New Benghazi E-mails Link White House to Doctoring of Talking Points

[mudwhistle]

Trey Gowdy is up to his ears in the GOP's schemes to raise money off politicizing Benghazi while at the same time he's going on tv telling everyone how evil it would be to try to raise money by politicizing Benghazi.

Apparently the Republicans wrongly assumed that they didn't look foolish enough already with their Benghazi obsession...

...they had to take it up a notch lol.

Benghazi and the IRS, NSA, VA, BLM, I don't have time for all of the criminal activity that this administration is guilty of............

Yup, we're obsessed with only one scandal......

Sure beats toe-tapping and traffic cone scandals, huh?

 

[JoeB131]

Oh, yeah? They were not nearly as upset about that video as we were when Hillary forbad the use of bullets in the guns of guards at the embassy.

That breaches the Constitution's words of the Executive Branch providing for the Common Defense, in particular the President and his top cabinet officials.

It wasn't an embassy, it was a consulate.

And security was provided by the local government and private contractors.

Good call.

What could go wrong???

a lot.

Some asshole might release a video on YouTube that enrages 1/6 of the world's population.

But the reality is, our embassies and consulates have to rely on the security provided by the host country.

 

[Redfish]

It wasn't an embassy, it was a consulate.

And security was provided by the local government and private contractors.

Good call.

What could go wrong???

a lot.

Some asshole might release a video on YouTube that enrages 1/6 of the world's population.

But the reality is, our embassies and consulates have to rely on the security provided by the host country.

since only about 30 people viewed the stupid video before Benghazi, it hardly enraged 1/6 of the world. It got more views after Rice, Obama, and Clinton started talking about it than it had before the attack.

your second paragraph is total bullshit. Do you really think we rely on the host country for embassy security? Have you ever been to a US embassy in a foreign country? I have, and believe me US Marines provide security, not a local police force. Unless, of course, the US military is told not to provide security as it was at Benghazi.

 

[JoeB131]

Good call.

What could go wrong???

a lot.

Some asshole might release a video on YouTube that enrages 1/6 of the world's population.

But the reality is, our embassies and consulates have to rely on the security provided by the host country.

since only about 30 people viewed the stupid video before Benghazi, it hardly enraged 1/6 of the world. It got more views after Rice, Obama, and Clinton started talking about it than it had before the attack.

your second paragraph is total bullshit. Do you really think we rely on the host country for embassy security? Have you ever been to a US embassy in a foreign country? I have, and believe me US Marines provide security, not a local police force. Unless, of course, the US military is told not to provide security as it was at Benghazi.

Yeah, guy, the Marines are there for show.

if the host country decides to not protect you from an angry mob, you are pretty much screwed.

And, no, people didn't have to see the video to be outraged by it. Very few people saw "The Last Temptation of Christ", but you Christian nutters got all upset about it.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Trey Gowdy is up to his ears in the GOP's schemes to raise money off politicizing Benghazi while at the same time he's going on tv telling everyone how evil it would be to try to raise money by politicizing Benghazi.

Apparently the Republicans wrongly assumed that they didn't look foolish enough already with their Benghazi obsession...

...they had to take it up a notch lol.

Benghazi and the IRS, NSA, VA, BLM, I don't have time for all of the criminal activity that this administration is guilty of............

Yup, we're obsessed with only one scandal......

Sure beats toe-tapping and traffic cone scandals, huh?

You're obsessed with manufacturing scandals where none exist.

The GOP is politicizing Benghazi to try to win an election. Ironically, in order to prove wrongdoing by the Obama administration re Benghazi they will have to prove that the administration did then what the GOP is doing now.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Good call.

What could go wrong???

a lot.

Some asshole might release a video on YouTube that enrages 1/6 of the world's population.

But the reality is, our embassies and consulates have to rely on the security provided by the host country.

since only about 30 people viewed the stupid video before Benghazi, it hardly enraged 1/6 of the world. It got more views after Rice, Obama, and Clinton started talking about it than it had before the attack.

.

The video was a 14 minute trailer for the full movie and was out in June 2012. The video trailer translated into Arabic was out during the week before 9/11/12.

It was that which incited the rioting. Stop lying.

 

[paperview]

Good call.

What could go wrong???

a lot.

Some asshole might release a video on YouTube that enrages 1/6 of the world's population.

But the reality is, our embassies and consulates have to rely on the security provided by the host country.

....

your second paragraph is total bullshit. Do you really think we rely on the host country for embassy security? Have you ever been to a US embassy in a foreign country? I have, and believe me US Marines provide security, not a local police force. Unless, of course, the US military is told not to provide security as it was at Benghazi.

First, this wasn't an Embassy. It wasn't even a Consulate.

Second:

"Wendy Chamberlin, a career foreign-service officer who was serving as the US Ambassador to Pakistan when Al Qaeda struck the World Trade Center on 9/11, says being a target is part of the job for diplomats serving in risky areas.

