Mike Pence breaks with Trump: tells Americans to wear a mask

[Dragonlady]

If I wear one or not is my choice, not your's, not the government's.

Until then, fuck off.

If you do not want to wear opne that is fine but do not expect entrance where ever you go. Buisness owners and private citizens have the right to ask you have one for entry. I do not require it on my boat. I am o neg blood and according to data very rare for o neg to get the virus and I have not had the flu since 1983 so IO do not reqire it. My six packs are typically of people who are together alll the time so they will infect each other anyways. If the health department tells me thats the only way I can run then I will require them till then I am fishing all day with out one.

I live way out in a tiny little town in nowhere country in SW WI, and I have everything I need right here, and no businesses around here are asking anyone to wear a mask. In fact, I rarely see anyone wearing a mask period. There's lots of scientific evidence floating around that show masks are not going stop the spread of the virus. You can believe they will if you like, and I can believe they won't. That's called freedom of choice.

I'm also O negative. We're called the "universal donor" because we can give blood to anyone, but when it comes to us, we need O negative.

My understanding of it is that the masks will reduce spread indoors better than out doors. as long as spttle does not get on you out doors uv rays will kill what hits surfaces. I do not think we need all the restrictions we have to defeat this disease. We just need to seperate the at risk people right now, the rest of us do not have a bad time with it. In the long run herd immunitiy would be best. If we can [revent the at risk people from getting it until we have herd immunity and maybe better ways of treating it we would be better off in the long run. This is my understabding how ever this is a new thing and the reality of things are that it takes a while of testing before we truely understand these things.

The at risks people that Governor Cujo killed by putting Kung Flu virus infected people amongst them? That darling on New York, the butcher of the elderly?

Here you are, you free thinking man, parrotting the igorance and lies of the FOX News talking points while calling Democrats "sheeple" for "not thinking for themselves".

Nursing home patients have long term care needs that cannot be met in hospitals. That's WHY these people are in nursing homes, and not in hospital in the first place. Nursing home patients die at a much faster rate in hospital because hospitals are not equipped to meet their care needs. They don't have staff to feed them, change them, bathe them, or tend to their personal care needs. Their FAMILIES are unable to look after these patients, and have placed them in care.

Nursing homes are basically very long term hospice facilities. Our county home has 3 levels of care - one is independent living - 1 bedroom geared to income apartments, with access to the dining room, foot care, the recreational facilities. Assisted living: large, private "batchelor suites" with no kitchen facilities

Finally there is full on care - where patients can no longer care for themselves. This is a essentially - a hospital you never leave. This wing of the facility is SUPPOSED to have an isolation unit, with reverse air pressure so no germs escape its walls. Where staff with sufficient PPE to keep people safe, can care for them.

But these units stay empty when not needed, so they weren't stocked, or staffed, or prepared to receive these patients. THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN.

CUOMO SHOULD HAVE SENT THESE PEOPLE BACK TO THEIR NURSING HOMES TO RECEIVE PROPER CARE. IT'S THE FAILURE OF THE NURSING HOMES - NEARLY ALL OF THEM BEING "FOR PROFIT" HOMES, TO KEEP THEIR PATIENTS SAFE.

THE NURSING HOME "INDUSTRY", ITS STAFFING PRACTICES, AND THE LAWS, REGULATIONS, AND ENFORCEMENT OF THEM WHICH LEAD TO THESE DEATHS IS A NATIONAL DISGRACE - NOT JUST IN NEW YORK.

But by all means continue to spout the Billionaire Media narrative Jim, and continue to prove what a dupe you are to the corporate liars and thieves who continue to enrich themselves in this pandemic. I mean it's only old people and blacks that it's killing right. You're completely safe.

You're body isn't compromised by your smoking is it, Jim? Are you fat? Do you have diabetes? Kidney disease? Are you over 60?

At this point, the best thing you have going for you is that you're such a miserable old asshole that nobody wants to be around you anyway, so you're probably safe for now.

 

[pknopp]

I don't understand why there must be a "side" to this. If I'm around people not wearing one and comfortable with that, then I don't. If I'm around people that are uncomfortable around people without masks I'll wear one.

It's not a big deal.

It is a big deal, and you should be wearing one ALL of the time when with other people outside your group. Especially around people who don't wear one, because they're more likely to be infected.

I am not going to put one on. I won't take the Vax either.

Good for you. Nobody is going to tell YOU what to do. We're not the boss of YOU.

Do you also refuse to wear a seat belt when driving? Did you wear a condom during the AIDS epidemic, or go bareback? Do you insist on your kids wearing bike helmets?

If you answered "Yes" to any of the above, why are masks and a vaccine the hill you're literally prepared to die on here? I say this in all seriousness. Why is wearing a mask suddenly this bridge too far for conservatives?

