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Michele Bachmann: Gay community wants to let adults "prey on little children sexually

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Jesus said all men should marry a woman, but he himself never married, so he obviously didn't consider man/woman marriage an obligation.

And since we have no evidence he ever expressed an opinion on same sex marriage, no one can cite a teaching of Jesus that can be used either for or against same sex marriage.

Good grief.. Doesn't get more clearer than this

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:13

Leviticus was written centuries before Jesus was born, genius.

Rules in the Old Testament were not changed with the birth of Jesus.

Matthew 5:17"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18"For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.…
 
WOW the far left shows that they are the one and true bigots and sexists on the planet.

They truly hate anyone that wanders off the far left religious path.

Homsexuality is not condemned in the New Testament. There is not even one verse, not even one, that directly refers to men sleeping with men or women sleeping with women. And Jesus is not quoted even once on the subject.

There are, however, two verses in the Old Testament that describe two homosexual acts as abominations. But why should that interest Christians who hardly know nor care about a single verse from the OT, except of course, when it comes to hating gays? Hmmm?

Wrong. Romans first chapter and First Corinthians 6:9-10.

Which has nothing to do with loving, consenting adult gays and lesbians.

Never read it have you?

Romans 1:24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

1 Corinthians 6:9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

It has everything to do with adult gays and lesbians, along with many others who think themselves righteous.
 
".....neither fornicators.....shall inherit the kingdom of God"

Well, as I understand the definition of that word, I think that pretty much 98% of the world is already disinherited from the kingdom of god, so what's the big deal about singling out gays? I think that I might know 2 people who never had sex with anyone but their wife, including the time before they married.
 
Jesus Christ said marriage is a man and woman. Was Jesus ignorant, ill informed, and stupid?

That is the opinion of one man who lived 2000 years ago.

And when he said it, he was actually condemning divorce. He was being the original feminist telling men that they can't just cast women aside.

Again you show, you have never read or understood the Bible, or you just twist it to fit your needs.

Matthew 19: 3The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause? 4And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, 5And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? 6Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

7They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? 8He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. 9And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

10His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry. 11But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given. 12For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

If you have questions, let me know.

The bolded part is addressing men who cannot control their sinful urges. Those who cannot be satisfied by being with a single woman, those who have urges to molest children, and yes, those who have urges to be with other men(homosexuals).

There are many men, who have had themselves chemically castrated, to keep control of themselves, this does not make them more sinful, it actually gives them the will power to become less sinful. It goes hand in hand with the verse,

Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

This is repeated in the Gospels, here addressing adultery.
Matthew 5:…29"If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30"If your right hand makes you stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to go into hell.

Here addressing all temptations, and yes, acts of homosexuality is a temptation.
Matthew 18:7"Woe to the world because of its stumbling blocks! For it is inevitable that stumbling blocks come; but woe to that man through whom the stumbling block comes! 8"If your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; it is better for you to enter life crippled or lame, than to have two hands or two feet and be cast into the eternal fire. 9"If your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it from you. It is better for you to enter life with one eye, than to have two eyes and be cast into the fiery hell.

If yall want to keep bringing up the Bible, I will keep posting what it truly says, and I will quote from it, not just talk about what I think It says.
 
Jesus is the Old Testament God the father, who doesn't feel inclined to repeat himself (New Testament).
There were lots of child brides in the Old Testament times, right?

Homosexuality was also widespread and accepted.

Again, you are wrong. At least half so, for it was widespread, but it was never accepted by God.

Genesis 19:5And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them. 6And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, 7And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. 8Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

The men of Sodom wanted to have sex with the angels which came to visit Lot, God destroyed Sodom because of this.
 
There are several reasons why you would say this.

A. You are forgetful
B. You are stupid
C. You are just making stuff up, because you have no real argument.
D. All of the above.

On page 10, I quoted such a verse from the New Testament, and you even replied to it. So I vote D.

1 Timothy 1:…9realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers 10and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching,

No.

1 Timothy 1: 9-10

9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

KJV


It should also be noted that the term "Homosexuality" was created in 1869. I do believe that the New Testament was written well before then.


So, you take a newer translation of the NT, one that fits your purposes, and then you try to use it in this way.

