New York OKs $15 minimum wage for fast-food workers

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

DTMB, do you admit that if welfare weren't available for low wage workers, these companies would be forced to pay higher wages?

No they would not. Those jobs would go to teenagers. It's an ENTRY LEVEL job that requires no skill. If you're an adult and you have no skills- fuck off.

Ideally, yes. But the reality is we are not going to just tell no skilled adults to fuck off. So let's deal with reality shall we? Would you rather make companies pay a reasonable wage, or pay out welfare?

Those are your options. Your pie in the sky "fuck idiots" attitude is exactly how morons like Obama get in office. I posted last year that if conservatives had any brains at all, they would have started pushing for a $10 min wage IMMEDIATELY , and cut the "$15 an hour" people off at the knees.

But nope, conservatives get dumber by the day and just insist that they aren't going to do shit, so now the min wage IS going to go to $15 an hour, as predicted.

You dumb fucks are morons.

Let's just cut your silly argument off at the knees, shall we?

Among those paid by the hour, 1.6 million earned exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 2.0 million had wages below the federal minimum. Together, these 3.6 million workers with wages at or below the federal minimum made up 4.7 percent of all hourly paid worker
​

4.7% . that's roughly 1 in 20 people.

Approximately 20.9 million American adults, or about 9.5 percent of the U.S. population age 18 and older in a given year, have a mood disorder. The median age of onset for mood disorders is 30 years. Depressive disorders often co-occur with anxiety disorders and substance abuse. Major Depressive Disorder.
​

9.5% that's roughly 1 in 10.

Bottom line- No adult makes minimum wage for very long unless they are mentally challenged, on drugs, or completely worthless. In fact, hardly anyone in this country makes "minimum wage". Rendering your argument null and void. Thanks for playing.

Ok let's cut you like the bitch you are.

The US poverty level in the US is currently $11,888. The marker for welfare is 140% of the poverty threshold. Meaning of course you can (were talking a single person here) earn $11,888 * 140% or $16643 per year and still qualify for welfare.

There are 2080 hours in a work year . A little simple math tells us that anyone making $8 an hour or LESS as a single person qualifies for welfare. And that is before any allowable deductions they make to adjust your income. I believe last I read it works out to about $.70 per hour , so that if you are making $8.70 per hour or less and working full time you can still qualify for welfare.

Making your remarks about minimum wage workers completely null and void since we are not talking about JUST minimum wage workers here. We're talking about almost every adult worker who is currently earning <$10 an hour.

 

[sear]

I was listening to NPR this evening and heard Governor Cuomo passionately delivering a speech which seems to indicate he intends to render $15/hr the minimum wage New York Statewide.

I know there will be winners & losers. But I would expect such increase to be inflationary.

 

[sear]

PS
SB #81

"Most poor people are making more than the minimum wage, and most people making the minimum wage are not poor people, they're students and other part time workers." George Will

 

[Brain357]

DTMB, do you admit that if welfare weren't available for low wage workers, these companies would be forced to pay higher wages?

No they would not. Those jobs would go to teenagers. It's an ENTRY LEVEL job that requires no skill. If you're an adult and you have no skills- fuck off.

Ideally, yes. But the reality is we are not going to just tell no skilled adults to fuck off. So let's deal with reality shall we? Would you rather make companies pay a reasonable wage, or pay out welfare?

Those are your options. Your pie in the sky "fuck idiots" attitude is exactly how morons like Obama get in office. I posted last year that if conservatives had any brains at all, they would have started pushing for a $10 min wage IMMEDIATELY , and cut the "$15 an hour" people off at the knees.

But nope, conservatives get dumber by the day and just insist that they aren't going to do shit, so now the min wage IS going to go to $15 an hour, as predicted.

You dumb fucks are morons.

Let's just cut your silly argument off at the knees, shall we?

Among those paid by the hour, 1.6 million earned exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 2.0 million had wages below the federal minimum. Together, these 3.6 million workers with wages at or below the federal minimum made up 4.7 percent of all hourly paid worker
​

4.7% . that's roughly 1 in 20 people.

