Marriage Matters: Consequences of Redefining Marriage

[OohPooPahDoo]

I don't know how to make this any more clear - our church was not permitted to marry us unless we produced a marriage license from the state. Period.

Your church was not permitted to represent the state in officiating your entry into a public contract without said license. Your religious institution could perform any religious ceremony it wants; your marriage would just not have been recognized by the state as legal and binding.

YOu and seawatch should look up the relevant law before you make such presumptions.

Of course it would help if Rot told us what state he lived in and how many centuries ago he was married.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Ah, no thanks sweetie. I have no desire to be the next James Moore because libtards have lost on the battlefield of policy and ideas.

The fact is, our church and pastor are not permitted to perform a marriage ceremony without the couple having first obtained a marriage license. It is a requirement (and just another example of government intruding on the church).

I would tell you to do your own homework, be we all know that is not the liberal way. The liberal way is to live off of the work of others.

You wanted to get married to your wife without a marriage license? Seriously? What for?

1.) It was just another way for government to take money from me (because libtards feel that already taking more than 50% of what I earn is not enough to quench their greed). Ask yourself why there needs to be an absorbent fee associated with the license? If I remember correctly, I think we paid about $60 (it's been a while, so forgive me if I'm not 100% accurate). I know damn well they aren't paying the clerk $60 per 5 minutes (or $720 per hour) to process the paperwork - so how exactly do they justify this? It's just another way to fuck the American people for their socialism.

2.) What business is it of the government who I marry? My marriage is between myself, my wife, my church, and God. I see no room for government in there (nor should there be).

LOL! OMG marriage licenses aren't that expensive. You just didn't want to have a legally binding obligation to your wife! Come on man, who are you kidding? Instead of buying the cow with cash you wanted a mortgage you could walk away from any time.

 

[Redfish]

Is this intentional obtuseness or a reading comprehension problem?

Again, I don't care what you call it, it simply must be the same for all non familial consenting adult couples. Lose the word marriage, I don't care. I only care that it is equal. You don't. You want for straights to have civil marriage and gays to have some thing else. I want everyone to have the same thing, whether you call it civil marriage, civil unions or cabbage fucking soup.

gay marriage = cabbage fucking soup. OK, if you say so

No, all civil marriages since you're the one hung up on a word.

first you said it was about equal rights, I support equal rights. Now you say its about using the same words for hetero and gay unions.

Not to be repetitious, but your real issue is that you want the govt via SCOTUS to force the rest of us to consider your gay union as equally acceptable socially, its not about legality or rights, its about trying to change our culture to believe that homosexuality is as normal as heterosexuality. But its not.

The vast majority of the people of the world do not want their kids to be taught that "when you become sexually mature you can choose to like either the same sex or the opposite sex"

You liberals want to treat muslims equally, so how about taking your gay marriage issue to a muslim country-------you will lose your head----literally.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

gay marriage = cabbage fucking soup. OK, if you say so

No, all civil marriages since you're the one hung up on a word.

first you said it was about equal rights, I support equal rights. Now you say its about using the same words for hetero and gay unions.

Not to be repetitious, but your real issue is that you want the govt via SCOTUS to force the rest of us to consider your gay union as equally acceptable socially, its not about legality or rights, its about trying to change our culture to believe that homosexuality is as normal as heterosexuality.

It is about legal rights you fucking moron. I'm sorry the real world doesn't fit into your fantastical narrative where you are the martyr of fairy queens stealing away your straight children in the night to force their perverted view upon them. To be honest no one gives a shit what bigots like you think.

The vast majority of the people of the world do not want their kids to be taught that "when you become sexually mature you can choose to like either the same sex or the opposite sex"

It must have been interesting to interview 6 billion people. Tell us about the experience.

 

[Unkotare]

It is possible in ANY state if you do not care if your marriage is legally binding. That is the key in EVERY state. If you didn't want your marriage to be legally binding, you could get a religious ceremony performed, just like "the gheys" do.

I don't know how to make this any more clear - our church was not permitted to marry us unless we produced a marriage license from the state. Period.

On a side note - why do you assume that because I believe in traditional marriage, I "hate" gay people? Is it because you need that to demonize your opponent so as to construct an argument?

I don't assume you hate straight people. I mean, you very well might. You're being insane if you don't think there are gay people who HATE straight people. But I don't just assume that about you.