How is common sense guidance from the scientific community suddenly a political statement, and why, in God's name are you prepared to follow the guy who hasn't been right about a single thing he's done since the start of this pandemic?

Just stop LOL. ALL Progs EVER do is try to force EVERYONE to do as they want them too so spare me your lies. Get off the "Science" trash, if you believed in "science" you would admit there is male and female. Just. Two.
Fauci, Birx, the WHO and the CDC have been wrong at every turn. Wear your mask, ake the Vax but stay out of my life.
Why is it your body when you want to kill babies but not my body when I tell you to EFF off?

Argument goes both ways. With abortion you will argue that it's not just your body. Those who promote mask usage will argue the same. While I posted the example of why science isn't always science, there is zero question concerning that fact that a mask would most certainly help stop the spread to others.

actually "science" proves that no mask will stop the spread of the virus. I posted the facts on mask filters, virus size, eye contact, etc. you are being lied to in order to turn you into a sheep. Wake the fuck up before you get sheared and turned into mutton stew.

No mask will stop it completely. No one argues otherwise.

 

[Dick Foster]

There has been debate in the past few months on whether people should wear a mask in public. Conservatives say not wearing one is okay and liberals saying everyone should wear a mask.
With even Mitch McConnell and Mike Pence now taking the side of the liberal argument, it is safe to say we have a winner.

Sen. McConnell Says Americans Must Have 'No Stigma' In Wearing Face Masks

The leading Republican in the Senate was the latest in the party to break with President Trump and urge Americans to wear masks to combat the spread of the deadly coronavirus.

www.npr.org

Not as far as I'm concerned. I refuse to be dumbed down or lobotomized by drooling dumbasses who are dumber than myself.
BTW who elected you the referee?

 

[pknopp]

I don't understand why there must be a "side" to this. If I'm around people not wearing one and comfortable with that, then I don't. If I'm around people that are uncomfortable around people without masks I'll wear one.

It's not a big deal.

It is a big deal, and you should be wearing one ALL of the time when with other people outside your group. Especially around people who don't wear one, because they're more likely to be infected.

I am not going to put one on. I won't take the Vax either.

Good for you. Nobody is going to tell YOU what to do. We're not the boss of YOU.

Do you also refuse to wear a seat belt when driving? Did you wear a condom during the AIDS epidemic, or go bareback? Do you insist on your kids wearing bike helmets?

If you answered "Yes" to any of the above, why are masks and a vaccine the hill you're literally prepared to die on here? I say this in all seriousness. Why is wearing a mask suddenly this bridge too far for conservatives?

How is common sense guidance from the scientific community suddenly a political statement, and why, in God's name are you prepared to follow the guy who hasn't been right about a single thing he's done since the start of this pandemic?

Just stop LOL. ALL Progs EVER do is try to force EVERYONE to do as they want them too so spare me your lies. Get off the "Science" trash, if you believed in "science" you would admit there is male and female. Just. Two.
Fauci, Birx, the WHO and the CDC have been wrong at every turn. Wear your mask, ake the Vax but stay out of my life.
Why is it your body when you want to kill babies but not my body when I tell you to EFF off?

Argument goes both ways. With abortion you will argue that it's not just your body. Those who promote mask usage will argue the same. While I posted the example of why science isn't always science, there is zero question concerning that fact that a mask would most certainly help stop the spread to others.

There is really no evidence of that. There are still conflicting opinions on it.

No there isn't. Do you suppose doctors wear them as a fashion statement?

 

[JustAGuy1]

If I wear one or not is my choice, not your's, not the government's.

Until then, fuck off.

If you do not want to wear opne that is fine but do not expect entrance where ever you go. Buisness owners and private citizens have the right to ask you have one for entry. I do not require it on my boat. I am o neg blood and according to data very rare for o neg to get the virus and I have not had the flu since 1983 so IO do not reqire it. My six packs are typically of people who are together alll the time so they will infect each other anyways. If the health department tells me thats the only way I can run then I will require them till then I am fishing all day with out one.

I live way out in a tiny little town in nowhere country in SW WI, and I have everything I need right here, and no businesses around here are asking anyone to wear a mask. In fact, I rarely see anyone wearing a mask period. There's lots of scientific evidence floating around that show masks are not going stop the spread of the virus. You can believe they will if you like, and I can believe they won't. That's called freedom of choice.

I'm also O negative. We're called the "universal donor" because we can give blood to anyone, but when it comes to us, we need O negative.

My understanding of it is that the masks will reduce spread indoors better than out doors. as long as spttle does not get on you out doors uv rays will kill what hits surfaces. I do not think we need all the restrictions we have to defeat this disease. We just need to seperate the at risk people right now, the rest of us do not have a bad time with it. In the long run herd immunitiy would be best. If we can [revent the at risk people from getting it until we have herd immunity and maybe better ways of treating it we would be better off in the long run. This is my understabding how ever this is a new thing and the reality of things are that it takes a while of testing before we truely understand these things.