Approximately 20.9 million American adults, or about 9.5 percent of the U.S. population age 18 and older in a given year, have a mood disorder. The median age of onset for mood disorders is 30 years. Depressive disorders often co-occur with anxiety disorders and substance abuse. Major Depressive Disorder.
​

9.5% that's roughly 1 in 10.

Bottom line- No adult makes minimum wage for very long unless they are mentally challenged, on drugs, or completely worthless. In fact, hardly anyone in this country makes "minimum wage". Rendering your argument null and void. Thanks for playing.

Ok let's cut you like the bitch you are.

The US poverty level in the US is currently $11,888. The marker for welfare is 140% of the poverty threshold. Meaning of course you can (were talking a single person here) earn $11,888 * 140% or $16643 per year and still qualify for welfare.

There are 2080 hours in a work year . A little simple math tells us that anyone making $8 an hour or LESS as a single person qualifies for welfare. And that is before any allowable deductions they make to adjust your income. I believe last I read it works out to about $.70 per hour , so that if you are making $8.70 per hour or less and working full time you can still qualify for welfare.

Making your remarks about minimum wage workers completely null and void since we are not talking about JUST minimum wage workers here. We're talking about almost every adult worker who is currently earning <$10 an hour.

Min wage increases aren't optimum, but they sure beat paying out welfare. Increase min wage and that money goes directly from employer to worker. Welfare is collected in taxes and redistributed by the government. Lotta waste in that.

 

[Zander]

DTMB, do you admit that if welfare weren't available for low wage workers, these companies would be forced to pay higher wages?

No they would not. Those jobs would go to teenagers. It's an ENTRY LEVEL job that requires no skill. If you're an adult and you have no skills- fuck off.

Ideally, yes. But the reality is we are not going to just tell no skilled adults to fuck off. So let's deal with reality shall we? Would you rather make companies pay a reasonable wage, or pay out welfare?

Those are your options. Your pie in the sky "fuck idiots" attitude is exactly how morons like Obama get in office. I posted last year that if conservatives had any brains at all, they would have started pushing for a $10 min wage IMMEDIATELY , and cut the "$15 an hour" people off at the knees.

But nope, conservatives get dumber by the day and just insist that they aren't going to do shit, so now the min wage IS going to go to $15 an hour, as predicted.

You dumb fucks are morons.

Let's just cut your silly argument off at the knees, shall we?

Among those paid by the hour, 1.6 million earned exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 2.0 million had wages below the federal minimum. Together, these 3.6 million workers with wages at or below the federal minimum made up 4.7 percent of all hourly paid worker
​

4.7% . that's roughly 1 in 20 people.

Approximately 20.9 million American adults, or about 9.5 percent of the U.S. population age 18 and older in a given year, have a mood disorder. The median age of onset for mood disorders is 30 years. Depressive disorders often co-occur with anxiety disorders and substance abuse. Major Depressive Disorder.
​

9.5% that's roughly 1 in 10.

Bottom line- No adult makes minimum wage for very long unless they are mentally challenged, on drugs, or completely worthless. In fact, hardly anyone in this country makes "minimum wage". Rendering your argument null and void. Thanks for playing.

Ok let's cut you like the bitch you are.

The US poverty level in the US is currently $11,888. The marker for welfare is 140% of the poverty threshold. Meaning of course you can (were talking a single person here) earn $11,888 * 140% or $16643 per year and still qualify for welfare.

There are 2080 hours in a work year . A little simple math tells us that anyone making $8 an hour or LESS as a single person qualifies for welfare. And that is before any allowable deductions they make to adjust your income. I believe last I read it works out to about $.70 per hour , so that if you are making $8.70 per hour or less and working full time you can still qualify for welfare.

Making your remarks about minimum wage workers completely null and void since we are not talking about JUST minimum wage workers here. We're talking about almost every adult worker who is currently earning <$10 an hour.

Boohoo....cry me a fucking river.

If you won the life lottery and were born in the USA , "the land of opportunity" and you still need a fucking handout- you're a FUCKING LOSER.