BTW, nice attempt to insult, it will not work with me. It just makes you look weak.

Think about it.

Them that defile themselves with mankind = homosexual.

Subjective religious dogma = irrelevant.
 
There were lots of child brides in the Old Testament times, right?

Homosexuality was also widespread and accepted.

Again, you are wrong. At least half so, for it was widespread, but it was never accepted by God.

Genesis 19:5And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them. 6And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, 7And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. 8Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

The men of Sodom wanted to have sex with the angels which came to visit Lot, God destroyed Sodom because of this.
God is gay, he kicked Adam out of homo Eden for banging the chick. How gay is that?
 
Homosexuality was also widespread and accepted.

Again, you are wrong. At least half so, for it was widespread, but it was never accepted by God.

Genesis 19:5And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them. 6And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, 7And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. 8Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

The men of Sodom wanted to have sex with the angels which came to visit Lot, God destroyed Sodom because of this.
God is gay, he kicked Adam out of homo Eden for banging the chick. How gay is that?

What's the matter? Does the truth hurt? You have nothing left but this witty comeback? I'm sure if you look hard enough, you can find something in some other so called 'religious' book, that says 'homosexuality' is ok. Problem is the One True God from the Bible, does not say that, and that bothers you, doesn't it?

Are you confused? I will be happy to have a private chat with you. Many men, who consider themselves homosexual, have forsaken that path, and chose abstinence, so they can try to live the kind of life that pleases God. There is nothing wrong with that.
 
What the hell planet are these people hatched on?

Representative Michele Bachmann (R-MN) said this week that the gay community wants to repeal age of consent laws "so that adults would be able to freely prey on little children sexually," reports Brian Tashman of Right Wing Watch.

Bachmann, who is not running for re-election to her House seat, made the comments Wednesday on a conservative talk radio show, Faith & Liberty. The former presidential candidate argued that while the gay community's "big push" is currently on transgender issues, they'd soon expand to a push for "multiple marriages," and then "to do away with statutory rape laws."

Michele Bachmann: Gay community wants to let adults "prey on little children sexually" - Vox

Just because her gay husband has the urges doesn't mean all gay people feel the same.
 
That is the opinion of one man who lived 2000 years ago.

And when he said it, he was actually condemning divorce. He was being the original feminist telling men that they can't just cast women aside.

Again you show, you have never read or understood the Bible, or you just twist it to fit your needs.

Matthew 19: 3The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause? 4And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, 5And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? 6Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

7They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? 8He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. 9And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

10His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry. 11But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given. 12For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

If you have questions, let me know.

The bolded part is addressing men who cannot control their sinful urges. Those who cannot be satisfied by being with a single woman, those who have urges to molest children, and yes, those who have urges to be with other men(homosexuals).

There are many men, who have had themselves chemically castrated, to keep control of themselves, this does not make them more sinful, it actually gives them the will power to become less sinful. It goes hand in hand with the verse,

Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

This is repeated in the Gospels, here addressing adultery.
Matthew 5:…29"If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30"If your right hand makes you stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to go into hell.

Here addressing all temptations, and yes, acts of homosexuality is a temptation.
Matthew 18:7"Woe to the world because of its stumbling blocks! For it is inevitable that stumbling blocks come; but woe to that man through whom the stumbling block comes! 8"If your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; it is better for you to enter life crippled or lame, than to have two hands or two feet and be cast into the eternal fire. 9"If your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it from you. It is better for you to enter life with one eye, than to have two eyes and be cast into the fiery hell.

If yall want to keep bringing up the Bible, I will keep posting what it truly says, and I will quote from it, not just talk about what I think It says.

Since that wasn't the passage that was being referred to when I responded, you're the one that needs to re-read the bible, Amigo. Read the thread. When Jesus was talking about marriage being between one man and one woman he was actually talking about divorce. Jesus never said a fucking thing about gays, that was the sexually repressed Paul (who was likely a closeted gay man).
 
There were lots of child brides in the Old Testament times, right?

Homosexuality was also widespread and accepted.

Again, you are wrong. At least half so, for it was widespread, but it was never accepted by God.

Genesis 19:5And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them. 6And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, 7And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. 8Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

The men of Sodom wanted to have sex with the angels which came to visit Lot, God destroyed Sodom because of this.

