More than 20 dead after shooting at Sutherland Springs church

[Brain357]

What does that have to do with my post PISSMOE? Texas has the loosest gun laws yet this guy was able to kill 25 people and injure 10+ more and only got killed by the police later.

So many people said that if Las Vegas had looser gun laws the Vegas shooter wouldn't had been able to kill so many, today proved that argument is wrong.

Sounds like there were no armed citizens in the church. Unlike the church I occasionally go too

-Geaux

Glad to see at least one gun nutjob on this forum let's the point go over their head.

Many gun nutjobs argues the simple idea that a person has no idea who is carrying is a deterrent for mass shootings to occur. That was proven wrong today.

Clackamas Town Center shooting - Wikipedia

Interesting, great reason to limit magazine capacity:
Having attempted to reload his weapon and dropping three magazines,

Anyone familiar with weapons can reload quick enough to get around the magazine limit but I do agree it does give enough of a pause to attack if he fumbles.

Yes it does. And you don't need high capacity magazine for defense. But some people want the crazies as well armed as possible.

 

[Asclepias]

Glad to see at least one gun nutjob on this forum let's the point go over their head.

Many gun nutjobs argues the simple idea that a person has no idea who is carrying is a deterrent for mass shootings to occur. That was proven wrong today.

Clackamas Town Center shooting - Wikipedia

Interesting, great reason to limit magazine capacity:
Having attempted to reload his weapon and dropping three magazines,

Not at all. This type of thing is acceptable risk to live in America

-Geaux

Yes you want the crazies as well armed as possible, I get it. Thanks for all the dead.

99% of American gun owners are law abiding and never commit a crime with their weapons

-Geaux

How do you know that?

 

[MaryL]

Sutherland Springs Shooter confirmed dead, 27 dead, at least 30 innocent people hurt. Not information yet on the shooter. And NPR is fixated on gay suffrage, ironically given Harvey Milk was SHOT, but they chose to ignore breaking topics. Which is why I first responded.

Wtf?

WTF indeed, I was listening to NPR for over an hour after this outrage occurred. Not a peep out of them. Only reason I knew ABOUT any of this was because of breaking news posters on the USMB. KUDOS.

 

[Geaux4it]

Here's what's wrong with your post: It implies a causality that is FAKE and manipulative.

We know NOTHING about the shooter - but you immediately jump on the anti-gun bandwagon.

You're a hack, BIGLY SAD!

I never said any casualty is fake. I'm not totally anti-gun, but I do think the argument that we should have looser gun laws is wrong, and today proved those looser gun laws aren't the answer.

Here's REALITY: no law will prevent an evil person from harming others.

Bringing up Gun Laws is a pile of b'loney.

And yet these things don't happen regularly where there is good gun control. Go figure.

You are myopic and ignorant, hardly a surprise there.

You want to look at a real body counts? Try grokking Stalin or Mao's? Totalitarian governments, which favor the gun control you crave, are the deadliest murders in history.

DEATH BY GOVERNMENT: GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER

Yes people are getting slaughtered in Denmark and the UK as we speak.

I you were smart, you would move there since you find the risk to live here in America to high

-Geaux

 

[Brain357]

Glad to see at least one gun nutjob on this forum let's the point go over their head.

Many gun nutjobs argues the simple idea that a person has no idea who is carrying is a deterrent for mass shootings to occur. That was proven wrong today.

Clackamas Town Center shooting - Wikipedia

Interesting, great reason to limit magazine capacity:
Having attempted to reload his weapon and dropping three magazines,

Not at all. This type of thing is acceptable risk to live in America

-Geaux

Yes you want the crazies as well armed as possible, I get it. Thanks for all the dead.

99% of American gun owners are law abiding and never commit a crime with their weapons

-Geaux

That didn't help today. Or in Vegas. Or Orlando....

 

[boedicca]

Here's what's wrong with your post: It implies a causality that is FAKE and manipulative.

We know NOTHING about the shooter - but you immediately jump on the anti-gun bandwagon.

You're a hack, BIGLY SAD!

I never said any casualty is fake. I'm not totally anti-gun, but I do think the argument that we should have looser gun laws is wrong, and today proved those looser gun laws aren't the answer.

Here's REALITY: no law will prevent an evil person from harming others.

Bringing up Gun Laws is a pile of b'loney.

And yet these things don't happen regularly where there is good gun control. Go figure.

You are myopic and ignorant, hardly a surprise there.

You want to look at a real body counts? Try grokking Stalin or Mao's? Totalitarian governments, which favor the gun control you crave, are the deadliest murders in history.

