Maybe I was right about Trump and the Democrats

[TNHarley]

Mac voted for an extremist in 2016. A corporatist war mongering extremist.
Those that are blind cannot see

 

[TNHarley]

If no one wants to address the actual point of the thread, the mods can shut 'er down.

This folks is what happens when someone is 'riding the cotton pony' and has just finished drinking a bottle of cooking sherry.

I'm so stealing that lol

 

[Jets]

If the loudest voices in this election are the Trump GOP and the Warren
/Sanders faction of the Democratic Party, than the point of the OP has been realized.

 

[miketx]

Admittedly, I'm not good at predicting partisan political stuff - Much of the time I don't know what I'm supposed to believe. But my concern when Trump first got into office was that things would go so nuts that the backlash would be strongest not from the rank-and-file Democrats, but from the hardcore Left. Then 2020 would end up being a race between the two whacked-out ends of the spectrum.

About six weeks after he got into office (2/25/2017), I said the following in this thread: Will the Resistance fade?

Was I right?

Post 1:

What worries me is that a Trump flameout would usher back in the "progressives", not liberals, and the madness will continue - just in a different form.

Post 10:

Perhaps the biggest irony of Trump's presidency is the possibility that it could lead to the mother of all backlashes. If he fouls this up quickly, the progressive zealots who still control the Democratic party will be able to pop right back in, only with a vengeance this time. There will be no time for the decent, traditional liberals to get any kind of foothold in the party.

Post 72:

It's early, but every indication I've seen to this point is as you describe. The party energy is clearly geared to move it solidly Left. But again, that's the danger here: If Trump blows this, the "progressives" will be waiting and the country will swing in that direction.

A broken clock is more accurate than you.

 

[Rustic]

Admittedly, I'm not good at predicting partisan political stuff - Much of the time I don't know what I'm supposed to believe. But my concern when Trump first got into office was that things would go so nuts that the backlash would be strongest not from the rank-and-file Democrats, but from the hardcore Left. Then 2020 would end up being a race between the two whacked-out ends of the spectrum.

About six weeks after he got into office (2/25/2017), I said the following in this thread: Will the Resistance fade?

Was I right?

Post 1:

What worries me is that a Trump flameout would usher back in the "progressives", not liberals, and the madness will continue - just in a different form.

Post 10:

Perhaps the biggest irony of Trump's presidency is the possibility that it could lead to the mother of all backlashes. If he fouls this up quickly, the progressive zealots who still control the Democratic party will be able to pop right back in, only with a vengeance this time. There will be no time for the decent, traditional liberals to get any kind of foothold in the party.

Post 72:

It's early, but every indication I've seen to this point is as you describe. The party energy is clearly geared to move it solidly Left. But again, that's the danger here: If Trump blows this, the "progressives" will be waiting and the country will swing in that direction.

I said something similar after he was elected. Except, I didn't expect that this massive backlash from the alt-left, global socialist funded radicals would occur if and when he succeeded. I assumed, if he failed, socialism would take the WH after him. He is succeeding though, in spite of their efforts.

Instead of saying "hey, this works for America and let's move closer to this America First ideology, they decided that "to hell with what works. We just want power". That should concern the world. The U.S can fight the bad guys, nobody else can (or will).

This means any described benefit for the average citizens decreases significantly as the real objective is power, not prescription or policies. Leaders must lead, for their constituents. We are watching a global world that lacks leadership and it demanded an outsider of the highest order to expose it. Listen to all they talk about in the debates "I will give this group, free shyte! Vote for me!". Neither practical nor responsible.

Really, what more perfect situation would it be than Donald Trump winning presidency in America. An already well known businessman, patriot and showman who is about as defiant as there is, and, running the most influential nation. It was perfect. Especially is defiance. He's as stubborn as a mule and it's helped him greatly in his vast support.

He understands this so well that he is making damned sure it stays this way. Thus, crushing China and putting back in line any nation, friend or foe, that exploits America, has to be done.

Whether or not he will have succeeded is up for debate, but he's certainly become the lightning rod that has made it much easier for the hardcore Left to mobilize.

This is one high-wire act. The risk he represents to the GOP and what has happened to the Democratic Party appears to be playing out, though.
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Yes, you can argue the contrary as well. The left, with attacks on free speech, Supreme Court choices, the pile on from the MSM has mobilized Trumps team even more. His stance on China and the border, once viewed "radical" and "extreme" has now become more and more mainstream in the eyes of Americans.

That is VERY good for his prospects. The single black mother in government housing who voted for Democrats her entire like now sees school choice for her child, HUD coming there and creating Opportunity Zones. She sees someone finally standing up to illegals stealing jobs and other companies exporting theirs to CHina. She and her child have hope.

If you don't believe me. Remember that meat company business that was raided and hundreds of illegal immigrants arrested? Well, guess what? Appears Americans are willing to do those jobs, they have all been replaced by citizens.

There are 100's of stories Trump can use to paint his successes and to defy the narrative. To be honest, I would love to be on his team and advising on some of them, that's how easy I think it would be.

He can succeed in not only strengthening his base, but expanding dramatically. On twitter alone you see the activity, the coming together of Trumps base with former Dems (#walkaway) and Never Trumpers who say, "you were right, I now support Trump".

The point is that he has indeed mobilized his base, AND the base of the Democrats.

So what we may have in 2020 may well be an election between the two bases, leaving the rest of the country to deal with whichever whacked-out base wins.

Neither base represents anything near the majority of the country, yet the rest of us will have to deal with the results.
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Roughly 40% of the country is conservative, 20% of the country progressive... the rest are on the fence...

