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Socialism is government owning the means of production.

Capitalism is free markets and private property ownership.

The distinction is not that tough, children.
It's Not What You Know; It's Whom You Blow

A distinction without a difference. The same egoistic ambitious imbeciles run both systems. All the self-justifying Rightist fanatics here would have become Communist Party members if they had been born in the Soviet Union. And not from brainwashing, either, but from their obvious lack of character.
Leftwing douchebags like you are in no position to talk. The difference is, under a socialist totalitarian system, there's no limit to the barbarities that can be inflicted on the populace. Under capitalism, the weasels retain their power only so long as they produce products that people want and treat their employees decently.
 
Like you've ever started a business in your life, Pogo!

I can say that I never went bankrupt.

Rump says exactly the same thing. The difference is, when I say it I'm not lying.

Trump had businesses that went bankrupt, Pogo. He himself has always been solvent. I know this kind of stuff confuses people like you who've never owned one business let alone dozens but it's not uncommon at all for someone who starts multiple new businesses to have some succeed and some fail. The reason you keep them separate as their own corporations is so that you DON'T have your failures sabotage your successes!

As for you never going bankrupt? Of course you haven't! You've never risked your own time and money starting up a company. You're a drone. People like you work for others.
Ya know what happens when you "have a business that went bankrupt"?

YOU failed and screwed everyone that worked with or for you

Donald Trump has owned or operated over 500 businesses in his lifetime. That means he had one bankruptcy for every 100 businesses he operated. Find me another business person with that kind of record. Mind you, most of his bankruptcies happened during a recession when a lot of businesses were doing the same.

The majority of businesses in the US don't file bankruptcy.

That's actually wrong. 96% of businesses fail within 10 years.

Why 96 Percent of Businesses Fail Within 10 Years
 
Except 78% of American Workers live paycheck to paycheck.

And they drive newer cars, they have smart phones, likely several video game packages, cable or satellite television, one or more children.......

Sure, since the profits are a direct reflection on their work.

Yes, that's called profit sharing and if that's the way you feel, you need to get a job that offers that benefit, although very few do anymore. But there is another way to share in your companies wealth, and that is to buy their stock. Some might even offer it to you at a discount. But don't expect them to pay you more than your work is worth if they are doing well. It's no different than them paying you less during a recession or when things are not doing well.

There are very few examples where profit sharing or stock options are worth anything near a pay increase.

How much are employees worth when they make you all of your money?

An employer can legally reduce the pay of existing employees?

Sure they can. Why can't they?

What are you worth as an employee? Simple answer. Your worth as an employee is what your employer can pay another person to do the same job and same quality of work that you do. That's what we are all worth.

If you have a job operating a drill press for 20 bucks an hour, walk off the job after being refused a raise request, did you deserve that raise?

Well if your employer can hire another person to do your job at the same rate, then no, you were not worth that raise. If your employer can't find anybody for that money, and has to up his offer, then yes, you did deserve that raise. If your employer found somebody to do your job for 18 bucks an hour, then you were being overpaid.

This is why sweeping the floors or making french fries pays much less than an engineer. Because anybody can do those jobs, however there are many less engineers for an employer to choose from. He can't find anybody to be an engineer at his company for the money he pays floor sweepers.

Employers pay the least amount they can get away with, which is why we need a minimum wage.

Of course they do. It is not the business of employers to provide employees with the lifestyle of their choice, but to make a profit and satisfy their investors..
 
Comprehension problems, huh?

Answer the question!

I did.....before you even asked it. Like I said, comprehension problems apparently.

Perhaps you can post again, for the first time.

No, I'll post again for the second time. If you continue to have problems, please ask the nearest adult with comprehension abilities to explain it to you:

Not everything government spends money on is socialism. Government is there to do things we can't do ourselves because there is no way to get everybody together to do them. In other words government provides things most if not all benefits from. (example) Our military is there and we pay for it because it benefits us all. Same thing with infrastructure. Same thing with police and fire. We all benefit from these things directly or indirectly.

The US Government doesn't spend any money on Socialism.

That's all they've been doing as long as I've been alive. I wish they didn't the way the founders intended.
 
Except 78% of American Workers live paycheck to paycheck.

And they drive newer cars, they have smart phones, likely several video game packages, cable or satellite television, one or more children.......

Sure, since the profits are a direct reflection on their work.

Yes, that's called profit sharing and if that's the way you feel, you need to get a job that offers that benefit, although very few do anymore. But there is another way to share in your companies wealth, and that is to buy their stock. Some might even offer it to you at a discount. But don't expect them to pay you more than your work is worth if they are doing well. It's no different than them paying you less during a recession or when things are not doing well.

There are very few examples where profit sharing or stock options are worth anything near a pay increase.

