Matthew 6, What a nightmare on national TV yesterday!!

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Showmanship?

you claiming it was scripted?

Yes, Will, I am sure of it.
Were the pics of Obama praying scripted?
Obama was praying to God.
Brunson was praying to Trump.

See the difference?
Brunson was laying his hand on Trump and praying to God, that's scriptural. You obviously haven't spent any time in a Christian Church. When Christians pray for others they put their hand on them some times. What an idiotic ignorant post.
No, I'm a Yankee. We do not touch each other or jump up and holler "Amen Jesus!" during the sermon, either. But it is still a "Christian" church. You should get another name for yours.

You're no Christian. I'm entirely comfortable saying that

Then neither are you.
 
What is it about free expression that you people don't understand?

Pray in private, we do not want to turn on tv and a ? pastor is on his knees gushing up the Potus with a scripted pray. Also keep it out of public schools.

Really don't understand the First Amendment, do you?

I understand freedom of religion and that includes Muslims, Jews, Hindus and all the atheists and agnostics in the US. The Potus of the US is suppose to honor the freedom of religion. He instead dwells on Christianity, his new founded religion and voters. Also the Evangelicals, and how they love to control and interfere in politics. See my sig, oh how they all swarm around him.


The President is fair to people of all religions. He is the first President with a Jewish daughter and grandchildren, and has engendered Tremendous relations with the Children of Israel.
I guess you pray in UAE.
Mohammed bin Zayed Al Nayhan | The Back Channel

and
A Moment of Silence to Mark the One-Year Anniversary of the Boston Marathon Bombing

Really now it does not even compare to the nightmare on TV yesterday.

Do you see anyone blathering, NO.

And another in a mosque, you are getting hard up hey?

also please link where you get your pictures from.
Sorry but the FREE EXERCISE of RELIGION is in the CONSTITUTION. the President is allowed to and should pray. What is your fucking issue? Not everyone is a depressed atheist that thinks life is meaningless and we just become dirt again.......

He can pray anywhere, quietly. By the way it was the pastor who prayed. I have never heard Trump pray.
Why do they have to pray quietly??

AND are you wanting Trump to pray publicly? Which one is it? You make no sense.

Trump has a right to pray, I've heard him pray, but if you have a pastor, let him do it, especially a guy that you just got out of a Turkish prison who WANTS to pray for you.
 
Really don't understand the First Amendment, do you?

I understand freedom of religion and that includes Muslims, Jews, Hindus and all the atheists and agnostics in the US. The Potus of the US is suppose to honor the freedom of religion. He instead dwells on Christianity, his new founded religion and voters. Also the Evangelicals, and how they love to control and interfere in politics. See my sig, oh how they all swarm around him.


The President is fair to people of all religions. He is the first President with a Jewish daughter and grandchildren, and has engendered Tremendous relations with the Children of Israel.
I guess you pray in UAE.
Mohammed bin Zayed Al Nayhan | The Back Channel

and
A Moment of Silence to Mark the One-Year Anniversary of the Boston Marathon Bombing

Really now it does not even compare to the nightmare on TV yesterday.

Do you see anyone blathering, NO.

And another in a mosque, you are getting hard up hey?

also please link where you get your pictures from.
Sorry but the FREE EXERCISE of RELIGION is in the CONSTITUTION. the President is allowed to and should pray. What is your fucking issue? Not everyone is a depressed atheist that thinks life is meaningless and we just become dirt again.......

He can pray anywhere, quietly.

He can pray anywhere, period.

I doubt he knows a prayer. LOL.
ok, I'm pretty sure he does, are you an expert?
 
He was doing both, praying for him and to him. On TV for all to see, disgraceful. Reading from a script he wrote down, what a hoot. Poor little Turkey man, after 22 years in Turkey, his church only had what 25 members. He is likely connected with the Gulen movement, they have a lot of charter schools here in the US, in TX and Ohio, they have to bring in teachers from Turkey, even though they have less credentials.


