Mass Shooting in Tulsa.

[airplanemechanic]

Please provide some evidence this medical building in Tulsa was a gun free zone

Show me a hospital that they allow you to bring a gun into.

 

[KissMy]

Yeah.....he fired from a concealed, elevated position, into a tightly packed crowd of over 22,000 people.....and only hit 65 people..........

A muslim terrorist without a gun, using a rental truck murdered 86 people and injured 450..........

More people killed with a truck than each year of mass public shootings except two..........

At the range of all other mass public shootings, the magazine capacity had no bearing on the outcome..the distances were less than 30 yards at the longest range.....

Even the guy in Vegas could have simply used 10 round magazines, you doofus....and killed just as many in that tightly packed stadium...the police didn't stop him, he stopped himself.

BS. Unlike a stadium, those people were in a parking lot so they thinned out quickly lowering his kill rate. Paddock fired about 1,100 bullets, hitting 471 people, injuring 867 as they escaped, wounding 411, killing 60. His 100 round mags allowed him to fire 100 bullets in 11 seconds, then long pauses as he changed mags or guns.

 

[2aguy]

BS. Unlike a stadium, those people were in a parking lot so they thinned out quickly lowering his kill rate. Paddock fired about 1,100 bullets, hitting 471 people, injuring 867 as they escaped, wounding 411, killing 60. His 100 round mags allowed him to fire 100 bullets in 11 seconds, then long pauses as he changed mags or guns.

He fired into the concert area…..which is the only reason he had the hit rate that he did….had he had 10 round magazines it wouldn’t have mattered……what part of that is so hard for you to understand gun grabber?

None of the mass public shootings would have been changed by 10 round magazines….the parkland shooter had 10 round magazines…..

You bought the lies of the gun grabbing democrats….you are a fool.

 

[Donald H]

If we took away everyone's cars they couldn't go anywhere to use those guns. Cars kill more more people than guns ever did. Cars are dangerous and like guns they don't kill anyone unless someone misuses them. They also contribute to climate change so cars are more dangerous than guns. For God's sake as Biden would say, let's do something about all those dangerous cars. Only professional politicians should have cars just like only politicians would have guns!

Have there been very many shootings today? I think the rate of mass shootings are actually running at two a day now in America.

 

[Donald H]

Yes...and you will see the increase in crime too.....good for you...

Not when the immigrants are treated as new citizens with full rights. America's crime problem is exactly that which you allude to. Blacks were never treated in an acceptable manner after Americans lost their slaves, and now you're paying a heavy price.

And there's no acceptance of the solution of reversing that. There's only more police brutality and other bad treatment of blacks to make it worse.

Did you know that mass shooting are up to about two a day now?

 

[Rye Catcher]

Mental illness, depression, drugs and isolation are a deadly mix.

Wow, I sure hope you don't own a gun.

 

[Sunsettommy]

So give them a gun, nincompoop.

How are such people like Ramos despite the abundant evidence was mentally ill and numerous threats of shooting up a school still passing the Background check?

 

[surada]

How are such people Ramos despite the abundant evidence was mentally ill and numerous threats of shooting up a school still passing the Background check?

Damn good question.

 

[2aguy]

Have there been very many shootings today? I think the rate of mass shootings are actually running at two a day now in America.

No...they aren't....we had a total of 6 mass public shootings in 2021....2 in 2022...

We have gang shootings in the leftist, democrat party controlled cities...just like Toronto...

 

[2aguy]

Damn good question.

That's easy....the police never arrested him when they had the chance...and his friends and family never turned him in for the actual crimes.....cat killing and shooting at people with a BB gun....had he been arrested for any of those and convicted, it would have popped on a background check...

 

[2aguy]

Not when the immigrants are treated as new citizens with full rights. America's crime problem is exactly that which you allude to. Blacks were never treated in an acceptable manner after Americans lost their slaves, and now you're paying a heavy price.

And there's no acceptance of the solution of reversing that. There's only more police brutality and other bad treatment of blacks to make it worse.

Did you know that mass shooting are up to about two a day now?

Let me fix that for you...

after Americans lost their slaves,

After the Republican party used guns to defeat the democrat party and made the democrat party members free their black slaves.......the democrat party then created the unfair jim crow laws, they lynched blacks, bombed churches and created the kkk to murder and intimidate the blacks the Republicans freed...

 

[Donald H]

No...they aren't....we had a total of 6 mass public shootings in 2021....2 in 2022...

We have gang shootings in the leftist, democrat party controlled cities...just like Toronto...

