Musk in '24?

Would you vote to elect Elon Musk President of The (once) United States?


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Trump got into politics too late, his personality is hard-wired as a CEO.
He can't switch gears from hard-ass CEO to smooth politician.
Bill Clinton had the ability to tailor his speech for the specific audience to maximize votes.
Trump was a "bull in the China shop", like it or not, he didn't care, he just didn't get that every vote counted.
He alienated too many blocks that he could have won if he was a better actor at "being presidential". His 1st debate performance is the perfect example of alienating voters.

Elon is much smarter than Trump, much younger than Trump, and much smoother than Trump.
Elon could be a smooth politician by "acting presidential", and better than that, actually "being presidential".
Could be... Not sure how long he's been a CEO but when you get used to just barking orders and expecting people to follow suit, it's hard to switch gears to working with Congress, having opposition you can't simply fire or buy out or whatever.
Now why would Biden or Kamala be better than Elon as president?
Because they know the system, respect the system, and understand the the bottom line is not the only thing that matters.

Good to see an honest assessment of Trump from a blob supporter
 
Could be... Not sure how long he's been a CEO but when you get used to just barking orders and expecting people to follow suit, it's hard to switch gears to working with Congress, having opposition you can't simply fire or buy out or whatever.

Because they know the system, respect the system, and understand the the bottom line is not the only thing that matters.

Good to see an honest assessment of Trump from a blob supporter
Can you give an honest assessment of Biden? hmmm? :eusa_whistle:
 
1. Trump was not a disaster, Xiden is a disaster, with a 26% poll approval rating, and falling.
Trump was a disaster in every way, shape, and form.
2. The skill sets are not that different. Trump's business was his, he had no Board of Directors and shareholders to report to. Trump was "god" in his board room. That made his ego and judgment not perfect for being president. However, his business acumen was better at managing the US economy than "always wrong Joe" Biden, or the "Community Organizer".
Trump never had a corporation or a board.
3. Getting legislation passed is a function of math, how many Rs and Ds are in the House and Senate. Biden's BBB, and Green New Deal went nowhere. Biden got nothing passed unless it was bi-partisan either.
LOL. Yeah...this is why Biden got the stimulus, aid for Ukraine (he didn't try to extort the nation either), Infrastructure, the military pay raise. Trump? Not much and nothing after 2018.
4. Elon has boards of directors, so he doesn't have Trump's "god complex", Elon is a consensus builder, and one brilliant man who would do a great job as president, if he was not ineligible.
The only way he could be a success as President is to do the exact opposite of Trump. He won't be able to d that.
 
Gee...no one will answer if Elon is better than Trump.

Right wingers are such scared little children....
Better at what? Being President? Who knows. Maybe. I doubt he would be interested in the job even if he were eligible. The fact that you say with any certainty that he wouldn’t be better than our current President is silly.
 
Trump was a disaster in every way, shape, and form.

Trump never had a corporation or a board.

LOL. Yeah...this is why Biden got the stimulus, aid for Ukraine (he didn't try to extort the nation either), Infrastructure, the military pay raise. Trump? Not much and nothing after 2018.

The only way he could be a success as President is to do the exact opposite of Trump. He won't be able to d that.
Trump is/was far from perfect but he wasn’t a disaster on every front. He was better on the border, than Biden who has been an actual disaster. He was better on domestic energy. And to be fair he didn’t even have his own party on his side half the time so it was an uphill fight for anything he wanted. That said I don’t think he is well suited to be President. Regardless of whether he was right or wrong on policy he doesn’t possess the likability to be an effective POTUS.
 
Trump is/was far from perfect but he wasn’t a disaster on every front. He was better on the border, than Biden who has been an actual disaster. He was better on domestic energy. And to be fair he didn’t even have his own party on his side half the time so it was an uphill fight for anything he wanted. That said I don’t think he is well suited to be President. Regardless of whether he was right or wrong on policy he doesn’t possess the likability to be an effective POTUS.
Yeah calling everyone names is one way to get them upset at you.
 
Could be... Not sure how long he's been a CEO but when you get used to just barking orders and expecting people to follow suit, it's hard to switch gears to working with Congress, having opposition you can't simply fire or buy out or whatever.
Because they know the system, respect the system, and understand the the bottom line is not the only thing that matters.
Good to see an honest assessment of Trump from a blob supporter
I gave an honest assessment of Trump, as General Kelly described him "a very flawed man". Yet as president his many accomplishments and "Promises Kept" including a robust economy until Fau-Chi's covid hit, dwarfs Xiden's catastrophic presidency.

Your assessment of Biden and Kamala as "knowing and respecting the system" is a dodge. Why are their approval ratings about 26%? That is an "F". So your assessment is not honest. The Biden admin has many flaws. I can list them, but I want you to recognize and list them, can you?
 