But you don't believe in traditional marriage. Traditional marriages are arranged. Was your marriage arranged by your parents? Then its not traditional.

Wow, that was a pretty ridiculous argument.

 

[Redfish]

No, all civil marriages since you're the one hung up on a word.

first you said it was about equal rights, I support equal rights. Now you say its about using the same words for hetero and gay unions.

Not to be repetitious, but your real issue is that you want the govt via SCOTUS to force the rest of us to consider your gay union as equally acceptable socially, its not about legality or rights, its about trying to change our culture to believe that homosexuality is as normal as heterosexuality.

It is about legal rights you fucking moron. I'm sorry the real world doesn't fit into your fantastical narrative where you are the martyr of fairy queens stealing away your straight children in the night to force their perverted view upon them. To be honest no one gives a shit what bigots like you think.

The vast majority of the people of the world do not want their kids to be taught that "when you become sexually mature you can choose to like either the same sex or the opposite sex"

It must have been interesting to interview 6 billion people. Tell us about the experience.

Not with wytchey, its about forcing the majority to accept a minority lifestyle as "normal".

They have equal rights, its not about that. Its about thought control and big brother.

No, I did not interview anyone, but there are plenty of polls if you would like to do some research.

 

[Redfish]

I don't know how to make this any more clear - our church was not permitted to marry us unless we produced a marriage license from the state. Period.

On a side note - why do you assume that because I believe in traditional marriage, I "hate" gay people? Is it because you need that to demonize your opponent so as to construct an argument?

I don't assume you hate straight people. I mean, you very well might. You're being insane if you don't think there are gay people who HATE straight people. But I don't just assume that about you.

But you don't believe in traditional marriage. Traditional marriages are arranged. Was your marriage arranged by your parents? Then its not traditional.

Wow, that was a pretty ridiculous argument.

it was ooopy trying to be funny.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

They have equal rights, its not about that.

No they don't.

No, I did not interview anyone, but there are plenty of polls if you would like to do some research.

Public opinion of same-sex marriage in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

I don't know how to make this any more clear - our church was not permitted to marry us unless we produced a marriage license from the state. Period.

On a side note - why do you assume that because I believe in traditional marriage, I "hate" gay people? Is it because you need that to demonize your opponent so as to construct an argument?

I don't assume you hate straight people. I mean, you very well might. You're being insane if you don't think there are gay people who HATE straight people. But I don't just assume that about you.

But you don't believe in traditional marriage. Traditional marriages are arranged. Was your marriage arranged by your parents? Then its not traditional.

Wow, that was a pretty ridiculous argument.

Its not ridiculous considering that traditional marriages are arranged.

 

[Unkotare]

I don't know how to make this any more clear - our church was not permitted to marry us unless we produced a marriage license from the state. Period.

Your church was not permitted to represent the state in officiating your entry into a public contract without said license. Your religious institution could perform any religious ceremony it wants; your marriage would just not have been recognized by the state as legal and binding.

YOu and seawatch should look up the relevant law before you make such presumptions.

I've read the relevant law a million times. It's called the First Amendment.

 

[Redfish]

They have equal rights, its not about that.

No they don't.

No, I did not interview anyone, but there are plenty of polls if you would like to do some research.

Public opinion of same-sex marriage in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

what was the wording of the question asked in those polls? Without knowing that, they are meaningless to the discussion.

Now, there are a billion muslims in the world. I would venture a guess that 99.9% of the are opposed to gay marriage.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Your church was not permitted to represent the state in officiating your entry into a public contract without said license. Your religious institution could perform any religious ceremony it wants; your marriage would just not have been recognized by the state as legal and binding.

YOu and seawatch should look up the relevant law before you make such presumptions.

I've read the relevant law a million times. It's called the First Amendment.

The First amendment doesn't specify how states should handle marriage licenses you ignorant fuck.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

They have equal rights, its not about that.

No they don't.

No, I did not interview anyone, but there are plenty of polls if you would like to do some research.

Public opinion of same-sex marriage in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

what was the wording of the question asked in those polls?

Do you want me to do your homework for you?

Without knowing that, they are meaningless to the discussion.

Far more meaningful just to assert that people believe what you believe and leave it at that, right?