How much are employees worth when they make you all of your money?

An employer can legally reduce the pay of existing employees?

Sure they can. Why can't they?

What are you worth as an employee? Simple answer. Your worth as an employee is what your employer can pay another person to do the same job and same quality of work that you do. That's what we are all worth.

If you have a job operating a drill press for 20 bucks an hour, walk off the job after being refused a raise request, did you deserve that raise?

Well if your employer can hire another person to do your job at the same rate, then no, you were not worth that raise. If your employer can't find anybody for that money, and has to up his offer, then yes, you did deserve that raise. If your employer found somebody to do your job for 18 bucks an hour, then you were being overpaid.

This is why sweeping the floors or making french fries pays much less than an engineer. Because anybody can do those jobs, however there are many less engineers for an employer to choose from. He can't find anybody to be an engineer at his company for the money he pays floor sweepers.

Employers pay the least amount they can get away with, which is why we need a minimum wage.

No, because very few jobs pay minimum wage. Most jobs today start well above it even jobs known to pay minimum such as Walmart and McDonald's.
 
Like you've ever started a business in your life, Pogo!

I can say that I never went bankrupt.

Rump says exactly the same thing. The difference is, when I say it I'm not lying.

Trump had businesses that went bankrupt, Pogo. He himself has always been solvent. I know this kind of stuff confuses people like you who've never owned one business let alone dozens but it's not uncommon at all for someone who starts multiple new businesses to have some succeed and some fail. The reason you keep them separate as their own corporations is so that you DON'T have your failures sabotage your successes!

As for you never going bankrupt? Of course you haven't! You've never risked your own time and money starting up a company. You're a drone. People like you work for others.
Ya know what happens when you "have a business that went bankrupt"?

YOU failed and screwed everyone that worked with or for you

Donald Trump has owned or operated over 500 businesses in his lifetime. That means he had one bankruptcy for every 100 businesses he operated. Find me another business person with that kind of record. Mind you, most of his bankruptcies happened during a recession when a lot of businesses were doing the same.

The majority of businesses in the US don't file bankruptcy.

The majority of them just go out of business.
 
He did put the Fred money into investments, you dolt! How do you think he built his empire?

I'm amused by you leftists that think a bankruptcy signifies failure. Bankruptcy is simply another tool to be used by people who are in business. There are times when they simply make sense and you're an idiot if you don't file. But you wouldn't understand that...would you, Pogo? You're not a risk taker. You're one of those people who sits on your couch playing it safe and then whines about how those who took risks and had them pay off...are making too much money!

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. When I start a business one of my prime goals is "go bankrupt". Cultish self-delusion. Yeah sorry I don't make a practice of fucking over those who invested in me, or stiffing those I owe and then just telling them "so sue me". That's the stuff of scumbaggery.

Like you've ever started a business in your life, Pogo!

I can say that I never went bankrupt.

Rump says exactly the same thing. The difference is, when I say it I'm not lying.

Trump had businesses that went bankrupt, Pogo. He himself has always been solvent.

Distinctions without differences aside, you surely don't know that. What's your source? You have his tax returns? Don't think so.

I know this kind of stuff confuses people like you who've never owned one business let alone dozens but it's not uncommon at all for someone who starts multiple new businesses to have some succeed and some fail. The reason you keep them separate as their own corporations is so that you DON'T have your failures sabotage your successes!

As for you never going bankrupt? Of course you haven't! You've never risked your own time and money starting up a company. You're a drone. People like you work for others.

Actually I've been working for myself for some 35 years so this is yet more babble you have no way to know. But this thread is not about me. Now you owe me a nickel.

But while we're collecting nickels why don't you tell us what else you "know" that you have no way to know? How about the next Powerball number? I'll give you a cut. I'll even waive the nickels.

You own your own business, Pogo? Really? (eye roll)
 
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. When I start a business one of my prime goals is "go bankrupt". Cultish self-delusion. Yeah sorry I don't make a practice of fucking over those who invested in me, or stiffing those I owe and then just telling them "so sue me". That's the stuff of scumbaggery.

Like you've ever started a business in your life, Pogo!

I can say that I never went bankrupt.

Rump says exactly the same thing. The difference is, when I say it I'm not lying.

Trump had businesses that went bankrupt, Pogo. He himself has always been solvent.

Distinctions without differences aside, you surely don't know that. What's your source? You have his tax returns? Don't think so.

I know this kind of stuff confuses people like you who've never owned one business let alone dozens but it's not uncommon at all for someone who starts multiple new businesses to have some succeed and some fail. The reason you keep them separate as their own corporations is so that you DON'T have your failures sabotage your successes!