Welfare is for retards, orphans, and cripples. It's not a lifestyle unless you're a LOSER. In which case you can FUCK OFF.

Reform welfare.

 

[Zander]

...

 

[Brain357]

DTMB, do you admit that if welfare weren't available for low wage workers, these companies would be forced to pay higher wages?

No they would not. Those jobs would go to teenagers. It's an ENTRY LEVEL job that requires no skill. If you're an adult and you have no skills- fuck off.

Ideally, yes. But the reality is we are not going to just tell no skilled adults to fuck off. So let's deal with reality shall we? Would you rather make companies pay a reasonable wage, or pay out welfare?

Those are your options. Your pie in the sky "fuck idiots" attitude is exactly how morons like Obama get in office. I posted last year that if conservatives had any brains at all, they would have started pushing for a $10 min wage IMMEDIATELY , and cut the "$15 an hour" people off at the knees.

But nope, conservatives get dumber by the day and just insist that they aren't going to do shit, so now the min wage IS going to go to $15 an hour, as predicted.

You dumb fucks are morons.

Let's just cut your silly argument off at the knees, shall we?

Among those paid by the hour, 1.6 million earned exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 2.0 million had wages below the federal minimum. Together, these 3.6 million workers with wages at or below the federal minimum made up 4.7 percent of all hourly paid worker
​

4.7% . that's roughly 1 in 20 people.

Approximately 20.9 million American adults, or about 9.5 percent of the U.S. population age 18 and older in a given year, have a mood disorder. The median age of onset for mood disorders is 30 years. Depressive disorders often co-occur with anxiety disorders and substance abuse. Major Depressive Disorder.
​

9.5% that's roughly 1 in 10.

Bottom line- No adult makes minimum wage for very long unless they are mentally challenged, on drugs, or completely worthless. In fact, hardly anyone in this country makes "minimum wage". Rendering your argument null and void. Thanks for playing.

Ok let's cut you like the bitch you are.

The US poverty level in the US is currently $11,888. The marker for welfare is 140% of the poverty threshold. Meaning of course you can (were talking a single person here) earn $11,888 * 140% or $16643 per year and still qualify for welfare.

There are 2080 hours in a work year . A little simple math tells us that anyone making $8 an hour or LESS as a single person qualifies for welfare. And that is before any allowable deductions they make to adjust your income. I believe last I read it works out to about $.70 per hour , so that if you are making $8.70 per hour or less and working full time you can still qualify for welfare.

Making your remarks about minimum wage workers completely null and void since we are not talking about JUST minimum wage workers here. We're talking about almost every adult worker who is currently earning <$10 an hour.

Boohoo....cry me a fucking river.

If you won the life lottery and were born in the USA , "the land of opportunity" and you still need a fucking handout- you're a FUCKING LOSER.

Welfare is for retards, orphans, and cripples. It's not a lifestyle unless you're a LOSER. In which case you can FUCK OFF.

You realize those people can vote right? And it seems to be a growing group of people. Your fuck off plan isn't very realistic in a country that votes.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

DTMB, do you admit that if welfare weren't available for low wage workers, these companies would be forced to pay higher wages?

No they would not. Those jobs would go to teenagers. It's an ENTRY LEVEL job that requires no skill. If you're an adult and you have no skills- fuck off.

Ideally, yes. But the reality is we are not going to just tell no skilled adults to fuck off. So let's deal with reality shall we? Would you rather make companies pay a reasonable wage, or pay out welfare?

Those are your options. Your pie in the sky "fuck idiots" attitude is exactly how morons like Obama get in office. I posted last year that if conservatives had any brains at all, they would have started pushing for a $10 min wage IMMEDIATELY , and cut the "$15 an hour" people off at the knees.

But nope, conservatives get dumber by the day and just insist that they aren't going to do shit, so now the min wage IS going to go to $15 an hour, as predicted.

You dumb fucks are morons.

Let's just cut your silly argument off at the knees, shall we?