So what?

Libs complain about Joel Osteen because the Texan has thousands of members in his megachurch. Brunson's church is a micro church and the libs don't like that either.

I think libs don't like CHRISTIAN churches that well
Bingo! They’d be happy to see mosques all over the place, but their attitude to Christianity is somewhat rabid!
Christianity has become sort of 2 faced, hypocritical Bowing at the alter of greed perversion and lies Followers of the worst pos to ever enter our WH NOW do you understand Tilly
Wish we could be like you God haters and ignore the poor and sick.
 
You can understand his religion of faith from the way he has lived his life, see actions speak louder that words.
Wow, when did you turn into a snobby Christian? Are you a Pharisee?
I never heard you guys denounce Obama or Clinton's Christianity? Or Kennedy's Catholicism. God uses imperfect people, guess what, we all are. Learn that first. Trump has done great things for Christians, and I think he will continue to do so.
 
Prayer
5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the
street corners to be seen by others.
Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

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It was a unacceptable spectacle and a disgrace to show a man praying for the Potus on national TV.

Then again I believe in the Separation of Church and State, I do not want a theocratic government where only the leaders can screw whoever they want and lead a life of crime, like Saudi Arabia.
The fake preachers prayer over the devil.....lets just hope should they all make it to heaven, the gates are locked.
 
I have no issue with it and didn't have a problem when Obama, Bush Jr., Clinton, etc. did it either. And this has nothing to do with separation of church and state.

A nothingburger as usual.

A nothing burger.....prominent pastors of the cloth, praying over a pussy grabbing, lying sac of shit, race bating bitch?????? Nothing burger my ass, its classic conservative bible belt bull.
 
Prayer
5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the
street corners to be seen by others.
Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

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It was a unacceptable spectacle and a disgrace to show a man praying for the Potus on national TV.

Then again I believe in the Separation of Church and State, I do not want a theocratic government where only the leaders can screw whoever they want and lead a life of crime, like Saudi Arabia.



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"Obama Quickly Takes Credit For Pastor Andrew Brunson's Release From Turkey

WASHINGTON, D.C.—Hastily throwing together a press conference shortly after the news broke, former President Barack Obama quickly took credit Friday for Turkey’s release of U.S. Pastor Andrew Brunson, who had been imprisoned for two years after being falsely accused of a slew of charges.


“Look, people are saying Trump’s strong-arm tactics like economic sanctions are responsible for Brunson’s release, but hey—don’t forget who should really get credit for this: me, Obama,” Obama said to adoring applause from gathered members of the media.

“Look, when was Brunson first arrested? October 2016, that’s right. The man gets arrested during my administration and now Republicans want to give Trump credit for his release, just because he applied crippling pressure to Erdogan until the deed was done? Please!” he added.

The former president went on to explain how nobody has a better track record of caring for Christians than he does, and no other president before or since him has commanded such fear and respect on the world stage.

“President Trump, you didn’t do that. Obama did that,” he said. “You’re welcome.”

Obama Quickly Takes Credit For Pastor Andrew Brunson's Release From Turkey




 
Raging TDS alert! :cuckoo:
Someone call the waaaaaambulance!

Trump can go to a church or in a closet and have someone pray over him. Not TDS, Separation of Church and State. The last thing I want if to be controlled by Evangelicals but it sure looks like they are everywhere and far deep into politics, like usual. Jeffress is so sickening, they all are. See my sig. That tells you everything you need to know. Disgusting demons.

What is it about free expression that you people don't understand?

Pray in private, we do not want to turn on tv and a ? pastor is on his knees gushing up the Potus with a scripted pray. Also keep it out of public schools.

Really don't understand the First Amendment, do you?

I understand freedom of religion and that includes Muslims, Jews, Hindus and all the atheists and agnostics in the US. The Potus of the US is suppose to honor the freedom of religion. He instead dwells on Christianity, his new founded religion and voters. Also the Evangelicals, and how they love to control and interfere in politics. See my sig, oh how they all swarm around him.

