Men in women's bathrooms

[Slade3200]

Appreciate the honesty, but it goes to my point that you just don't understand what the other sides POV is

What's to understand? There are a tiny population of mentally-ill people—approximately 1/5 of 1%of the population as a whole—who claim to be what, as a matter of hard scientific fact, they are not, and who demand that society overturn deeply-established social conventions and standards of decency, in order to cater to their delusions.

There is no rational reason why anyone should give any credence to their demands, and plenty of good reason against doing so.

“Your ‘reality’, sir, is lies and balderdash, and I'm delighted to say that I have no grasp of it whatsoever!”—Baron Munchausen​

It's not about giving into the demands of a fraction of people as you say. There is a bigger picture which is why so many non transgenders sympathize and support the cause. It's the reason why the president, the DOJ, and not preside tap front runners support the cause. It's about freedom of choice, freedom of expression, and accepting people who are different. I'm not transgender, I'm not gay, I actually don't even feel completely comfortable around them, the whole situation is pretty awkward to me. But I'm learning and growing and I believe in the principles stated above. I'm not about telling others what to do and how to feel. I can respect the fact that other people live a different reality and trying to opress them and call them sick and perverted only feeds the problem.

 

[Silhouette]

It's about freedom of choice, freedom of expression, and accepting people who are different.

And freedom for 17 million women rape survivors to draw a clear line right before the door marked "women". Someone's rights to "freedom of expression" end when they impinge in a real and tangible way on others' rights.

In a famous case for its time, New York vs Ferber said that even first Amendment rights to freedom of speech have limitations when they infringe upon the physical or psychological well being of others. In that case, a litigant was demanding that his "right" to publish child pornography was firm and established. The USSC said differently in 1982. They said if a person's constitutional right harmed a child either physically or psychologically, that person may not exercise that right.

A man in the showers next to a woman rape survivor, or any other woman for that matter, would alarm or startle her or shrink back her own liberty to feel at ease using segregated hygiene chambers marked "women" on the door, is an impinging upon the psychological (and we all know as well, the physical...rapes will occur using this loophole) well being of other Americans.

Men aren't women, and therefore, cannot use chambers behind doors marked "women" outside. Period.

You've lost. Move on..

 

[Jack4jill]

It's about freedom of choice, freedom of expression, and accepting people who are different.

And freedom for 17 million women rape survivors to draw a clear line right before the door marked "women". Someone's rights to "freedom of expression" end when they impinge in a real and tangible way on others' rights.

You've lost. Move on..

Stop treating women like children, just because you are a child.

Rape victims aren't afraid of penises, just men who use them as weapons.

In world does a boy raped by a man, we have many, panic each time a man pees next to him?

 

[Silhouette]

Rape victims aren't afraid of penises, just men who use them as weapons.

In world does a boy raped by a man, we have many, panic each time a man pees next to him?

We'll let the people who treat rape survivors testify to these questions in Court. Fair enough?

Start grieving now. It'll help ease the pain when you lose this one.

 

[Jack4jill]

Rape victims aren't afraid of penises, just men who use them as weapons.

In world does a boy raped by a man, we have many, panic each time a man pees next to him?

We'll let the people who treat rape survivors testify to these questions in Court. Fair enough?

Start grieving now. It'll help ease the pain when you lose this one.

We don't make laws based on that but they are welcome to have their say. Unlike you, they aren't mental children.

 

[Slade3200]

Appreciate the honesty, but it goes to my point that you just don't understand what the other sides POV is

What's to understand? There are a tiny population of mentally-ill people—approximately 1/5 of 1%of the population as a whole—who claim to be what, as a matter of hard scientific fact, they are not, and who demand that society overturn deeply-established social conventions and standards of decency, in order to cater to their delusions.

There is no rational reason why anyone should give any credence to their demands, and plenty of good reason against doing so.

“Your ‘reality’, sir, is lies and balderdash, and I'm delighted to say that I have no grasp of it whatsoever!”—Baron Munchausen​

It's not about giving into the demands of a fraction of people as you say. There is a bigger picture which is why so many non transgenders sympathize and support the cause. It's the reason why the president, the DOJ, and not preside tap front runners support the cause. It's about freedom of choice, freedom of expression, and accepting people who are different. I'm not transgender, I'm not gay, I actually don't even feel completely comfortable around them, the whole situation is pretty awkward to me. But I'm learning and growing and I believe in the principles stated above. I'm not about telling others what to do and how to feel. I can respect the fact that other people live a different reality and trying to opress them and call them sick and perverted only feeds the problem.

250 women's rape and abuse groups disagree with you... I'm gong to keep posting this link if you're gonna keep spouting this 17million stat. Stop politicizing
Sexual Abuse Survivors Want Conservative Politicians To Knock It Off With 'Bathroom Predator' Myth

 

[Ame®icano]

Stop treating women like children, just because you are a child.

Rape victims aren't afraid of penises, just men who use them as weapons.

In world does a boy raped by a man, we have many, panic each time a man pees next to him?

Would you say those are assault weapons or just weapons?