The at risks people that Governor Cujo killed by putting Kung Flu virus infected people amongst them? That darling on New York, the butcher of the elderly?

Here you are, you free thinking man, parrotting the igorance and lies of the FOX News talking points while calling Democrats "sheeple" for "not thinking for themselves".

Nursing home patients have long term care needs that cannot be met in hospitals. That's WHY these people are in nursing homes, and not in hospital in the first place. Nursing home patients die at a much faster rate in hospital because hospitals are not equipped to meet their care needs. They don't have staff to feed them, change them, bathe them, or tend to their personal care needs. Their FAMILIES are unable to look after these patients, and have placed them in care.

Nursing homes are basically very long term hospice facilities. Our county home has 3 levels of care - one is independent living - 1 bedroom geared to income apartments, with access to the dining room, foot care, the recreational facilities. Assisted living: large, private "batchelor suites" with no kitchen facilities

Finally there is full on care - where patients can no longer care for themselves. This is a essentially - a hospital you never leave. This wing of the facility is SUPPOSED to have an isolation unit, with reverse air pressure so no germs escape its walls. Where staff with sufficient PPE to keep people safe, can care for them.

But these units stay empty when not needed, so they weren't stocked, or staffed, or prepared to receive these patients. THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN.

CUOMO SHOULD HAVE SENT THESE PEOPLE BACK TO THEIR NURSING HOMES TO RECEIVE PROPER CARE. IT'S THE FAILURE OF THE NURSING HOMES - NEARLY ALL OF THEM BEING "FOR PROFIT" HOMES, TO KEEP THEIR PATIENTS SAFE.

THE NURSING HOME "INDUSTRY", ITS STAFFING PRACTICES, AND THE LAWS, REGULATIONS, AND ENFORCEMENT OF THEM WHICH LEAD TO THESE DEATHS IS A NATIONAL DISGRACE - NOT JUST IN NEW YORK.

But by all means continue to spout the Billionaire Media narrative Jim, and continue to prove what a dupe you are to the corporate liars and thieves who continue to enrich themselves in this pandemic. I mean it's only old people and blacks that it's killing right. You're completely safe.

You're body isn't compromised by your smoking is it, Jim? Are you fat? Do you have diabetes? Kidney disease? Are you over 60?

At this point, the best thing you have going for you is that you're such a miserable old asshole that nobody wants to be around you anyway, so you're probably safe for now.

He's miserable? Do you even know you?
You project such your b*tchiness and hate with nearly every post.
It's Cuomo's failure, he sent "infected" people into these Homes that were filled with health compromised people. He killed them.

 

[Dick Foster]

I don't understand why there must be a "side" to this. If I'm around people not wearing one and comfortable with that, then I don't. If I'm around people that are uncomfortable around people without masks I'll wear one.

It's not a big deal.

It is a big deal, and you should be wearing one ALL of the time when with other people outside your group. Especially around people who don't wear one, because they're more likely to be infected.

I am not going to put one on. I won't take the Vax either.

Good for you. Nobody is going to tell YOU what to do. We're not the boss of YOU.

Do you also refuse to wear a seat belt when driving? Did you wear a condom during the AIDS epidemic, or go bareback? Do you insist on your kids wearing bike helmets?

If you answered "Yes" to any of the above, why are masks and a vaccine the hill you're literally prepared to die on here? I say this in all seriousness. Why is wearing a mask suddenly this bridge too far for conservatives?

How is common sense guidance from the scientific community suddenly a political statement, and why, in God's name are you prepared to follow the guy who hasn't been right about a single thing he's done since the start of this pandemic?

Just stop LOL. ALL Progs EVER do is try to force EVERYONE to do as they want them too so spare me your lies. Get off the "Science" trash, if you believed in "science" you would admit there is male and female. Just. Two.
Fauci, Birx, the WHO and the CDC have been wrong at every turn. Wear your mask, ake the Vax but stay out of my life.
Why is it your body when you want to kill babies but not my body when I tell you to EFF off?

Argument goes both ways. With abortion you will argue that it's not just your body. Those who promote mask usage will argue the same. While I posted the example of why science isn't always science, there is zero question concerning that fact that a mask would most certainly help stop the spread to others.

There is really no evidence of that. There are still conflicting opinions on it.

No there isn't. Do you suppose doctors wear them as a fashion statement?

Doctors wear them in order to prevent infecting their patients with bacterial infections, dumbass.

 

[miketx]

Now Conservatives will say they supported them all the time

Trump will still not wear one

Make me wear one scumbag.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I don't understand why there must be a "side" to this. If I'm around people not wearing one and comfortable with that, then I don't. If I'm around people that are uncomfortable around people without masks I'll wear one.

It's not a big deal.

It is a big deal, and you should be wearing one ALL of the time when with other people outside your group. Especially around people who don't wear one, because they're more likely to be infected.