Kennedy favored Catholicism, Carter favored Baptist. It doesn’t mean they are limiting or requiring one religion over another religion.
 
Brunson was laying his hand on Trump and praying to God, that's scriptural. You obviously haven't spent any time in a Christian Church. When Christians pray for others they put their hand on them some times. What an idiotic ignorant post.

You mean Evangelicals, and there Is a time and place for everything, and that was not it. On national TV. And he said, in Jesus's name. I am so upset over this.
Raging TDS alert! :cuckoo:
Someone call the waaaaaambulance!

Trump can go to a church or in a closet and have someone pray over him. Not TDS, Separation of Church and State. The last thing I want if to be controlled by Evangelicals but it sure looks like they are everywhere and far deep into politics, like usual. Jeffress is so sickening, they all are. See my sig. That tells you everything you need to know. Disgusting demons.

What is it about free expression that you people don't understand?

Pray in private, we do not want to turn on tv and a ? pastor is on his knees gushing up the Potus with a scripted pray. Also keep it out of public schools.

You mentioned turning on the TV, so you can also turn it off. And yes, we DO want to see the president praying and being prayed for on TV.
 
Trump can go to a church or in a closet and have someone pray over him. Not TDS, Separation of Church and State. The last thing I want if to be controlled by Evangelicals but it sure looks like they are everywhere and far deep into politics, like usual. Jeffress is so sickening, they all are. See my sig. That tells you everything you need to know. Disgusting demons.


President Trump still has Freedom of Religion, just like anyone else. This is still America for now.

If Trump wants to pray with Brunson, pose with the Pope, meet with this minister or that, that's his right as an American.

Yes he does and he can blacken the doors at a church or pray in his home.

Or in front of a TV camera.
 
Yes he does and he can blacken the doors at a church or pray in his home.


Or he can pray publicly on TV if he so desires.

That's the great thing about the 1st Amendment, we have the freedom to practice our religion, and that includes our President.

Nope he is the Potus of the US, and freedom of religion does not mean only Christianity.

Doesn't exclude it. There is no requirement that a president not be a Christian, or that he keep his faith private.
 
Prayer
5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the
street corners to be seen by others.
Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

It was a unacceptable spectacle and a disgrace to show a man praying for the Potus on national TV.

Then again I believe in the Separation of Church and State, I do not want a theocratic government where only the leaders can screw whoever they want and lead a life of crime, like Saudi Arabia.
AMEN! I don't care about the Separation of Church and State so much here, as just downright hypocritical showmanship. How gullible does he think we are?

Showmanship? Do you have a functional on/off button on your TV? Can't you change the channels?
Nowhere close to the point, is it?

The closest point to you is apparently on the top of your head, libtard!

No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to watch it, are they?

You don't have a warning, they just show it. All the channels show it. I do not watch Christian channels for that very reason, I do not want to have it forced down my throat. I should be able to watch the news without having to see this , of which I disagree with going out of ones way to get an Evangelical home, like in NK. He is a Turk, not an American citizen.

Obviously, you are under tremendous conviction, if you live in such fear of being exposed to Christians. LOOK OUT, there's one right behind you! Now change your underwear and get back to work.
 
Prayer
5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the
street corners to be seen by others.
Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

It was a unacceptable spectacle and a disgrace to show a man praying for the Potus on national TV.

Then again I believe in the Separation of Church and State, I do not want a theocratic government where only the leaders can screw whoever they want and lead a life of crime, like Saudi Arabia.
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Which were orchestrated, scheduled & shown on National TV?
 
You mean Evangelicals, and there Is a time and place for everything, and that was not it. On national TV. And he said, in Jesus's name. I am so upset over this.
Raging TDS alert! :cuckoo:
Someone call the waaaaaambulance!