Now, there are a billion muslims in the world. I would venture a guess that 99.9% of the are opposed to gay marriage.

Foreigners don't have a vested stake in our government you ignorant retard.

 

[Unkotare]

But you don't believe in traditional marriage. Traditional marriages are arranged. Was your marriage arranged by your parents? Then its not traditional.

Wow, that was a pretty ridiculous argument.

Its not ridiculous considering that traditional marriages are arranged.

It is ridiculous, knucklehead. You could make the same stupid argument if you said that if you don't believe in capturing a woman in war for your wife you don't believe in "traditional marriage," or if you don't believe in raping a woman, taking her away from her tribe and threatening to kill her if she leaves, or if you don't believe in buying a woman to serve as your wife, or, or, or....

Stupid, pointless argument.

 

[Unkotare]

YOu and seawatch should look up the relevant law before you make such presumptions.

I've read the relevant law a million times. It's called the First Amendment.

The First amendment doesn't specify how states should handle marriage licenses you ignorant fuck.

If you bothered to quote my initial post on the subject then you should have bothered to read it, moron.

 

[Murhy]

The reason why I dont support gay marriage, is that every time two homosexuals get married, it makes me love my wife less, because to me, our marriage means less.

Marriage is for straights only, and when marriage is redefined, it is really going to have a negative impact on my marriage. Thats why I care. The gays are going to take away the love that I have for my wife.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Wow, that was a pretty ridiculous argument.

Its not ridiculous considering that traditional marriages are arranged.

It is ridiculous, knucklehead. You could make the same stupid argument if you said that if you don't believe in capturing a woman in war for your wife you don't believe in "traditional marriage," or if you don't believe in raping a woman, taking her away from her tribe and threatening to kill her if she leaves, or if you don't believe in buying a woman to serve as your wife, or, or, or....

Stupid, pointless argument.

Its not a stupid argument. Its true. That's what traditional marriage is. Modern marriage - where people get to choose for themselves who they marry - is a new concept.

Traditional marriage also involves a right to beat and rape your wife, as well, thanks for bringing that up.

What bigots like you and Rot mean when they say "traditional marriage" is "traditional marriage as it was defined when I was married". t

 

[Redfish]

No they don't.



Public opinion of same-sex marriage in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

what was the wording of the question asked in those polls?

Do you want me to do your homework for you?

Without knowing that, they are meaningless to the discussion.

Far more meaningful just to assert that people believe what you believe and leave it at that, right?

Now, there are a billion muslims in the world. I would venture a guess that 99.9% of the are opposed to gay marriage.

Foreigners don't have a vested stake in our government you ignorant retard.

I originally said that a majority of the people of the world are opposed to gay marriage. I just accounted for a billion of them. you ignorant arrogant retarded fuckhead

 

[Murhy]

Its not ridiculous considering that traditional marriages are arranged.

It is ridiculous, knucklehead. You could make the same stupid argument if you said that if you don't believe in capturing a woman in war for your wife you don't believe in "traditional marriage," or if you don't believe in raping a woman, taking her away from her tribe and threatening to kill her if she leaves, or if you don't believe in buying a woman to serve as your wife, or, or, or....

Stupid, pointless argument.

Its not a stupid argument. Its true. That's what traditional marriage is. Modern marriage - where people get to choose for themselves who they marry - is a new concept.

Traditional marriage also involves a right to beat and rape your wife, as well, thanks for bringing that up.

HAH! it was literally called "the rule of thumb"

 

[Redfish]

Its not ridiculous considering that traditional marriages are arranged.

It is ridiculous, knucklehead. You could make the same stupid argument if you said that if you don't believe in capturing a woman in war for your wife you don't believe in "traditional marriage," or if you don't believe in raping a woman, taking her away from her tribe and threatening to kill her if she leaves, or if you don't believe in buying a woman to serve as your wife, or, or, or....

Stupid, pointless argument.

Its not a stupid argument. Its true. That's what traditional marriage is. Modern marriage - where people get to choose for themselves who they marry - is a new concept.

Traditional marriage also involves a right to beat and rape your wife, as well, thanks for bringing that up.

What bigots like you and Rot mean when they say "traditional marriage" is "traditional marriage as it was defined when I was married". t

I know you think you are being cute. But in current parlance "tradional" does not mean "arranged". Traditional means one man one woman.