cow - marriage has already BEEN redefined

 

[JohnA]

"studies"....? yeah i bet those studies are really unbiased too....i doubt that there has even been enough time and subjects and studies to do a thorough job of it....there have been studies on single mothers and the ramifications to the child are very negative...

do the "studies" you mention cover the pain of a child who wonders who his real mother or who his real father is....? who wonders who his ancestors are on the 'lost' side of his family....? who has to deal with half a family who are not related....? who prefers to skip father-son outings because he has no father...? who is the butt of jokes or insensitive questioning at school....? who wonders who he really is....? and so forth....? these are things that are almost impossible to measure in a 'study'....

even a child who has experienced divorce knows who both his real parents are...

'gay marriage' is not the same thing as marriage....

(speaking of divorce....i've heard divorce rates for gays and lesbians are even higher than for straight couples....)

You want to defend marriage?

Why not ban divorced people from remarrying? They'd have already defiled the institution of marriage more than gays have

who needs to ban it....? half the kids today are already products of of non-married parents....

Secularism has already eroded our divorce laws.....today people can run around like rabbits.....get married for a couple hours or so....marriage has no real meaning anymore...the 'gay marriage' thing is just another tool to destroy marriage...

Godless Secularism also promote promiscuity....prostitution....pornography.....perversion....

god loving bigots in the catholic church hide pedophilia

prostitutes were a staple of temple life in past years
religion promotes hate and bigotry

 

[The Rabbi]

There is no evidence that gay marriage will be positive to society and lots of evidence it will cost money. Why bother to satisfy the less than 3% of the population?

 

[ima]

People who are against gay marriage are homophobes. You don't get upset for no rational reason over something strangers do , especially when it's of so little consequence as marriage.

Btw, half of hetero marriages end in divorce and that nearly always, if not always screws up the kids. There, now you have something meaningful to protest against.

 

[Seawytch]

There is no evidence that gay marriage will be positive to society and lots of evidence it will cost money. Why bother to satisfy the less than 3% of the population?

So when did having a positive influence on society become a pre-requisite for marriage. Convicted mass murderers on death row have the right to marry. The SCOTUS said so. How is that "positive to society"?

What evidence do you have that my marriage will cost any more money than yours?

The people who join the military are less than 2% of the population. Why should we bother to satisfy them?

 

[DGS49]

All data on the children of gay "marriages" is self-reported. Anyone who has even sat through the first class in a statistics course knows that such data is immediately compromised and, for statistical purposes, worthless.

Yes, it's a fucked up world, and any child may be born outside marriage, or may be impacted by a nasty divorce, but bringing a child intentionally into a perverted "family" is a serious form of child abuse.

 

[ima]

All data on the children of gay "marriages" is self-reported. Anyone who has even sat through the first class in a statistics course knows that such data is immediately compromised and, for statistical purposes, worthless.

Yes, it's a fucked up world, and any child may be born outside marriage, or may be impacted by a nasty divorce, but bringing a child intentionally into a perverted "family" is a serious form of child abuse.

I think that bringing up a child in a hateful environment like yours would be by far, much more damaging to the child.

 

[The Rabbi]

There is no evidence that gay marriage will be positive to society and lots of evidence it will cost money. Why bother to satisfy the less than 3% of the population?

So when did having a positive influence on society become a pre-requisite for marriage. Convicted mass murderers on death row have the right to marry. The SCOTUS said so. How is that "positive to society"?

What evidence do you have that my marriage will cost any more money than yours?

The people who join the military are less than 2% of the population. Why should we bother to satisfy them?

It is the state's interest in according marital status to certain unions and not other unions.

Gay marriage will cost more because gay couples will demand (are demanding) all the benefits that actually married couples get. Or did you think those things come from the tooth fairy?

 

[Seawytch]

There is no evidence that gay marriage will be positive to society and lots of evidence it will cost money. Why bother to satisfy the less than 3% of the population?

So when did having a positive influence on society become a pre-requisite for marriage. Convicted mass murderers on death row have the right to marry. The SCOTUS said so. How is that "positive to society"?

What evidence do you have that my marriage will cost any more money than yours?

The people who join the military are less than 2% of the population. Why should we bother to satisfy them?

It is the state's interest in according marital status to certain unions and not other unions.