DEATH BY GOVERNMENT: GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER

Yes people are getting slaughtered in Denmark and the UK as we speak.

You clearly aren't paying much attention to what is happening in Europe these days, SAD! little knigget.

 

[Geaux4it]

Clackamas Town Center shooting - Wikipedia

Interesting, great reason to limit magazine capacity:
Having attempted to reload his weapon and dropping three magazines,

Not at all. This type of thing is acceptable risk to live in America

-Geaux

Yes you want the crazies as well armed as possible, I get it. Thanks for all the dead.

99% of American gun owners are law abiding and never commit a crime with their weapons

-Geaux

How do you know that?

Simple math

-Geaux

 

[TemplarKormac]

----------------------------- CONCEALED CARRY , if done properly no one knows Who is carrying a gun Lew .

What does that have to do with my post PISSMOE? Texas has the loosest gun laws yet this guy was able to kill 25 people and injure 10+ more and only got killed by the police later.

So many people said that if Las Vegas had looser gun laws the Vegas shooter wouldn't had been able to kill so many, today proved that argument is wrong.

Here's what's wrong with your post: It implies a causality that is FAKE and manipulative.

We know NOTHING about the shooter - but you immediately jump on the anti-gun bandwagon.

You're a hack, BIGLY SAD!

I never said any casualty is fake. I'm not totally anti-gun, but I do think the argument that we should have looser gun laws is wrong, and today proved those looser gun laws aren't the answer.

Here's REALITY: no law will prevent an evil person from harming others.

Bringing up Gun Laws is a pile of b'loney.

Yeah I'm sure it would have been much easier for the guy to run his truck through the church and kill all the innocent people... or I'm sure he could have killed 25 people and wounded 10+ more with a knife without getting stopped.

What this person fails to realize is that there is a ye olde adage...

"The gun doesn't shoot itself, nor does the sword unsheathe itself from the scabbard..."

Curious, does the gun imbue someone with the will to kill, or is that will to kill already there?

 

[Lewdog]

----------------------------- CONCEALED CARRY , if done properly no one knows Who is carrying a gun Lew .

What does that have to do with my post PISSMOE? Texas has the loosest gun laws yet this guy was able to kill 25 people and injure 10+ more and only got killed by the police later.

So many people said that if Las Vegas had looser gun laws the Vegas shooter wouldn't had been able to kill so many, today proved that argument is wrong.

Yes and Illinois has the toughest and that many die in Chicago every week. Stop acting stupidly.

Over 3,500 shootings in Chicago last year.

And?

25 killed in Texas today by one guy.

Thank you for proving my point. This was done by one evil guy, not gun laws.

No, it proves looser gun laws don't stop mass shootings.

Congrats!

 

[Asclepias]

Interesting, great reason to limit magazine capacity:
Having attempted to reload his weapon and dropping three magazines,

Not at all. This type of thing is acceptable risk to live in America

-Geaux

Yes you want the crazies as well armed as possible, I get it. Thanks for all the dead.

99% of American gun owners are law abiding and never commit a crime with their weapons

-Geaux

How do you know that?

Simple math

-Geaux

Sounded more like a guess. There is no possible way to know that.

 

[Geaux4it]

Clackamas Town Center shooting - Wikipedia

Interesting, great reason to limit magazine capacity:
Having attempted to reload his weapon and dropping three magazines,

Not at all. This type of thing is acceptable risk to live in America

-Geaux

Yes you want the crazies as well armed as possible, I get it. Thanks for all the dead.

99% of American gun owners are law abiding and never commit a crime with their weapons

-Geaux

That didn't help today. Or in Vegas. Or Orlando....

But it helped in the 12 cases I posted a link to above which you found funny

-Geaux

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

'Never let a tragedy go to waste.'
- Rhambo Emanuel

Congrats to liberals so far for showing restraint ... so far...

Not to worry, it won't take long.

I asked a friend of mine on Facebook if they restrict guns in churches there. He said that it's up to the town. Some do and some don't. But I'd be willing to bet it was a gun free zone. That's what the crazies look for these days.

 

[boedicca]

Sutherland Springs Shooter confirmed dead, 27 dead, at least 30 innocent people hurt. Not information yet on the shooter. And NPR is fixated on gay suffrage, ironically given Harvey Milk was SHOT, but they chose to ignore breaking topics. Which is why I first responded.

Wtf?

WTF indeed, I was listening to NPR for over an hour after this outrage occurred. Not a peep out of them. Only reason I knew ABOUT any of this was because of breaking news posters on the USMB. KUDOS.