As for you never going bankrupt? Of course you haven't! You've never risked your own time and money starting up a company. You're a drone. People like you work for others.

Actually I've been working for myself for some 35 years so this is yet more babble you have no way to know. But this thread is not about me. Now you owe me a nickel.

But while we're collecting nickels why don't you tell us what else you "know" that you have no way to know? How about the next Powerball number? I'll give you a cut. I'll even waive the nickels.

You own your own business, Pogo? Really? (eye roll)

Well, if you consider growing inferior weed in your closet and selling it to junior high kids a "business", then sure.
 
Like you've ever started a business in your life, Pogo!

I can say that I never went bankrupt.

Rump says exactly the same thing. The difference is, when I say it I'm not lying.

Trump had businesses that went bankrupt, Pogo. He himself has always been solvent.

Distinctions without differences aside, you surely don't know that. What's your source? You have his tax returns? Don't think so.

I know this kind of stuff confuses people like you who've never owned one business let alone dozens but it's not uncommon at all for someone who starts multiple new businesses to have some succeed and some fail. The reason you keep them separate as their own corporations is so that you DON'T have your failures sabotage your successes!

As for you never going bankrupt? Of course you haven't! You've never risked your own time and money starting up a company. You're a drone. People like you work for others.

Actually I've been working for myself for some 35 years so this is yet more babble you have no way to know. But this thread is not about me. Now you owe me a nickel.

But while we're collecting nickels why don't you tell us what else you "know" that you have no way to know? How about the next Powerball number? I'll give you a cut. I'll even waive the nickels.

You own your own business, Pogo? Really? (eye roll)

Well, if you consider growing inferior weed in your closet and selling it to junior high kids a "business", then sure.

How cowardly is that. Crows to everyone who will listen that she has me "on ignore" yet trolls via somebody else's post.

And still doesn't have the guts to answer that post from Monday. Or the one backing up her claim of hasty generalizations from months ago ---- which is the real reason she ran away. Can't take the heat.
 
So you're "brave" pretending to be things you obviously aren't on an internet chat site? I hate to break this to you, Pogo but you're the very definition of an internet troll.
 
So you're "brave" pretending to be things you obviously aren't on an internet chat site? I hate to break this to you, Pogo but you're the very definition of an internet troll.

I didn't even bother to ANSWER your troll post from yesterday, dipweed. You're the one obsessed here, not me.
 
I'm "obsessed" because I'm amused by your claim to be a business owner, Pogo? Sure, little buddy...sure!
 
So basically...I'm "obsessed" because I did respond to you...but someone who doesn't respond to you is "cowardly"?
 
I'm "obsessed" because I'm amused by your claim to be a business owner, Pogo? Sure, little buddy...sure!

I haven't claimed to be a "business owner". You need to learn to read.

That's why I didn't bother responding to your drooling trollism. It's something you made up.
 
I can say that I never went bankrupt.

Rump says exactly the same thing. The difference is, when I say it I'm not lying.

Trump had businesses that went bankrupt, Pogo. He himself has always been solvent. I know this kind of stuff confuses people like you who've never owned one business let alone dozens but it's not uncommon at all for someone who starts multiple new businesses to have some succeed and some fail. The reason you keep them separate as their own corporations is so that you DON'T have your failures sabotage your successes!

As for you never going bankrupt? Of course you haven't! You've never risked your own time and money starting up a company. You're a drone. People like you work for others.
Ya know what happens when you "have a business that went bankrupt"?

YOU failed and screwed everyone that worked with or for you

Donald Trump has owned or operated over 500 businesses in his lifetime. That means he had one bankruptcy for every 100 businesses he operated. Find me another business person with that kind of record. Mind you, most of his bankruptcies happened during a recession when a lot of businesses were doing the same.

The majority of businesses in the US don't file bankruptcy.

That's actually wrong. 96% of businesses fail within 10 years.

Why 96 Percent of Businesses Fail Within 10 Years

Being a Canadian you may not know that the US has 30 million businesses. The majority of which DO NOT file bankruptcy.
 
Except 78% of American Workers live paycheck to paycheck.

And they drive newer cars, they have smart phones, likely several video game packages, cable or satellite television, one or more children.......

Sure, since the profits are a direct reflection on their work.

Yes, that's called profit sharing and if that's the way you feel, you need to get a job that offers that benefit, although very few do anymore. But there is another way to share in your companies wealth, and that is to buy their stock. Some might even offer it to you at a discount. But don't expect them to pay you more than your work is worth if they are doing well. It's no different than them paying you less during a recession or when things are not doing well.

There are very few examples where profit sharing or stock options are worth anything near a pay increase.

How much are employees worth when they make you all of your money?

An employer can legally reduce the pay of existing employees?

