New POLL: 72% of Americans choose saving lives over the health of the U.S. Economy.

[2aguy]

New POLL: 72% of Americans choose saving lives over the health of the U.S. Economy.

Americans support drastic efforts to stop coronavirus, expect crisis to last for months in Public Agenda/USA TODAY/Ipsos poll
Joel Shannon, USA TODAY
USA TODAYApril 3, 2020, 4:30 AM EDT

The poll, conducted March 27-30 on behalf of Public Agenda and USA TODAY, surveyed U.S. adults as a part of the Hidden Common Ground initiative, which aims to examine issues that divide America along with potential solutions. The online poll has a credibility interval, akin to a margin of error, of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.
Americans choose saving lives over the health of the US economy
Clinton is among the majority (72%)of respondents who believe the government's priority should be saving lives by stopping the spread of the virus, as opposed to sparing the economy.

Only about 1 in 5 said the government's main priority should be saving the economy.

Americans support drastic efforts to stop coronavirus, expect crisis to last for months in Public Agenda/USA TODAY/Ipsos poll

Most Americans believe stopping the virus should be the U.S. government's top priority, even as social distancing measures ravage the economy.

www.yahoo.com

So Americans are economically retarded? Shocking. Wait till them bellies start grumbling...that shit will change Quickly....believe me....believe me.

In terms of business, food is a booming business. Grocery Stores are making record profits.

Food is free? When them bellies start grumbling...people are going to start saying 'fuck the sick, i need a job'.

No one is starving. Even the homeless don't starve. Plus government checks, 2 Trillion dollars worth are on the way. The essential services economy is booming and the government is still working. That's more than 50% of the economy right there.

That is hardly going to be sufficient if this shutdown lasts for a year, shit for brains.

He knows that, they want that........... FDR showed them the way....and the Great Depression was the tool they needed........this virus is exactly what they want...

 

[2aguy]

.they are literally drooling in anticipation of a Great Depression.....the Crisis they have all been waiting for, praying for to their god "Government...."

The Great Depression years were the high point of Liberalism here in America. They had this guy, FDR, who tried to fix everything. Established unemployment checks, social security, welfare checks, public housing projects and so much more. Didn't cure the economic woes however, the Friday before Japan pulled a Pearl Harbor job on us in Hawaii, we still had double digit unemployment.

Then government spending really kicked in after Pearl Harbor, and the United States turned into a Superpower!

Wrong.....we became a super power because the economies around the world were destroyed by the war.....we were the only industrialized country left....you doofus.....

The United States GDP levels achieved records never before achieved by any country in history. If it was just because of the destruction of the war, then the United States would have ceased being a super power by 1960!

Moron, we rebuilt those other countries.....they had to buy our manufactured goods.......you doofus......

 

[U2Edge]

New POLL: 72% of Americans choose saving lives over the health of the U.S. Economy.

Americans support drastic efforts to stop coronavirus, expect crisis to last for months in Public Agenda/USA TODAY/Ipsos poll
Joel Shannon, USA TODAY
USA TODAYApril 3, 2020, 4:30 AM EDT

The poll, conducted March 27-30 on behalf of Public Agenda and USA TODAY, surveyed U.S. adults as a part of the Hidden Common Ground initiative, which aims to examine issues that divide America along with potential solutions. The online poll has a credibility interval, akin to a margin of error, of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.
Americans choose saving lives over the health of the US economy
Clinton is among the majority (72%)of respondents who believe the government's priority should be saving lives by stopping the spread of the virus, as opposed to sparing the economy.

Only about 1 in 5 said the government's main priority should be saving the economy.

Americans support drastic efforts to stop coronavirus, expect crisis to last for months in Public Agenda/USA TODAY/Ipsos poll

Most Americans believe stopping the virus should be the U.S. government's top priority, even as social distancing measures ravage the economy.

www.yahoo.com

So Americans are economically retarded? Shocking. Wait till them bellies start grumbling...that shit will change Quickly....believe me....believe me.

In terms of business, food is a booming business. Grocery Stores are making record profits.

Food is free? When them bellies start grumbling...people are going to start saying 'fuck the sick, i need a job'.

No one is starving. Even the homeless don't starve. Plus government checks, 2 Trillion dollars worth are on the way. The essential services economy is booming and the government is still working. That's more than 50% of the economy right there.

That is hardly going to be sufficient if this shutdown lasts for a year, shit for brains.

In a country worth over 90 Trillion dollars where 80% of that wealth is held by the top 20%, it will be plenty.

 

[U2Edge]

.they are literally drooling in anticipation of a Great Depression.....the Crisis they have all been waiting for, praying for to their god "Government...."

