Militarism at the Heart of US Gun Violence

[Correll]

You mean like Hillary and McCain demanding war with Russia?

I agree that is a problem. I certainly want to scale BACK our commitments.


Do you?

You mean like Hillary and McCain demanding war with Russia?

I agree that is a problem. I certainly want to scale BACK our commitments.


Do you?

Among the many reasons why I would never cast a vote for Hillary or McCain was their foreign policy positions; although, I'm not sure war with Iran or Venezuela represents any improvement? Personally, I would turn over the Green New Deal to the Pentagon in exchange for all future revenues from solar, wind, and tidal sources funding US defense spending.

Nice graph. It is clear that military spending is a small and decreasing portion of the US budget and society.

NOt even 14%. Pathetic.

Nice graph. It is clear that military spending is a small and decreasing portion of the US budget and society.

NOt even 14%. Pathetic.

Twice what it should be, especially with all the well-documented waste and fraud.

The Pentagon is Infested with Fraud, Waste, Abuse and Corruption - Busy

Fraud and waste are not reasons to cut military spending. Fraud and waste are always part of government programs.


If you want to cut military spending, you need to make the case that we are not in danger.


That you did not try that, is pretty telling.


YOu really want to cut military spending, even though you know we are in danger?

Fraud and waste are not reasons to cut military spending. Fraud and waste are always part of government programs.


If you want to cut military spending, you need to make the case that we are not in danger.


That you did not try that, is pretty telling.


YOu really want to cut military spending, even though you know we are in danger?

We're in far more danger from a deodorized, truncated conversation about the reality of the US presence on this planet.

Are you aware an increasing percentage of the world regards the USA as the foremost threat to global survival?

As MLK said those bombs dropped in foreign lands detonate in their homeland as well.

When sixty cents of every tax dollar go to propping up the US Empire, issues like universal healthcare, catastrophic climate change, and a living wage are suffocated by hysterical drama queens who a terrified by anyone without a white skin.

Poll: Top Threats Facing the World in 2019, US Moving Up The List - Citizen Truth

1. Love to have that conversation. I note you didn't address my question to you, as to what ideas on your side of the aisle might be a manifestation of that magical thinking you are worried about. Do you consider yourself and your allies immune to the ills of the society and culture you are a part of? That is not a serious position, and greatly undermines your claim to want a real conversation.

2. The world is pretty fucked up. The West as a whole is deeply decedent. The Muslim World is in serious denial about it's problems. China is a time bomb. India, stagnating. Blaming US is such an easy out, it is not even funny.

3. MLK, said a lot of shit. His words do not have much weight with me, beyond their own internal logic, or lack there of. YOu want to make a point, MAKE IT.

4. Your 60 cents number is a lie. Your race baiting is a lie, designed to hide your real agenda.

5. What is your vision of the future, that you think is served by nerfing the US military?

 

[Correll]

The SocialistWorker.org....... Now there's an unbiased group......

The SocialistWorker.org....... Now there's an unbiased group

Point out any errors:

"The case of Nikolas Cruz also raises another issue: the U.S. military's heavy recruitment presence in schools across the country, particularly through the JROTC program that targets low-income children as early as 6th grade.

"This includes teaching students how to shoot guns in preparation for future deployment to wars yet to be launched. In fact,

"Cruz was not only a member of ROTC, but he was part of his school rifle team, which received a $10,000 grant from the National Rifle Association before Cruz was expelled."

All personal interpretations and associative bias sampling to arrive at a case for of cause and effect. Oops.

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All personal interpretations and associative bias sampling to arrive at a case for of cause and effect. Oops.

Rampant US militarism is an objective fact to anyone who isn't afraid to look:

https://www.aclu.org/files/pdfs/humanrights/crc_report_20080513.pdf (P. 15)

"The JROTC oversees the Middle School Cadet Corps (MSCC), in which children ages 11 to 14 can participate.62

"The military has invited children as young as 11 to join MSCC, or pre-JROTC, programs at their elementary and middle schools.63

"Florida, Texas, and Chicago, Illinois offer military-run after-school programs to sixth-, seventh-, and eighth-graders.64 In Chicago alone, about 26 MSCC programs are offered.65

"These programs involve drills with wooden rifles and military chants.

"Students learn first-aid, civics, character development, and military history.

"They take field trips to local military bases and students wear their uniforms to school for inspections once a week.66"

Now, all you have to do, to make your case, is show any connection with that, and an increased chance of "gun violence" down the road.


This is where you change the subject. Perhaps, it is time to call someone "racist"?

Now, all you have to do, to make your case, is show any connection with that, and an increased chance of "gun violence" down the road.

I don't have any way of knowing how much "gun violence" lies down the road, ...

Down the road, for the young whites who go though the program.


Do you have anything to support your conclusion that students of MSCC, are more likely to become white supremacists, or engage is racist violence than their peers who did NOT go though the program.

 

[Correll]

Any doubt that this is all a communist conspiracy?



.

Any doubt that this is all a communist conspiracy?

Maybe it's a false flag conspiracy?

White Supremacism in the U.S. Military, Explained

"Watchdog groups that monitor domestic extremist activity were quick to cite the allegations against the Coast Guard officer, Lt. Christopher Hasson, as a fresh cause for concern, one of a number in recent years involving people with military backgrounds.

"They have warned that the armed forces can be a training and recruiting ground for hate groups.

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"'If you look at the list of domestic terrorism attacks, you will find a lot of veterans,' said Heidi Beirich, director of the intelligence project at the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Let's see we've got qualifiers such as "can be".

We've got looking at it backwards. Sure you look at a list, subjectively sorted to be "domestic terrorism" and then you find " a lot of veterans". Geez, a "lot"? THat really nails it down.


Oh, and the Southern Poverty Law center, those fucking asshole motherfuckers? lol!!!!!

Oh, and the Southern Poverty Law center, those fucking asshole motherfuckers? lol!!!!!

It sounds like you're on the same side as the racist, cracker ....."

Oh, the wonderful lack of self awareness of liberals.


Smearing me as a "racist" and literally the VERY NEXT WORD, is a racist slur?


Un-fucking-believable.

Oh, the wonderful lack of self awareness of liberals.


Smearing me as a "racist" and literally the VERY NEXT WORD, is a racist slur?


Un-fucking-believable.

You called the Southern Poverty Law Center "those fucking asshole motherfuckers"

I inquired if you side with "racist, cracker asshole motherfuckers."

Do you, or would that require a level of self-awareness beyond your current capabilities?

Depends. Do you mean ACTUAL ""racist, cracker asshole motherfuckers."


or just those people whom people like you smear as ""racist, cracker asshole motherfuckers."?




For instance, you are obviously racist, with your easy use of racial slurs, I don't side with you.

 

[georgephillip]

Among the many reasons why I would never cast a vote for Hillary or McCain was their foreign policy positions; although, I'm not sure war with Iran or Venezuela represents any improvement? Personally, I would turn over the Green New Deal to the Pentagon in exchange for all future revenues from solar, wind, and tidal sources funding US defense spending.

Nice graph. It is clear that military spending is a small and decreasing portion of the US budget and society.

NOt even 14%. Pathetic.

Nice graph. It is clear that military spending is a small and decreasing portion of the US budget and society.

NOt even 14%. Pathetic.

