Minimum wage

[danielpalos]

Only the right wing, never gets it. It is about privatizing costs not socializing costs.

if you would take responsibility for yourself then there would be no socialization of costs as you would pay your own way

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage starts the privatization ball rolling.

no you paying for yourself does that,

If you can't do it with one job then work 2 jobs that's how I did it when I was younger. If you put half the energy you use whining into actually improving your skill set you'd be making way over 15 an hour

only the right is that cognitively dissonant. a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage means more money will be spent by labor.

it means everything will cost more at every level and that pay raise will do nothing for them and those across the board price raises will decrease the purchasing power of everyone else who didn't get a raise

only lousy capitalists say that; Henry Ford doubled autoworker wages, not minimum wages; and lowered costs.

 

[Skull Pilot]

yet, the cognitively dissonant right wing, claims we need nationalism and socialism when it comes to freedom of association and Contract in our at-will employment States when it comes to hiring people from out of State.

no we need lazy fucks like you to stop whining and start paying your own way

it takes money; only the right, never gets it.

And how do you get money?

Oh yeah you shut the fuck up and get a fucking job

a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage; silly. only the right, never gets it.

It doesn't matter what the MW is what matters is what your skills are worth

So improve your skills then your pay will improve

 

[Skull Pilot]

if you would take responsibility for yourself then there would be no socialization of costs as you would pay your own way

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage starts the privatization ball rolling.

no you paying for yourself does that,

If you can't do it with one job then work 2 jobs that's how I did it when I was younger. If you put half the energy you use whining into actually improving your skill set you'd be making way over 15 an hour

only the right is that cognitively dissonant. a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage means more money will be spent by labor.

it means everything will cost more at every level and that pay raise will do nothing for them and those across the board price raises will decrease the purchasing power of everyone else who didn't get a raise

only lousy capitalists say that; Henry Ford doubled autoworker wages, not minimum wages; and lowered costs.

you cannot compare one employer to a national MW it's an apples to orangutans comparison

 

[Auld Phart]

Like I said, both far too high

why do you believe that?

already covered that.

No you didn't.

However, after the Great Recession which started in 2007, the share of total wealth owned by the top 1% of the population grew from 35% to 37%, and that owned by the top 20% of Americans grew from 85% to 88%. The Great Recession also caused a drop of 36% in median household wealth but a drop of only 11% for the top 1%, further widening the gap between the top 1% and the bottom 99%.[14][16][17] According to PolitiFact and others, in 2011 the 400 wealthiest Americans "have more wealth than half of all Americans combined."[18][19] Inherited wealth may help explain why many Americans who have become rich may have had a "substantial head start".[20][21] In September 2012, according to the Institute for Policy Studies, "over 60 percent" of the Forbes richest 400 Americans "grew up in substantial privilege".--https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States#Statistics

why do you believe that for the poor?

Yes, I did

Post #170

"Minimum wage is for entry level jobs. If you want to make more, give your employer a reason to pay you more.

Why would anyone want to get off unemployment, if they are making the same as entry level employees?"

You make too much during alleged times of war.

I make too much?

I've been retired for 25 years from the military, and 10 years from my last job.

Do you have ANY idea what you're talking about?

 

[danielpalos]

yet, the cognitively dissonant right wing, claims we need nationalism and socialism when it comes to freedom of association and Contract in our at-will employment States when it comes to hiring people from out of State.

no we need lazy fucks like you to stop whining and start paying your own way

it takes money; only the right, never gets it.

And how do you get money?

Oh yeah you shut the fuck up and get a fucking job

a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage; silly. only the right, never gets it.

It doesn't matter what the MW is what matters is what your skills are worth

So improve your skills then your pay will improve

social services pay the equivalent to fourteen dollars an hour under our form of capitalism. it simply is not rational. only the right, never gets it.