I am not going to put one on. I won't take the Vax either.

Good for you. Nobody is going to tell YOU what to do. We're not the boss of YOU.

Do you also refuse to wear a seat belt when driving? Did you wear a condom during the AIDS epidemic, or go bareback? Do you insist on your kids wearing bike helmets?

If you answered "Yes" to any of the above, why are masks and a vaccine the hill you're literally prepared to die on here? I say this in all seriousness. Why is wearing a mask suddenly this bridge too far for conservatives?

How is common sense guidance from the scientific community suddenly a political statement, and why, in God's name are you prepared to follow the guy who hasn't been right about a single thing he's done since the start of this pandemic?

Just stop LOL. ALL Progs EVER do is try to force EVERYONE to do as they want them too so spare me your lies. Get off the "Science" trash, if you believed in "science" you would admit there is male and female. Just. Two.
Fauci, Birx, the WHO and the CDC have been wrong at every turn. Wear your mask, ake the Vax but stay out of my life.
Why is it your body when you want to kill babies but not my body when I tell you to EFF off?

Argument goes both ways. With abortion you will argue that it's not just your body. Those who promote mask usage will argue the same. While I posted the example of why science isn't always science, there is zero question concerning that fact that a mask would most certainly help stop the spread to others.

There is really no evidence of that. There are still conflicting opinions on it.

No there isn't. Do you suppose doctors wear them as a fashion statement?

It's a precautionary measure, but doctors spend the day with sick people. Plus their masks are the finest quality and probably work a little better than the rest of us get. My niece made masks for our family, and I trust her because she has a biology degree.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

I don't understand why there must be a "side" to this. If I'm around people not wearing one and comfortable with that, then I don't. If I'm around people that are uncomfortable around people without masks I'll wear one.

It's not a big deal.

It is a big deal, and you should be wearing one ALL of the time when with other people outside your group. Especially around people who don't wear one, because they're more likely to be infected.

I am not going to put one on. I won't take the Vax either.

Good for you. Nobody is going to tell YOU what to do. We're not the boss of YOU.

Do you also refuse to wear a seat belt when driving? Did you wear a condom during the AIDS epidemic, or go bareback? Do you insist on your kids wearing bike helmets?

If you answered "Yes" to any of the above, why are masks and a vaccine the hill you're literally prepared to die on here? I say this in all seriousness. Why is wearing a mask suddenly this bridge too far for conservatives?

How is common sense guidance from the scientific community suddenly a political statement, and why, in God's name are you prepared to follow the guy who hasn't been right about a single thing he's done since the start of this pandemic?

It is a shame that the public education system created a bunch of pussy women and pussy pajama boys.

A Message For EVERYONE Who Survived The 1940s, 50s, 60s, and 70s!

How on earth did you manage to survive??

This is an open letter to all of the kids who managed to survive the 1930s, 40s, 50s, 60s and 70s!

 

[pknopp]

I don't understand why there must be a "side" to this. If I'm around people not wearing one and comfortable with that, then I don't. If I'm around people that are uncomfortable around people without masks I'll wear one.

It's not a big deal.

It is a big deal, and you should be wearing one ALL of the time when with other people outside your group. Especially around people who don't wear one, because they're more likely to be infected.

I am not going to put one on. I won't take the Vax either.

Good for you. Nobody is going to tell YOU what to do. We're not the boss of YOU.

Do you also refuse to wear a seat belt when driving? Did you wear a condom during the AIDS epidemic, or go bareback? Do you insist on your kids wearing bike helmets?

If you answered "Yes" to any of the above, why are masks and a vaccine the hill you're literally prepared to die on here? I say this in all seriousness. Why is wearing a mask suddenly this bridge too far for conservatives?

How is common sense guidance from the scientific community suddenly a political statement, and why, in God's name are you prepared to follow the guy who hasn't been right about a single thing he's done since the start of this pandemic?

Just stop LOL. ALL Progs EVER do is try to force EVERYONE to do as they want them too so spare me your lies. Get off the "Science" trash, if you believed in "science" you would admit there is male and female. Just. Two.
Fauci, Birx, the WHO and the CDC have been wrong at every turn. Wear your mask, ake the Vax but stay out of my life.
Why is it your body when you want to kill babies but not my body when I tell you to EFF off?

Argument goes both ways. With abortion you will argue that it's not just your body. Those who promote mask usage will argue the same. While I posted the example of why science isn't always science, there is zero question concerning that fact that a mask would most certainly help stop the spread to others.

There is really no evidence of that. There are still conflicting opinions on it.

No there isn't. Do you suppose doctors wear them as a fashion statement?

Doctors wear them in order to prevent infecting their patients with bacterial infections, dumbass.

Protect them from infections. Period.

