Memorial Day weekend: Lower Gas Prices: Where are all the threads praising the Pres?

[Sallow]

20 pages here of arguing back and forth that either the President isn't responsible for gas prices..or had nothing to do with the price going down..or that it didn't go down.

I swear..you conservatives live in a reality all your own.

 

[rightwinger]

If you can explain why the price of oil was $140 per barrel in 08' when the price was as high as it is today and is currently $90 per barrel feel free.

Beats the shit out of me...ask the speculators

You mean oil producing nations....or the ones betting on commodities.....because the price of oil is what they speculate on, which causes the price of oil to go up.

You don't even understand all of the fees that go along with gasoline prices, do you?

Maybe you should look it up instead of waiting for some lie out of the Obama Administration. They, believe it or not, specialize in gossip, while the truth is much more complex, yet easily understood if the powers that be wanted to educate us. The media used to take care of this, but they're, at least for the moment, all in for Obama.

The fees remain constant, it is the rampant speculation that drives the price up and down

 

[mudwhistle]

Beats the shit out of me...ask the speculators

You mean oil producing nations....or the ones betting on commodities.....because the price of oil is what they speculate on, which causes the price of oil to go up.

You don't even understand all of the fees that go along with gasoline prices, do you?

Maybe you should look it up instead of waiting for some lie out of the Obama Administration. They, believe it or not, specialize in gossip, while the truth is much more complex, yet easily understood if the powers that be wanted to educate us. The media used to take care of this, but they're, at least for the moment, all in for Obama.

The fees remain constant, it is the rampant speculation that drives the price up and down

The fees vary from state to state, location to location.

The baseline price goes up and down according to the selling price. All of the extras are put there by government and anyone else who has power to attach their fees to the price at the pump. In some states they change over to a different less polluting fuel grade mandated by the state. It costs more to refine these fuel grades. They have to pass this extra charge onto the consumer or else they would go out of business. When they only make 10 cents on the dollar they have no choice.

Btw, I remember Bush and Clinton nailing Chevron for overcharging customers and forcing them to pay back the overcharge by lowering prices at the pump. When has Obama ever done this? Answer: He wasn't concerned about higher prices as much as when the prices were higher. His concern is that the price doesn't go up until after the election. After that he could care less. If were to go after them for overcharging it would be a boon to his re-election chances, but he hasn't done it. Why? Could it be because he knows it wouldn't sell this time, or is it because he has more to do with prices than he lets on.

 

[Liability]

20 pages here of arguing back and forth that either the President isn't responsible for gas prices..or had nothing to do with the price going down..or that it didn't go down.

I swear..you conservatives live in a reality all your own.

Saloow, Sallow, Sallow. It's kinda funny how you only "see" that with regard to the conservatives.

IF your eyes were able to see the entire political spectrum, though, you'd be able to see lots of libs doing the same kind of argumentation -- just on the flip side of each claim.

Libs often contend that the President deserves "credit" for taking the gas prices down recently, but he wasn't allegedly responsible at all for the crap that led to gas prices going so fucking high.

 

[Sallow]

20 pages here of arguing back and forth that either the President isn't responsible for gas prices..or had nothing to do with the price going down..or that it didn't go down.

I swear..you conservatives live in a reality all your own.

Saloow, Sallow, Sallow. It's kinda funny how you only "see" that with regard to the conservatives.

IF your eyes were able to see the entire political spectrum, though, you'd be able to see lots of libs doing the same kind of argumentation -- just on the flip side of each claim.

Libs often contend that the President deserves "credit" for taking the gas prices down recently, but he wasn't allegedly responsible at all for the crap that led to gas prices going so fucking high.

And with the exception of blaming the wars on Bush..you've never seen me map anything else to him in terms of gas prices.

Additionally..I've praised Bush for his work in Africa, helping earthquake/tsunami victims and his designating the Park near Hawaii.

 

[Katzndogz]

Left New Mexico two days ago, where the prices are amongst the lowest in the nation, and was paying in the $3.50 range and am in Fornicalia right now and the prices have never been higher.

Where are all these "low" gas prices?

Gas has gone down about 6 cents a gallon from the highest, it's not what I call "low". To get to low gas prices, you have to use liberal math. A rise of over a dollar a gallon is a modest increase, a drop of six cents is a dramatic fall.