Twice what it should be, especially with all the well-documented waste and fraud.

The Pentagon is Infested with Fraud, Waste, Abuse and Corruption - Busy

Fraud and waste are not reasons to cut military spending. Fraud and waste are always part of government programs.


If you want to cut military spending, you need to make the case that we are not in danger.


That you did not try that, is pretty telling.


YOu really want to cut military spending, even though you know we are in danger?

Fraud and waste are not reasons to cut military spending. Fraud and waste are always part of government programs.


If you want to cut military spending, you need to make the case that we are not in danger.


That you did not try that, is pretty telling.


YOu really want to cut military spending, even though you know we are in danger?

We're in far more danger from a deodorized, truncated conversation about the reality of the US presence on this planet.

Are you aware an increasing percentage of the world regards the USA as the foremost threat to global survival?

As MLK said those bombs dropped in foreign lands detonate in their homeland as well.

When sixty cents of every tax dollar go to propping up the US Empire, issues like universal healthcare, catastrophic climate change, and a living wage are suffocated by hysterical drama queens who a terrified by anyone without a white skin.

Poll: Top Threats Facing the World in 2019, US Moving Up The List - Citizen Truth

1. Love to have that conversation. I note you didn't address my question to you, as to what ideas on your side of the aisle might be a manifestation of that magical thinking you are worried about. Do you consider yourself and your allies immune to the ills of the society and culture you are a part of? That is not a serious position, and greatly undermines your claim to want a real conversation.

2. The world is pretty fucked up. The West as a whole is deeply decedent. The Muslim World is in serious denial about it's problems. China is a time bomb. India, stagnating. Blaming US is such an easy out, it is not even funny.

3. MLK, said a lot of shit. His words do not have much weight with me, beyond their own internal logic, or lack there of. YOu want to make a point, MAKE IT.

4. Your 60 cents number is a lie. Your race baiting is a lie, designed to hide your real agenda.

5. What is your vision of the future, that you think is served by nerfing the US military?

The world is pretty fucked up. The West as a whole is deeply decedent. The Muslim World is in serious denial about it's problems. China is a time bomb. India, stagnating. Blaming US is such an easy out, it is not even funny.

The US military's invasions and occupations of the Muslim world has created the greatest refugee flow since the end of WWII; I seriously doubt many Muslims are in denial about the effects of "shock and awe" on local mortality/migration rates.

The Chinese system while far from perfect has an impressive track record for sustaining long term growth and development. While the US manufacturing base was hollowed out under the "free market" scam perpetrated by Reagan and Thatcher, China was systematically building its own manufacturing base and investing heavily in infrastructure and emerging technologies with credit generated by its own state-owned banks.

If you're expecting China to collapse of its own weight as the Soviets did, you will likely see the end of the US dollar as a global reserve currency long before China agrees to revert to its current colonial status.

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[georgephillip]

Among the many reasons why I would never cast a vote for Hillary or McCain was their foreign policy positions; although, I'm not sure war with Iran or Venezuela represents any improvement? Personally, I would turn over the Green New Deal to the Pentagon in exchange for all future revenues from solar, wind, and tidal sources funding US defense spending.

Nice graph. It is clear that military spending is a small and decreasing portion of the US budget and society.

NOt even 14%. Pathetic.

Nice graph. It is clear that military spending is a small and decreasing portion of the US budget and society.

NOt even 14%. Pathetic.

Twice what it should be, especially with all the well-documented waste and fraud.

The Pentagon is Infested with Fraud, Waste, Abuse and Corruption - Busy

Fraud and waste are not reasons to cut military spending. Fraud and waste are always part of government programs.


If you want to cut military spending, you need to make the case that we are not in danger.


That you did not try that, is pretty telling.


YOu really want to cut military spending, even though you know we are in danger?

Fraud and waste are not reasons to cut military spending. Fraud and waste are always part of government programs.


If you want to cut military spending, you need to make the case that we are not in danger.


That you did not try that, is pretty telling.


YOu really want to cut military spending, even though you know we are in danger?

We're in far more danger from a deodorized, truncated conversation about the reality of the US presence on this planet.

Are you aware an increasing percentage of the world regards the USA as the foremost threat to global survival?

As MLK said those bombs dropped in foreign lands detonate in their homeland as well.

When sixty cents of every tax dollar go to propping up the US Empire, issues like universal healthcare, catastrophic climate change, and a living wage are suffocated by hysterical drama queens who a terrified by anyone without a white skin.

Poll: Top Threats Facing the World in 2019, US Moving Up The List - Citizen Truth

1. Love to have that conversation. I note you didn't address my question to you, as to what ideas on your side of the aisle might be a manifestation of that magical thinking you are worried about. Do you consider yourself and your allies immune to the ills of the society and culture you are a part of? That is not a serious position, and greatly undermines your claim to want a real conversation.

2. The world is pretty fucked up. The West as a whole is deeply decedent. The Muslim World is in serious denial about it's problems. China is a time bomb. India, stagnating. Blaming US is such an easy out, it is not even funny.

3. MLK, said a lot of shit. His words do not have much weight with me, beyond their own internal logic, or lack there of. YOu want to make a point, MAKE IT.

4. Your 60 cents number is a lie. Your race baiting is a lie, designed to hide your real agenda.

5. What is your vision of the future, that you think is served by nerfing the US military?

Your 60 cents number is a lie. Your race baiting is a lie, designed to hide your real agenda.

What number would you propose?

Military Spending in the United States

 

[badger2]

8 Aug 2019 U.S. State Department Employee Is Prominent White Nationalist Leader
US State Department employee is prominent white nationalist leader, report says

"Indivisible, With Liberty and Justice For All"

It's a Panthers-KKK thing, where post #46 appears to make the photo of the KKK disappear. Because both Panther and KKK wish to keep their races apart, we further investigate god's major problem with all of this, mathematics, which is found in Deleuze's paragraph, a long (and deliberately single [italics]) paragraph (good luck):

'Intensity is the uncancellable in difference of quantity, but this difference of quantity is cancelled in extension, extension being precisely the process by which intensive difference is turned inside out and distributed in such a way as to be dispelled, compensated, equalised, suppressed in the extensity it creates. Nevertheless, how many necessary operations must intervene in this process! Admirable pages in the Timaeus bring together the divisible and the indivisible. The important point is that the divisible is defined as that which bears in itself the unequal, whereas the indivisible (the Same or the One) seeks to impose an equality upon it, and thereby render it docile. God beings by making a mixture of the two elements. However, precisely because the divisible, B, escapes the mixture and shows its inequality and oddness, God obtains only A + B/2 = C. As a result, he must make a second mixture: A + B/2 + C -- in other words, A + B/2 = (A + B/2). This mixture, however, also rebels, and he must avert the rebellion: he distributes it into parts according to two arithmetic progressions, one whose principle is 2, which refers to the element A (1,2,4,8); and the other whose principle is 3, which refers to C and recognises the oddness of B (1,3,9,27). Now God is faced with intervals, with (distances [italics]) to fill: he does this with two intermediates, one of which is arithmetic (corresponding to A), while the other is harmonic (corresponding to C). From this may be derived the relations, and the relations between these relations, which pursue the task of tracking the unequal in the divisible throughout the entire mixture. Furthermore, God must cut the whole in two, cross over the two halves and then bend them into two circles, such that the outer circle contains the equal in the form of the movement of the Same, while the other, inner circle, oriented along a diagonal, retains what subsists of inequality in the divisible by distributing it among secondary circles. Finally, God has not defeated the unequal in itself but only separated it from the divisible and enclosed it within an outer circle, (kuklos exothen [it.]). He has equalised the divisible in this extension which is the extension of the Soul of the world, but underneath, at the deepest layer of the divisible, the unequal still rumbles in intensity. This is of little consequence to God, for he fills the entire expanse of the soul with the extensity of bodies and their qualities. He covers everything. Nevertheless, he dances upon a volcano. Never have so many, so diverse and such demented operations been multiplied in order to draw from the depths of an intensive (spatium [it.]) a serene and docile extensity, and to dispel a Difference which subsists in itself even when it is cancelled outside itself. The labour of God is always threatened by the third hypothesis of the Parmenides, that of the differential or intensive instant.'
(Deleuze, Difference and Repetition, Asymmetrical Synthesis of the Sensible)

Now, watching either a Panther or KKK movie should make the same sense.