The Great Depression years were the high point of Liberalism here in America. They had this guy, FDR, who tried to fix everything. Established unemployment checks, social security, welfare checks, public housing projects and so much more. Didn't cure the economic woes however, the Friday before Japan pulled a Pearl Harbor job on us in Hawaii, we still had double digit unemployment.

Then government spending really kicked in after Pearl Harbor, and the United States turned into a Superpower!

Wrong.....we became a super power because the economies around the world were destroyed by the war.....we were the only industrialized country left....you doofus.....

The United States GDP levels achieved records never before achieved by any country in history. If it was just because of the destruction of the war, then the United States would have ceased being a super power by 1960!

Moron, we rebuilt those other countries.....they had to buy our manufactured goods.......you doofus......

The world was rebuilt by 1960, so if what you said was so, then the United States would have stopped being a Super Power in 1960.

The United States was a Super Power in the summer of 1945, before anyone had paid the United States a single dime!

 

[bripat9643]

New POLL: 72% of Americans choose saving lives over the health of the U.S. Economy.

Americans support drastic efforts to stop coronavirus, expect crisis to last for months in Public Agenda/USA TODAY/Ipsos poll
Joel Shannon, USA TODAY
USA TODAYApril 3, 2020, 4:30 AM EDT

The poll, conducted March 27-30 on behalf of Public Agenda and USA TODAY, surveyed U.S. adults as a part of the Hidden Common Ground initiative, which aims to examine issues that divide America along with potential solutions. The online poll has a credibility interval, akin to a margin of error, of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.
Americans choose saving lives over the health of the US economy
Clinton is among the majority (72%)of respondents who believe the government's priority should be saving lives by stopping the spread of the virus, as opposed to sparing the economy.

Only about 1 in 5 said the government's main priority should be saving the economy.

Americans support drastic efforts to stop coronavirus, expect crisis to last for months in Public Agenda/USA TODAY/Ipsos poll

Most Americans believe stopping the virus should be the U.S. government's top priority, even as social distancing measures ravage the economy.

www.yahoo.com

So Americans are economically retarded? Shocking. Wait till them bellies start grumbling...that shit will change Quickly....believe me....believe me.

In terms of business, food is a booming business. Grocery Stores are making record profits.

Food is free? When them bellies start grumbling...people are going to start saying 'fuck the sick, i need a job'.

No one is starving. Even the homeless don't starve. Plus government checks, 2 Trillion dollars worth are on the way. The essential services economy is booming and the government is still working. That's more than 50% of the economy right there.

Moron.....you are hoping for the destruction.......

A Great Depression means no jobs, no money, you doofus.....that means no food, clothing or healthcare for millions of people....for possible decades......

But....that is just what you guys want and need........so you can enact government healthcare...where more people will die.....government control over the economy...which will keep people poor...

You guys are vile.

Democrats thrive on depressions. The more poor people there are, the more Democrats there are.

 

[bripat9643]

New POLL: 72% of Americans choose saving lives over the health of the U.S. Economy.

Americans support drastic efforts to stop coronavirus, expect crisis to last for months in Public Agenda/USA TODAY/Ipsos poll
Joel Shannon, USA TODAY
USA TODAYApril 3, 2020, 4:30 AM EDT

The poll, conducted March 27-30 on behalf of Public Agenda and USA TODAY, surveyed U.S. adults as a part of the Hidden Common Ground initiative, which aims to examine issues that divide America along with potential solutions. The online poll has a credibility interval, akin to a margin of error, of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.
Americans choose saving lives over the health of the US economy
Clinton is among the majority (72%)of respondents who believe the government's priority should be saving lives by stopping the spread of the virus, as opposed to sparing the economy.

Only about 1 in 5 said the government's main priority should be saving the economy.

Americans support drastic efforts to stop coronavirus, expect crisis to last for months in Public Agenda/USA TODAY/Ipsos poll

Most Americans believe stopping the virus should be the U.S. government's top priority, even as social distancing measures ravage the economy.

www.yahoo.com

So Americans are economically retarded? Shocking. Wait till them bellies start grumbling...that shit will change Quickly....believe me....believe me.

In terms of business, food is a booming business. Grocery Stores are making record profits.

Food is free? When them bellies start grumbling...people are going to start saying 'fuck the sick, i need a job'.

No one is starving. Even the homeless don't starve. Plus government checks, 2 Trillion dollars worth are on the way. The essential services economy is booming and the government is still working. That's more than 50% of the economy right there.

That is hardly going to be sufficient if this shutdown lasts for a year, shit for brains.

In a country worth over 90 Trillion dollars where 80% of that wealth is held by the top 20%, it will be plenty.