NPR not mentioning the shooting is a tell that the victims are white.

 

[WillowTree]

Sutherland Springs Shooter confirmed dead, 27 dead, at least 30 innocent people hurt. Not information yet on the shooter. And NPR is fixated on gay suffrage, ironically given Harvey Milk was SHOT, but they chose to ignore breaking topics. Which is why I first responded.

Wtf?

WTF indeed, I was listening to NPR for over an hour after this outrage occurred. Not a peep out of them. Only reason I knew ABOUT any of this was because of breaking news posters on the USMB. KUDOS.

NPR . What were they whining about?

 

[boedicca]

What does that have to do with my post PISSMOE? Texas has the loosest gun laws yet this guy was able to kill 25 people and injure 10+ more and only got killed by the police later.

So many people said that if Las Vegas had looser gun laws the Vegas shooter wouldn't had been able to kill so many, today proved that argument is wrong.

Yes and Illinois has the toughest and that many die in Chicago every week. Stop acting stupidly.

Over 3,500 shootings in Chicago last year.

And?

25 killed in Texas today by one guy.

Thank you for proving my point. This was done by one evil guy, not gun laws.

No, it proves looser gun laws don't stop mass shootings.

Congrats!

Pure sophistry, but hardly a surprise that you post it.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

We still don’t know the motivation of the Vegas shooter, and it’s been over a month, right?

We might not know all the facts about this shooting within 2 hours of the event...just sayin.

Let's get this straight about the Vegas shooter. He was an older white male, that was a Trump supporter, and as I said in the initial thread, it was because he lost a bunch of money over the months before the shooting.

Any proof of his being a Trump supporter?

 

[Asclepias]

What does that have to do with my post PISSMOE? Texas has the loosest gun laws yet this guy was able to kill 25 people and injure 10+ more and only got killed by the police later.

So many people said that if Las Vegas had looser gun laws the Vegas shooter wouldn't had been able to kill so many, today proved that argument is wrong.

Yes and Illinois has the toughest and that many die in Chicago every week. Stop acting stupidly.

Over 3,500 shootings in Chicago last year.

And?

25 killed in Texas today by one guy.

Thank you for proving my point. This was done by one evil guy, not gun laws.

No, it proves looser gun laws don't stop mass shootings.

Congrats!

Agreed. Looser gun laws are stupid. Gun laws that take away the ability to protect oneself are also stupid. The problem is not really the guns its what is eating the sad sacks that use them to inflict mass casualties.

 

[Brain357]

I never said any casualty is fake. I'm not totally anti-gun, but I do think the argument that we should have looser gun laws is wrong, and today proved those looser gun laws aren't the answer.

Here's REALITY: no law will prevent an evil person from harming others.

Bringing up Gun Laws is a pile of b'loney.

And yet these things don't happen regularly where there is good gun control. Go figure.

You are myopic and ignorant, hardly a surprise there.

You want to look at a real body counts? Try grokking Stalin or Mao's? Totalitarian governments, which favor the gun control you crave, are the deadliest murders in history.

DEATH BY GOVERNMENT: GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER

Yes people are getting slaughtered in Denmark and the UK as we speak.

I you were smart, you would move there since you find the risk to live here in America to high

-Geaux

i'll keep trying to save lives here.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Here's REALITY: no law will prevent an evil person from harming others.

Bringing up Gun Laws is a pile of b'loney.

And yet these things don't happen regularly where there is good gun control. Go figure.

You are myopic and ignorant, hardly a surprise there.

You want to look at a real body counts? Try grokking Stalin or Mao's? Totalitarian governments, which favor the gun control you crave, are the deadliest murders in history.

DEATH BY GOVERNMENT: GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER

Yes people are getting slaughtered in Denmark and the UK as we speak.

I you were smart, you would move there since you find the risk to live here in America to high

-Geaux

i'll keep trying to save lives here.

Ha. Don't delude yourself.

 

[Brain357]

Interesting, great reason to limit magazine capacity:
Having attempted to reload his weapon and dropping three magazines,

Not at all. This type of thing is acceptable risk to live in America

-Geaux

Yes you want the crazies as well armed as possible, I get it. Thanks for all the dead.

99% of American gun owners are law abiding and never commit a crime with their weapons

-Geaux

That didn't help today. Or in Vegas. Or Orlando....

But it helped in the 12 cases I posted a link to above which you found funny

-Geaux

Those have been proven to be mostly bull. And nobody gets shot when there is no gun.