McCain Camp Wants to Postpone VP Debate

[Article 15]

We're scared? You're the ones screaming like a pig with a stick up your kiester!

You don't mesh very well with reality, do you?

 

[jschuck12001]

Thanks!

I got tix to game 4 ... hopefully the Angels don't sweep us!

No way they sweep you, I would rather play the angels than redsox any day.

 

[WillowTree]

You don't mesh very well with reality, do you?

unlike you paranoid freaks!

 

[freethought]

(I say this as someone who has worked at high levels of politics and campaigns before)

My suspicion is that what happened is they saw the recent presidential poll numbers, as well as general polls stating the economy was the top priority, and that 75% of americans think the republicans are to blame.

They know they are going to lose in the debates, and Mccain's pledge to stay in iraq (not just for 100 years, but in general, especially with the cost involved and the crisis), will not go over well and the debate will likely tip the polls even less in his favor.

So all of that was likely weighing on him and the campaign.

Meanwhile the collapses were piling up, and he wasn't doing anything on that front, because he was away from the senate campaigning. Frankly, neither one of them would likely have returned for the vote on whatever bill gets passed.

And, if I were to make a total stab in the dark, they were probably discussing his schedule and how he could make an appearance and be seen on the issue, and someone came up with the idea of skipping the debate. They figured it would A) make Obama look like he isn't doing anything and McCain is, B) make it seem like Obama doesn't care, C) get out of what likely would have been a major loss in the debate and poll numbers as a result of the debate.

The idea itself is actually a good political idea, but is contingent upon the American public buying into it, and I don't think anyone other than current staunch republicans (the 25% that always seem to support Bush) will, with everyone else viewing it as nothing more than a tactic to get out of the debate, especially since he has little finance/economic policy experience and the dems control both houses. If online click polls/surveys mean anything, the 75% number not liking the move is actually pretty close from what I've seen on a few sites.

In short, it's a calculated risk, but one that will likely save him nothing if he actually forgoes the debate. I think the drop for skipping the debate will likely be the same as if he had taken part in the debate on foreign policy and got nailed. And maybe his team think that's a pretty fair trade off.

And if he does show up, he now has a bit of a talking point for a while, in that he can accuse Obama of not agreeing ie: McCain cares more.

Very strange campaign from here on out, I think.

 

[CA95380]

Not to fear. rove says McCain will make the debates.

If he makes the debates now then he did not accomplish what he 'said' he was going to do. So why should we believe he will do 'what he says he will do' once he is elected?

I think I like this kind of seesaw .. or is it the new McCain/Palin dance craze?

Flip flop.....Waffle-Waffle.....Flip flop

 

[DavidS]

McCain Camp Wants To Postpone VP Debate

John McCain's campaign now wants to suspend the VP debate?

CNN's Dana Bash reports that McCain officials are "trying to negotiate with the Obama campaign and the presidential debate commission" to change next Thursday's planned vice presidential debate into a McCain-Obama affair. The VP debate would be postponed to another date.

"That is what they are proposing," Bash reported. "[McCain officials] understand very well that both the Obama campaign and the debate commission have no intention of delaying Friday's debate, but...if there is no bailout deal by Friday, McCain has no plan to go to debate."

If 35 million people get to watch Joe Biden eat Sarah Palin for breakfast and spit out her Kawasaki glasses, it would be a disaster for McCain, an utter disaster. I don't even think Alabama would vote for McCain. We would see more blue states than 1940.

 

[WillowTree]

Huffinton...

 

[Article 15]

I almost feel bad for the Republicans.

 

[DavidS]

Huffinton...

I love your sarcasm, but the Huff Post was just reporting a story that CNN had. IF you go to the link, there's a video. This is no joke, Willow. Palin hasn't been able to stand up to Charles Gibson or Katie Couric... how the hell do you think she'd fair against Biden? The guy is an animal!

 

[Dr Grump]

However, Biden better make sure he doesn't bully her or talk down to her, or people will walk in droves. He needs to dissect her nicely, calmly and precisely...

 

[oreo]

McCain cancels several interviews & the Friday night debate with opponent Barack Obama. This is nothing new for John McCain. In fact democrat senate leader, Harry Reid, stated two days ago, they needed John McCain back on the floor instead of where ever he was, campaigning for President.

What did McCain do? He cancelled all interviews including the Friday night debate with Barack Obama over foreign policy.

Noteably--the Obama campaign stated earlier-- that this debate over foreign policy would be a 100% McCain win, because McCain is much more experienced in foreign policy than Barack Obama.

So McCain takes the loss on this one, while Barack Obama is intending to debate himself, on Friday night if need be.

This, while for the last six months, McCain has asked Obama to debate him in town halls across this nation. Obama refused each & every time.

So now we're in a financial crisis, that could equal the great depression of the 1930's, & which Warren Buffet refers to as the "Pearl Harbor" of our financial district. We all get hurt, from cash in the bank, to keeping our jobs, to 401-K's to retirement funds.

So John McCain gives up a CERTAIN win on the Friday night debate, to go back to D.C for us.

There are polticians that use the word change go promote their careers, & then their are politicians that use their careers to make change.

 

[jillian]

However, Biden better make sure he doesn't bully her or talk down to her, or people will walk in droves. He needs to dissect her nicely, calmly and precisely...

He's pretty good at eviscerating people in the nicest way possible. He's already started talking about how he doesn't know if he can beat her.

 

[dilloduck]

However, Biden better make sure he doesn't bully her or talk down to her, or people will walk in droves. He needs to dissect her nicely, calmly and precisely...