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Incident ID	Incident Date	State	City Or County	Address	# Killed	# Injured	Operations
2318310	June 1, 2022	Oklahoma	Tulsa	6161 S Yale Ave	5	0	View Incident View Source
2318046	May 31, 2022	Texas	Waco	1900 block of Preston St	0	4	View Incident View Source
2317016	May 30, 2022	South Carolina	Charleston	America St and South St	0	10	View Incident View Source
2316616	May 30, 2022	Michigan	Benton Harbor	999 Pipestone St	1	6	View Incident View Source
2315903	May 30, 2022	Pennsylvania	Philadelphia	N Delaware Ave and E Tioga St	2	2	View Incident View Source
2315150	May 29, 2022	Oklahoma	Taft	104 Elm St	1	7	View Incident View Source
2315333	May 29, 2022	California	Merced	Cowden Ave	1	3	View Incident View Source
2316364	May 29, 2022	Texas	Houston	11654 Walnut Dale Ct	0	4	View Incident View Source
2315892	May 29, 2022	Illinois	Chicago	4400 block of W Walton St	1	4	View Incident View Source
2315605	May 29, 2022	Arizona	Phoenix	N 58th St and W Windsor Ave	1	5	View Incident View Source
2315361	May 29, 2022	Nevada	Henderson	I-11 and Horizon Dr	0	7	View Incident View Source
2315074	May 29, 2022	Illinois	Chicago	800 block of S Karlov Ave	0	5	View Incident View Source
2314991	May 28, 2022	Tennessee	Chattanooga	100 block of Cherry St	0	6	View Incident View Source
2315338	May 28, 2022	California	Fresno	2233 N 1st St	1	3	View Incident View Source
2315417	May 28, 2022	Florida	Malabar	2500 block of Billie Ln	0	4	View Incident View Source
2315190	May 28, 2022	Colorado	Colorado Springs	3800 block of E Pikes Pike Ave	1	3	View Incident View Source
2314951	May 28, 2022	Tennessee	Memphis	Chelsea Ave and Peres Ave	0	4	View Incident View Source
2313988	May 27, 2022	Alabama	Anniston	1204 Front St	0	6	View Incident View Source
2313970	May 27, 2022	Michigan	Stanwood	10711 185th Ave	4	1	View Incident View Source
2312678	May 25, 2022	Pennsylvania	Philadelphia	3500 block of Fairmount Ave	0	4	View Incident View Source
2310278	May 24, 2022	Texas	Uvalde	715 Old Carrizo Rd	22	17	View Incident View Source
2309711	May 23, 2022	South Carolina	North Charleston	7550 Dorchester Rd	0	5	View Incident View Source
2311123	May 23, 2022	Ohio	Cleveland	1032 Hartley Rd	0	5	View Incident View Source
2308096	May 21, 2022	Indiana	Goshen	1204 Rosemare Ct	2	3	View Incident View Source
2308395	May 21, 2022	Washington	Tacoma	S Yakima Ave and S 56th St	0	4	View Incident View Source

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And 8 more pages. Six on May 29 alone!​

 

[surada]

That's easy....the police never arrested him when they had the chance...and his friends and family never turned him in for the actual crimes.....cat killing and shooting at people with a BB gun....had he been arrested for any of those and convicted, it would have popped on a background check...

I don't know how that works. My kids didn't do that kind of crap. But, I'm told juvenile records are usually sealed.

 

[2aguy]

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Incident ID	Incident Date	State	City Or County	Address	# Killed	# Injured	Operations
2318310	June 1, 2022	Oklahoma	Tulsa	6161 S Yale Ave	5	0	View Incident View Source
2318046	May 31, 2022	Texas	Waco	1900 block of Preston St	0	4	View Incident View Source
2317016	May 30, 2022	South Carolina	Charleston	America St and South St	0	10	View Incident View Source
2316616	May 30, 2022	Michigan	Benton Harbor	999 Pipestone St	1	6	View Incident View Source
2315903	May 30, 2022	Pennsylvania	Philadelphia	N Delaware Ave and E Tioga St	2	2	View Incident View Source
2315150	May 29, 2022	Oklahoma	Taft	104 Elm St	1	7	View Incident View Source
2315333	May 29, 2022	California	Merced	Cowden Ave	1	3	View Incident View Source
2316364	May 29, 2022	Texas	Houston	11654 Walnut Dale Ct	0	4	View Incident View Source
2315892	May 29, 2022	Illinois	Chicago	4400 block of W Walton St	1	4	View Incident View Source
2315605	May 29, 2022	Arizona	Phoenix	N 58th St and W Windsor Ave	1	5	View Incident View Source
2315361	May 29, 2022	Nevada	Henderson	I-11 and Horizon Dr	0	7	View Incident View Source
2315074	May 29, 2022	Illinois	Chicago	800 block of S Karlov Ave	0	5	View Incident View Source
2314991	May 28, 2022	Tennessee	Chattanooga	100 block of Cherry St	0	6	View Incident View Source
2315338	May 28, 2022	California	Fresno	2233 N 1st St	1	3	View Incident View Source
2315417	May 28, 2022	Florida	Malabar	2500 block of Billie Ln	0	4	View Incident View Source
2315190	May 28, 2022	Colorado	Colorado Springs	3800 block of E Pikes Pike Ave	1	3	View Incident View Source
2314951	May 28, 2022	Tennessee	Memphis	Chelsea Ave and Peres Ave	0	4	View Incident View Source
2313988	May 27, 2022	Alabama	Anniston	1204 Front St	0	6	View Incident View Source
2313970	May 27, 2022	Michigan	Stanwood	10711 185th Ave	4	1	View Incident View Source
2312678	May 25, 2022	Pennsylvania	Philadelphia	3500 block of Fairmount Ave	0	4	View Incident View Source
2310278	May 24, 2022	Texas	Uvalde	715 Old Carrizo Rd	22	17	View Incident View Source
2309711	May 23, 2022	South Carolina	North Charleston	7550 Dorchester Rd	0	5	View Incident View Source
2311123	May 23, 2022	Ohio	Cleveland	1032 Hartley Rd	0	5	View Incident View Source
2308096	May 21, 2022	Indiana	Goshen	1204 Rosemare Ct	2	3	View Incident View Source
2308395	May 21, 2022	Washington	Tacoma	S Yakima Ave and S 56th St	0	4	View Incident View Source

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And 8 more pages. Six on May 29 alone!​

Yep...the second incident is a gang shooting, you moron....