"High-profile targets like ambassadors have always been in danger because they're the symbol of the United States," Chamberlin says. "What you don't want to represent is that you distrust the people, that you don't want to engage with the people, that you hate being there. It's an important part of your mission and get out and mix with the population."

Moreover, under the 1961 Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations it is actually the host country that is responsible for the security of diplomatic facilities, not the Marines.

The primary responsibility of the Marine Corps' Embassy Security Group states that its "primary mission" is "to prevent the compromise of classified material vital to the national security of the United States," while their "secondary mission" is to "provide protection for US citizens and US government property" during "exigent circumstances."
Their first responsibility is to guard secrets, not diplomats."


The Truth About Attacks on Our Diplomats

 

[TemplarKormac]

Trey Gowdy is up to his ears in the GOP's schemes to raise money off politicizing Benghazi while at the same time he's going on tv telling everyone how evil it would be to try to raise money by politicizing Benghazi.

Apparently the Republicans wrongly assumed that they didn't look foolish enough already with their Benghazi obsession...

...they had to take it up a notch lol.

Benghazi and the IRS, NSA, VA, BLM, I don't have time for all of the criminal activity that this administration is guilty of............

Yup, we're obsessed with only one scandal......

Sure beats toe-tapping and traffic cone scandals, huh?

You're obsessed with manufacturing scandals where none exist.

The GOP is politicizing Benghazi to try to win an election. Ironically, in order to prove wrongdoing by the Obama administration re Benghazi they will have to prove that the administration did then what the GOP is doing now.

And this was you (and your friends) for the past week and a half:

 

[Redfish]

a lot.

Some asshole might release a video on YouTube that enrages 1/6 of the world's population.

But the reality is, our embassies and consulates have to rely on the security provided by the host country.

since only about 30 people viewed the stupid video before Benghazi, it hardly enraged 1/6 of the world. It got more views after Rice, Obama, and Clinton started talking about it than it had before the attack.

.

The video was a 14 minute trailer for the full movie and was out in June 2012. The video trailer translated into Arabic was out during the week before 9/11/12.

It was that which incited the rioting. Stop lying.

horseshit! there is absolutely no evidence that the video was the cause of the terrorist attack at Benghazi. Even the whitehouse now admits that it was not because of the video. What planet are you posting from?

 

[Theowl32]

Trey Gowdy is up to his ears in the GOP's schemes to raise money off politicizing Benghazi while at the same time he's going on tv telling everyone how evil it would be to try to raise money by politicizing Benghazi.

Apparently the Republicans wrongly assumed that they didn't look foolish enough already with their Benghazi obsession...

...they had to take it up a notch lol.

Benghazi and the IRS, NSA, VA, BLM, I don't have time for all of the criminal activity that this administration is guilty of............

Yup, we're obsessed with only one scandal......

Sure beats toe-tapping and traffic cone scandals, huh?

 

[Redfish]

a lot.

Some asshole might release a video on YouTube that enrages 1/6 of the world's population.

But the reality is, our embassies and consulates have to rely on the security provided by the host country.

....

your second paragraph is total bullshit. Do you really think we rely on the host country for embassy security? Have you ever been to a US embassy in a foreign country? I have, and believe me US Marines provide security, not a local police force. Unless, of course, the US military is told not to provide security as it was at Benghazi.

First, this wasn't an Embassy. It wasn't even a Consulate.

Second:

"Wendy Chamberlin, a career foreign-service officer who was serving as the US Ambassador to Pakistan when Al Qaeda struck the World Trade Center on 9/11, says being a target is part of the job for diplomats serving in risky areas.

"High-profile targets like ambassadors have always been in danger because they're the symbol of the United States," Chamberlin says. "What you don't want to represent is that you distrust the people, that you don't want to engage with the people, that you hate being there. It's an important part of your mission and get out and mix with the population."

Moreover, under the 1961 Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations it is actually the host country that is responsible for the security of diplomatic facilities, not the Marines.

The primary responsibility of the Marine Corps' Embassy Security Group states that its "primary mission" is "to prevent the compromise of classified material vital to the national security of the United States," while their "secondary mission" is to "provide protection for US citizens and US government property" during "exigent circumstances."
Their first responsibility is to guard secrets, not diplomats."


The Truth About Attacks on Our Diplomats

LOL, again, have you ever been to a US embassy or consulate? Who the fuck do you think greets you if you want to enter the embassy? Who do you think checks your passport? US Marines or US Army. Who do you think is standing at the door with guns? not the local police.

Damn, your ignorance is only exceeded by your arrrogance.

 

[TemplarKormac]

a lot.

Some asshole might release a video on YouTube that enrages 1/6 of the world's population.