You're a fool.They may owe 80% of the wealth, but the rest of the population does 90% of the spending. They can's spend if they don't have a paycheck.

 

[U2Edge]

New POLL: 72% of Americans choose saving lives over the health of the U.S. Economy.

Americans support drastic efforts to stop coronavirus, expect crisis to last for months in Public Agenda/USA TODAY/Ipsos poll
Joel Shannon, USA TODAY
USA TODAYApril 3, 2020, 4:30 AM EDT

The poll, conducted March 27-30 on behalf of Public Agenda and USA TODAY, surveyed U.S. adults as a part of the Hidden Common Ground initiative, which aims to examine issues that divide America along with potential solutions. The online poll has a credibility interval, akin to a margin of error, of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.
Americans choose saving lives over the health of the US economy
Clinton is among the majority (72%)of respondents who believe the government's priority should be saving lives by stopping the spread of the virus, as opposed to sparing the economy.

Only about 1 in 5 said the government's main priority should be saving the economy.

Americans support drastic efforts to stop coronavirus, expect crisis to last for months in Public Agenda/USA TODAY/Ipsos poll

Most Americans believe stopping the virus should be the U.S. government's top priority, even as social distancing measures ravage the economy.

www.yahoo.com

So Americans are economically retarded? Shocking. Wait till them bellies start grumbling...that shit will change Quickly....believe me....believe me.

In terms of business, food is a booming business. Grocery Stores are making record profits.

Food is free? When them bellies start grumbling...people are going to start saying 'fuck the sick, i need a job'.

No one is starving. Even the homeless don't starve. Plus government checks, 2 Trillion dollars worth are on the way. The essential services economy is booming and the government is still working. That's more than 50% of the economy right there.

Moron.....you are hoping for the destruction.......

A Great Depression means no jobs, no money, you doofus.....that means no food, clothing or healthcare for millions of people....for possible decades......

But....that is just what you guys want and need........so you can enact government healthcare...where more people will die.....government control over the economy...which will keep people poor...

You guys are vile.

You don't understand the economy. The Economy is changing, that's all. Non-essential business had to shut down during World War II as well. United States citizens had to deal with rationing of supplies. But no one starved even though 1/3 of the work force had been sent overseas and was engaged in COMBAT instead of production.

 

[MisterBeale]

New POLL: 72% of Americans choose saving lives over the health of the U.S. Economy.

Americans support drastic efforts to stop coronavirus, expect crisis to last for months in Public Agenda/USA TODAY/Ipsos poll
Joel Shannon, USA TODAY
USA TODAYApril 3, 2020, 4:30 AM EDT

The poll, conducted March 27-30 on behalf of Public Agenda and USA TODAY, surveyed U.S. adults as a part of the Hidden Common Ground initiative, which aims to examine issues that divide America along with potential solutions. The online poll has a credibility interval, akin to a margin of error, of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.
Americans choose saving lives over the health of the US economy
Clinton is among the majority (72%)of respondents who believe the government's priority should be saving lives by stopping the spread of the virus, as opposed to sparing the economy.

Only about 1 in 5 said the government's main priority should be saving the economy.

Americans support drastic efforts to stop coronavirus, expect crisis to last for months in Public Agenda/USA TODAY/Ipsos poll

Most Americans believe stopping the virus should be the U.S. government's top priority, even as social distancing measures ravage the economy.

www.yahoo.com

What a lot of people may not realize is that it isn't an "either-or" proposition. A collapsed economy and the poverty that ensues will create huge numbers of deaths. And further, a ruined economy will make it near impossible to get a cure for coronavirus or other future pestilences, as the people will be living at a subsistence level.

Defeating the Pathogen as quickly as possible will actually help the economy more than hurt it. We don't want to repeat all the mistakes of the Spanish Flu in 1918. Back in 1918, San Francisco shut down and saved lives and the benefits were huge. The Flu was unable to really spread in San Francisco. By contrast Philadelphia held parades and did nothing and suffered tens of thousands of deaths. Bodies lying in the street and in homes. Children starving to death because their parents were dead and no one would come near them. Its sad were in the shape were in now given that the world has had 102 years to prepare for the next major pandemic. 102 years later and were back to dead bodies stacking up outside hospitals and people wearing masks. So little progress after so much time. We think were an advanced society, but in many ways were still stuck in the middle ages.

Could the Covid19 Response be More Deadly than the Virus? The economic, social and public health consequences of these measures could claim millions of victims

Could the Covid19 Response be More Deadly than the Virus?