 

[danielpalos]

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage starts the privatization ball rolling.

no you paying for yourself does that,

If you can't do it with one job then work 2 jobs that's how I did it when I was younger. If you put half the energy you use whining into actually improving your skill set you'd be making way over 15 an hour

only the right is that cognitively dissonant. a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage means more money will be spent by labor.

it means everything will cost more at every level and that pay raise will do nothing for them and those across the board price raises will decrease the purchasing power of everyone else who didn't get a raise

only lousy capitalists say that; Henry Ford doubled autoworker wages, not minimum wages; and lowered costs.

you cannot compare one employer to a national MW it's an apples to orangutans comparison

one anecdote deserves another. only lousy capitalists cannot emulate Henry Fords historical example.

 

[Skull Pilot]

IOW you want to be paid for sitting on your ass at mommy's house

why do you care? should the poor care how much the rich make even without a work ethic from the Age of Iron?

I care because I'll be one of the ones paying you to sit on your ass and jerk off all day

you are welcome to quit and collect unemployment since I am not paying you to whine about how little i work for my pay.

why would I take a huge income cut? You might be happy with 15 an hour but I sure as fuck am not

you seem to be whining more than me.

i'm not the one saying I want everyone else to support me

That's all you

 

[danielpalos]

why do you believe that?

already covered that.

No you didn't.

However, after the Great Recession which started in 2007, the share of total wealth owned by the top 1% of the population grew from 35% to 37%, and that owned by the top 20% of Americans grew from 85% to 88%. The Great Recession also caused a drop of 36% in median household wealth but a drop of only 11% for the top 1%, further widening the gap between the top 1% and the bottom 99%.[14][16][17] According to PolitiFact and others, in 2011 the 400 wealthiest Americans "have more wealth than half of all Americans combined."[18][19] Inherited wealth may help explain why many Americans who have become rich may have had a "substantial head start".[20][21] In September 2012, according to the Institute for Policy Studies, "over 60 percent" of the Forbes richest 400 Americans "grew up in substantial privilege".--https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States#Statistics

why do you believe that for the poor?

Yes, I did

Post #170

"Minimum wage is for entry level jobs. If you want to make more, give your employer a reason to pay you more.

Why would anyone want to get off unemployment, if they are making the same as entry level employees?"

You make too much during alleged times of war.

I make too much?

I've been retired for 25 years from the military, and 10 years from my last job.

Do you have ANY idea what you're talking about?

Capitalists make too much during alleged times of war, if not you. Why only blame the poor.

 

[Auld Phart]

no we need lazy fucks like you to stop whining and start paying your own way

it takes money; only the right, never gets it.

And how do you get money?

Oh yeah you shut the fuck up and get a fucking job

a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage; silly. only the right, never gets it.

It doesn't matter what the MW is what matters is what your skills are worth

So improve your skills then your pay will improve

social services pay the equivalent to fourteen dollars an hour under our form of capitalism. it simply is not rational. only the right, never gets it.

You're right, it isn't ratonal

Neither is $15 an hour for minimum wage.

 

[Skull Pilot]

no you paying for yourself does that,

If you can't do it with one job then work 2 jobs that's how I did it when I was younger. If you put half the energy you use whining into actually improving your skill set you'd be making way over 15 an hour

only the right is that cognitively dissonant. a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage means more money will be spent by labor.

it means everything will cost more at every level and that pay raise will do nothing for them and those across the board price raises will decrease the purchasing power of everyone else who didn't get a raise

only lousy capitalists say that; Henry Ford doubled autoworker wages, not minimum wages; and lowered costs.

you cannot compare one employer to a national MW it's an apples to orangutans comparison

one anecdote deserves another. only lousy capitalists cannot emulate Henry Fords historical example.

do you know the difference between an anecdote and an analogy?

And you wonder why you can't get a good paying job

 

[danielpalos]

why do you care? should the poor care how much the rich make even without a work ethic from the Age of Iron?

I care because I'll be one of the ones paying you to sit on your ass and jerk off all day

you are welcome to quit and collect unemployment since I am not paying you to whine about how little i work for my pay.

why would I take a huge income cut? You might be happy with 15 an hour but I sure as fuck am not

you seem to be whining more than me.

i'm not the one saying I want everyone else to support me

That's all you

i would not be whining about it, if i were making decent money. you need to go on unemployment since you are not getting paid to whine about what other people make, or don't make.

 

[danielpalos]

it takes money; only the right, never gets it.

And how do you get money?

