Maybe I was right about Trump and the Democrats

[jc456]

MAC, master of the double joint

 

[Mac1958]

Okay, this is getting creepy.

 

[jc456]

Admittedly, I'm not good at predicting partisan political stuff - Much of the time I don't know what I'm supposed to believe. But my concern when Trump first got into office was that things would go so nuts that the backlash would be strongest not from the rank-and-file Democrats, but from the hardcore Left. Then 2020 would end up being a race between the two whacked-out ends of the spectrum.

About six weeks after he got into office (2/25/2017), I said the following in this thread: Will the Resistance fade?

Was I right?

Post 1:

What worries me is that a Trump flameout would usher back in the "progressives", not liberals, and the madness will continue - just in a different form.

Post 10:

Perhaps the biggest irony of Trump's presidency is the possibility that it could lead to the mother of all backlashes. If he fouls this up quickly, the progressive zealots who still control the Democratic party will be able to pop right back in, only with a vengeance this time. There will be no time for the decent, traditional liberals to get any kind of foothold in the party.

Post 72:

It's early, but every indication I've seen to this point is as you describe. The party energy is clearly geared to move it solidly Left. But again, that's the danger here: If Trump blows this, the "progressives" will be waiting and the country will swing in that direction.

I said something similar after he was elected. Except, I didn't expect that this massive backlash from the alt-left, global socialist funded radicals would occur if and when he succeeded. I assumed, if he failed, socialism would take the WH after him. He is succeeding though, in spite of their efforts.

Instead of saying "hey, this works for America and let's move closer to this America First ideology, they decided that "to hell with what works. We just want power". That should concern the world. The U.S can fight the bad guys, nobody else can (or will).

This means any described benefit for the average citizens decreases significantly as the real objective is power, not prescription or policies. Leaders must lead, for their constituents. We are watching a global world that lacks leadership and it demanded an outsider of the highest order to expose it. Listen to all they talk about in the debates "I will give this group, free shyte! Vote for me!". Neither practical nor responsible.

Really, what more perfect situation would it be than Donald Trump winning presidency in America. An already well known businessman, patriot and showman who is about as defiant as there is, and, running the most influential nation. It was perfect. Especially is defiance. He's as stubborn as a mule and it's helped him greatly in his vast support.

He understands this so well that he is making damned sure it stays this way. Thus, crushing China and putting back in line any nation, friend or foe, that exploits America, has to be done.

Whether or not he will have succeeded is up for debate, but he's certainly become the lightning rod that has made it much easier for the hardcore Left to mobilize.

This is one high-wire act. The risk he represents to the GOP and what has happened to the Democratic Party appears to be playing out, though.
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Yes, you can argue the contrary as well. The left, with attacks on free speech, Supreme Court choices, the pile on from the MSM has mobilized Trumps team even more. His stance on China and the border, once viewed "radical" and "extreme" has now become more and more mainstream in the eyes of Americans.

That is VERY good for his prospects. The single black mother in government housing who voted for Democrats her entire like now sees school choice for her child, HUD coming there and creating Opportunity Zones. She sees someone finally standing up to illegals stealing jobs and other companies exporting theirs to CHina. She and her child have hope.

If you don't believe me. Remember that meat company business that was raided and hundreds of illegal immigrants arrested? Well, guess what? Appears Americans are willing to do those jobs, they have all been replaced by citizens.

There are 100's of stories Trump can use to paint his successes and to defy the narrative. To be honest, I would love to be on his team and advising on some of them, that's how easy I think it would be.

He can succeed in not only strengthening his base, but expanding dramatically. On twitter alone you see the activity, the coming together of Trumps base with former Dems (#walkaway) and Never Trumpers who say, "you were right, I now support Trump".

The point is that he has indeed mobilized his base, AND the base of the Democrats.

So what we may have in 2020 may well be an election between the two bases, leaving the rest of the country to deal with whichever whacked-out base wins.

Neither base represents anything near the majority of the country, yet the rest of us will have to deal with the results.
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and that's different than any other election cycle how?

 

[jc456]

Admittedly, I'm not good at predicting partisan political stuff - Much of the time I don't know what I'm supposed to believe. But my concern when Trump first got into office was that things would go so nuts that the backlash would be strongest not from the rank-and-file Democrats, but from the hardcore Left. Then 2020 would end up being a race between the two whacked-out ends of the spectrum.