 

[pknopp]

I don't understand why there must be a "side" to this. If I'm around people not wearing one and comfortable with that, then I don't. If I'm around people that are uncomfortable around people without masks I'll wear one.

It's not a big deal.

It is a big deal, and you should be wearing one ALL of the time when with other people outside your group. Especially around people who don't wear one, because they're more likely to be infected.

I am not going to put one on. I won't take the Vax either.

Good for you. Nobody is going to tell YOU what to do. We're not the boss of YOU.

Do you also refuse to wear a seat belt when driving? Did you wear a condom during the AIDS epidemic, or go bareback? Do you insist on your kids wearing bike helmets?

If you answered "Yes" to any of the above, why are masks and a vaccine the hill you're literally prepared to die on here? I say this in all seriousness. Why is wearing a mask suddenly this bridge too far for conservatives?

How is common sense guidance from the scientific community suddenly a political statement, and why, in God's name are you prepared to follow the guy who hasn't been right about a single thing he's done since the start of this pandemic?

Just stop LOL. ALL Progs EVER do is try to force EVERYONE to do as they want them too so spare me your lies. Get off the "Science" trash, if you believed in "science" you would admit there is male and female. Just. Two.
Fauci, Birx, the WHO and the CDC have been wrong at every turn. Wear your mask, ake the Vax but stay out of my life.
Why is it your body when you want to kill babies but not my body when I tell you to EFF off?

Argument goes both ways. With abortion you will argue that it's not just your body. Those who promote mask usage will argue the same. While I posted the example of why science isn't always science, there is zero question concerning that fact that a mask would most certainly help stop the spread to others.

There is really no evidence of that. There are still conflicting opinions on it.

No there isn't. Do you suppose doctors wear them as a fashion statement?

It's a precautionary measure, but doctors spend the day with sick people. Plus their masks are the finest quality and probably work a little better than the rest of us get. My niece made masks for our family, and I trust her because she has a biology degree.

They probably do work a little better than the ones most people use. That doesn't mean they don't work.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If I wear one or not is my choice, not your's, not the government's.

Until then, fuck off.

If you do not want to wear opne that is fine but do not expect entrance where ever you go. Buisness owners and private citizens have the right to ask you have one for entry. I do not require it on my boat. I am o neg blood and according to data very rare for o neg to get the virus and I have not had the flu since 1983 so IO do not reqire it. My six packs are typically of people who are together alll the time so they will infect each other anyways. If the health department tells me thats the only way I can run then I will require them till then I am fishing all day with out one.

I live way out in a tiny little town in nowhere country in SW WI, and I have everything I need right here, and no businesses around here are asking anyone to wear a mask. In fact, I rarely see anyone wearing a mask period. There's lots of scientific evidence floating around that show masks are not going stop the spread of the virus. You can believe they will if you like, and I can believe they won't. That's called freedom of choice.

I'm also O negative. We're called the "universal donor" because we can give blood to anyone, but when it comes to us, we need O negative.

My understanding of it is that the masks will reduce spread indoors better than out doors. as long as spttle does not get on you out doors uv rays will kill what hits surfaces. I do not think we need all the restrictions we have to defeat this disease. We just need to seperate the at risk people right now, the rest of us do not have a bad time with it. In the long run herd immunitiy would be best. If we can [revent the at risk people from getting it until we have herd immunity and maybe better ways of treating it we would be better off in the long run. This is my understabding how ever this is a new thing and the reality of things are that it takes a while of testing before we truely understand these things.

The at risks people that Governor Cujo killed by putting Kung Flu virus infected people amongst them? That darling on New York, the butcher of the elderly?

Here you are, you free thinking man, parrotting the igorance and lies of the FOX News talking points while calling Democrats "sheeple" for "not thinking for themselves".

Nursing home patients have long term care needs that cannot be met in hospitals. That's WHY these people are in nursing homes, and not in hospital in the first place. Nursing home patients die at a much faster rate in hospital because hospitals are not equipped to meet their care needs. They don't have staff to feed them, change them, bathe them, or tend to their personal care needs. Their FAMILIES are unable to look after these patients, and have placed them in care.

Nursing homes are basically very long term hospice facilities. Our county home has 3 levels of care - one is independent living - 1 bedroom geared to income apartments, with access to the dining room, foot care, the recreational facilities. Assisted living: large, private "batchelor suites" with no kitchen facilities

Finally there is full on care - where patients can no longer care for themselves. This is a essentially - a hospital you never leave. This wing of the facility is SUPPOSED to have an isolation unit, with reverse air pressure so no germs escape its walls. Where staff with sufficient PPE to keep people safe, can care for them.

But these units stay empty when not needed, so they weren't stocked, or staffed, or prepared to receive these patients. THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN.

CUOMO SHOULD HAVE SENT THESE PEOPLE BACK TO THEIR NURSING HOMES TO RECEIVE PROPER CARE. IT'S THE FAILURE OF THE NURSING HOMES - NEARLY ALL OF THEM BEING "FOR PROFIT" HOMES, TO KEEP THEIR PATIENTS SAFE.