 

[BluesLegend]

The rest of the country? Over 60 million voters chose Trump he won 30 states, over 300 EC votes, and won the popular vote by 1 million votes in 49 of the 50 states. Only illegal/liberal infested California did Hillary win 4 million more votes than Trump. OP its pretty clear the center chose a side, we are still waiting for you to.

 

[Mac1958]

The rest of the country? Over 60 million voters chose Trump he won 30 states, over 300 EC votes, and won the popular vote by 1 million votes in 49 of the 50 states. Only illegal/liberal infested California did Hillary win 4 million more votes than Trump. OP its pretty clear the center chose a side, we are still waiting for you to.

I've already chosen a side, long ago. Against wingers.
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[BluesLegend]

The rest of the country? Over 60 million voters chose Trump he won 30 states, over 300 EC votes, and won the popular vote by 1 million votes in 49 of the 50 states. Only illegal/liberal infested California did Hillary win 4 million more votes than Trump. OP its pretty clear the center chose a side, we are still waiting for you to.

I've already chosen a side, long ago. Against wingers.
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You do not represent the center.

 

[Mac1958]

The rest of the country? Over 60 million voters chose Trump he won 30 states, over 300 EC votes, and won the popular vote by 1 million votes in 49 of the 50 states. Only illegal/liberal infested California did Hillary win 4 million more votes than Trump. OP its pretty clear the center chose a side, we are still waiting for you to.

I've already chosen a side, long ago. Against wingers.
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You do not represent the center.

Correct, nor do I claim to.
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[BluesLegend]

The rest of the country? Over 60 million voters chose Trump he won 30 states, over 300 EC votes, and won the popular vote by 1 million votes in 49 of the 50 states. Only illegal/liberal infested California did Hillary win 4 million more votes than Trump. OP its pretty clear the center chose a side, we are still waiting for you to.

I've already chosen a side, long ago. Against wingers.
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You do not represent the center.

Correct, nor do I claim to.
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Please, that is your entire schtick around here.

 

[Mac1958]

You do not represent the center.

Correct, nor do I claim to.

Please, that is your entire schtick around here.

Ah. So is that why the second line of my sig says this?

2. >>> For the liars who pretend I claim to be a centrist/moderate/impartial/unbiased/fence-sitter: Come on Jake, man up, just this once.

Get me out of your head. It's not a pleasant place to be.
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[The Original Tree]

Mac is a Devil Worshiping Anti-American, Christian & Jew Hating, Leftist Communist Marxist, Anti-Capitalist, ANTIFA FAG Supporting, Hairy Man Butt Loving, Pro Socialist Radical who thinks Killing Babies is good for business and thinks Conservatives should be rounded up and placed in Cattle Cars and shipped off to Concentration Camps.

But worst of all, He is Racist.

 

[Mac1958]

Mac is a Devil Worshiping Anti-American, Christian & Jew Hating, Leftist Communist Marxist, Anti-Capitalist, ANTIFA FAG Supporting, Pro Socialist Radical who thinks Killing Babies is good for business and thinks Conservatives should be rounded up and placed in Cattle Cars and shipped off to Concentration Camps.

I think you're really nailed it there!

 

[Mac1958]

Little did I know this thread would to so Trumpster-triggering!

 

[BluesLegend]

You do not represent the center.

Correct, nor do I claim to.

Please, that is your entire schtick around here.

Ah. So is that why the second line of my sig says this?

2. >>> For the liars who pretend I claim to be a centrist/moderate/impartial/unbiased/fence-sitter: Come on Jake, man up, just this once.

Get me out of your head. It's not a pleasant place to be.
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Your threads are routinely mocked and laughed at.

 

[Mac1958]

You do not represent the center.

Correct, nor do I claim to.

Please, that is your entire schtick around here.

Ah. So is that why the second line of my sig says this?

2. >>> For the liars who pretend I claim to be a centrist/moderate/impartial/unbiased/fence-sitter: Come on Jake, man up, just this once.

Get me out of your head. It's not a pleasant place to be.
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Your threads are routinely mocked and laughed at.

By wingers. Yep. That pleases me.
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[The Original Tree]

Mac is a Devil Worshiping Anti-American, Christian & Jew Hating, Leftist Communist Marxist, Anti-Capitalist, ANTIFA FAG Supporting, Pro Socialist Radical who thinks Killing Babies is good for business and thinks Conservatives should be rounded up and placed in Cattle Cars and shipped off to Concentration Camps.

I think you're really nailed it there!

I'm a very good judge of character.

 

[The Original Tree]

You do not represent the center.

Correct, nor do I claim to.

Please, that is your entire schtick around here.

Ah. So is that why the second line of my sig says this?

2. >>> For the liars who pretend I claim to be a centrist/moderate/impartial/unbiased/fence-sitter: Come on Jake, man up, just this once.

Get me out of your head. It's not a pleasant place to be.
.

Your threads are routinely mocked and laughed at.

By wingers. Yep. That pleases me.
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German Nazis pinned paper stars of David on the chests of their enemies & victims.
You should start pinning big Paper "W"s on yours for "Wingers".

DemNazis same as Them Nazis

 

[BluesLegend]

You do not represent the center.

Correct, nor do I claim to.

Please, that is your entire schtick around here.

Ah. So is that why the second line of my sig says this?

2. >>> For the liars who pretend I claim to be a centrist/moderate/impartial/unbiased/fence-sitter: Come on Jake, man up, just this once.

Get me out of your head. It's not a pleasant place to be.
.

Your threads are routinely mocked and laughed at.

By wingers. Yep. That pleases me.
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If only you had 4 hands you wouldn't be conflicted about which shoe to tie first am I right.

 

[Mac1958]