About six weeks after he got into office (2/25/2017), I said the following in this thread: Will the Resistance fade?

Was I right?

Post 1:

What worries me is that a Trump flameout would usher back in the "progressives", not liberals, and the madness will continue - just in a different form.

Post 10:

Perhaps the biggest irony of Trump's presidency is the possibility that it could lead to the mother of all backlashes. If he fouls this up quickly, the progressive zealots who still control the Democratic party will be able to pop right back in, only with a vengeance this time. There will be no time for the decent, traditional liberals to get any kind of foothold in the party.

Post 72:

It's early, but every indication I've seen to this point is as you describe. The party energy is clearly geared to move it solidly Left. But again, that's the danger here: If Trump blows this, the "progressives" will be waiting and the country will swing in that direction.

You do realize that getting along is way overrated?

No.
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Less laws. Less abuse of power.

less illegals, more jobs.

 

[iceberg]

Okay, this is getting creepy.

threads of self praise often do that.

 

[Mac1958]

Okay, this is getting creepy.

threads of self praise often do that.

I didn't mean to trigger you Trumpsters.

Sorry.

Okay, I'm not really sorry.
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[miketx]

Okay, this is getting creepy.

threads of self praise often do that.

I didn't mean to trigger you Trumpsters.

Sorry.

Okay, I'm not sorry.
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You haven't triggered anyone, You're just another lying piece of garbage who is not capable of being honest.

 

[jc456]

Okay, this is getting creepy.

threads of self praise often do that.

I didn't mean to trigger you Trumpsters.

Sorry.

Okay, I'm not sorry.
.

 

[jc456]

Okay, this is getting creepy.

threads of self praise often do that.

I didn't mean to trigger you Trumpsters.

Sorry.

Okay, I'm not sorry.
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You haven't triggered anyone, You're just another lying piece of garbage who is not capable of being honest.

whatever respect he once had, he's thrown that in the tank. Is this what happens, you think, when a mental patient starts going mental? I once was taught that talking to yourself was ok, but answering yourself was a sign. I see his.

 

[Pete7469]

so what was the point? whether or not you were right or what you may have been right about?

The point of every self absorbed pseudo-intellectual bed wetter is to belittle others as ambiguously as they can, and then act all indignant when the responses ridicule them in turn.

Mac's basically become a caricature of Deanturd pretending to be a scholar rather than just a whining little asshole.


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[jc456]

so what was the point? whether or not you were right or what you may have been right about?

The point of every self absorbed pseudo-intellectual bed wetter is to belittle others as ambiguously as they can, and then act all indignant when the responses ridicule them in turn.

Mac's basically become a caricature of Deanturd pretending to be a scholar rather than just a whining little asshole.


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yep shaming is the end game. publicly too, as much as possible.

 

[iceberg]

Okay, this is getting creepy.

threads of self praise often do that.

I didn't mean to trigger you Trumpsters.

Sorry.

Okay, I'm not really sorry.
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and now you're calling me a trumpster because i disagree with something you did.

how...cute. it can't be i just don't like self-serving posts, it has to be something related to an implied love for trump OF WHICH i obviously do not have.

whatever dude. i'll go ahead and just leave you alone for awhile til you realize the world doesn't revolve around trump for everyone out here.

 

[Pete7469]

yep shaming is the end game. publicly too, as much as possible.

It's Saul Alinsky Rule#5

The problem for the bed wetters is that the tactic has been turned on them. Their own ridiculous image is easy to mock, let alone their deliberate ignorance, dedication to misinformation and lies, and just pure blatant stupidity.

One would think they would feel some sort of shame, but the problem with adherence to liberalism is that you can not actually "think" and continue to be a moonbat. If you're actually a rational, thinking person, you can not reach the conclusions bed wetters do. That is why they don't even realize how stupid they look.

Which is fine, that's why they're losing and will hopefully continue to do so.


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[Mac1958]

whatever dude. .

Whatever dude!
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[TroglocratsRdumb]

Admittedly, I'm not good at predicting partisan political stuff - Much of the time I don't know what I'm supposed to believe. But my concern when Trump first got into office was that things would go so nuts that the backlash would be strongest not from the rank-and-file Democrats, but from the hardcore Left. Then 2020 would end up being a race between the two whacked-out ends of the spectrum.