Kevin Ryan The initial, alarming estimates of deaths from the virus COVID-19 were that as many as 2.2 million people would die in the United States. This number is comparable to the annual US death…

off-guardian.org

". . Conclusion

The total deaths attributable to the COVID-19 response, from just this limited examination, are estimated to be:

• Suicides 59,000
• Drug abuse 87,000
• Lack of medical coverage or treatment 1,350,000
• Poverty and food access 780,000

These estimates, totaling more than two million deaths above the estimated 150,000 expected from the virus itself, do not include other predictable issues with the COVID-19 response. An example is the lack of medical services as stated above. Other examples include the EPA’s suspension of environmental regulations. It has been estimated that the EPA’s Clean Air Act alone has saved 230,000 lives each year.

Moreover, the anticipated failure of the US Postal Service (USPS) will lead to more illness and death. The USPS “delivers about 1 million lifesaving medications each year and serves as the only delivery link to Americans living in rural areas.”

Even using these low estimates, however, we can see that the response will be much worse than the virus. The social devastation and economic scarring could last more than six years, with one expert predicting that it will be “long-lasting and calamitous.”

That expert has noted that he is not overly concerned with the virus itself because “as much as 99 percent of active cases [of COVID-19] in the general population are ‘mild’ and do not require specific medical treatment.”

Yet he is deeply concerned about the “the social, economic and public health consequences of this near total meltdown of normal life.” He suggests a better alternative is to focus only on those most susceptible to the virus. Others have reasonably suggested that only those who are known to be infected should self-quarantine.

Some public health professionals have been pleading with authorities to consider the implications of the unreasonable response. Many experts have spoken out publicly, criticizing the overreaction to COVID-19. A professor of medical microbiology, for example, has written an open letter to German Chancellor Merkel in an attempt to draw attention to the concerns.

The real problem we face today is not a virus. The greater problem is that people have failed to engage in critical thinking due to the fear promoted by some media and government officials. Fear is the mind killer, as author Frank Herbert once wrote. Ultimately, the fear of COVID-19 and the lack of critical thinking that has arisen from it are likely to cause far more deaths than the virus itself."
https://off-guardian.org/2020/04/01/could-the-covid19-response-be-more-deadly-than-the-virus/

 

[U2Edge]

New POLL: 72% of Americans choose saving lives over the health of the U.S. Economy.

Americans support drastic efforts to stop coronavirus, expect crisis to last for months in Public Agenda/USA TODAY/Ipsos poll
Joel Shannon, USA TODAY
USA TODAYApril 3, 2020, 4:30 AM EDT

The poll, conducted March 27-30 on behalf of Public Agenda and USA TODAY, surveyed U.S. adults as a part of the Hidden Common Ground initiative, which aims to examine issues that divide America along with potential solutions. The online poll has a credibility interval, akin to a margin of error, of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.
Americans choose saving lives over the health of the US economy
Clinton is among the majority (72%)of respondents who believe the government's priority should be saving lives by stopping the spread of the virus, as opposed to sparing the economy.

Only about 1 in 5 said the government's main priority should be saving the economy.

Americans support drastic efforts to stop coronavirus, expect crisis to last for months in Public Agenda/USA TODAY/Ipsos poll

Most Americans believe stopping the virus should be the U.S. government's top priority, even as social distancing measures ravage the economy.

www.yahoo.com

So Americans are economically retarded? Shocking. Wait till them bellies start grumbling...that shit will change Quickly....believe me....believe me.

In terms of business, food is a booming business. Grocery Stores are making record profits.

Food is free? When them bellies start grumbling...people are going to start saying 'fuck the sick, i need a job'.

No one is starving. Even the homeless don't starve. Plus government checks, 2 Trillion dollars worth are on the way. The essential services economy is booming and the government is still working. That's more than 50% of the economy right there.

That is hardly going to be sufficient if this shutdown lasts for a year, shit for brains.

In a country worth over 90 Trillion dollars where 80% of that wealth is held by the top 20%, it will be plenty.

You're a fool.They may owe 80% of the wealth, but the rest of the population does 90% of the spending. They can's spend if they don't have a paycheck.

2 Trillion dollars in Government checks on the way!

 

[whitehall]

What do you expect them to say when they are looking at their family while they are talking on the phone to a (slick) pollster who knows what buttons to push? Of course it doesn't tell the whole story when small businesses are going under, the DOW tanks and millions are on unemployment. It's a simplistic poll geared toward emotion rather than understanding like most stories these days.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The fact is they only shutdown for a month

That's not accurate. The cities with the most successful results shut down far longer than that. You're highlighting the problem with your own nonsense by pointing at the shutdowns back then.

 

[U2Edge]

New POLL: 72% of Americans choose saving lives over the health of the U.S. Economy.