But the reality is, our embassies and consulates have to rely on the security provided by the host country.

since only about 30 people viewed the stupid video before Benghazi, it hardly enraged 1/6 of the world. It got more views after Rice, Obama, and Clinton started talking about it than it had before the attack.

your second paragraph is total bullshit. Do you really think we rely on the host country for embassy security? Have you ever been to a US embassy in a foreign country? I have, and believe me US Marines provide security, not a local police force. Unless, of course, the US military is told not to provide security as it was at Benghazi.

Yeah, guy, the Marines are there for show.

if the host country decides to not protect you from an angry mob, you are pretty much screwed.

And, no, people didn't have to see the video to be outraged by it. Very few people saw "The Last Temptation of Christ", but you Christian nutters got all upset about it.

That's pretty much the dumbest thing I've ever heard. We don't start riots when a video upsets us, we simply don't watch it. But even still, this has nothing to do with anything. The attack on the consulate was preplanned. The video was simply a scapegoat to carry through with the attack.

 

[Theowl32]

since only about 30 people viewed the stupid video before Benghazi, it hardly enraged 1/6 of the world. It got more views after Rice, Obama, and Clinton started talking about it than it had before the attack.

.

The video was a 14 minute trailer for the full movie and was out in June 2012. The video trailer translated into Arabic was out during the week before 9/11/12.

It was that which incited the rioting. Stop lying.

horseshit! there is absolutely no evidence that the video was the cause of the terrorist attack at Benghazi. Even the whitehouse now admits that it was not because of the video. What planet are you posting from?

In another thread he said the case was closed cause Obama called it an act of terror and now he is saying it was a spontaneous attack caused by a video.

 

[paperview]

....

your second paragraph is total bullshit. Do you really think we rely on the host country for embassy security? Have you ever been to a US embassy in a foreign country? I have, and believe me US Marines provide security, not a local police force. Unless, of course, the US military is told not to provide security as it was at Benghazi.

First, this wasn't an Embassy. It wasn't even a Consulate.

Second:

"Wendy Chamberlin, a career foreign-service officer who was serving as the US Ambassador to Pakistan when Al Qaeda struck the World Trade Center on 9/11, says being a target is part of the job for diplomats serving in risky areas.

"High-profile targets like ambassadors have always been in danger because they're the symbol of the United States," Chamberlin says. "What you don't want to represent is that you distrust the people, that you don't want to engage with the people, that you hate being there. It's an important part of your mission and get out and mix with the population."

Moreover, under the 1961 Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations it is actually the host country that is responsible for the security of diplomatic facilities, not the Marines.

The primary responsibility of the Marine Corps' Embassy Security Group states that its "primary mission" is "to prevent the compromise of classified material vital to the national security of the United States," while their "secondary mission" is to "provide protection for US citizens and US government property" during "exigent circumstances."
Their first responsibility is to guard secrets, not diplomats."


The Truth About Attacks on Our Diplomats

LOL, again, have you ever been to a US embassy or consulate? Who the fuck do you think greets you if you want to enter the embassy? Who do you think checks your passport? US Marines or US Army. Who do you think is standing at the door with guns? not the local police.

Damn, your ignorance is only exceeded by your arrrogance.

Proof positive you're too stupid to read.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Trey Gowdy is up to his ears in the GOP's schemes to raise money off politicizing Benghazi while at the same time he's going on tv telling everyone how evil it would be to try to raise money by politicizing Benghazi.

Apparently the Republicans wrongly assumed that they didn't look foolish enough already with their Benghazi obsession...

...they had to take it up a notch lol.

Benghazi and the IRS, NSA, VA, BLM, I don't have time for all of the criminal activity that this administration is guilty of............

Yup, we're obsessed with only one scandal......

Sure beats toe-tapping and traffic cone scandals, huh?

You're obsessed with manufacturing scandals where none exist.

The GOP is politicizing Benghazi to try to win an election. Ironically, in order to prove wrongdoing by the Obama administration re Benghazi they will have to prove that the administration did then what the GOP is doing now.

You're obsessed with dismissing scandals that DO exist!

Obama lied about Benghazi to win an election. Ironically, in order to prove that the video caused this and the Republicans were idiots for pursuing the matter. They had to only prove the video was the cause; yet even they said it was a terrorist attack, completely unmotivated by the video.

You're simply hopeless. Immune to the realities that face you.

 

[TemplarKormac]

First, this wasn't an Embassy. It wasn't even a Consulate.

Second:

"Wendy Chamberlin, a career foreign-service officer who was serving as the US Ambassador to Pakistan when Al Qaeda struck the World Trade Center on 9/11, says being a target is part of the job for diplomats serving in risky areas.

"High-profile targets like ambassadors have always been in danger because they're the symbol of the United States," Chamberlin says. "What you don't want to represent is that you distrust the people, that you don't want to engage with the people, that you hate being there. It's an important part of your mission and get out and mix with the population."