THE NURSING HOME "INDUSTRY", ITS STAFFING PRACTICES, AND THE LAWS, REGULATIONS, AND ENFORCEMENT OF THEM WHICH LEAD TO THESE DEATHS IS A NATIONAL DISGRACE - NOT JUST IN NEW YORK.

But by all means continue to spout the Billionaire Media narrative Jim, and continue to prove what a dupe you are to the corporate liars and thieves who continue to enrich themselves in this pandemic. I mean it's only old people and blacks that it's killing right. You're completely safe.

You're body isn't compromised by your smoking is it, Jim? Are you fat? Do you have diabetes? Kidney disease? Are you over 60?

At this point, the best thing you have going for you is that you're such a miserable old asshole that nobody wants to be around you anyway, so you're probably safe for now.

You mean that hospitals can't change patients, can't feed them, can't bathe them? Sorry to inform you, but that's what they do all day every day.

Bottom line is NYC had plenty of beds thanks to President Trump. He got our military in there to retrofit buildings and ships to accommodate people that NYC didn't even use. So why didn't Cuomo use them? Because then he would have had to give the President credit for his help.

So instead, he sent those infected people to nursing homes killing many patients. The nursing homes begged him not to as they are not equip to handle people with highly contagious and deadly viruses.

 

[Dragonlady]

If only we could get Trump to wear a fucking mask.

MAGA nation will not wear them till he does

Ya... see... OOOOPS... YOU LET THAT SLIP... this mask BS is all about COMPLIANCE. It's got nothing to do with PUBLIC SAFETY or HEALTH.

If I wear a mask, I still have a 30% chance of getting the virus, and your risk is much, much higher if you don't, If we both wear a mask, the risk to either of us is less than 3%.

There was a case in Arizona of a hairdresser at a Magic Cuts in Phoenix who had tested positive but was asymptomatic, who went to work because she needed the money when her shop re-opened. They followed social distancing rules in the shop and everyone wore a mask - hairdressers and clients. Her co-worker closest to her got the virus and she continued working as well. Between the two of them, they cut nearly 250 heads of hair before both got too sick to work.

Because Magic Cuts has a computer booking system with contact information, it was easy to track the people who were exposed to these two hairdressers. None of the people who had their hair cut, got sick. The only person hairdresser #1 infected, was hairdresser #2, who she worked next to for days on end.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I don't understand why there must be a "side" to this. If I'm around people not wearing one and comfortable with that, then I don't. If I'm around people that are uncomfortable around people without masks I'll wear one.

It's not a big deal.

It is a big deal, and you should be wearing one ALL of the time when with other people outside your group. Especially around people who don't wear one, because they're more likely to be infected.

I am not going to put one on. I won't take the Vax either.

Good for you. Nobody is going to tell YOU what to do. We're not the boss of YOU.

Do you also refuse to wear a seat belt when driving? Did you wear a condom during the AIDS epidemic, or go bareback? Do you insist on your kids wearing bike helmets?

If you answered "Yes" to any of the above, why are masks and a vaccine the hill you're literally prepared to die on here? I say this in all seriousness. Why is wearing a mask suddenly this bridge too far for conservatives?

How is common sense guidance from the scientific community suddenly a political statement, and why, in God's name are you prepared to follow the guy who hasn't been right about a single thing he's done since the start of this pandemic?

Just stop LOL. ALL Progs EVER do is try to force EVERYONE to do as they want them too so spare me your lies. Get off the "Science" trash, if you believed in "science" you would admit there is male and female. Just. Two.
Fauci, Birx, the WHO and the CDC have been wrong at every turn. Wear your mask, ake the Vax but stay out of my life.
Why is it your body when you want to kill babies but not my body when I tell you to EFF off?

Argument goes both ways. With abortion you will argue that it's not just your body. Those who promote mask usage will argue the same. While I posted the example of why science isn't always science, there is zero question concerning that fact that a mask would most certainly help stop the spread to others.

There is really no evidence of that. There are still conflicting opinions on it.

No there isn't. Do you suppose doctors wear them as a fashion statement?

It's a precautionary measure, but doctors spend the day with sick people. Plus their masks are the finest quality and probably work a little better than the rest of us get. My niece made masks for our family, and I trust her because she has a biology degree.

They probably do work a little better than the ones most people use. That doesn't mean they don't work.

Do you mean to tell me no medical workers ever caught the Wuhan virus? Because they all wear masks. It's mandatory to work in these places.

 

[pknopp]

I don't understand why there must be a "side" to this. If I'm around people not wearing one and comfortable with that, then I don't. If I'm around people that are uncomfortable around people without masks I'll wear one.

It's not a big deal.