Americans support drastic efforts to stop coronavirus, expect crisis to last for months in Public Agenda/USA TODAY/Ipsos poll
Joel Shannon, USA TODAY
USA TODAYApril 3, 2020, 4:30 AM EDT

The poll, conducted March 27-30 on behalf of Public Agenda and USA TODAY, surveyed U.S. adults as a part of the Hidden Common Ground initiative, which aims to examine issues that divide America along with potential solutions. The online poll has a credibility interval, akin to a margin of error, of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.
Americans choose saving lives over the health of the US economy
Clinton is among the majority (72%)of respondents who believe the government's priority should be saving lives by stopping the spread of the virus, as opposed to sparing the economy.

Only about 1 in 5 said the government's main priority should be saving the economy.

Americans support drastic efforts to stop coronavirus, expect crisis to last for months in Public Agenda/USA TODAY/Ipsos poll

Most Americans believe stopping the virus should be the U.S. government's top priority, even as social distancing measures ravage the economy.

www.yahoo.com

What a lot of people may not realize is that it isn't an "either-or" proposition. A collapsed economy and the poverty that ensues will create huge numbers of deaths. And further, a ruined economy will make it near impossible to get a cure for coronavirus or other future pestilences, as the people will be living at a subsistence level.

Defeating the Pathogen as quickly as possible will actually help the economy more than hurt it. We don't want to repeat all the mistakes of the Spanish Flu in 1918. Back in 1918, San Francisco shut down and saved lives and the benefits were huge. The Flu was unable to really spread in San Francisco. By contrast Philadelphia held parades and did nothing and suffered tens of thousands of deaths. Bodies lying in the street and in homes. Children starving to death because their parents were dead and no one would come near them. Its sad were in the shape were in now given that the world has had 102 years to prepare for the next major pandemic. 102 years later and were back to dead bodies stacking up outside hospitals and people wearing masks. So little progress after so much time. We think were an advanced society, but in many ways were still stuck in the middle ages.

Could the Covid19 Response be More Deadly than the Virus? The economic, social and public health consequences of these measures could claim millions of victims

Could the Covid19 Response be More Deadly than the Virus?

Kevin Ryan The initial, alarming estimates of deaths from the virus COVID-19 were that as many as 2.2 million people would die in the United States. This number is comparable to the annual US death…

off-guardian.org

". . Conclusion

The total deaths attributable to the COVID-19 response, from just this limited examination, are estimated to be:

• Suicides 59,000
• Drug abuse 87,000
• Lack of medical coverage or treatment 1,350,000
• Poverty and food access 780,000

These estimates, totaling more than two million deaths above the estimated 150,000 expected from the virus itself, do not include other predictable issues with the COVID-19 response. An example is the lack of medical services as stated above. Other examples include the EPA’s suspension of environmental regulations. It has been estimated that the EPA’s Clean Air Act alone has saved 230,000 lives each year.

Moreover, the anticipated failure of the US Postal Service (USPS) will lead to more illness and death. The USPS “delivers about 1 million lifesaving medications each year and serves as the only delivery link to Americans living in rural areas.”

Even using these low estimates, however, we can see that the response will be much worse than the virus. The social devastation and economic scarring could last more than six years, with one expert predicting that it will be “long-lasting and calamitous.”

That expert has noted that he is not overly concerned with the virus itself because “as much as 99 percent of active cases [of COVID-19] in the general population are ‘mild’ and do not require specific medical treatment.”

Yet he is deeply concerned about the “the social, economic and public health consequences of this near total meltdown of normal life.” He suggests a better alternative is to focus only on those most susceptible to the virus. Others have reasonably suggested that only those who are known to be infected should self-quarantine.

Some public health professionals have been pleading with authorities to consider the implications of the unreasonable response. Many experts have spoken out publicly, criticizing the overreaction to COVID-19. A professor of medical microbiology, for example, has written an open letter to German Chancellor Merkel in an attempt to draw attention to the concerns.

The real problem we face today is not a virus. The greater problem is that people have failed to engage in critical thinking due to the fear promoted by some media and government officials. Fear is the mind killer, as author Frank Herbert once wrote. Ultimately, the fear of COVID-19 and the lack of critical thinking that has arisen from it are likely to cause far more deaths than the virus itself."
https://off-guardian.org/2020/04/01/could-the-covid19-response-be-more-deadly-than-the-virus/

Thank God most people don't agree with that. Most Americans are focused on defeating the enemy which is the PATHOGEN! The least patriotic people are focused on their own money and don't care about the rest of the country.

 

[bripat9643]

.they are literally drooling in anticipation of a Great Depression.....the Crisis they have all been waiting for, praying for to their god "Government...."