 

[georgephillip]

8 Aug 2019 U.S. State Department Employee Is Prominent White Nationalist Leader
US State Department employee is prominent white nationalist leader, report says

"Indivisible, With Liberty and Justice For All"

It's a Panthers-KKK thing, where post #46 appears to make the photo of the KKK disappear. Because both Panther and KKK wish to keep their races apart, we further investigate god's major problem with all of this, mathematics, which is found in Deleuze's paragraph, a long (and deliberately single [italics]) paragraph (good luck):

'Intensity is the uncancellable in difference of quantity, but this difference of quantity is cancelled in extension, extension being precisely the process by which intensive difference is turned inside out and distributed in such a way as to be dispelled, compensated, equalised, suppressed in the extensity it creates. Nevertheless, how many necessary operations must intervene in this process! Admirable pages in the Timaeus bring together the divisible and the indivisible. The important point is that the divisible is defined as that which bears in itself the unequal, whereas the indivisible (the Same or the One) seeks to impose an equality upon it, and thereby render it docile. God beings by making a mixture of the two elements. However, precisely because the divisible, B, escapes the mixture and shows its inequality and oddness, God obtains only A + B/2 = C. As a result, he must make a second mixture: A + B/2 + C -- in other words, A + B/2 = (A + B/2). This mixture, however, also rebels, and he must avert the rebellion: he distributes it into parts according to two arithmetic progressions, one whose principle is 2, which refers to the element A (1,2,4,8); and the other whose principle is 3, which refers to C and recognises the oddness of B (1,3,9,27). Now God is faced with intervals, with (distances [italics]) to fill: he does this with two intermediates, one of which is arithmetic (corresponding to A), while the other is harmonic (corresponding to C). From this may be derived the relations, and the relations between these relations, which pursue the task of tracking the unequal in the divisible throughout the entire mixture. Furthermore, God must cut the whole in two, cross over the two halves and then bend them into two circles, such that the outer circle contains the equal in the form of the movement of the Same, while the other, inner circle, oriented along a diagonal, retains what subsists of inequality in the divisible by distributing it among secondary circles. Finally, God has not defeated the unequal in itself but only separated it from the divisible and enclosed it within an outer circle, (kuklos exothen [it.]). He has equalised the divisible in this extension which is the extension of the Soul of the world, but underneath, at the deepest layer of the divisible, the unequal still rumbles in intensity. This is of little consequence to God, for he fills the entire expanse of the soul with the extensity of bodies and their qualities. He covers everything. Nevertheless, he dances upon a volcano. Never have so many, so diverse and such demented operations been multiplied in order to draw from the depths of an intensive (spatium [it.]) a serene and docile extensity, and to dispel a Difference which subsists in itself even when it is cancelled outside itself. The labour of God is always threatened by the third hypothesis of the Parmenides, that of the differential or intensive instant.'
(Deleuze, Difference and Repetition, Asymmetrical Synthesis of the Sensible)

Now, watching either a Panther or KKK movie should make the same sense.

8 Aug 2019 U.S. State Department Employee Is Prominent White Nationalist Leader
US State Department employee is prominent white nationalist leader, report says

"Indivisible, With Liberty and Justice For All"

Your link:

"An explosive new report says a US State Department official was the head of a Washington chapter for a white nationalist group and published extremist propaganda online.

"Matthew Gebert, who serves as a foreign affairs officer in the State Department’s Bureau of Energy Resources, actively promoted white nationalist sentiments and was a prominent member of white nationalism circles, the Southern Poverty Law Centre’s Hatewatch reported Wednesday."

Do you have a Cliff's Notes interpretation of God's concern with the Asymmetrical Synthesis of the Sensible?

 

[Correll]

Nice graph. It is clear that military spending is a small and decreasing portion of the US budget and society.

NOt even 14%. Pathetic.

Nice graph. It is clear that military spending is a small and decreasing portion of the US budget and society.

NOt even 14%. Pathetic.

Twice what it should be, especially with all the well-documented waste and fraud.

The Pentagon is Infested with Fraud, Waste, Abuse and Corruption - Busy

Fraud and waste are not reasons to cut military spending. Fraud and waste are always part of government programs.


If you want to cut military spending, you need to make the case that we are not in danger.


That you did not try that, is pretty telling.


YOu really want to cut military spending, even though you know we are in danger?

Fraud and waste are not reasons to cut military spending. Fraud and waste are always part of government programs.


If you want to cut military spending, you need to make the case that we are not in danger.


That you did not try that, is pretty telling.


YOu really want to cut military spending, even though you know we are in danger?

We're in far more danger from a deodorized, truncated conversation about the reality of the US presence on this planet.

Are you aware an increasing percentage of the world regards the USA as the foremost threat to global survival?

As MLK said those bombs dropped in foreign lands detonate in their homeland as well.

When sixty cents of every tax dollar go to propping up the US Empire, issues like universal healthcare, catastrophic climate change, and a living wage are suffocated by hysterical drama queens who a terrified by anyone without a white skin.

Poll: Top Threats Facing the World in 2019, US Moving Up The List - Citizen Truth

1. Love to have that conversation. I note you didn't address my question to you, as to what ideas on your side of the aisle might be a manifestation of that magical thinking you are worried about. Do you consider yourself and your allies immune to the ills of the society and culture you are a part of? That is not a serious position, and greatly undermines your claim to want a real conversation.

2. The world is pretty fucked up. The West as a whole is deeply decedent. The Muslim World is in serious denial about it's problems. China is a time bomb. India, stagnating. Blaming US is such an easy out, it is not even funny.

3. MLK, said a lot of shit. His words do not have much weight with me, beyond their own internal logic, or lack there of. YOu want to make a point, MAKE IT.

4. Your 60 cents number is a lie. Your race baiting is a lie, designed to hide your real agenda.

5. What is your vision of the future, that you think is served by nerfing the US military?

The world is pretty fucked up. The West as a whole is deeply decedent. The Muslim World is in serious denial about it's problems. China is a time bomb. India, stagnating. Blaming US is such an easy out, it is not even funny.

The US military's invasions and occupations of the Muslim world has created the greatest refugee flow since the end of WWII; I seriously doubt many Muslims are in denial about the effects of "shock and awe" on local mortality/migration rates.