It is a big deal, and you should be wearing one ALL of the time when with other people outside your group. Especially around people who don't wear one, because they're more likely to be infected.

I am not going to put one on. I won't take the Vax either.

Good for you. Nobody is going to tell YOU what to do. We're not the boss of YOU.

Do you also refuse to wear a seat belt when driving? Did you wear a condom during the AIDS epidemic, or go bareback? Do you insist on your kids wearing bike helmets?

If you answered "Yes" to any of the above, why are masks and a vaccine the hill you're literally prepared to die on here? I say this in all seriousness. Why is wearing a mask suddenly this bridge too far for conservatives?

How is common sense guidance from the scientific community suddenly a political statement, and why, in God's name are you prepared to follow the guy who hasn't been right about a single thing he's done since the start of this pandemic?

Just stop LOL. ALL Progs EVER do is try to force EVERYONE to do as they want them too so spare me your lies. Get off the "Science" trash, if you believed in "science" you would admit there is male and female. Just. Two.
Fauci, Birx, the WHO and the CDC have been wrong at every turn. Wear your mask, ake the Vax but stay out of my life.
Why is it your body when you want to kill babies but not my body when I tell you to EFF off?

Argument goes both ways. With abortion you will argue that it's not just your body. Those who promote mask usage will argue the same. While I posted the example of why science isn't always science, there is zero question concerning that fact that a mask would most certainly help stop the spread to others.

There is really no evidence of that. There are still conflicting opinions on it.

No there isn't. Do you suppose doctors wear them as a fashion statement?

It's a precautionary measure, but doctors spend the day with sick people. Plus their masks are the finest quality and probably work a little better than the rest of us get. My niece made masks for our family, and I trust her because she has a biology degree.

They probably do work a little better than the ones most people use. That doesn't mean they don't work.

Do you mean to tell me no medical workers ever caught the Wuhan virus? Because they all wear masks. It's mandatory to work in these places.

Nobody is trying to argue that anything is perfect. I already stated that once.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I don't understand why there must be a "side" to this. If I'm around people not wearing one and comfortable with that, then I don't. If I'm around people that are uncomfortable around people without masks I'll wear one.

It's not a big deal.

It is a big deal, and you should be wearing one ALL of the time when with other people outside your group. Especially around people who don't wear one, because they're more likely to be infected.

I am not going to put one on. I won't take the Vax either.

Good for you. Nobody is going to tell YOU what to do. We're not the boss of YOU.

Do you also refuse to wear a seat belt when driving? Did you wear a condom during the AIDS epidemic, or go bareback? Do you insist on your kids wearing bike helmets?

If you answered "Yes" to any of the above, why are masks and a vaccine the hill you're literally prepared to die on here? I say this in all seriousness. Why is wearing a mask suddenly this bridge too far for conservatives?

How is common sense guidance from the scientific community suddenly a political statement, and why, in God's name are you prepared to follow the guy who hasn't been right about a single thing he's done since the start of this pandemic?

Just stop LOL. ALL Progs EVER do is try to force EVERYONE to do as they want them too so spare me your lies. Get off the "Science" trash, if you believed in "science" you would admit there is male and female. Just. Two.
Fauci, Birx, the WHO and the CDC have been wrong at every turn. Wear your mask, ake the Vax but stay out of my life.
Why is it your body when you want to kill babies but not my body when I tell you to EFF off?

Argument goes both ways. With abortion you will argue that it's not just your body. Those who promote mask usage will argue the same. While I posted the example of why science isn't always science, there is zero question concerning that fact that a mask would most certainly help stop the spread to others.

There is really no evidence of that. There are still conflicting opinions on it.

No there isn't. Do you suppose doctors wear them as a fashion statement?

It's a precautionary measure, but doctors spend the day with sick people. Plus their masks are the finest quality and probably work a little better than the rest of us get. My niece made masks for our family, and I trust her because she has a biology degree.

They probably do work a little better than the ones most people use. That doesn't mean they don't work.

Do you mean to tell me no medical workers ever caught the Wuhan virus? Because they all wear masks. It's mandatory to work in these places.

Nobody is trying to argue that anything is perfect. I already stated that once.

And I stated it was a precautionary measure which even you have to agree with. I'm a right wing Republican, and I wear a mask when in public. I have hand sanitizer next to my microwave by my back door so I don't forget to use it when I enter or exit my apartment. I have sanitizer in my car. I use it before I leave the car, and sanitizing my hands is the first thing I do when I re-enter my car.

Do I do these things because Fauci recommended it, or Biden, or Trump? No, I do these things because my health provider (The Cleveland Clinic) told me it's the best thing I can do for a person with my health and age.

 

[JimBowie1958]

There has been debate in the past few months on whether people should wear a mask in public. Conservatives say not wearing one is okay and liberals saying everyone should wear a mask.
With even Mitch McConnell and Mike Pence now taking the side of the liberal argument, it is safe to say we have a winner.