What, it's time to ban penises now?

 

[Jack4jill]

Stop treating women like children, just because you are a child.

Rape victims aren't afraid of penises, just men who use them as weapons.

In world does a boy raped by a man, we have many, panic each time a man pees next to him?

Would you say those are assault weapons or just weapons?

What, it's time to ban penises now?

I've heard much worse ideas.

 

[Ame®icano]

I run into this feminist commercial and noticed they're saying... "real women".

What do they really mean with that?

 

[Jack4jill]

I run into this feminist commercial and noticed they're saying... "real women".

What do they really mean with that?

They mean, a real woman, not a man's idea of a real woman.

The kind that used to be able to drop a baby in the field, and then keep working.

They don't wonder the earth looking like this.

 

[Ame®icano]

I run into this feminist commercial and noticed they're saying... "real women".

What do they really mean with that?

They mean, a real woman, not a man's idea of a real woman.

The kind that used to be able to drop a baby in the field, and then keep working.

They don't wonder the earth looking like this.

Suppose looking like "this" is bad. I wouldn't mind seeing more of "this" instead of... you know.

When man see other ideal man, they aspire to be like that man. We won't cry that looking like James Bond is a bad thing. When feminist woman sees another ideal women, she claims that ideal is not real and that's not what men wants and they are some kind of crazy obsessed person that hate themselves.

I know I'm bit off topic. I'm just wondering why there are no transgender women in that video claiming to be "real".

 

[Jack4jill]

I run into this feminist commercial and noticed they're saying... "real women".

What do they really mean with that?

They mean, a real woman, not a man's idea of a real woman.

The kind that used to be able to drop a baby in the field, and then keep working.

They don't wonder the earth looking like this.

Suppose looking like "this" is bad. I wouldn't mind seeing more of "this" instead of... you know.

When man see other ideal man, they aspire to be like that man. We won't cry that looking like James Bond is a bad thing. When feminist woman sees another ideal women, she claims that ideal is not real and that's not what men wants and they are some kind of crazy obsessed person that hate themselves.

I know I'm bit off topic. I'm just wondering why there are no transgender women in that video claiming to be "real".

How do you know? Right, you don't.

And the notion that there is an ideal woman or man, that's the problem in a nutshell.

 

[Silhouette]

Any video I've seen of "transgenders" and their supporters comes off like a carnival side show trying to pretend it is a legitimate parade of human rights. It's just embarrassingly insane in a very obtuse way.

So, Jack4jill needs to start the acceptance process. 17 million rape survivors' voices will not be silenced by the Church of LGBT's latest sideshow demands of a few deranged men.

 

[Slade3200]

Any video I've seen of "transgenders" and their supporters comes off like a carnival side show trying to pretend it is a legitimate parade of human rights. It's just embarrassingly insane in a very obtuse way.

So, Jack4jill needs to start the acceptance process. 17 million rape survivors' voices will not be silenced by the Church of LGBT's latest sideshow demands of a few deranged men.

Sexual Abuse Survivors Want Conservative Politicians To Knock It Off With 'Bathroom Predator' Myth

 

[Jack4jill]

Any video I've seen of "transgenders" and their supporters comes off like a carnival side show trying to pretend it is a legitimate parade of human rights. It's just embarrassingly insane in a very obtuse way.

So, Jack4jill needs to start the acceptance process. 17 million rape survivors' voices will not be silenced by the Church of LGBT's latest sideshow demands of a few deranged men.

 

[Jack4jill]

 

[Jack4jill]

Any video I've seen of "transgenders" and their supporters comes off like a carnival side show trying to pretend it is a legitimate parade of human rights. It's just embarrassingly insane in a very obtuse way.

So, Jack4jill needs to start the acceptance process. 17 million rape survivors' voices will not be silenced by the Church of LGBT's latest sideshow demands of a few deranged men.

Sexual Abuse Survivors Want Conservative Politicians To Knock It Off With 'Bathroom Predator' Myth

“Those who are pushing these proposals have claimed that these proposals are necessary for public safety and to prevent sexual violence against women and children,” reads a statement the groups released on Thursday. “As rape crisis centers, shelters, and other service providers who work each and every day to meet the needs of all survivors and reduce sexual assault and domestic violence throughout society, we speak from experience and expertise when we state that these claims are false.”

 

[Silhouette]

Good for you, you found a tiny segment of the population to speak for your cause. Now for the other 17 million who won't.. Rape is real buddy. And so is the mental trauma that lingers for decades after.

 

[Jack4jill]

Good for you, you found a tiny segment of the population to speak for your cause. Now for the other 17 million who won't.. Rape is real buddy. And so is the mental trauma that lingers for decades after.

“Those who are pushing these proposals have claimed that these proposals are necessary for public safety and to prevent sexual violence against women and children,” reads a statement the groups released on Thursday. “As rape crisis centers, shelters, and other service providers who work each and every day to meet the needs of all survivors and reduce sexual assault and domestic violence throughout society, we speak from experience and expertise when we state that these claims are false.”

 

[Ame®icano]