The Chinese system while far from perfect has an impressive track record for sustaining long term growth and development. While the US manufacturing base was hollowed out under the "free market" scam perpetrated by Reagan and Thatcher, China was systematically building its own manufacturing base and investing heavily in infrastructure and emerging technologies with credit generated by its own state-owned banks.

If you're expecting China to collapse of its own weight as the Soviets did, you will likely see the end of the US dollar as a global reserve currency long before China agrees to revert to its current colonial status.

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I love the way you refuse to put any responsibility for the way things are, on anyone except the US.

Is that racism because you consider nonwhite people too stupid to be held responsible for their actions or is it just your hate for America?


Regardless my point stands. You want to reduce military spending you need to make the point that we are not in danger.


You still are not even trying to make that case.


What is end game that you want to see the US military nerfed?

 

[Correll]

Nice graph. It is clear that military spending is a small and decreasing portion of the US budget and society.

NOt even 14%. Pathetic.

Nice graph. It is clear that military spending is a small and decreasing portion of the US budget and society.

NOt even 14%. Pathetic.

Twice what it should be, especially with all the well-documented waste and fraud.

The Pentagon is Infested with Fraud, Waste, Abuse and Corruption - Busy

Fraud and waste are not reasons to cut military spending. Fraud and waste are always part of government programs.


If you want to cut military spending, you need to make the case that we are not in danger.


That you did not try that, is pretty telling.


YOu really want to cut military spending, even though you know we are in danger?

Fraud and waste are not reasons to cut military spending. Fraud and waste are always part of government programs.


If you want to cut military spending, you need to make the case that we are not in danger.


That you did not try that, is pretty telling.


YOu really want to cut military spending, even though you know we are in danger?

We're in far more danger from a deodorized, truncated conversation about the reality of the US presence on this planet.

Are you aware an increasing percentage of the world regards the USA as the foremost threat to global survival?

As MLK said those bombs dropped in foreign lands detonate in their homeland as well.

When sixty cents of every tax dollar go to propping up the US Empire, issues like universal healthcare, catastrophic climate change, and a living wage are suffocated by hysterical drama queens who a terrified by anyone without a white skin.

Poll: Top Threats Facing the World in 2019, US Moving Up The List - Citizen Truth

1. Love to have that conversation. I note you didn't address my question to you, as to what ideas on your side of the aisle might be a manifestation of that magical thinking you are worried about. Do you consider yourself and your allies immune to the ills of the society and culture you are a part of? That is not a serious position, and greatly undermines your claim to want a real conversation.

2. The world is pretty fucked up. The West as a whole is deeply decedent. The Muslim World is in serious denial about it's problems. China is a time bomb. India, stagnating. Blaming US is such an easy out, it is not even funny.

3. MLK, said a lot of shit. His words do not have much weight with me, beyond their own internal logic, or lack there of. YOu want to make a point, MAKE IT.

4. Your 60 cents number is a lie. Your race baiting is a lie, designed to hide your real agenda.

5. What is your vision of the future, that you think is served by nerfing the US military?

Your 60 cents number is a lie. Your race baiting is a lie, designed to hide your real agenda.

What number would you propose?

Military Spending in the United States

Social security is not 3% of the budget. Your graph is a lie.

Thanks for dropping the race baiting bullshit.


What is your vision of the future, that you think is served by nerfing the US military?

 

[badger2]

They're Rushing, Post-El Paso, They're Jumping the Gun in the Attempt to Confiscate the Guns

Cliff's Notes might say god has serious trouble dealing with a remainder and this remainder, difference-in-itself, must be tamed via magical capture. This seems like a good time to bring up OP's question about capitalism and morality, because nazism is morality itself and the implied transcendence of morality is just why god fails the math test as we can further expound on, though this excerpt matches post #127 State Department and KKK Cyclops, which one may possibly construe as the circle that encompasses another circle (Black Panthers:

'Let us return to Dumezil's theses: (1) Political sovereignty has two poles, the fearsome magician-emperor, operating by capture, bonds, knots, and nets, and the jurist-priest-king, proceeding by treaties, pacts, contracts (the couples Varuna-Mitra, Odin-Tyr, Wotan-Tiwaz, Uranus-Zeus, Romulus-Numa....); (2) the war function is exterior to political sovereignty and is equally distinct from both its poles (Indra or Thor or Tullus Hostilius....).

1. The State apparatus is thus animated by a curious rhythm, which is first of all a great mystery: that of the Binder-Gods or magic emperors, (One-Eyed [italics]) men emitting from their single eye signs that capture, tie knots at a distance. The jurist-kings, on the other hand, are (One-Armed [it.]) men who raise their single arm as an element of right and technology, the law and the tool. In the succession of men of State, look always fior the One-Eyed and the One-Armed, Horatius Cocles and Mucius Scaevola (de Gaulle and Pompidou?)
....
2. Of course, the two men of State are always getting mixed up in affairs of war. But either the magic emperor sends to battle warriors who are not his own, whom he takes into his service by capture; or, more important, when he makes his appearance on the battlefield, he suspends the use of weapons, he throws his net over the warriors, his single eye throws them into petrified catatonia, "he binds without combat," he (encasts [it.]) the war machine (this State capture is not to be confused with captures of war: conquests, prisoners, spoils).'
(Deleuze and Guattari, 7000 B.C.: Apparatus of Capture)

 

[badger2]

The conscription of "poor males" (OP's term) includes pre-duped or information- and hormone-compromised males, a machine for the processing of DNA by other means than just-another-business-day capitalism which apparatus of capture includes the deceptions of the appeal to morality and (an impossible) justice. We suggest the age for comparing U.S. mass shooters pivots on Russians as well, because the media is now asking the question as to which Army is stronger, and because 26 years of age will link an important Russian figure with this investigation.

 

[georgephillip]

Twice what it should be, especially with all the well-documented waste and fraud.

The Pentagon is Infested with Fraud, Waste, Abuse and Corruption - Busy

Fraud and waste are not reasons to cut military spending. Fraud and waste are always part of government programs.


If you want to cut military spending, you need to make the case that we are not in danger.


That you did not try that, is pretty telling.


YOu really want to cut military spending, even though you know we are in danger?

Fraud and waste are not reasons to cut military spending. Fraud and waste are always part of government programs.


If you want to cut military spending, you need to make the case that we are not in danger.


That you did not try that, is pretty telling.


YOu really want to cut military spending, even though you know we are in danger?

We're in far more danger from a deodorized, truncated conversation about the reality of the US presence on this planet.

Are you aware an increasing percentage of the world regards the USA as the foremost threat to global survival?

As MLK said those bombs dropped in foreign lands detonate in their homeland as well.

When sixty cents of every tax dollar go to propping up the US Empire, issues like universal healthcare, catastrophic climate change, and a living wage are suffocated by hysterical drama queens who a terrified by anyone without a white skin.

Poll: Top Threats Facing the World in 2019, US Moving Up The List - Citizen Truth

1. Love to have that conversation. I note you didn't address my question to you, as to what ideas on your side of the aisle might be a manifestation of that magical thinking you are worried about. Do you consider yourself and your allies immune to the ills of the society and culture you are a part of? That is not a serious position, and greatly undermines your claim to want a real conversation.