The Great Depression years were the high point of Liberalism here in America. They had this guy, FDR, who tried to fix everything. Established unemployment checks, social security, welfare checks, public housing projects and so much more. Didn't cure the economic woes however, the Friday before Japan pulled a Pearl Harbor job on us in Hawaii, we still had double digit unemployment.

Then government spending really kicked in after Pearl Harbor, and the United States turned into a Superpower!

Wrong.....we became a super power because the economies around the world were destroyed by the war.....we were the only industrialized country left....you doofus.....

The United States GDP levels achieved records never before achieved by any country in history. If it was just because of the destruction of the war, then the United States would have ceased being a super power by 1960!

Moron, we rebuilt those other countries.....they had to buy our manufactured goods.......you doofus......

The world was rebuilt by 1960, so if what you said was so, then the United States would have stopped being a Super Power in 1960.

The United States was a Super Power in the summer of 1945, before anyone had paid the United States a single dime!

our economy was the same size in 1945 as it was in 1929, or even smaller. Unemployment was low during the war because all the working age men were sent off to fight the Nazis and the Japs. The war didn't do a thing to increase real GDP.

 

[bripat9643]

The fact is they only shutdown for a month

That's not accurate. The cities with the most successful results shut down far longer than that. You're highlighting the problem with your own nonsense by pointing at the shutdowns back then.

We're talking about the actual historical record of San Francisco. You're spouting fantasy.

 

[Obiwan]

Do these people think letting the economy crash will have no negative impact or cost lives just curious if they consider that. It's rather sad that we have become such an either or society and that we now believe we can't try and accomplish both keeping people safe and saving the economy.

Yes, no focus on slowing the curve. Because as we've been advised by an Orange Turd, MILLIONS would be committing suicide!

So why hasn’t the curve been flattened in NY, where #PresidentCuomo is in charge?

Doesn't have a damn thing to do with politics. It has to do with incompetency at the top.

Yeah, the Democratic leadership are complete MORONS.

Sorry - Governors are not at the top of the food chain Goober. The buck stops with fuckstain. HE is the one who labeled it a national emergency and yet continues to give the problem lip service at best. He's repeating GWB's mistake from Katrina. Blaming Governors and Mayors for his own ineptitude.

Acutally, I would say that some of the Democrats were "inept" during Katerina...

Ex-New Orleans mayor Ray Nagin sentenced to 10 years in prison

Ray Nagin - who was mayor during the 2005 Hurricane Katrina crisis - was convicted in February of accepting hundreds of thousands of dollars in money, free vacations and granite for his family business

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

We're talking about the actual historical record of San Francisco.

1 city. And I am talking about all cities. Because it's a pandemic, not a right wing nutball whine party.

 

[U2Edge]

New POLL: 72% of Americans choose saving lives over the health of the U.S. Economy.

Americans support drastic efforts to stop coronavirus, expect crisis to last for months in Public Agenda/USA TODAY/Ipsos poll
Joel Shannon, USA TODAY
USA TODAYApril 3, 2020, 4:30 AM EDT

The poll, conducted March 27-30 on behalf of Public Agenda and USA TODAY, surveyed U.S. adults as a part of the Hidden Common Ground initiative, which aims to examine issues that divide America along with potential solutions. The online poll has a credibility interval, akin to a margin of error, of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.
Americans choose saving lives over the health of the US economy
Clinton is among the majority (72%)of respondents who believe the government's priority should be saving lives by stopping the spread of the virus, as opposed to sparing the economy.

Only about 1 in 5 said the government's main priority should be saving the economy.

Americans support drastic efforts to stop coronavirus, expect crisis to last for months in Public Agenda/USA TODAY/Ipsos poll

Most Americans believe stopping the virus should be the U.S. government's top priority, even as social distancing measures ravage the economy.

www.yahoo.com

They don't know the information they need to answer that poll question, which is why they answered it the way they did.....

The destruction of the economy, pushed by the democrat members of the press and the democrat party.....will lead to more death and destruction than the virus.....this hasn't been explained to these people who only see barely one half of the question........

What happens during a decades or longer Great Depression? As you and the people around you can't find work, can't provide for your family, the alcoholism, the drug addiction, suicide, death and lost life chances for 10s of millions of Americans today and those not yet born?

The democrats want this destruction....it gives them power......their motto is evil....Never let a crisis go to waste.......because behind that motto is the action....creating and promoting the crisis so they can exploit it........that party is evil....to it's core.....racist, misogynist, violent....and willing to destroy a good, wonderful country simply to have power over it.....

The stay at home plan is designed to prevent the deaths of 2 million Americans this year. Most Americans care more about saving 2 million American lives that some selfish individuals wealth.