Moreover, under the 1961 Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations it is actually the host country that is responsible for the security of diplomatic facilities, not the Marines.

The primary responsibility of the Marine Corps' Embassy Security Group states that its "primary mission" is "to prevent the compromise of classified material vital to the national security of the United States," while their "secondary mission" is to "provide protection for US citizens and US government property" during "exigent circumstances."
Their first responsibility is to guard secrets, not diplomats."


The Truth About Attacks on Our Diplomats

LOL, again, have you ever been to a US embassy or consulate? Who the fuck do you think greets you if you want to enter the embassy? Who do you think checks your passport? US Marines or US Army. Who do you think is standing at the door with guns? not the local police.

Damn, your ignorance is only exceeded by your arrogance.

Proof positive you're too stupid to read.

Proof positive that you still have no argument.

 

[Redfish]

First, this wasn't an Embassy. It wasn't even a Consulate.

Second:

"Wendy Chamberlin, a career foreign-service officer who was serving as the US Ambassador to Pakistan when Al Qaeda struck the World Trade Center on 9/11, says being a target is part of the job for diplomats serving in risky areas.

"High-profile targets like ambassadors have always been in danger because they're the symbol of the United States," Chamberlin says. "What you don't want to represent is that you distrust the people, that you don't want to engage with the people, that you hate being there. It's an important part of your mission and get out and mix with the population."

Moreover, under the 1961 Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations it is actually the host country that is responsible for the security of diplomatic facilities, not the Marines.

The primary responsibility of the Marine Corps' Embassy Security Group states that its "primary mission" is "to prevent the compromise of classified material vital to the national security of the United States," while their "secondary mission" is to "provide protection for US citizens and US government property" during "exigent circumstances."
Their first responsibility is to guard secrets, not diplomats."


The Truth About Attacks on Our Diplomats

LOL, again, have you ever been to a US embassy or consulate? Who the fuck do you think greets you if you want to enter the embassy? Who do you think checks your passport? US Marines or US Army. Who do you think is standing at the door with guns? not the local police.

Damn, your ignorance is only exceeded by your arrrogance.

Proof positive you're too stupid to read.

I read it, but I know from personal experience that its not true. so as to 'stupid', you win.

 

[Redfish]

The video was a 14 minute trailer for the full movie and was out in June 2012. The video trailer translated into Arabic was out during the week before 9/11/12.

It was that which incited the rioting. Stop lying.

horseshit! there is absolutely no evidence that the video was the cause of the terrorist attack at Benghazi. Even the whitehouse now admits that it was not because of the video. What planet are you posting from?

In another thread he said the case was closed cause Obama called it an act of terror and now he is saying it was a spontaneous attack caused by a video.

thats the problem with lies, you have to keep making up new ones to cover the old ones.

 

[paperview]

Marine Corps Embassy Security Group

"In Every Clime and Place"



MCESG - Mission


The primary mission of the Marine Security Guard (MSG) is to provide internal security at designated U.S. diplomatic and consular facilities in order to prevent the compromise of classified material vital to the national security of the United States. The secondary mission of the MSG is to provide protection for U.S. citizens and U.S government property located within designated U.S. diplomatic and consular premises during exigent circumstances (urgent temporary circumstances which require immediate aid or action).

Marine Corps Embassy Security Group (MCESG) Region Commands report to the Commanding Officer of MCESG and exercise command, less operational supervision, of Marines assigned to the Marine Security Guard (MSG) detachments in their respective regions. The MCESG Region Headquarters ensure the continued training, operational readiness, personnel administration, logistical support, as well as the morale, welfare, and discipline of Marines assigned for duty to MSG detachments at designated U.S. diplomatic missions in order to support the Department of State in the protection of classified material at foreign posts.


The Commanding Officer of MCESG reports to the Commandant of the Marine Corps (CMC), exercising command, less operational supervision, of Marines assigned to MSG detachments. MCESG Headquarters is responsible for the screening, training, assignment, administration, logistical support of Marine Corps unique items, and discipline of Marines assigned to MCESG. The Commanding Officer, MCESG also commands those Marines assigned to Headquarters, MCESG, and MCESG regional headquarters, and is the Director, MSG School. MSG School provides suitability screening and formal training for selected Marines to perform duties as MSGs at foreign Service Missions."


http://www.mcesg.marines.mil/About/MCESGMission.aspx

Was the Benghazi attack on an Embassy? No.

Was the Benghazi attack on a Consulate office? No.

It was a CIA mission facility and annex.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Paperview. It is referred to as a consulate. Another name it was referred to as, was a "diplomatic mission." The CIA does not deal with foreign diplomacy, they collect intelligence, hence their name. Now you liberals resort to arguing about the name of the building that was destroyed in the attack. Desperate aren't we?