Oh yeah you shut the fuck up and get a fucking job

a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage; silly. only the right, never gets it.

It doesn't matter what the MW is what matters is what your skills are worth

So improve your skills then your pay will improve

social services pay the equivalent to fourteen dollars an hour under our form of capitalism. it simply is not rational. only the right, never gets it.

You're right, it isn't ratonal

Neither is $15 an hour for minimum wage.

social services pay the equivalent to fourteen dollars an hour under our form of capitalism. capitalism requires competition. only the right, never gets it.

 

[danielpalos]

only the right is that cognitively dissonant. a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage means more money will be spent by labor.

it means everything will cost more at every level and that pay raise will do nothing for them and those across the board price raises will decrease the purchasing power of everyone else who didn't get a raise

only lousy capitalists say that; Henry Ford doubled autoworker wages, not minimum wages; and lowered costs.

you cannot compare one employer to a national MW it's an apples to orangutans comparison

one anecdote deserves another. only lousy capitalists cannot emulate Henry Fords historical example.

do you know the difference between an anecdote and an analogy?

And you wonder why you can't get a good paying job

you only have fallacy; that "proves" it is only crony capitalism.

 

[Auld Phart]

Tired of parrots



(you only need to watch the first 30 seconds)

 

[danielpalos]

i practice arguing, just for fun.

 

[dblack]

i practice arguing, just for fun.

That asplains it.

 

[danielpalos]

i practice arguing, just for fun.

That asplains it.

a good argument is the way to Happiness.

 

[Skull Pilot]

it means everything will cost more at every level and that pay raise will do nothing for them and those across the board price raises will decrease the purchasing power of everyone else who didn't get a raise

only lousy capitalists say that; Henry Ford doubled autoworker wages, not minimum wages; and lowered costs.

you cannot compare one employer to a national MW it's an apples to orangutans comparison

one anecdote deserves another. only lousy capitalists cannot emulate Henry Fords historical example.

do you know the difference between an anecdote and an analogy?

And you wonder why you can't get a good paying job

you only have fallacy; that "proves" it is only crony capitalism.

if you don't like the idea of working for someone else then start your own fucking business. But you won't because you don't want to be responsible for your own success or failure

At least there are more people in this country who will work who want to work and still have the integrity and self worth not to want to have others support them than there are lazy fucking leeches like you

 

[danielpalos]

only lousy capitalists say that; Henry Ford doubled autoworker wages, not minimum wages; and lowered costs.

you cannot compare one employer to a national MW it's an apples to orangutans comparison

one anecdote deserves another. only lousy capitalists cannot emulate Henry Fords historical example.

do you know the difference between an anecdote and an analogy?

And you wonder why you can't get a good paying job

you only have fallacy; that "proves" it is only crony capitalism.

if you don't like the idea of working for someone else then start your own fucking business. But you won't because you don't want to be responsible for your own success or failure

At least there are more people in this country who will work who want to work and still have the integrity and self worth not to want to have others support them than there are lazy fucking leeches like you

everyone is responsible for their success or failure; not everyone can get bailout from daddy or Uncle Sam.

the only lazy leaches, are the ones with nothing but fallacy instead of the hard work required for an argument.

 

[Skull Pilot]

you cannot compare one employer to a national MW it's an apples to orangutans comparison

one anecdote deserves another. only lousy capitalists cannot emulate Henry Fords historical example.

do you know the difference between an anecdote and an analogy?

And you wonder why you can't get a good paying job

you only have fallacy; that "proves" it is only crony capitalism.

if you don't like the idea of working for someone else then start your own fucking business. But you won't because you don't want to be responsible for your own success or failure

At least there are more people in this country who will work who want to work and still have the integrity and self worth not to want to have others support them than there are lazy fucking leeches like you

everyone is responsible for their success or failure; not everyone can get bailout from daddy or Uncle Sam.

the only lazy leaches, are the ones with nothing but fallacy instead of the hard work required for an argument.

that's exactly what you want.

You want us to make it possible for you never to work again by giving you almost 30K a year for choosing not to work

you don't call that a bailout?

Tell you what since you still live with your mama have her pay you 14 an hour to dribble semen all over her couch