 

[MisterBeale]

New POLL: 72% of Americans choose saving lives over the health of the U.S. Economy.

Americans support drastic efforts to stop coronavirus, expect crisis to last for months in Public Agenda/USA TODAY/Ipsos poll
Joel Shannon, USA TODAY
USA TODAYApril 3, 2020, 4:30 AM EDT

The poll, conducted March 27-30 on behalf of Public Agenda and USA TODAY, surveyed U.S. adults as a part of the Hidden Common Ground initiative, which aims to examine issues that divide America along with potential solutions. The online poll has a credibility interval, akin to a margin of error, of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.
Americans choose saving lives over the health of the US economy
Clinton is among the majority (72%)of respondents who believe the government's priority should be saving lives by stopping the spread of the virus, as opposed to sparing the economy.

Only about 1 in 5 said the government's main priority should be saving the economy.

Americans support drastic efforts to stop coronavirus, expect crisis to last for months in Public Agenda/USA TODAY/Ipsos poll

Most Americans believe stopping the virus should be the U.S. government's top priority, even as social distancing measures ravage the economy.

www.yahoo.com

What a lot of people may not realize is that it isn't an "either-or" proposition. A collapsed economy and the poverty that ensues will create huge numbers of deaths. And further, a ruined economy will make it near impossible to get a cure for coronavirus or other future pestilences, as the people will be living at a subsistence level.

Defeating the Pathogen as quickly as possible will actually help the economy more than hurt it. We don't want to repeat all the mistakes of the Spanish Flu in 1918. Back in 1918, San Francisco shut down and saved lives and the benefits were huge. The Flu was unable to really spread in San Francisco. By contrast Philadelphia held parades and did nothing and suffered tens of thousands of deaths. Bodies lying in the street and in homes. Children starving to death because their parents were dead and no one would come near them. Its sad were in the shape were in now given that the world has had 102 years to prepare for the next major pandemic. 102 years later and were back to dead bodies stacking up outside hospitals and people wearing masks. So little progress after so much time. We think were an advanced society, but in many ways were still stuck in the middle ages.

Could the Covid19 Response be More Deadly than the Virus? The economic, social and public health consequences of these measures could claim millions of victims

Could the Covid19 Response be More Deadly than the Virus?

Kevin Ryan The initial, alarming estimates of deaths from the virus COVID-19 were that as many as 2.2 million people would die in the United States. This number is comparable to the annual US death…

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". . Conclusion

The total deaths attributable to the COVID-19 response, from just this limited examination, are estimated to be:

• Suicides 59,000
• Drug abuse 87,000
• Lack of medical coverage or treatment 1,350,000
• Poverty and food access 780,000

These estimates, totaling more than two million deaths above the estimated 150,000 expected from the virus itself, do not include other predictable issues with the COVID-19 response. An example is the lack of medical services as stated above. Other examples include the EPA’s suspension of environmental regulations. It has been estimated that the EPA’s Clean Air Act alone has saved 230,000 lives each year.

Moreover, the anticipated failure of the US Postal Service (USPS) will lead to more illness and death. The USPS “delivers about 1 million lifesaving medications each year and serves as the only delivery link to Americans living in rural areas.”

Even using these low estimates, however, we can see that the response will be much worse than the virus. The social devastation and economic scarring could last more than six years, with one expert predicting that it will be “long-lasting and calamitous.”

That expert has noted that he is not overly concerned with the virus itself because “as much as 99 percent of active cases [of COVID-19] in the general population are ‘mild’ and do not require specific medical treatment.”

Yet he is deeply concerned about the “the social, economic and public health consequences of this near total meltdown of normal life.” He suggests a better alternative is to focus only on those most susceptible to the virus. Others have reasonably suggested that only those who are known to be infected should self-quarantine.

Some public health professionals have been pleading with authorities to consider the implications of the unreasonable response. Many experts have spoken out publicly, criticizing the overreaction to COVID-19. A professor of medical microbiology, for example, has written an open letter to German Chancellor Merkel in an attempt to draw attention to the concerns.

The real problem we face today is not a virus. The greater problem is that people have failed to engage in critical thinking due to the fear promoted by some media and government officials. Fear is the mind killer, as author Frank Herbert once wrote. Ultimately, the fear of COVID-19 and the lack of critical thinking that has arisen from it are likely to cause far more deaths than the virus itself."
https://off-guardian.org/2020/04/01/could-the-covid19-response-be-more-deadly-than-the-virus/

Thank God most people don't agree with that. Most Americans are focused on defeating the enemy which is the PATHOGEN! The least patriotic people are focused on their own money and don't care about the rest of the country.