2. The world is pretty fucked up. The West as a whole is deeply decedent. The Muslim World is in serious denial about it's problems. China is a time bomb. India, stagnating. Blaming US is such an easy out, it is not even funny.

3. MLK, said a lot of shit. His words do not have much weight with me, beyond their own internal logic, or lack there of. YOu want to make a point, MAKE IT.

4. Your 60 cents number is a lie. Your race baiting is a lie, designed to hide your real agenda.

5. What is your vision of the future, that you think is served by nerfing the US military?

The world is pretty fucked up. The West as a whole is deeply decedent. The Muslim World is in serious denial about it's problems. China is a time bomb. India, stagnating. Blaming US is such an easy out, it is not even funny.

The US military's invasions and occupations of the Muslim world has created the greatest refugee flow since the end of WWII; I seriously doubt many Muslims are in denial about the effects of "shock and awe" on local mortality/migration rates.

The Chinese system while far from perfect has an impressive track record for sustaining long term growth and development. While the US manufacturing base was hollowed out under the "free market" scam perpetrated by Reagan and Thatcher, China was systematically building its own manufacturing base and investing heavily in infrastructure and emerging technologies with credit generated by its own state-owned banks.

If you're expecting China to collapse of its own weight as the Soviets did, you will likely see the end of the US dollar as a global reserve currency long before China agrees to revert to its current colonial status.

The Best Books on The Opium War | Five Books Expert Recommendations

I love the way you refuse to put any responsibility for the way things are, on anyone except the US.

Is that racism because you consider nonwhite people too stupid to be held responsible for their actions or is it just your hate for America?


Regardless my point stands. You want to reduce military spending you need to make the point that we are not in danger.


You still are not even trying to make that case.


What is end game that you want to see the US military nerfed?

I love the way you refuse to put any responsibility for the way things are, on anyone except the US.

What other country besides the US has controlled the global economy since the end of WWII? Which nation created the IMF and World Bank to function as its proxy? Which state insists other countries invest their balance-of-payments inflows and central bank savings in US dollars, especially US Treasuries? How else does the Greatest Purveyor of Violence in the World afford its 800 military bases around the world?

Why does the US have 800 military bases in 80 Countries around the world? - Fighter Jets World

 

[Correll]

Fraud and waste are not reasons to cut military spending. Fraud and waste are always part of government programs.


If you want to cut military spending, you need to make the case that we are not in danger.


That you did not try that, is pretty telling.


YOu really want to cut military spending, even though you know we are in danger?

Fraud and waste are not reasons to cut military spending. Fraud and waste are always part of government programs.


If you want to cut military spending, you need to make the case that we are not in danger.


That you did not try that, is pretty telling.


YOu really want to cut military spending, even though you know we are in danger?

We're in far more danger from a deodorized, truncated conversation about the reality of the US presence on this planet.

Are you aware an increasing percentage of the world regards the USA as the foremost threat to global survival?

As MLK said those bombs dropped in foreign lands detonate in their homeland as well.

When sixty cents of every tax dollar go to propping up the US Empire, issues like universal healthcare, catastrophic climate change, and a living wage are suffocated by hysterical drama queens who a terrified by anyone without a white skin.

Poll: Top Threats Facing the World in 2019, US Moving Up The List - Citizen Truth

1. Love to have that conversation. I note you didn't address my question to you, as to what ideas on your side of the aisle might be a manifestation of that magical thinking you are worried about. Do you consider yourself and your allies immune to the ills of the society and culture you are a part of? That is not a serious position, and greatly undermines your claim to want a real conversation.

2. The world is pretty fucked up. The West as a whole is deeply decedent. The Muslim World is in serious denial about it's problems. China is a time bomb. India, stagnating. Blaming US is such an easy out, it is not even funny.

3. MLK, said a lot of shit. His words do not have much weight with me, beyond their own internal logic, or lack there of. YOu want to make a point, MAKE IT.

4. Your 60 cents number is a lie. Your race baiting is a lie, designed to hide your real agenda.

5. What is your vision of the future, that you think is served by nerfing the US military?

The world is pretty fucked up. The West as a whole is deeply decedent. The Muslim World is in serious denial about it's problems. China is a time bomb. India, stagnating. Blaming US is such an easy out, it is not even funny.

The US military's invasions and occupations of the Muslim world has created the greatest refugee flow since the end of WWII; I seriously doubt many Muslims are in denial about the effects of "shock and awe" on local mortality/migration rates.

The Chinese system while far from perfect has an impressive track record for sustaining long term growth and development. While the US manufacturing base was hollowed out under the "free market" scam perpetrated by Reagan and Thatcher, China was systematically building its own manufacturing base and investing heavily in infrastructure and emerging technologies with credit generated by its own state-owned banks.

If you're expecting China to collapse of its own weight as the Soviets did, you will likely see the end of the US dollar as a global reserve currency long before China agrees to revert to its current colonial status.

The Best Books on The Opium War | Five Books Expert Recommendations

I love the way you refuse to put any responsibility for the way things are, on anyone except the US.

Is that racism because you consider nonwhite people too stupid to be held responsible for their actions or is it just your hate for America?


Regardless my point stands. You want to reduce military spending you need to make the point that we are not in danger.


You still are not even trying to make that case.


What is end game that you want to see the US military nerfed?

I love the way you refuse to put any responsibility for the way things are, on anyone except the US.

What other country besides the US has controlled the global economy since the end of WWII? Which nation created the IMF and World Bank to function as its proxy? Which state insists other countries invest their balance-of-payments inflows and central bank savings in US dollars, especially US Treasuries? How else does the Greatest Purveyor of Violence in the World afford its 800 military bases around the world?

Why does the US have 800 military bases in 80 Countries around the world? - Fighter Jets World

1. The US does not control the world economy. We are in a very bad situation in the world economy. Our trade balance is not sustainable.

2. I dont' know that the IMF, or the World Bank functions as our proxy.

3. I don't think that we do insist that other nations invest in dollars. IN fact, imo, the fact that the Dollar is the world currency is a massive burden on US.

4. Our military is paid for by the most successful economy in the world, built on internal freedom and economic nationalism, in the past.

5. And even if you were right on ALL of that, it still is not an excuse to give all nonwhite people a pass on responsibility for their actions.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Fraud and waste are not reasons to cut military spending. Fraud and waste are always part of government programs.


If you want to cut military spending, you need to make the case that we are not in danger.


That you did not try that, is pretty telling.


YOu really want to cut military spending, even though you know we are in danger?

Fraud and waste are not reasons to cut military spending. Fraud and waste are always part of government programs.


If you want to cut military spending, you need to make the case that we are not in danger.


That you did not try that, is pretty telling.


YOu really want to cut military spending, even though you know we are in danger?

We're in far more danger from a deodorized, truncated conversation about the reality of the US presence on this planet.

Are you aware an increasing percentage of the world regards the USA as the foremost threat to global survival?

As MLK said those bombs dropped in foreign lands detonate in their homeland as well.

When sixty cents of every tax dollar go to propping up the US Empire, issues like universal healthcare, catastrophic climate change, and a living wage are suffocated by hysterical drama queens who a terrified by anyone without a white skin.

Poll: Top Threats Facing the World in 2019, US Moving Up The List - Citizen Truth

1. Love to have that conversation. I note you didn't address my question to you, as to what ideas on your side of the aisle might be a manifestation of that magical thinking you are worried about. Do you consider yourself and your allies immune to the ills of the society and culture you are a part of? That is not a serious position, and greatly undermines your claim to want a real conversation.