Trump can go to a church or in a closet and have someone pray over him. Not TDS, Separation of Church and State. The last thing I want if to be controlled by Evangelicals but it sure looks like they are everywhere and far deep into politics, like usual. Jeffress is so sickening, they all are. See my sig. That tells you everything you need to know. Disgusting demons.

What is it about free expression that you people don't understand?

Pray in private, we do not want to turn on tv and a ? pastor is on his knees gushing up the Potus with a scripted pray. Also keep it out of public schools.

You mentioned turning on the TV, so you can also turn it off. And yes, we DO want to see the president praying and being prayed for on TV.
Do you think Trump is a good Christian?
 
Raging TDS alert! :cuckoo:
Someone call the waaaaaambulance!

Trump can go to a church or in a closet and have someone pray over him. Not TDS, Separation of Church and State. The last thing I want if to be controlled by Evangelicals but it sure looks like they are everywhere and far deep into politics, like usual. Jeffress is so sickening, they all are. See my sig. That tells you everything you need to know. Disgusting demons.

What is it about free expression that you people don't understand?

Pray in private, we do not want to turn on tv and a ? pastor is on his knees gushing up the Potus with a scripted pray. Also keep it out of public schools.

You mentioned turning on the TV, so you can also turn it off. And yes, we DO want to see the president praying and being prayed for on TV.
Do you think Trump is a good Christian?
Sure they do All of them are hypocrites
 
What is it about free expression that you people don't understand?

Pray in private, we do not want to turn on tv and a ? pastor is on his knees gushing up the Potus with a scripted pray. Also keep it out of public schools.

Really don't understand the First Amendment, do you?

I understand freedom of religion and that includes Muslims, Jews, Hindus and all the atheists and agnostics in the US. The Potus of the US is suppose to honor the freedom of religion. He instead dwells on Christianity, his new founded religion and voters. Also the Evangelicals, and how they love to control and interfere in politics. See my sig, oh how they all swarm around him.


do you include Muslims, Jews, Hindus and all the atheists and agnostics in the US in your daily (?) meditations?

Does he have to give up his own beliefs because he is POTUS?

your sig?

nothing more than childish bait

No of course he can be a Christian. The pastor who I question should of never done that in the Oval Office and Trump should not of allowed it. I am not on TV or the Potus of the US. My prayer life is no ones business except my immediate family and friends. Its private and should never interfere in politics.

My sig is a pic of what should never happen on TV in the oval office and be on the news.

I might add, I do not want an evangelical as a president and he seems to be one.

I want to add, since Trump believes in a God, then he doesn't believe he is God, but why do some many of his followers treat him like a God and laugh and applaud even when they know he is lying.

You simply have no Constitutional grounds on which to be upset.
 
Raging TDS alert! :cuckoo:
Someone call the waaaaaambulance!

Trump can go to a church or in a closet and have someone pray over him. Not TDS, Separation of Church and State. The last thing I want if to be controlled by Evangelicals but it sure looks like they are everywhere and far deep into politics, like usual. Jeffress is so sickening, they all are. See my sig. That tells you everything you need to know. Disgusting demons.

What is it about free expression that you people don't understand?

Pray in private, we do not want to turn on tv and a ? pastor is on his knees gushing up the Potus with a scripted pray. Also keep it out of public schools.

You mentioned turning on the TV, so you can also turn it off. And yes, we DO want to see the president praying and being prayed for on TV.
Do you think Trump is a good Christian?

What's a "good Christian"? Be specific, with references.
 
Prayer
5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the
street corners to be seen by others.
Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

It was a unacceptable spectacle and a disgrace to show a man praying for the Potus on national TV.

Then again I believe in the Separation of Church and State, I do not want a theocratic government where only the leaders can screw whoever they want and lead a life of crime, like Saudi Arabia.
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Which were orchestrated, scheduled & shown on National TV?


Of course not...

Obama wanted to play a game of ring around the rosie, and the staff photographer happened to be passing the door, and thought it made a cute shot.

Of COURSE it was orchestrated and scheduled.
 
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