Sure they can. Why can't they?

What are you worth as an employee? Simple answer. Your worth as an employee is what your employer can pay another person to do the same job and same quality of work that you do. That's what we are all worth.

If you have a job operating a drill press for 20 bucks an hour, walk off the job after being refused a raise request, did you deserve that raise?

Well if your employer can hire another person to do your job at the same rate, then no, you were not worth that raise. If your employer can't find anybody for that money, and has to up his offer, then yes, you did deserve that raise. If your employer found somebody to do your job for 18 bucks an hour, then you were being overpaid.

This is why sweeping the floors or making french fries pays much less than an engineer. Because anybody can do those jobs, however there are many less engineers for an employer to choose from. He can't find anybody to be an engineer at his company for the money he pays floor sweepers.

Employers pay the least amount they can get away with, which is why we need a minimum wage.

Of course they do. It is not the business of employers to provide employees with the lifestyle of their choice, but to make a profit and satisfy their investors..

It is the moral responsibility of employers to pay a living wage.
 
Answer the question!

I did.....before you even asked it. Like I said, comprehension problems apparently.

Perhaps you can post again, for the first time.

No, I'll post again for the second time. If you continue to have problems, please ask the nearest adult with comprehension abilities to explain it to you:

Not everything government spends money on is socialism. Government is there to do things we can't do ourselves because there is no way to get everybody together to do them. In other words government provides things most if not all benefits from. (example) Our military is there and we pay for it because it benefits us all. Same thing with infrastructure. Same thing with police and fire. We all benefit from these things directly or indirectly.

The US Government doesn't spend any money on Socialism.

That's all they've been doing as long as I've been alive. I wish they didn't the way the founders intended.

I see you have no examples.
 
Trump had businesses that went bankrupt, Pogo. He himself has always been solvent. I know this kind of stuff confuses people like you who've never owned one business let alone dozens but it's not uncommon at all for someone who starts multiple new businesses to have some succeed and some fail. The reason you keep them separate as their own corporations is so that you DON'T have your failures sabotage your successes!

As for you never going bankrupt? Of course you haven't! You've never risked your own time and money starting up a company. You're a drone. People like you work for others.
Ya know what happens when you "have a business that went bankrupt"?

YOU failed and screwed everyone that worked with or for you

Donald Trump has owned or operated over 500 businesses in his lifetime. That means he had one bankruptcy for every 100 businesses he operated. Find me another business person with that kind of record. Mind you, most of his bankruptcies happened during a recession when a lot of businesses were doing the same.

The majority of businesses in the US don't file bankruptcy.

That's actually wrong. 96% of businesses fail within 10 years.

Why 96 Percent of Businesses Fail Within 10 Years

Being a Canadian you may not know that the US has 30 million businesses. The majority of which DO NOT file bankruptcy.

Being a dumbass, you may not know that 600,000 new businesses open every year, and nearly as many go out of business in the same period.
 
And they drive newer cars, they have smart phones, likely several video game packages, cable or satellite television, one or more children.......

Yes, that's called profit sharing and if that's the way you feel, you need to get a job that offers that benefit, although very few do anymore. But there is another way to share in your companies wealth, and that is to buy their stock. Some might even offer it to you at a discount. But don't expect them to pay you more than your work is worth if they are doing well. It's no different than them paying you less during a recession or when things are not doing well.

There are very few examples where profit sharing or stock options are worth anything near a pay increase.

How much are employees worth when they make you all of your money?

An employer can legally reduce the pay of existing employees?

Sure they can. Why can't they?

What are you worth as an employee? Simple answer. Your worth as an employee is what your employer can pay another person to do the same job and same quality of work that you do. That's what we are all worth.

If you have a job operating a drill press for 20 bucks an hour, walk off the job after being refused a raise request, did you deserve that raise?

Well if your employer can hire another person to do your job at the same rate, then no, you were not worth that raise. If your employer can't find anybody for that money, and has to up his offer, then yes, you did deserve that raise. If your employer found somebody to do your job for 18 bucks an hour, then you were being overpaid.

This is why sweeping the floors or making french fries pays much less than an engineer. Because anybody can do those jobs, however there are many less engineers for an employer to choose from. He can't find anybody to be an engineer at his company for the money he pays floor sweepers.

Employers pay the least amount they can get away with, which is why we need a minimum wage.

Of course they do. It is not the business of employers to provide employees with the lifestyle of their choice, but to make a profit and satisfy their investors..

It is the moral responsibility of employers to pay a living wage.

I love how amoral leftists suddenly want to come over all preachy and judgemental when they want to take other people's stuff and still pretend they aren't worthless shitheads.

No one has a "moral responsibility" to make YOUR life better for you, except you.
 

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