So you really think Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed because of gays? :lol:

It was because they wanted to RAPE angels. Rape is not loving, consensual sex (hope you learn that before you get into trouble)

And the angels were there in the first place because those towns had forsaken god. They were not hospitable to strangers and they worshiped gods other than him.

Here's the story: God gets pissed 'cause he's the jealous type, sends his angels down. Angry mob arrives to RAPE the angels so Lott, fucking hero he is, sends his teen daughters out to be raped by the mob instead. When that doesn't work, he runs off into the hills and fucks his daughters and somehow gays get the bad rap out of this fucking STORY?!?

Puhleese.
 
And when he said it, he was actually condemning divorce. He was being the original feminist telling men that they can't just cast women aside.

Again you show, you have never read or understood the Bible, or you just twist it to fit your needs.

Matthew 19: 3The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause? 4And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, 5And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? 6Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

7They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? 8He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. 9And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

10His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry. 11But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given. 12For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

If you have questions, let me know.

The bolded part is addressing men who cannot control their sinful urges. Those who cannot be satisfied by being with a single woman, those who have urges to molest children, and yes, those who have urges to be with other men(homosexuals).

There are many men, who have had themselves chemically castrated, to keep control of themselves, this does not make them more sinful, it actually gives them the will power to become less sinful. It goes hand in hand with the verse,

Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

This is repeated in the Gospels, here addressing adultery.
Matthew 5:…29"If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30"If your right hand makes you stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to go into hell.

Here addressing all temptations, and yes, acts of homosexuality is a temptation.
Matthew 18:7"Woe to the world because of its stumbling blocks! For it is inevitable that stumbling blocks come; but woe to that man through whom the stumbling block comes! 8"If your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; it is better for you to enter life crippled or lame, than to have two hands or two feet and be cast into the eternal fire. 9"If your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it from you. It is better for you to enter life with one eye, than to have two eyes and be cast into the fiery hell.

If yall want to keep bringing up the Bible, I will keep posting what it truly says, and I will quote from it, not just talk about what I think It says.

Since that wasn't the passage that was being referred to when I responded, you're the one that needs to re-read the bible, Amigo. Read the thread. When Jesus was talking about marriage being between one man and one woman he was actually talking about divorce.

Keep making it up as you go. Everyone knows this is the passage you are referring to, if there is another, please post it. We both know you won't, because this is it.
 
Homosexuality was also widespread and accepted.

Again, you are wrong. At least half so, for it was widespread, but it was never accepted by God.

Genesis 19:5And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them. 6And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, 7And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. 8Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

The men of Sodom wanted to have sex with the angels which came to visit Lot, God destroyed Sodom because of this.

So you really think Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed because of gays? :lol:

It was because they wanted to RAPE angels. Rape is not loving, consensual sex (hope you learn that before you get into trouble)

And the angels were there in the first place because those towns had forsaken god. They were not hospitable to strangers and they worshiped gods other than him.

Here's the story: God gets pissed 'cause he's the jealous type, sends his angels down. Angry mob arrives to RAPE the angels so Lott, fucking hero he is, sends his teen daughters out to be raped by the mob instead. When that doesn't work, he runs off into the hills and fucks his daughters and somehow gays get the bad rap out of this fucking STORY?!?

Puhleese.

No one is going to believe your "version" of the story. Use the Bible for the truth.

I already used Genesis, let's try Jude, from the New Testament.

Jude 1:7just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire.

NLT- And don't forget Sodom and Gomorrah and their neighboring towns, which were filled with immorality and every kind of sexual perversion. Those cities were destroyed by fire and serve as a warning of the eternal fire of God's judgment.

HCSB-In the same way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them committed sexual immorality and practiced perversions, just as angels did, and serve as an example by undergoing the punishment of eternal fire.


GWT-What happened to Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities near them is an example for us of the punishment of eternal fire. The people of these cities suffered the same fate that God's people and the angels did, because they committed sexual sins and engaged in homosexual activities.


Pure and simple. Like it or not. Homosexual acts are an abomination before God.

If not, then use the Bible, and prove me wrong. :lol:We both know you can't
 
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