You are right that in Cali gas is higher than ever. I was forced to put a few bucks in the tank in Beverly Hills the other day and it was $4.63. That's higher than it has ever been.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Because when they were going higher..there were sure enough of them directly blaming President Obama..

So..boys and girls?

Where is the love?

Most Americans are concerned about continued dependence on foreign oil and not measuring energy policy success on Memorial Holiday weekend temporary reprieves.

 

[Liability]

That's why Republicans were celebrating the prospect of $5 a gallon gas this summer. They were all set to hang skyrocketing prices on Obama. Now Bush and the Republicans still hold the distinction of highest gass prices

Unemployment is 8.1% and dropping, gas prices are dropping. It is going to be hard to convince voters that thing would improve under Romney

Real unemployment or the bogus number's game "numbers" foisted off on America by Team Obama?

The Republicans were losing 770,000 jobs a month when they left office.......spin that

Nothing to "spin." The Republicans didn't lose anything any more than the Democratics have "lost" anything.

Your premise is false.

The only thing a government can do is to foster the conditions that might lead to economic growth (and health) or which might lead to economic loss (or stagnation at best).

And to the extent that it's true that there is a rather pronounced lag-time between the creation of any economic policy by the government and its impact on the economy, the government is revealed to have even less ability to control such events than you claim.

 

[Buford]

Gas around here was 1.80 when Obama took over. Now it's 4.05.

Four more years and it should be around 7.00.

 

[mudwhistle]

Because when they were going higher..there were sure enough of them directly blaming President Obama..

So..boys and girls?

Where is the love?

Most Americans are concerned about continued dependence on foreign oil and not measuring energy policy success on Memorial Holiday weekend temporary reprieves.

So why in the hell isn't Obama doing anything to reduce our dependence rather than increase it?

It's obvious that Ethanol, solar, wind power, and geothermal projects aren't gonna do it. He's done everything in his power so far to increase our dependence. Force us to buy from Brazil and everywhere else. The primary threat to oil prices is conflict in the Middle East and he's supporting the rebellions over there. How does that improve our situation?

 

[The T]

Because when they were going higher..there were sure enough of them directly blaming President Obama..

So..boys and girls?

Where is the love?

Most Americans are concerned about continued dependence on foreign oil and not measuring energy policy success on Memorial Holiday weekend temporary reprieves.

So why in the hell isn't Obama doing anything to reduce our dependence rather than increase it?

It's obvious that Ethanol, solar, wind power, and geothermal projects aren't gonna do it. He's done everything in his power so far to increase our dependence. Force us to buy from Brazil and everywhere else. The primary threat to oil prices is conflict in the Middle East and he's supporting the rebellions over there. How does that improve our situation?

It doesn't as long as dependence/control over the people is maintained...which is his goal. Get us used to the 'New Standard'...you know? CHANGE YOU CAN BELIVE IN.

Now that he's wrecked things? Now it's FOWARD...or is that 'CONTINUE'?

 

[Sallow]

Because when they were going higher..there were sure enough of them directly blaming President Obama..

So..boys and girls?

Where is the love?

Most Americans are concerned about continued dependence on foreign oil and not measuring energy policy success on Memorial Holiday weekend temporary reprieves.

So why in the hell isn't Obama doing anything to reduce our dependence rather than increase it?

It's obvious that Ethanol, solar, wind power, and geothermal projects aren't gonna do it. He's done everything in his power so far to increase our dependence. Force us to buy from Brazil and everywhere else. The primary threat to oil prices is conflict in the Middle East and he's supporting the rebellions over there. How does that improve our situation?

Perhaps you were asleep for the last 3 or so years.

Obama hasn't been able to get anything through congress since 2010. Before that it was a heavy lift.

 

[Katzndogz]

Most Americans are concerned about continued dependence on foreign oil and not measuring energy policy success on Memorial Holiday weekend temporary reprieves.

So why in the hell isn't Obama doing anything to reduce our dependence rather than increase it?