2. The world is pretty fucked up. The West as a whole is deeply decedent. The Muslim World is in serious denial about it's problems. China is a time bomb. India, stagnating. Blaming US is such an easy out, it is not even funny.

3. MLK, said a lot of shit. His words do not have much weight with me, beyond their own internal logic, or lack there of. YOu want to make a point, MAKE IT.

4. Your 60 cents number is a lie. Your race baiting is a lie, designed to hide your real agenda.

5. What is your vision of the future, that you think is served by nerfing the US military?

The world is pretty fucked up. The West as a whole is deeply decedent. The Muslim World is in serious denial about it's problems. China is a time bomb. India, stagnating. Blaming US is such an easy out, it is not even funny.

The US military's invasions and occupations of the Muslim world has created the greatest refugee flow since the end of WWII; I seriously doubt many Muslims are in denial about the effects of "shock and awe" on local mortality/migration rates.

The Chinese system while far from perfect has an impressive track record for sustaining long term growth and development. While the US manufacturing base was hollowed out under the "free market" scam perpetrated by Reagan and Thatcher, China was systematically building its own manufacturing base and investing heavily in infrastructure and emerging technologies with credit generated by its own state-owned banks.

If you're expecting China to collapse of its own weight as the Soviets did, you will likely see the end of the US dollar as a global reserve currency long before China agrees to revert to its current colonial status.

The Best Books on The Opium War | Five Books Expert Recommendations

I love the way you refuse to put any responsibility for the way things are, on anyone except the US.

Is that racism because you consider nonwhite people too stupid to be held responsible for their actions or is it just your hate for America?


Regardless my point stands. You want to reduce military spending you need to make the point that we are not in danger.


You still are not even trying to make that case.


What is end game that you want to see the US military nerfed?

I love the way you refuse to put any responsibility for the way things are, on anyone except the US.

What other country besides the US has controlled the global economy since the end of WWII? Which nation created the IMF and World Bank to function as its proxy? Which state insists other countries invest their balance-of-payments inflows and central bank savings in US dollars, especially US Treasuries? How else does the Greatest Purveyor of Violence in the World afford its 800 military bases around the world?

Why does the US have 800 military bases in 80 Countries around the world? - Fighter Jets World

Which state insists other countries invest their balance-of-payments inflows and central bank savings in US dollars, especially US Treasuries?

If other countries want to invest their reserves in Russian or Venezuelan currency, they are free to do so.

 

[badger2]

OP asked about capitalism and morality, so we may as well start to fill the file:

'You argue that a major shift in political economic practices, such as neoliberalism, could not come about -- at least in democracies like the U.S. and United Kingdom -- without some degree of consent, not just from traditional elites but also the middle classes. How was this consent engendered in the 1970s?

DH: There was a concerted program that worked at a number of levels. To me, the beginning point was a memo that Lewis Powell, who had became a Supreme Court justice shortly afterwards, sent to the American Chamber of Commerce in 1971. What he said, in effect, was that the anti-business climate of this country has gone too far, we need a collective effort to try to turn it around. After that we see the formation of a whole set of think tanks, the massing of money by various organizations to try to influence public policy and to do it through the media, dio it through think tanks.

We also see the formation in 1972 of something called the Business Roundtable, which was a very influential organization. They were very concerned to try to roll back that legislation which had emerged during the 1960s and early 1970s that set up things like the Environmental Protection Agency, OSHA, consumer protection, and all of those sorts of things. And of course they gained considerable influence in the press through the Wall Street Journal and business pages and business schools and the like, and through their think tanks they started to influence public opinion. But then they also needed to get hold of the political process. This was a very interesting process where the Political Action Committee that got set up in the 1970s were very active and there was a tremendous formation of them and they started to get together collectively to fund the Republican Party.

So what we see is the corporate takeover of the Republican Party along neoliberal lines, conservative lines, rather than the liberal Republicans like the Rockefellers, who were the old-style Republicans. There was a takeover by Reagan and people like that in the 1970s of the Republican Party. But then the Republican Party needed a mass base and one of the things that then happened was that they turned to the Christian Right. Remember it was Jerry Falwell in 1978 who formed the Moral Majority. There was a coalition that then emerged, a popular base amongst the evangelical Christians on the one hand and then tremendous corporate funding of the political process on the other hand, which made the Republican Party solidly behind the neoliberal agenda.'
(Lilley S, Capital and Its Discontents: Conversations with Radical Thinkers in a Time of Tumult, 2011, pp. 46-7)

We see how religious belief accelerated this fascist process due to its inherent culpability, a culpability that leads to crimes.

 

[badger2]

Keep A Little Bit Of Territory Available At All Times, Or You'll Go Nuts (A Thousand Plateaus)

Whomever wrote the manifesto, it laments of infiltration of "my beloved Texas." This territoriality will link to militarism, Mexico and the IMF via the Roman model and economic hitmen:

'The Roman Empire is probably the first really to be grounded in the acquisition of private property. The reason I called the Roman Empire and empire of property is because, first of all, it was responding to the interests of private propertied classes in ways quite different, for example, from empires like the Chinese, where private property was well developed but where the imperial state was a primary mode of appropriation for officeholders and the main source of great wealth. In the Roman Empire we're talking about property in land as the principle source of power and the empire was constructed on that foundation. The republic that created this empire was basically an oligarchy of propertied classes and it was their interests that were being expressed in imperial expansion. And in fact, although they created an imperial state, the imperial state never became the primary source of wealth for the ruling classes. Property was always the objective, the sole reliable source of wealth, while the imperial state served as an instrument of appropriation indirectly by protecting and expanding private property. The Roman Empire was basically one big land-grabbing operation.

All the ruling classes enriched themselves big time. They also, to some extent, used imperial land to pacify their own peasant armies, whom they had basically been expropriating at home. But they also effectively created local propertied classes in their colonial territories, even in places where aristocracies of property hadn't existed before. So the empire was in a sense more a coalition of local landed aristocracies than an imperial state.
....
What was the chain of events that helped facilitate the process of developing countries becoming beholden to institutions like the IMF and the World Bank which dictated neoliberal policies -- starting with the OPEC oil crisis of the early 1970s and the petrodollars that were produced by those countries in the Middle East that had oil?

DH: ....With the OPEC oil price hike in 1973, a vast amount of money was being accumulated by the Saudis and other Gulf states. And then the big question was: well, what's going to happen to that money? Now, we do know that the U.S. government was very anxious that that money be brought back to New York, to be circulated back int the global economy via the New York investment banks, and persuaded the Saudis to do that. Why the Saudis were persuaded to do it remains a bit of a mystery. We kn ow from British intelligence sources that the U.S. was actually prepared to invade Saudi Arabia in 1973, but whether the Saudis were told: recycle the money through New York or you get invaded....who knows?
....
And so they started to make money available to to many countries like Argentina, Mexico -- Latin America was very popular -- but also places like Poland even. They lent a lot of money to those countries.