Gay marriage will cost more because gay couples will demand (are demanding) all the benefits that actually married couples get. Or did you think those things come from the tooth fairy?

Ya'll just can't keep your shit together can you? I could marry a man and get those cash and prizes...isn't that what ya'll keep telling us, that we have the same rights if we just marry the way YOU think we should? Wouldn't that give us those bennies anyway? So what's the difference? You're okay paying out the cash and prizes as long I'm fucking who YOU want me to fuck? How Authoritarian of you.

 

[The Rabbi]

So when did having a positive influence on society become a pre-requisite for marriage. Convicted mass murderers on death row have the right to marry. The SCOTUS said so. How is that "positive to society"?

What evidence do you have that my marriage will cost any more money than yours?

The people who join the military are less than 2% of the population. Why should we bother to satisfy them?

It is the state's interest in according marital status to certain unions and not other unions.

Gay marriage will cost more because gay couples will demand (are demanding) all the benefits that actually married couples get. Or did you think those things come from the tooth fairy?

Ya'll just can't keep your shit together can you? I could marry a man and get those cash and prizes...isn't that what ya'll keep telling us, that we have the same rights if we just marry the way YOU think we should? Wouldn't that give us those bennies anyway? So what's the difference? You're okay paying out the cash and prizes as long I'm fucking who YOU want me to fuck? How Authoritarian of you.

You appear to be becoming unhinged. Get help.

He who has the gold makes the rules. If you want the benefits of corporate write offs then you need to have a corporation. You want the benefits of marriage then you need to be married.
The next thing will be single people, confirmed batchelors and spinsters, getting married to any and all in order to reap benefits. Why should they be discriminated against just because they dont want to get married? At that point "marriage" is a farce. Which is what the gay agenda is all about anyway, the breakdown of societal norms.

 

[paperview]

Larry Craig proved gays can marry. Amirite?

 

[ima]

It is the state's interest in according marital status to certain unions and not other unions.

Gay marriage will cost more because gay couples will demand (are demanding) all the benefits that actually married couples get. Or did you think those things come from the tooth fairy?

Ya'll just can't keep your shit together can you? I could marry a man and get those cash and prizes...isn't that what ya'll keep telling us, that we have the same rights if we just marry the way YOU think we should? Wouldn't that give us those bennies anyway? So what's the difference? You're okay paying out the cash and prizes as long I'm fucking who YOU want me to fuck? How Authoritarian of you.

You appear to be becoming unhinged. Get help.

He who has the gold makes the rules. If you want the benefits of corporate write offs then you need to have a corporation. You want the benefits of marriage then you need to be married.
The next thing will be single people, confirmed batchelors and spinsters, getting married to any and all in order to reap benefits. Why should they be discriminated against just because they dont want to get married? At that point "marriage" is a farce. Which is what the gay agenda is all about anyway, the breakdown of societal norms.

So if marriage to you is all about money, what do you care how many people enjoy the tax advantages that you do? Please get a grip. You make no sense. Or else you're just greedy. Is that it?

 

[Seawytch]

It is the state's interest in according marital status to certain unions and not other unions.

Gay marriage will cost more because gay couples will demand (are demanding) all the benefits that actually married couples get. Or did you think those things come from the tooth fairy?

Ya'll just can't keep your shit together can you? I could marry a man and get those cash and prizes...isn't that what ya'll keep telling us, that we have the same rights if we just marry the way YOU think we should? Wouldn't that give us those bennies anyway? So what's the difference? You're okay paying out the cash and prizes as long I'm fucking who YOU want me to fuck? How Authoritarian of you.

You appear to be becoming unhinged. Get help.

He who has the gold makes the rules. If you want the benefits of corporate write offs then you need to have a corporation. You want the benefits of marriage then you need to be married.
The next thing will be single people, confirmed batchelors and spinsters, getting married to any and all in order to reap benefits. Why should they be discriminated against just because they dont want to get married? At that point "marriage" is a farce. Which is what the gay agenda is all about anyway, the breakdown of societal norms.

Confirmed bachelors and spinsters can marry each other NOW. Allowing us to marry isn't going to change that. Honestly, your arguments are all just silly...which is why your position keeps losing in court.

 

[KnobbyWalsh]

Why are people so hung up on busting a nut? Jesus! Get married, have a kid or two, go to work, get a life! Doesn't have to be this complicated.