Most Americans are programed by the media, they don't have the ability to do any thinking for themselves. They will believe what ever they see on their TEE VEE's and march in lock step with what is on their social media, much like you.

This has nothing to do with money, it has to do with maintaining a well functioning civilization.

 

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New POLL: 72% of Americans choose saving lives over the health of the U.S. Economy.

Americans support drastic efforts to stop coronavirus, expect crisis to last for months in Public Agenda/USA TODAY/Ipsos poll
Joel Shannon, USA TODAY
USA TODAYApril 3, 2020, 4:30 AM EDT

The poll, conducted March 27-30 on behalf of Public Agenda and USA TODAY, surveyed U.S. adults as a part of the Hidden Common Ground initiative, which aims to examine issues that divide America along with potential solutions. The online poll has a credibility interval, akin to a margin of error, of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.
Americans choose saving lives over the health of the US economy
Clinton is among the majority (72%)of respondents who believe the government's priority should be saving lives by stopping the spread of the virus, as opposed to sparing the economy.

Only about 1 in 5 said the government's main priority should be saving the economy.

Americans support drastic efforts to stop coronavirus, expect crisis to last for months in Public Agenda/USA TODAY/Ipsos poll

Most Americans believe stopping the virus should be the U.S. government's top priority, even as social distancing measures ravage the economy.

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So Americans are economically retarded? Shocking. Wait till them bellies start grumbling...that shit will change Quickly....believe me....believe me.

In terms of business, food is a booming business. Grocery Stores are making record profits.

Food is free? When them bellies start grumbling...people are going to start saying 'fuck the sick, i need a job'.

No one is starving. Even the homeless don't starve. Plus government checks, 2 Trillion dollars worth are on the way. The essential services economy is booming and the government is still working. That's more than 50% of the economy right there.

That is hardly going to be sufficient if this shutdown lasts for a year, shit for brains.

In a country worth over 90 Trillion dollars where 80% of that wealth is held by the top 20%, it will be plenty.

You're a fool.They may owe 80% of the wealth, but the rest of the population does 90% of the spending. They can's spend if they don't have a paycheck.

2 Trillion dollars in Government checks on the way!

Then what happens next month, moron?

 

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New POLL: 72% of Americans choose saving lives over the health of the U.S. Economy.

Americans support drastic efforts to stop coronavirus, expect crisis to last for months in Public Agenda/USA TODAY/Ipsos poll
Joel Shannon, USA TODAY
USA TODAYApril 3, 2020, 4:30 AM EDT

The poll, conducted March 27-30 on behalf of Public Agenda and USA TODAY, surveyed U.S. adults as a part of the Hidden Common Ground initiative, which aims to examine issues that divide America along with potential solutions. The online poll has a credibility interval, akin to a margin of error, of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.
Americans choose saving lives over the health of the US economy
Clinton is among the majority (72%)of respondents who believe the government's priority should be saving lives by stopping the spread of the virus, as opposed to sparing the economy.

Only about 1 in 5 said the government's main priority should be saving the economy.

Americans support drastic efforts to stop coronavirus, expect crisis to last for months in Public Agenda/USA TODAY/Ipsos poll

Most Americans believe stopping the virus should be the U.S. government's top priority, even as social distancing measures ravage the economy.

www.yahoo.com

So Americans are economically retarded? Shocking. Wait till them bellies start grumbling...that shit will change Quickly....believe me....believe me.

In terms of business, food is a booming business. Grocery Stores are making record profits.

Food is free? When them bellies start grumbling...people are going to start saying 'fuck the sick, i need a job'.

No one is starving. Even the homeless don't starve. Plus government checks, 2 Trillion dollars worth are on the way. The essential services economy is booming and the government is still working. That's more than 50% of the economy right there.

Moron.....you are hoping for the destruction.......

A Great Depression means no jobs, no money, you doofus.....that means no food, clothing or healthcare for millions of people....for possible decades......

But....that is just what you guys want and need........so you can enact government healthcare...where more people will die.....government control over the economy...which will keep people poor...

You guys are vile.

You don't understand the economy. The Economy is changing, that's all. Non-essential business had to shut down during World War II as well. United States citizens had to deal with rationing of supplies. But no one starved even though 1/3 of the work force had been sent overseas and was engaged in COMBAT instead of production.

You are either dumb, or a lying ass............this isn't a war, and a Great Depression means people don't have jobs, you doofus.........they don't have money.......they aren't buying food, or clothes, or toys...........and it isn't the government simply redirecting things to the military, they don't exist........ the local restauarants are all likely to close down......even with their employees getting payments, they can't afford the rent, the stock, or all the other things they need to spend money on to provide to customers because their customers won't be shopping eating or buy things.......you doofus....