I gave an honest assessment of Trump, as General Kelly described him "a very flawed man".
Honest assessment? Wow, you called him a "bull in a china shop" if I recall (I deal with a lot of cult members so I may be misquoting you). C'mon...more "honesty" please.
Yet as president his many accomplishments and "Promises Kept" including a robust economy until Fau-Chi's covid hit, dwarfs Xiden's catastrophic presidency.
Promises kept?
Afghanistan? He didn't get us out of there. Joe did.
Infrastructure bill? He didn't get one passed. Joe did.
Obamacare...still here...not replaced by "something terrific"
Remember when he said that you'd be able to see prices for medical procedures and drugs? What happened there?
He was going to reduce the national debt. Instead...he increased it by $8T.
We lost the trade war he started with our allies and our enemies

Your assessment of Biden and Kamala as "knowing and respecting the system" is a dodge. Why are their approval ratings about 26%? That is an "F". So your assessment is not honest. The Biden admin has many flaws. I can list them, but I want you to recognize and list them, can you?
I've listed my issues with the Biden administration and democrats in general several times.
 
Honest assessment? Wow, you called him a "bull in a china shop" if I recall. C'mon...more "honesty" please.

Promises kept?
Afghanistan? He didn't get us out of there. Joe did.
Infrastructure bill? He didn't get one passed. Joe did.
Obamacare...still here...not replaced by "something terrific"
Remember when he said that you'd be able to see prices for medical procedures and drugs? What happened there?
He was going to reduce the national debt. Instead...he increased it by $8T.
We lost the trade war he started with our allies and our enemies

I've listed my issues with the Biden administration and democrats in general several times.
1. I gave a very thorough and honest assessment of Trump, his strengths and his weaknesses.

2. Trump had the Taliban under control with no US deaths for many months until the US could have made an honorable and smart withdrawal. There was no rush to get out as the fighting had paused. Biden's stupid withdrawal cost the US 13 lives and $85b in abandoned equipment, everyone, even democrats and NATO members called Biden's withdrawal a "catastrophe".

3. The Infrastructure Bill was bipartisan, Republicans worked with democrats, democrats wouldn't work with Trump to pass one, meh. Obamacare isn't Biden's work. Trump didn't lose the "trade war". Trump made trade more fair.

4. LOL!! Dodge the "honest" critique' of the Biden administration.
You apparently aren't adult enough to look at the Biden record honestly, so let me help you:

Everything Xiden, aka “poopy pants” touches turns to shit
The Brits hold him in CONTEMPT for abandoning AFG
The French pulled their ambassador for abandoning AFG
He pissed off the Canadians by killing the KeystoneXL pipeline, that’s 500,000 bbls a day he killed.
Xiden sold us out by approving the Nord Stream 2 pipeline giving Putin cash to modernize his military and invade Ukraine, and his “war on energy” keeps fuel costs high. That's why Xiden is "Putin's Whore".
Hope he enjoys the $3,500,000 the Moscow Mayor's wife sent Hunter
Hope he enjoys the $1,500,000,000 that China gave Hunter to "invest"
Open borders is a catastrophe. Trump had it SOLVED. Now its infected migrants & fentanyl sent all over
Runaway inflation would get worse if the dems pass their "BBB" bill. That will be Solyndra on steroids, not to mention the $200,000,000 for Nancy’s park in San Francisco.
Xiden is ruining the US energy sector with his stupid EOs, he wants Russia to pump more oil?? WTF?
Xiden is so dumb he can't even do fake press conferences to answer "ice cream" questions.
Xiden is a gaffe machine, his brain is defective, and he has the nuclear football, WTF???
Xiden surrendered AFG leaving Americans, $billions of equipment, and interpreters to be slaughtered
Xiden’s DOJ sent the FBI after parents (aka domestic terrorists) who dare to ask questions at school board meetings.
China just passed the US out with their new hypersonic missile.
Stupid Joe wants to pay MIGRANTS $450,000 for breaking US immigration LAWS??????
After promising we would have more than enough Covid testing kits, Joe LIED and FAILED.
Xiden killed Israel’s EastMed gas pipeline to sell gas to the EU, Putin’s whore strikes again.
Xiden’s “war on energy” is pushing gas and diesel to unaffordable levels, causing “runaway inflation”.
Xiden is letting RUSSIA negotiate the new IRAN agreement???? WTF!!!!!!
I could go on and on, but you see Trump was at least 1,000,000x better as president than stupid Joe
 
Honest assessment? Wow, you called him a "bull in a china shop" if I recall (I deal with a lot of cult members so I may be misquoting you). C'mon...more "honesty" please.

Promises kept?
Afghanistan? He didn't get us out of there. Joe did.
Infrastructure bill? He didn't get one passed. Joe did.
Obamacare...still here...not replaced by "something terrific"
Remember when he said that you'd be able to see prices for medical procedures and drugs? What happened there?
He was going to reduce the national debt. Instead...he increased it by $8T.
We lost the trade war he started with our allies and our enemies


I've listed my issues with the Biden administration and democrats in general several times.
Im not sure why people list Afghanistan as a win for Biden. He didn't broker the deal to withdraw, he fell in on that and then shanked the part he really had the lead on, the execution. I get it, if it happens under your watch, you get credit, but if you're putting that on your highlight reel....
 