To the moderators....I am posting this in response to his post.....

The actual count of mass public shootings in the U.S......using the FBI definition....

US mass shootings, 1982–2022: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.
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• Here is a description of the criteria we use:
  
  
  • The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
  • The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
  • The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.)
  • Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
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  • Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
  • We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.
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Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker.


We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence.


(Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.) Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed.

While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.



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The actual number of mass shootings from Mother Jones......

Here you go...the number of mass public shootings according to Mother Jones...rabid, anti gun, left wing news source.....not the NRA...

The list below comes from the old definition of 4 killed to make a shooting a mass shooting...if you now go to the link there are more than listed below...but that is because Mother Jones changed the list from the time I first posted it...and changed to obama's new standard of only 3 dead to make a mass shooting...



US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

2021...6
2020....2

2019....10

2018... 12

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1

 

[Donald H]

1982...1

You decide what qualifies as a mass shooting.

I'm going to include gang shootings because:

Well, they're shootings and they're mass, and guns are common to all of them and they're all in America!

The list applies and regardless of what you try to disqualify, it still appears to be much more than only two a day.

It was 11 on May 28 and May 29!

I do so miss M14Shooter!
He would have shit himself over your gun control recommendations.

 

[2aguy]

You decide what qualifies as a mass shooting.

I'm going to include gang shootings because:

Well, they're shootings and they're mass, and guns are common to all of them and they're all in America!

The list applies and regardless of what you try to disqualify, it still appears to be much more than only two a day.

It was 11 on May 28 and May 29!

I do so miss M14Shooter!
He would have shit himself over your gun control recommendations.

No...the FBI did.........

You are going to include gang shootings because you are a liar.......

Gang shootings are a different crime from mass public shootings....

The problem for you is that if you don't live in a democrat party controlled city, in the tiny areas where the democrats release violent gang members....you have little to fear from shootings...

Mass public shootings get 24/7 media coverage so more uninformed Americans are afraid of them.....

You mix gang shootings into the number to lie to the uninformed, making it seem like mass public shootings happen every day....

I showed you the data base....we had a total of 6 in 2021........

You can't stampede uninformed Americans into giving up a Right based on 6 criminals.....so you lie.

 

[rightnow909]

If he’s white, racism is the problem.
If he’s not white, gun is the problem.

sounds about right

but even if not white, gun is problem and racism also

 

[rightnow909]

once again, why are all the recent shootings in red states?

I think the far left are behind this...

(admittedly, I do not have many facts on any of them... People where I live don't like real news and... well, for those of us who do... long story)

 

[beagle9]

But the car deaths are accidents whereas the gun incidents are usually planned. No other first world has the has the gun deaths USA has.

Ok, then go after criminal's with extreme vigilance, and treat the mentally ill as they were in the old day's... Uhhhh ohhhh Houston we have a problem don't we ???

It can all be stopped within a year or less, but politics has got to get the hell out of the way. I want everyone to know now, that it's not the gun's and never was, but it is the political climate created by one party in particular in which has caused every bit of this death and destruction to go out of control in this nation (fact)... It's either a reaction to policies that cause serious mental issue's to form within society or the loosing of mentally ill and/or the criminal's on society... This occurs after they've been created by policies or created by the political climate that gave the perfect environment for such illnesses to form or be promoted or created.

Then we have evil politician's attempting to hide their hands in it all, and actually doubling down with baiting and pumping to cause even more division, destruction, and mayhem.

Ohhh what a tangled web they weave, and then we the American people get caught up in it.

 

[beagle9]

Not when the immigrants are treated as new citizens with full rights. America's crime problem is exactly that which you allude to. Blacks were never treated in an acceptable manner after Americans lost their slaves, and now you're paying a heavy price.

And there's no acceptance of the solution of reversing that. There's only more police brutality and other bad treatment of blacks to make it worse.

Did you know that mass shooting are up to about two a day now?

Oh so you are basically saying that this is a pay back thing caused by the blacks eh ? Bull crap...

Black's are as capable as anyone to make good with their lives or not. The white's have payed their dues and sacrificed over many years in order to see to it that black's got a fair shake in life. They've taken that and done damned well with it over the year's now. Black's in a majority don't want white sympathy or hand outs or coddling from white's anymore. They want the same respect any American citizen gets when they apply themselves, and they don't want to be held responsible for the bad amongst them the same as anyone else.

Stop race baiting.