Negative Interest rates

[DOTR]

According to Trump we should have lower rates than Japan...

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Japan has negative interest rates. For ours to be lower, they would need to be even more in to the negative range.

How many people agree that we should have negative interest rates?

Trump is a birther retard.

Remember, he believes that if we accumulate too much debt "you can always print the money".

It appears he is trying to put that belief to the test since he is running trillion dollar deficits these days. In an economy he says is booming. Only a retard's head would not explode from the cognitive dissonance of those two contradictory conditions.

I don't think Gator was advocating we adopt negative rates now.

Gator will advocate whatever hurts the country and empowers the left.

 

[bendog]

According to Trump we should have lower rates than Japan...

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Japan has negative interest rates. For ours to be lower, they would need to be even more in to the negative range.

How many people agree that we should have negative interest rates?

Trump is a birther retard.

Remember, he believes that if we accumulate too much debt "you can always print the money".

It appears he is trying to put that belief to the test since he is running trillion dollar deficits these days. In an economy he says is booming. Only a retard's head would not explode from the cognitive dissonance of those two contradictory conditions.

I don't think Gator was advocating we adopt negative rates now.

Nor do I. But Trump has more than once suggested it.

He's a birther retard.

Yeah. His view of debt is something you don't pay. That works when you can just give your creditors the casino and let them leave your name on it. We probably don't want to give away our military, ports, roads, public lands ….

 

[bendog]

According to Trump we should have lower rates than Japan...

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Japan has negative interest rates. For ours to be lower, they would need to be even more in to the negative range.

How many people agree that we should have negative interest rates?

Trump is a birther retard.

Remember, he believes that if we accumulate too much debt "you can always print the money".

It appears he is trying to put that belief to the test since he is running trillion dollar deficits these days. In an economy he says is booming. Only a retard's head would not explode from the cognitive dissonance of those two contradictory conditions.

I don't think Gator was advocating we adopt negative rates now.

Gator will advocate whatever hurts the country and empowers the left.

Trump is the asshole advocating negative rates, Trumptard.

 

[Mac1958]

I don't know how anyone could believe we are not in a massive bond bubble. One which dwarfs the subprime bubble.

It should be a bond bubble, but there's a disconnect somewhere. Even with unemployment this low, there's still not enough juice in the economy to pop the bubble.

I'll tell you what concerns me, and it's related to your point: A sub-prime corporate bond bubble. I was doing some research for a book last year and that whole market is scary. They're shoveling money at high-risk companies just like the mortgage companies were doing with home buyers with shitty credit. That market was saturated long ago, so they're going bottom-fishing.
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[bendog]

The US has a bond market bubble. But I am not sure that is a world wide bubble market. And I'm totally ignorant of how Jina has financed its repeated currency devaluations to allow US purchase of its goods to effectively avoid paying tariffs.

Oh, the bond bubble is worldwide, all right.

I figured it had to be in Asia too. The EU … I have no information. But I believe you.

In the US we've avoided paying higher wages to allow capital to accumulate.

 

[g5000]

I don't know how anyone could believe we are not in a massive bond bubble. One which dwarfs the subprime bubble.

It should be a bond bubble, but there's a disconnect somewhere. Even with unemployment this low, there's still not enough juice in the economy to pop the bubble.

I'll tell you what concerns me, and it's related to your point: A sub-prime corporate bond bubble. I was doing some research for a book last year and that whole market is scary. They're shoveling money at high-risk companies just like the mortgage companies were doing with home buyers with shitty credit.
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Yep. Because of low interest rates, investors are chasing higher yields, i.e. junk bonds.

The same is true for high risk sovereign debt.

Negative interest rates would greatly exacerbate that trend.

 

[Mac1958]

I don't know how anyone could believe we are not in a massive bond bubble. One which dwarfs the subprime bubble.

It should be a bond bubble, but there's a disconnect somewhere. Even with unemployment this low, there's still not enough juice in the economy to pop the bubble.

I'll tell you what concerns me, and it's related to your point: A sub-prime corporate bond bubble. I was doing some research for a book last year and that whole market is scary. They're shoveling money at high-risk companies just like the mortgage companies were doing with home buyers with shitty credit.
.

Yep. Because of low interest rates, investors are chasing higher yields, i.e. junk bonds.

The same is true for high risk sovereign debt.

Negative interest rates would greatly exacerbate that trend.

Yeah, the scary part is that they're reaching into smaller, non-traded companies that would be the first to go.

Have you ever looked into non-traded BDC's? They're absolutely terrifying. Totally opaque, they pay impossible dividends, they're illiquid, BUT they pay big commissions and so less-experienced (struggling) advisors cram people into them. Then they go bottom-fishing with the money.

Scary shit.
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[DOTR]

I don't know how anyone could believe we are not in a massive bond bubble. One which dwarfs the subprime bubble.

It should be a bond bubble, but there's a disconnect somewhere. Even with unemployment this low, there's still not enough juice in the economy to pop the bubble.