Sen. McConnell Says Americans Must Have 'No Stigma' In Wearing Face Masks

The leading Republican in the Senate was the latest in the party to break with President Trump and urge Americans to wear masks to combat the spread of the deadly coronavirus.

www.npr.org

Many conservatives have supported the wearing of masks.

Though I am not a conservative, I h ave always supported mask wearing in order to speed up reopening the economy.

IT isnt just liberals, dude.

 

[Nostra]

There has been debate in the past few months on whether people should wear a mask in public. Conservatives say not wearing one is okay and liberals saying everyone should wear a mask.
With even Mitch McConnell and Mike Pence now taking the side of the liberal argument, it is safe to safe we have a winner.

Sen. McConnell Says Americans Must Have 'No Stigma' In Wearing Face Masks

The leading Republican in the Senate was the latest in the party to break with President Trump and urge Americans to wear masks to combat the spread of the deadly coronavirus.

www.npr.org

Make me wear a mask....

Pence and McConnell want you to.

They have no power to make me.

Next?

 

[pknopp]

I don't understand why there must be a "side" to this. If I'm around people not wearing one and comfortable with that, then I don't. If I'm around people that are uncomfortable around people without masks I'll wear one.

It's not a big deal.

It is a big deal, and you should be wearing one ALL of the time when with other people outside your group. Especially around people who don't wear one, because they're more likely to be infected.

I am not going to put one on. I won't take the Vax either.

Good for you. Nobody is going to tell YOU what to do. We're not the boss of YOU.

Do you also refuse to wear a seat belt when driving? Did you wear a condom during the AIDS epidemic, or go bareback? Do you insist on your kids wearing bike helmets?

If you answered "Yes" to any of the above, why are masks and a vaccine the hill you're literally prepared to die on here? I say this in all seriousness. Why is wearing a mask suddenly this bridge too far for conservatives?

How is common sense guidance from the scientific community suddenly a political statement, and why, in God's name are you prepared to follow the guy who hasn't been right about a single thing he's done since the start of this pandemic?

Just stop LOL. ALL Progs EVER do is try to force EVERYONE to do as they want them too so spare me your lies. Get off the "Science" trash, if you believed in "science" you would admit there is male and female. Just. Two.
Fauci, Birx, the WHO and the CDC have been wrong at every turn. Wear your mask, ake the Vax but stay out of my life.
Why is it your body when you want to kill babies but not my body when I tell you to EFF off?

Argument goes both ways. With abortion you will argue that it's not just your body. Those who promote mask usage will argue the same. While I posted the example of why science isn't always science, there is zero question concerning that fact that a mask would most certainly help stop the spread to others.

There is really no evidence of that. There are still conflicting opinions on it.

No there isn't. Do you suppose doctors wear them as a fashion statement?

It's a precautionary measure, but doctors spend the day with sick people. Plus their masks are the finest quality and probably work a little better than the rest of us get. My niece made masks for our family, and I trust her because she has a biology degree.

They probably do work a little better than the ones most people use. That doesn't mean they don't work.

Do you mean to tell me no medical workers ever caught the Wuhan virus? Because they all wear masks. It's mandatory to work in these places.

Nobody is trying to argue that anything is perfect. I already stated that once.

And I stated it was a precautionary measure which even you have to agree with. I'm a right wing Republican, and I wear a mask when in public. I have hand sanitizer next to my microwave by my back door so I don't forget to use it when I enter or exit my apartment. I have sanitizer in my car. I use it before I leave the car, and sanitizing my hands is the first thing I do when I re-enter my car.

Do I do these things because Fauci recommended it, or Biden, or Trump? No, I do these things because my health provider (The Cleveland Clinic) told me it's the best thing I can do for a person with my health and age.

That's great. This is my point from the beginning. If you are more comfortable wearing, then you should. No one should demean you for that. If I was around you and it made you more comfortable, I would wear also as it's a minor thing to make someone more comfortable.

 

[Nostra]

There has been debate in the past few months on whether people should wear a mask in public. Conservatives say not wearing one is okay and liberals saying everyone should wear a mask.
With even Mitch McConnell and Mike Pence now taking the side of the liberal argument, it is safe to say we have a winner.

Sen. McConnell Says Americans Must Have 'No Stigma' In Wearing Face Masks

The leading Republican in the Senate was the latest in the party to break with President Trump and urge Americans to wear masks to combat the spread of the deadly coronavirus.

www.npr.org

Did you start another thread on the same topic since you got your ass kicked so badly for your lies in this one?

Mike Pence breaks with Trump: tells Americans to wear a mask

5 months later, Pence now says people should wear masks. At least he beat Trump to it: "Wear a mask, where ever it's indicated or where ever you're not able to practice the kind of social distancing that would prevent the spread of the coronavirus," said Pence...

www.usmessageboard.com