HAH--He's scared shitless that the camera will catch him looking at her chest ! One little peek and he's a dead man. (damn glad it ain't me ! )

 

[xsited1]

McCain cancels several interviews & the Friday night debate with opponent Barack Obama. This is nothing new for John McCain. In fact democrat senate leader, Harry Reid, stated two days ago, they needed John McCain back on the floor instead of where ever he was, campaigning for President.

What did McCain do? He cancelled all interviews including the Friday night debate with Barack Obama over foreign policy.

Noteably--the Obama campaign stated earlier--that this debate over foreign policy would be a McCain win, because McCain is much more experienced in foreign policy than Barack Obama.

So McCain takes the loss on this one, while Barack Obama is intending to debate himself, on Friday night if need be.

This, while for the last six months, McCain has asked Obama to debate him in town halls across this nation. Obama refused each & every time.

So now we're in a financial crisis, that could equal the great depression of the 1930's, & which Warren Buffet refers to as the "Pearl Harbor" of our financial district. We all get hurt, from cash in the bank, to 401-K's to retirement funds.

So John McCain gives up a CERTAIN win to go back to D.C for us.

There are polticians that use the word change go promote their careers, & then their are politicians that use their careers to make change.

 

[Dr Grump]

(damn glad it ain't me ! )

We know...

 

[jreeves]

However, Biden better make sure he doesn't bully her or talk down to her, or people will walk in droves. He needs to dissect her nicely, calmly and precisely...

Like this right....

Now that Alaska is front and center in the news again, it is a good time to catch up on a favorite story, The Bridge to Nowhere, using the Washington Post US Congress Votes Database.

Though Gov. Palin originally supported the earmark spending on the Ketchikan bridge (“to nowhere), she eventually killed the project, chosing to spend Federal money on other infrasturcture programs.However, Sen. Biden and Sen. Obama voted for funding the Bridge, even when given a second chance by Sen. Tom Coburn, who proposed shifting earmark funds to Katrina relief.
Sen. McCain did not vote on the Coburn Amendment, though he is on record as opposing the Ketchikan bridge earmark.

Chicago Daily Observer | Obama and Biden Voted for Bridge to Nowhere



Biden, Obama helped keep 'Bridge to Nowhere' alive - CNN.com

 

[Dr Grump]

McCain cancels several interviews & the Friday night debate with opponent Barack Obama. This is nothing new for John McCain. In fact democrat senate leader, Harry Reid, stated two days ago, they needed John McCain back on the floor instead of where ever he was, campaigning for President.

What did McCain do? He cancelled all interviews including the Friday night debate with Barack Obama over foreign policy.

Noteably--the Obama campaign stated earlier-- that this debate over foreign policy would be a 100% McCain win, because McCain is much more experienced in foreign policy than Barack Obama.

So McCain takes the loss on this one, while Barack Obama is intending to debate himself, on Friday night if need be.

This, while for the last six months, McCain has asked Obama to debate him in town halls across this nation. Obama refused each & every time.

So now we're in a financial crisis, that could equal the great depression of the 1930's, & which Warren Buffet refers to as the "Pearl Harbor" of our financial district. We all get hurt, from cash in the bank, to keeping our jobs, to 401-K's to retirement funds.

So John McCain gives up a CERTAIN win on the Friday night debate, to go back to D.C for us.

There are polticians that use the word change go promote their careers, & then their are politicians that use their careers to make change.

Obama suggested a raincheck first fool!

 

[oreo]

McCain chickens out of the debate....

Down in the polls, in serious trouble, he had to do something.

McCain suspending campaign to deal with Wall Street crisis | Markets | Markets News | Reuters

The Obama campaign committee put out a statement two days ago, to not expect to much from BO over foreign policy.

McCain can kick Barack Obama's lilly whimpy BUTT 3 times around the block on foreign policy, in any debate.

(McCain, instead cancelled this definite WIN to go back to D.C to work for us, the American people).

McCain realises that this financial crisis is the worst we've seen since the 1930's.

There are politicians that use the "word" change to promote their careers, & then there are politicians who use their careers to make change.

 

[Stoner]

why can't they have it on Sunday? It's not as if we don't know what the dudes are gonna say.

We all know what Hussein Obama will say. "Um, uh, um, uh, um, uh...where be my teleprompter, yo?"

 

[Laine]

They just need to have Nader stand in for the night and he would demolish Obama in ways McCain could not. Nader and Barr did respond to McCain's request to delay the debates.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/0...s-debate-slot/

With John McCain calling to cancel Friday’s presidential debate and the host university pressing forward with preparations, two third party candidates have offered to step in so the show can go on.

Barack Obama has dismissed McCain’s call to delay Friday’s debate, but that didn’t stop independent candidate Ralph Nader and the Libertarian Party’s Bob Barr from contacting the scheduled host, Jim Lehrer, and offering themselves as stand-ins. “There are two other candidates that cover a wide girth of real estate across the political spectrum who have fresh approaches on how to deal with the economic challenges facing our country,” a spokesman wrote on behalf of Nader and Barr.


Nader was on Capitol Hill Tuesday criticizing the influence of big business in government – what he calls “the corporate fascism dominating Washington.” He called the recent exchanges before the congressional committees “stampede hearings” meant to scare members of Congress into ceding their constitutional authority. “Look at the dictatorial demand by Bush and Paulson for total authority, total immunity, and zero judicial review. This is fascism — to bail out Wall Street.”
After decades of calling for greater oversight of financial markets, holding conferences to voice concerns about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and – as recently as July – warning that the federal government’s bank insurance fund could be insufficient, the current financial crisis is bittersweet vindication for Nader. “You can be right and right and right,” he said. “If you’re right in sports prediction, if you’re right in business prediction, you get all kinds of awards. We don’t even get quoted.”