I'll tell you what concerns me, and it's related to your point: A sub-prime corporate bond bubble. I was doing some research for a book last year and that whole market is scary. They're shoveling money at high-risk companies just like the mortgage companies were doing with home buyers with shitty credit. That market was saturated long ago, so they're going bottom-fishing.
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Strange we don’t hear about the “bond vigilantes” any more.

 

[g5000]

I don't know how anyone could believe we are not in a massive bond bubble. One which dwarfs the subprime bubble.

It should be a bond bubble, but there's a disconnect somewhere. Even with unemployment this low, there's still not enough juice in the economy to pop the bubble.

I'll tell you what concerns me, and it's related to your point: A sub-prime corporate bond bubble. I was doing some research for a book last year and that whole market is scary. They're shoveling money at high-risk companies just like the mortgage companies were doing with home buyers with shitty credit.
.

Yep. Because of low interest rates, investors are chasing higher yields, i.e. junk bonds.

The same is true for high risk sovereign debt.

Negative interest rates would greatly exacerbate that trend.

Yeah, the scary part is that they're reaching into smaller, non-traded companies that would be the first to go.

Have you ever looked into non-traded BDC's? They're absolutely terrifying. Totally opaque, they pay impossible dividends, they're illiquid, BUT they pay big commissions and so less-experienced (struggling) advisors cram people into them. Then they go bottom-fishing with the money.

Scary shit.
.

I think a BDC was behind the We Work fiasco.

 

[DOTR]

The US has a bond market bubble. But I am not sure that is a world wide bubble market. And I'm totally ignorant of how Jina has financed its repeated currency devaluations to allow US purchase of its goods to effectively avoid paying tariffs.

Oh, the bond bubble is worldwide, all right.

I figured it had to be in Asia too. The EU … I have no information. But I believe you.

In the US we've avoided paying higher wages to allow capital to accumulate.

Do you read the financial press?. Dividends are 2% and they SCREAM if a company suggests raising them or share buybacks. And I mean *scream*. From Forbes to Marketwatch to CNBC they collude to try and drive the stock and credit ratings down of any company trying to pay the owners of the company.
I think it’s because in the world of Marxist journalists and “act as if” they have already successfully replaced “owner” with “stakeholder”.

 

[g5000]

I don't know how anyone could believe we are not in a massive bond bubble. One which dwarfs the subprime bubble.

It should be a bond bubble, but there's a disconnect somewhere. Even with unemployment this low, there's still not enough juice in the economy to pop the bubble.
.

I think the key to the popping of the bond bubble is the velocity of money. Amazingly and inexplicably, it's still sluggish. I don't get it.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

According to Trump we should have lower rates than Japan...

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Japan has negative interest rates. For ours to be lower, they would need to be even more in to the negative range.

How many people agree that we should have negative interest rates?

Trump is a birther retard.

Remember, he believes that if we accumulate too much debt "you can always print the money".

It appears he is trying to put that belief to the test since he is running trillion dollar deficits these days. In an economy he says is booming. Only a retard's head would not explode from the cognitive dissonance of those two contradictory conditions.

I don't think Gator was advocating we adopt negative rates now.

Gator will advocate whatever hurts the country and empowers the left.

it is so cute when you come into a thread just to try and get my attention!

 

[Harpy Eagle]

So far not even the Trump worshipers will go along with this madness from their god..

 

[Aldo Raine]

According to Trump we should have lower rates than Japan...

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Japan has negative interest rates. For ours to be lower, they would need to be even more in to the negative range.

How many people agree that we should have negative interest rates?

Have the bank pay me as opposed to me pay the bank? Sounds like a plan!!! When do we start!!!

You pay the bank for your savings and checking accounts? Wow! What a dumbass!

He's a Tramptard, what else would you expect?

 

[g5000]

So far not even the Trump worshipers will go along with this madness from their god..

Trump is trying to blame everyone but himself for the cooling of the economy caused by his stupid tariff war.

If Trump tells the rube herd it is because we don't have negative interest rates, they will go along with it since they don't have the slightest idea what that even means.

 

[g5000]

Think about it. Trump talks about making America great again.

Someone please explain to the tard that America was not made great with negative interest rates.

Trump is doing a great of job of demonstrating why his companies went bankrupt so many times.

 

[bendog]

So far not even the Trump worshipers will go along with this madness from their god..

Trump is trying to blame everyone but himself for the cooling of the economy caused by his stupid tariff war.

If Trump tells the rube herd it is because we don't have negative interest rates, they will go along with it since they don't have the slightest idea what that even means.

Exactly. None of them have a clue what neg rates involve. And their application really requires deflation. Although, who knows with Trump

 

[pknopp]

"Capitalism" will have become legalized theft.

 

[beautress]

According to Trump we should have lower rates than Japan...

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Japan has negative interest rates. For ours to be lower, they would need to be even more in to the negative range.

How many people agree that we should have negative interest rates?

Should we adopt negative interest rates?

Gee, I think we already have them, Mr. Golfing Gator. They're called "law suits."

 

[basquebromance]

By the end of 2020, trade wars will have reduced global GDP by $700 billion.

chew on that, you blowhards!