Joe and Kamala? Yes
AOC...nope.


The problem with business executives is that their skillset isn't normally conducive to a shared power scenario

The problem is that the skillset of our politicians isnt conducive for this country much less a council member on a local pet club. I wouldn't vote for musk.
 
He can't be president.

I'd like to see him be the governor of California though. But at the end of the day he can do more good as a private citizen than he could as a politician. He could have more freedom to influence and direct as a wealthy individual, he would make a better pot stirrer like he is doing with Twitter.
 
1. I gave a very thorough and honest assessment of Trump, his strengths and his weaknesses.
You used a one sentence cliche. You said nothing about dishonesty which any honest assessment would include. You said nothing about paying porn stars for sex which any honest assessment would include. You said nothing about the $8T in new debt that any honest assessment would include.
2. Trump had the Taliban under control with no US deaths for many months until the US could have made an honorable and smart withdrawal. There was no rush to get out as the fighting had paused. Biden's stupid withdrawal cost the US 13 lives and $85b in abandoned equipment, everyone, even democrats and NATO members called Biden's withdrawal a "catastrophe".
Really. He had 4 years to get us out of Afghanistan. He did nothing except sign a surrender agreement.
3. The Infrastructure Bill was bipartisan, Republicans worked with democrats, democrats wouldn't work with Trump to pass one,
Excuses excuses.
meh. Obamacare isn't Biden's work.
Your blob promised to replace it with "something terrific". Did he? No.
Trump didn't lose the "trade war". Trump made trade more fair.
Is that why we bailed out the farmers twice, couldn't find toilet paper for months, hospitals ran out of masks and gloves (I know, I work in one)? If this was victory, I'd hate to see what losing looked like.

Your "honest" assessment was laughable.
4. LOL!! Dodge the "honest" critique' of the Biden administration.
You apparently aren't adult enough to look at the Biden record honestly, so let me help you:
I've critiqued the Biden administration and other democrats much more harshly--while he/they are in office mind you--than you ever did with your blob.





Everything Xiden, aka “poopy pants” touches turns to shit
The Brits hold him in CONTEMPT for abandoning AFG
The French pulled their ambassador for abandoning AFG
He pissed off the Canadians by killing the KeystoneXL pipeline, that’s 500,000 bbls a day he killed.
Xiden sold us out by approving the Nord Stream 2 pipeline giving Putin cash to modernize his military and invade Ukraine, and his “war on energy” keeps fuel costs high. That's why Xiden is "Putin's Whore".
Hope he enjoys the $3,500,000 the Moscow Mayor's wife sent Hunter
Hope he enjoys the $1,500,000,000 that China gave Hunter to "invest"
Open borders is a catastrophe. Trump had it SOLVED. Now its infected migrants & fentanyl sent all over
Runaway inflation would get worse if the dems pass their "BBB" bill. That will be Solyndra on steroids, not to mention the $200,000,000 for Nancy’s park in San Francisco.
Xiden is ruining the US energy sector with his stupid EOs, he wants Russia to pump more oil?? WTF?
Xiden is so dumb he can't even do fake press conferences to answer "ice cream" questions.
Xiden is a gaffe machine, his brain is defective, and he has the nuclear football, WTF???
Xiden surrendered AFG leaving Americans, $billions of equipment, and interpreters to be slaughtered
Xiden’s DOJ sent the FBI after parents (aka domestic terrorists) who dare to ask questions at school board meetings.
China just passed the US out with their new hypersonic missile.
Stupid Joe wants to pay MIGRANTS $450,000 for breaking US immigration LAWS??????
After promising we would have more than enough Covid testing kits, Joe LIED and FAILED.
Xiden killed Israel’s EastMed gas pipeline to sell gas to the EU, Putin’s whore strikes again.
Xiden’s “war on energy” is pushing gas and diesel to unaffordable levels, causing “runaway inflation”.
Xiden is letting RUSSIA negotiate the new IRAN agreement???? WTF!!!!!!
I could go on and on, but you see Trump was at least 1,000,000x better as president than stupid Joe

I see all of the long-debunked talking points are back.
 
Joe and Kamala? Yes
AOC...nope.


The problem with business executives is that their skillset isn't normally conducive to a shared power scenario

The problem with billionaires is they're not used to anyone saying "No" to them. The whole process of government, with its checks and balances is the antithesis of the way they function. It takes 2 years to get much done in government, by the time you write the legislation, get it passed in both House and Senate, set up the infrastructure and the oversight to ensure the public purse is protected, and voila, you have a program, which probably is slow, unwieldly, and doesn't do half as well as you'd hoped.
 

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