That worked out quite well for a while, but then in 1982 there was this general fiscal crisis, particularly after Volcker had raised the interest rate. What this meant was that the Mexicans who had borrowed money at 5 percent were now having to pay it back at 16 percent or 17 percent, and they found that they couldn't do it. Mexico was about to go bankrupt in 1982. That was the point at which neoliberalism kicked in. The U.S. via the International Monetary Fund and the U.S. Treasury said: we'll bail you out, but we'll bail you out on condition that you start to privatize and op up the country to foreign investment and start to adopt a neoliberal stance. Initially the Mexicans really didn't do that very much, but by the time you get to 1988 they start to do it big time.

But here's the interesting thing: it's unreasonable to think that actually the U.S. imposed neoliberalization on Mexico. What happened was that the U.S. was putting neoliberalizing pressures on Mexico and an elite inside of Mexico seized the opportunity to say: yes, that's what we want. So it was a coalition between the elite in Mexico and the U.S. Treasury/IMF that put together the kind of neoliberalization package that came to Mexico in the late 1980s. And actually, if you look at the pattern, it's very rare for there to be a straight imposition of neoliberalizing policies through the IMF or the U.S. It's nearly always an alliance between an internal elite, as it had been in Chile, and U.S. forces that put this thing together. And it's the internal elite who are as much to blame for neoliberalization as the international institutions.'
(Lilley, op cit pp. 30 & 50)

 

[georgephillip]

We're in far more danger from a deodorized, truncated conversation about the reality of the US presence on this planet.

Are you aware an increasing percentage of the world regards the USA as the foremost threat to global survival?

As MLK said those bombs dropped in foreign lands detonate in their homeland as well.

When sixty cents of every tax dollar go to propping up the US Empire, issues like universal healthcare, catastrophic climate change, and a living wage are suffocated by hysterical drama queens who a terrified by anyone without a white skin.

Poll: Top Threats Facing the World in 2019, US Moving Up The List - Citizen Truth

1. Love to have that conversation. I note you didn't address my question to you, as to what ideas on your side of the aisle might be a manifestation of that magical thinking you are worried about. Do you consider yourself and your allies immune to the ills of the society and culture you are a part of? That is not a serious position, and greatly undermines your claim to want a real conversation.

2. The world is pretty fucked up. The West as a whole is deeply decedent. The Muslim World is in serious denial about it's problems. China is a time bomb. India, stagnating. Blaming US is such an easy out, it is not even funny.

3. MLK, said a lot of shit. His words do not have much weight with me, beyond their own internal logic, or lack there of. YOu want to make a point, MAKE IT.

4. Your 60 cents number is a lie. Your race baiting is a lie, designed to hide your real agenda.

5. What is your vision of the future, that you think is served by nerfing the US military?

The world is pretty fucked up. The West as a whole is deeply decedent. The Muslim World is in serious denial about it's problems. China is a time bomb. India, stagnating. Blaming US is such an easy out, it is not even funny.

The US military's invasions and occupations of the Muslim world has created the greatest refugee flow since the end of WWII; I seriously doubt many Muslims are in denial about the effects of "shock and awe" on local mortality/migration rates.

The Chinese system while far from perfect has an impressive track record for sustaining long term growth and development. While the US manufacturing base was hollowed out under the "free market" scam perpetrated by Reagan and Thatcher, China was systematically building its own manufacturing base and investing heavily in infrastructure and emerging technologies with credit generated by its own state-owned banks.

If you're expecting China to collapse of its own weight as the Soviets did, you will likely see the end of the US dollar as a global reserve currency long before China agrees to revert to its current colonial status.

The Best Books on The Opium War | Five Books Expert Recommendations

I love the way you refuse to put any responsibility for the way things are, on anyone except the US.

Is that racism because you consider nonwhite people too stupid to be held responsible for their actions or is it just your hate for America?


Regardless my point stands. You want to reduce military spending you need to make the point that we are not in danger.


You still are not even trying to make that case.


What is end game that you want to see the US military nerfed?

I love the way you refuse to put any responsibility for the way things are, on anyone except the US.

What other country besides the US has controlled the global economy since the end of WWII? Which nation created the IMF and World Bank to function as its proxy? Which state insists other countries invest their balance-of-payments inflows and central bank savings in US dollars, especially US Treasuries? How else does the Greatest Purveyor of Violence in the World afford its 800 military bases around the world?

Why does the US have 800 military bases in 80 Countries around the world? - Fighter Jets World

Which state insists other countries invest their balance-of-payments inflows and central bank savings in US dollars, especially US Treasuries?

If other countries want to invest their reserves in Russian or Venezuelan currency, they are free to do so.

If other countries want to invest their reserves in Russian or Venezuelan currency, they are free to do so

Not unless they want to abandon the US dollar and create their own financial system.

The Lubricant Of The Global Financial System Is Not Working Anymore

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

1. Love to have that conversation. I note you didn't address my question to you, as to what ideas on your side of the aisle might be a manifestation of that magical thinking you are worried about. Do you consider yourself and your allies immune to the ills of the society and culture you are a part of? That is not a serious position, and greatly undermines your claim to want a real conversation.

2. The world is pretty fucked up. The West as a whole is deeply decedent. The Muslim World is in serious denial about it's problems. China is a time bomb. India, stagnating. Blaming US is such an easy out, it is not even funny.

3. MLK, said a lot of shit. His words do not have much weight with me, beyond their own internal logic, or lack there of. YOu want to make a point, MAKE IT.

4. Your 60 cents number is a lie. Your race baiting is a lie, designed to hide your real agenda.

5. What is your vision of the future, that you think is served by nerfing the US military?

The world is pretty fucked up. The West as a whole is deeply decedent. The Muslim World is in serious denial about it's problems. China is a time bomb. India, stagnating. Blaming US is such an easy out, it is not even funny.

The US military's invasions and occupations of the Muslim world has created the greatest refugee flow since the end of WWII; I seriously doubt many Muslims are in denial about the effects of "shock and awe" on local mortality/migration rates.

The Chinese system while far from perfect has an impressive track record for sustaining long term growth and development. While the US manufacturing base was hollowed out under the "free market" scam perpetrated by Reagan and Thatcher, China was systematically building its own manufacturing base and investing heavily in infrastructure and emerging technologies with credit generated by its own state-owned banks.

If you're expecting China to collapse of its own weight as the Soviets did, you will likely see the end of the US dollar as a global reserve currency long before China agrees to revert to its current colonial status.

The Best Books on The Opium War | Five Books Expert Recommendations

I love the way you refuse to put any responsibility for the way things are, on anyone except the US.

Is that racism because you consider nonwhite people too stupid to be held responsible for their actions or is it just your hate for America?


Regardless my point stands. You want to reduce military spending you need to make the point that we are not in danger.


You still are not even trying to make that case.


What is end game that you want to see the US military nerfed?

I love the way you refuse to put any responsibility for the way things are, on anyone except the US.

What other country besides the US has controlled the global economy since the end of WWII? Which nation created the IMF and World Bank to function as its proxy? Which state insists other countries invest their balance-of-payments inflows and central bank savings in US dollars, especially US Treasuries? How else does the Greatest Purveyor of Violence in the World afford its 800 military bases around the world?

Why does the US have 800 military bases in 80 Countries around the world? - Fighter Jets World

Which state insists other countries invest their balance-of-payments inflows and central bank savings in US dollars, especially US Treasuries?

If other countries want to invest their reserves in Russian or Venezuelan currency, they are free to do so.