It's obvious that Ethanol, solar, wind power, and geothermal projects aren't gonna do it. He's done everything in his power so far to increase our dependence. Force us to buy from Brazil and everywhere else. The primary threat to oil prices is conflict in the Middle East and he's supporting the rebellions over there. How does that improve our situation?

Perhaps you were asleep for the last 3 or so years.

Obama hasn't been able to get anything through congress since 2010. Before that it was a heavy lift.

It's a good think obama has all those executive edicts isn't it. Without those he wouldn't have been able to destroy nearly as much as he has.

 

[Liability]

Most Americans are concerned about continued dependence on foreign oil and not measuring energy policy success on Memorial Holiday weekend temporary reprieves.

So why in the hell isn't Obama doing anything to reduce our dependence rather than increase it?

It's obvious that Ethanol, solar, wind power, and geothermal projects aren't gonna do it. He's done everything in his power so far to increase our dependence. Force us to buy from Brazil and everywhere else. The primary threat to oil prices is conflict in the Middle East and he's supporting the rebellions over there. How does that improve our situation?

Perhaps you were asleep for the last 3 or so years.

Obama hasn't been able to get anything through congress since 2010. Before that it was a heavy lift.

He wouldn't need to go through Congress to sign off on the Keystone plan.

But still, nothing from The ONE.

 

[Sallow]

So why in the hell isn't Obama doing anything to reduce our dependence rather than increase it?

It's obvious that Ethanol, solar, wind power, and geothermal projects aren't gonna do it. He's done everything in his power so far to increase our dependence. Force us to buy from Brazil and everywhere else. The primary threat to oil prices is conflict in the Middle East and he's supporting the rebellions over there. How does that improve our situation?

Perhaps you were asleep for the last 3 or so years.

Obama hasn't been able to get anything through congress since 2010. Before that it was a heavy lift.

He wouldn't need to go through Congress to sign off on the Keystone plan.

But still, nothing from The ONE.

Tell that to the states that are arguing against the plan.

Oh wait..you guys are into state's rights..until you are not.



In any case..Keystone is like some kind of fairy tale.

There's nothing in the bill that compels oil companies to sell the oil to America.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

What do the charts and graphs say about the 70 bucks I put in my tank yesterday?

 

[The T]

So why in the hell isn't Obama doing anything to reduce our dependence rather than increase it?

It's obvious that Ethanol, solar, wind power, and geothermal projects aren't gonna do it. He's done everything in his power so far to increase our dependence. Force us to buy from Brazil and everywhere else. The primary threat to oil prices is conflict in the Middle East and he's supporting the rebellions over there. How does that improve our situation?

Perhaps you were asleep for the last 3 or so years.

Obama hasn't been able to get anything through congress since 2010. Before that it was a heavy lift.

He wouldn't need to go through Congress to sign off on the Keystone plan.

But still, nothing from The ONE.

Will he "throw in the towel" at the eleventh hour when his campaign is going poorly in a gesture of manipulation?

 

[Sallow]

So why in the hell isn't Obama doing anything to reduce our dependence rather than increase it?

It's obvious that Ethanol, solar, wind power, and geothermal projects aren't gonna do it. He's done everything in his power so far to increase our dependence. Force us to buy from Brazil and everywhere else. The primary threat to oil prices is conflict in the Middle East and he's supporting the rebellions over there. How does that improve our situation?

Perhaps you were asleep for the last 3 or so years.

Obama hasn't been able to get anything through congress since 2010. Before that it was a heavy lift.

It's a good think obama has all those executive edicts isn't it. Without those he wouldn't have been able to destroy nearly as much as he has.

He's not nearly the "Unitary Executive" Bush was..

Seriously..I kinda wish he was. But he's process oriented. Which is much more 'conservative' then the guy before him.

 

[Sallow]

Perhaps you were asleep for the last 3 or so years.

Obama hasn't been able to get anything through congress since 2010. Before that it was a heavy lift.

He wouldn't need to go through Congress to sign off on the Keystone plan.

But still, nothing from The ONE.

Will he "throw in the towel" at the eleventh hour when his campaign is going poorly in a gesture of manipulation?

He "threw in the towel" when he extended the Bush tax cuts..with very little in return.

Possibly one of the worst deals ever..it bought nothing.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

What do the charts and graphs say about the 70 bucks I put in my tank yesterday?