Men in women's bathrooms

[HappyJoy]

"states rights is the law" is like saying "plants are edible". Maybe, but let's be more specific. In the case of slavery, no sir, states rights are not the law. Are you arguing otherwise?

No - because the U.S. Constitution was legally amended to outlaw slavery. Which is completely inline with the 10th Amendment.

Today you could repeal the 13th amendment and 'states rights' wouldn't make slavery legal.

 

[HappyJoy]

Nope, didn't bash the Constitution once, you're a liar.

Uh...that's exactly what you did when you show contempt for any part of it (like the 10th Amendment).

Oh, what did I say about the 10th? You going to point at it and say the states can do anything they want?

 

[P@triot]

Homosexuality is something worth promoting and celebrating as much as straight sex is.

Uh...no it's not. It's an anomaly. It's like saying "people with 12 fingers are worth promoting and celebrating" or "cancer in children is worth promoting and celebrating". You don't promote or celebrate that which should not be.

Tolerate it? Yes. Accept it? Yes. Deal with it? Yes. Celebrate and promote it? Oh hell no.

 

[HappyJoy]

Homosexuality is something worth promoting and celebrating as much as straight sex is.

Uh...no it's not. It's an anomaly. It's like saying "people with 12 fingers are worth promoting and celebrating" or "cancer in children is worth promoting and celebrating". You don't promote or celebrate that which should not be.

Tolerate it? Yes. Accept it? Yes. Deal with it? Yes. Celebrate and promote it? Oh hell no.

We're not talking about 12 fingers or Cancer, are we?

 

[P@triot]

Today you could repeal the 13th amendment and 'states rights' wouldn't make slavery legal.

But they would have the legal authority to do so. Any power not explicitly delegated to the federal government by the states is reserved to the states and the people. So what is your point with that odd statement?

 

[HappyJoy]

Today you could repeal the 13th amendment and 'states rights' wouldn't make slavery legal.

But they would have the legal authority to do so. Any power not explicitly delegated to the federal government by the states is reserved to the states and the people. So what is your point with that odd statement?

So, what you are saying is that you agree that the South had the right to keep slaves and the Union was breaking the law?

 

[P@triot]

We're not talking about 12 fingers or Cancer, are we?

That's exactly what we are talking about. Homosexuality is an anomaly. That doesn't mean homosexuals should be beaten, attacked, tormented. But you sure as hell don't promote and celebrate it.

 

[P@triot]

So, what you are saying is that you agree that the South had the right to keep slaves and the Union was breaking the law?

No - because the U.S. Constitution was legally amended.

 

[HappyJoy]

We're not talking about 12 fingers or Cancer, are we?

That's exactly what we are talking about. Homosexuality is an anomaly. That doesn't mean homosexuals should be beaten, attacked, tormented. But you sure as hell don't promote and celebrate it.

Why not, if they feel like celebrating? I mean, they've had to put up with ignorant morons for decades.

 

[P@triot]

Oh, what did I say about the 10th? You going to point at it and say the states can do anything they want?

Pretty much. Anything outside of the federal government's 18 enumerated powers. The people of each state can decide for themselves how they want their state to operate.

 

[P@triot]

We're not talking about 12 fingers or Cancer, are we?

That's exactly what we are talking about. Homosexuality is an anomaly. That doesn't mean homosexuals should be beaten, attacked, tormented. But you sure as hell don't promote and celebrate it.

Why not?

I just told you why. It is an anomaly.

 

[HappyJoy]

So, what you are saying is that you agree that the South had the right to keep slaves and the Union was breaking the law?

No - because the U.S. Constitution was legally amended.

Yeah, the war was practically over by then. So, do you agree that the South had a right to slavery before the 13th amendment?

Do you think the emancipation proclamation was legal?

 

[P@triot]

Why not, if they feel like celebrating? I mean, they've had to put up with ignorant morons for decades.

And why have they had to "put up with" anything? Because it is an anomaly. It is abnormal. It is weird. It is not natural. It is not normal.

 

[HappyJoy]

Oh, what did I say about the 10th? You going to point at it and say the states can do anything they want?

Pretty much. Anything outside of the federal government's 18 enumerated powers. The people of each state can decide for themselves how they want their state to operate.

Ok, and?

 

[HappyJoy]

We're not talking about 12 fingers or Cancer, are we?

That's exactly what we are talking about. Homosexuality is an anomaly. That doesn't mean homosexuals should be beaten, attacked, tormented. But you sure as hell don't promote and celebrate it.

Why not?

I just told you why. It is an anomaly.

No, you didn't and if you're going to cut off 90% of my post then don't bother quoting me at all.

 

[P@triot]

So, what you are saying is that you agree that the South had the right to keep slaves and the Union was breaking the law?

No - because the U.S. Constitution was legally amended.

Yeah, the war was practically over by then. So, do you agree that the South had a right to slavery before the 13th amendment?

Well....yes and no. If anyone was "imported" from Africa - yes. For any slave born in the U.S. - no (because they were U.S. citizens and thus entitled to all rights and freedoms afforded to all U.S. citizens).

 

[P@triot]

Oh, what did I say about the 10th? You going to point at it and say the states can do anything they want?

Pretty much. Anything outside of the federal government's 18 enumerated powers. The people of each state can decide for themselves how they want their state to operate.

Ok, and?

And the U.S. Constitution trumps your progressivism.

 

[HappyJoy]

So, what you are saying is that you agree that the South had the right to keep slaves and the Union was breaking the law?

No - because the U.S. Constitution was legally amended.

Yeah, the war was practically over by then. So, do you agree that the South had a right to slavery before the 13th amendment?

Well....yes and no. If anyone was "imported" from Africa - yes. For any slave born in the U.S. - no (because they were U.S. citizens and thus entitled to all rights and freedoms afforded to all U.S. citizens).

You repeal the 13th and it would still be illegal to own non-citizens.

Was the emancipation proclamation illegal? Did the Union forces have the right to take territory in the South?

 

[HappyJoy]

Oh, what did I say about the 10th? You going to point at it and say the states can do anything they want?

Pretty much. Anything outside of the federal government's 18 enumerated powers. The people of each state can decide for themselves how they want their state to operate.

Ok, and?

And the U.S. Constitution trumps your progressivism.

So far it hasn't.

 

[P@triot]

And the U.S. Constitution trumps your progressivism.

So far it hasn't.

Want to bet? It's trumped it every time.