About six weeks after he got into office (2/25/2017), I said the following in this thread: Will the Resistance fade?

Was I right?

Post 1:

What worries me is that a Trump flameout would usher back in the "progressives", not liberals, and the madness will continue - just in a different form.

Post 10:

Perhaps the biggest irony of Trump's presidency is the possibility that it could lead to the mother of all backlashes. If he fouls this up quickly, the progressive zealots who still control the Democratic party will be able to pop right back in, only with a vengeance this time. There will be no time for the decent, traditional liberals to get any kind of foothold in the party.

Post 72:

It's early, but every indication I've seen to this point is as you describe. The party energy is clearly geared to move it solidly Left. But again, that's the danger here: If Trump blows this, the "progressives" will be waiting and the country will swing in that direction.

Trump has been much better than I expected.
He fights back.
But, the Press/Hollywood Democrat hate machine is doing exactly what I thought that they would do.
They are apoplectic with fanatical irrational hate.

 

[jc456]

whatever dude. .

Whatever dude!
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[Mac1958]

But, the Press/Hollywood Democrat hate machine is doing exactly what I thought that they would do.
They are apoplectic with fanatical irrational hate.

Well, I agree to a point. The party and the media have pretty much lost their shit.

So that's my concern. The party is now more and more under the control of the Regressive Left, and there are no guarantees for Trump in 2020.

I don't think that wild swings back and forth are a good idea. Especially when they're THIS wild.
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[Crixus]

Admittedly, I'm not good at predicting partisan political stuff - Much of the time I don't know what I'm supposed to believe. But my concern when Trump first got into office was that things would go so nuts that the backlash would be strongest not from the rank-and-file Democrats, but from the hardcore Left. Then 2020 would end up being a race between the two whacked-out ends of the spectrum.

About six weeks after he got into office (2/25/2017), I said the following in this thread: Will the Resistance fade?

Was I right?

Post 1:

What worries me is that a Trump flameout would usher back in the "progressives", not liberals, and the madness will continue - just in a different form.

Post 10:

Perhaps the biggest irony of Trump's presidency is the possibility that it could lead to the mother of all backlashes. If he fouls this up quickly, the progressive zealots who still control the Democratic party will be able to pop right back in, only with a vengeance this time. There will be no time for the decent, traditional liberals to get any kind of foothold in the party.

Post 72:

It's early, but every indication I've seen to this point is as you describe. The party energy is clearly geared to move it solidly Left. But again, that's the danger here: If Trump blows this, the "progressives" will be waiting and the country will swing in that direction.

Well Mac, they came out the day he took office. In my opinion, it wasn't that Trump won, it's that the token negro had to leave. I believe what we are seeing isn't TDS, it's OWS, Obama withdrawal syndrome.

 

[Correll]

Admittedly, I'm not good at predicting partisan political stuff - Much of the time I don't know what I'm supposed to believe. But my concern when Trump first got into office was that things would go so nuts that the backlash would be strongest not from the rank-and-file Democrats, but from the hardcore Left. Then 2020 would end up being a race between the two whacked-out ends of the spectrum.

About six weeks after he got into office (2/25/2017), I said the following in this thread: Will the Resistance fade?

Was I right?

Post 1:

What worries me is that a Trump flameout would usher back in the "progressives", not liberals, and the madness will continue - just in a different form.

Post 10:

Perhaps the biggest irony of Trump's presidency is the possibility that it could lead to the mother of all backlashes. If he fouls this up quickly, the progressive zealots who still control the Democratic party will be able to pop right back in, only with a vengeance this time. There will be no time for the decent, traditional liberals to get any kind of foothold in the party.

Post 72:

It's early, but every indication I've seen to this point is as you describe. The party energy is clearly geared to move it solidly Left. But again, that's the danger here: If Trump blows this, the "progressives" will be waiting and the country will swing in that direction.

Except that the only way that Trump has "flamed out" is that he has received the most massive propaganda campaign in modern history.


THe economy is fine. There have been no foreign policy disasters. There is not rioting in the streets, other than in liberal cities when they tell the police to stand down.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

How modest of you...

Can you lick your own balls too?


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A good, thoughtful and reasoned Trumpian-level response, thanks.
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I thought it was VERY clever. Get a sense of humor ffs