If other countries want to invest their reserves in Russian or Venezuelan currency, they are free to do so

Not unless they want to abandon the US dollar and create their own financial system.

The Lubricant Of The Global Financial System Is Not Working Anymore

Wait, there are advantages to using dollars? You're fucking kidding me.

 

[georgephillip]

We're in far more danger from a deodorized, truncated conversation about the reality of the US presence on this planet.

Are you aware an increasing percentage of the world regards the USA as the foremost threat to global survival?

As MLK said those bombs dropped in foreign lands detonate in their homeland as well.

When sixty cents of every tax dollar go to propping up the US Empire, issues like universal healthcare, catastrophic climate change, and a living wage are suffocated by hysterical drama queens who a terrified by anyone without a white skin.

Poll: Top Threats Facing the World in 2019, US Moving Up The List - Citizen Truth

1. Love to have that conversation. I note you didn't address my question to you, as to what ideas on your side of the aisle might be a manifestation of that magical thinking you are worried about. Do you consider yourself and your allies immune to the ills of the society and culture you are a part of? That is not a serious position, and greatly undermines your claim to want a real conversation.

2. The world is pretty fucked up. The West as a whole is deeply decedent. The Muslim World is in serious denial about it's problems. China is a time bomb. India, stagnating. Blaming US is such an easy out, it is not even funny.

3. MLK, said a lot of shit. His words do not have much weight with me, beyond their own internal logic, or lack there of. YOu want to make a point, MAKE IT.

4. Your 60 cents number is a lie. Your race baiting is a lie, designed to hide your real agenda.

5. What is your vision of the future, that you think is served by nerfing the US military?

The world is pretty fucked up. The West as a whole is deeply decedent. The Muslim World is in serious denial about it's problems. China is a time bomb. India, stagnating. Blaming US is such an easy out, it is not even funny.

The US military's invasions and occupations of the Muslim world has created the greatest refugee flow since the end of WWII; I seriously doubt many Muslims are in denial about the effects of "shock and awe" on local mortality/migration rates.

The Chinese system while far from perfect has an impressive track record for sustaining long term growth and development. While the US manufacturing base was hollowed out under the "free market" scam perpetrated by Reagan and Thatcher, China was systematically building its own manufacturing base and investing heavily in infrastructure and emerging technologies with credit generated by its own state-owned banks.

If you're expecting China to collapse of its own weight as the Soviets did, you will likely see the end of the US dollar as a global reserve currency long before China agrees to revert to its current colonial status.

The Best Books on The Opium War | Five Books Expert Recommendations

I love the way you refuse to put any responsibility for the way things are, on anyone except the US.

Is that racism because you consider nonwhite people too stupid to be held responsible for their actions or is it just your hate for America?


Regardless my point stands. You want to reduce military spending you need to make the point that we are not in danger.


You still are not even trying to make that case.


What is end game that you want to see the US military nerfed?

I love the way you refuse to put any responsibility for the way things are, on anyone except the US.

What other country besides the US has controlled the global economy since the end of WWII? Which nation created the IMF and World Bank to function as its proxy? Which state insists other countries invest their balance-of-payments inflows and central bank savings in US dollars, especially US Treasuries? How else does the Greatest Purveyor of Violence in the World afford its 800 military bases around the world?

Why does the US have 800 military bases in 80 Countries around the world? - Fighter Jets World

1. The US does not control the world economy. We are in a very bad situation in the world economy. Our trade balance is not sustainable.

2. I dont' know that the IMF, or the World Bank functions as our proxy.

3. I don't think that we do insist that other nations invest in dollars. IN fact, imo, the fact that the Dollar is the world currency is a massive burden on US.

4. Our military is paid for by the most successful economy in the world, built on internal freedom and economic nationalism, in the past.

5. And even if you were right on ALL of that, it still is not an excuse to give all nonwhite people a pass on responsibility for their actions.

1. The US does not control the world economy. We are in a very bad situation in the world economy. Our trade balance is not sustainable.

2. I dont' know that the IMF, or the World Bank functions as our proxy.

3. I don't think that we do insist that other nations invest in dollars. IN fact, imo, the fact that the Dollar is the world currency is a massive burden on US.

Since 1971 the US Treasury-bond has replaced gold as the global standard for central bank reserves.

That means a glut of US dollars collecting in central banks around the world finances both the US trade deficit and the US budget deficit.

The 800 US military bases around the planet are there to ensure the tribute continues to flow into American pockets.

https://michael-hudson.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/superimperialism.pdf (P.3)

"This Treasury-bond standard of international finance has enabled the United States to obtain the largest free lunch ever achieved in history.

"America has turned the international financial system upside down.

"Whereas formerly it rested on gold, central bank reserves are now held in the form of U.S. Government IOUs that can be run up without limit.

"In effect, America has been buying up Europe, Asia and other regions with paper credit – U.S. Treasury IOUs that it has informed the world it has little intention of ever paying off.

" And there is little Europe or Asia can do about it, except to abandon the dollar and create their own financial system.

"Michael Hudson’s Super Imperialism: The Origins and Fundamentals of U.S. World Dominance explains how the dollar’s being forced off gold in 1971 led to a new international financial system in which the world’s central banks are obliged to finance the U.S. balance of payments deficit by using their surplus dollars in the only way that central banks are allowed to use them: to buy U.S. Treasury bonds.

"In the process, they finance the U.S. Government’s domestic budget deficit as well."

 

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The US military's invasions and occupations of the Muslim world has created the greatest refugee flow since the end of WWII; I seriously doubt many Muslims are in denial about the effects of "shock and awe" on local mortality/migration rates.

The Chinese system while far from perfect has an impressive track record for sustaining long term growth and development. While the US manufacturing base was hollowed out under the "free market" scam perpetrated by Reagan and Thatcher, China was systematically building its own manufacturing base and investing heavily in infrastructure and emerging technologies with credit generated by its own state-owned banks.

If you're expecting China to collapse of its own weight as the Soviets did, you will likely see the end of the US dollar as a global reserve currency long before China agrees to revert to its current colonial status.

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I love the way you refuse to put any responsibility for the way things are, on anyone except the US.

Is that racism because you consider nonwhite people too stupid to be held responsible for their actions or is it just your hate for America?


Regardless my point stands. You want to reduce military spending you need to make the point that we are not in danger.


You still are not even trying to make that case.


What is end game that you want to see the US military nerfed?

I love the way you refuse to put any responsibility for the way things are, on anyone except the US.

What other country besides the US has controlled the global economy since the end of WWII? Which nation created the IMF and World Bank to function as its proxy? Which state insists other countries invest their balance-of-payments inflows and central bank savings in US dollars, especially US Treasuries? How else does the Greatest Purveyor of Violence in the World afford its 800 military bases around the world?

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Which state insists other countries invest their balance-of-payments inflows and central bank savings in US dollars, especially US Treasuries?

If other countries want to invest their reserves in Russian or Venezuelan currency, they are free to do so.

If other countries want to invest their reserves in Russian or Venezuelan currency, they are free to do so

Not unless they want to abandon the US dollar and create their own financial system.

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Wait, there are advantages to using dollars? You're fucking kidding me.

Wait, there are advantages to using dollars? You're fucking kidding me.

There appear to be some terminal disadvantages to NOT using US dollars:

Petrodollar warfare - Wikipedia