Among those paid by the hour, 1.6 million earned exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 2.0 million had wages below the federal minimum. Together, these 3.6 million workers with wages at or below the federal minimum made up 4.7 percent of all hourly paid worker
​

4.7% . that's roughly 1 in 20 people.

Approximately 20.9 million American adults, or about 9.5 percent of the U.S. population age 18 and older in a given year, have a mood disorder. The median age of onset for mood disorders is 30 years. Depressive disorders often co-occur with anxiety disorders and substance abuse. Major Depressive Disorder.
​

9.5% that's roughly 1 in 10.

Bottom line- No adult makes minimum wage for very long unless they are mentally challenged, on drugs, or completely worthless. In fact, hardly anyone in this country makes "minimum wage". Rendering your argument null and void. Thanks for playing.

Ok let's cut you like the bitch you are.

The US poverty level in the US is currently $11,888. The marker for welfare is 140% of the poverty threshold. Meaning of course you can (were talking a single person here) earn $11,888 * 140% or $16643 per year and still qualify for welfare.

There are 2080 hours in a work year . A little simple math tells us that anyone making $8 an hour or LESS as a single person qualifies for welfare. And that is before any allowable deductions they make to adjust your income. I believe last I read it works out to about $.70 per hour , so that if you are making $8.70 per hour or less and working full time you can still qualify for welfare.

Making your remarks about minimum wage workers completely null and void since we are not talking about JUST minimum wage workers here. We're talking about almost every adult worker who is currently earning <$10 an hour.

Boohoo....cry me a fucking river.

If you won the life lottery and were born in the USA , "the land of opportunity" and you still need a fucking handout- you're a FUCKING LOSER.

Welfare is for retards, orphans, and cripples. It's not a lifestyle unless you're a LOSER. In which case you can FUCK OFF.

Which is a prime example of why exactly no one of any import gives one shit about what YOU think on ANY topic.

For fuck's sakes man. Welfare has a lot of fraud and waste, but don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

Plus , as you're bitching about welfare you are bitching about making companies pay more in wages would get more people off welfare.

ARE YOU THAT GOD DAMNED STUPID?

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

No they would not. Those jobs would go to teenagers. It's an ENTRY LEVEL job that requires no skill. If you're an adult and you have no skills- fuck off.

Ideally, yes. But the reality is we are not going to just tell no skilled adults to fuck off. So let's deal with reality shall we? Would you rather make companies pay a reasonable wage, or pay out welfare?

Those are your options. Your pie in the sky "fuck idiots" attitude is exactly how morons like Obama get in office. I posted last year that if conservatives had any brains at all, they would have started pushing for a $10 min wage IMMEDIATELY , and cut the "$15 an hour" people off at the knees.

But nope, conservatives get dumber by the day and just insist that they aren't going to do shit, so now the min wage IS going to go to $15 an hour, as predicted.

You dumb fucks are morons.

Let's just cut your silly argument off at the knees, shall we?

Among those paid by the hour, 1.6 million earned exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 2.0 million had wages below the federal minimum. Together, these 3.6 million workers with wages at or below the federal minimum made up 4.7 percent of all hourly paid worker
​

4.7% . that's roughly 1 in 20 people.

Approximately 20.9 million American adults, or about 9.5 percent of the U.S. population age 18 and older in a given year, have a mood disorder. The median age of onset for mood disorders is 30 years. Depressive disorders often co-occur with anxiety disorders and substance abuse. Major Depressive Disorder.
​

9.5% that's roughly 1 in 10.

Bottom line- No adult makes minimum wage for very long unless they are mentally challenged, on drugs, or completely worthless. In fact, hardly anyone in this country makes "minimum wage". Rendering your argument null and void. Thanks for playing.

Ok let's cut you like the bitch you are.

The US poverty level in the US is currently $11,888. The marker for welfare is 140% of the poverty threshold. Meaning of course you can (were talking a single person here) earn $11,888 * 140% or $16643 per year and still qualify for welfare.

There are 2080 hours in a work year . A little simple math tells us that anyone making $8 an hour or LESS as a single person qualifies for welfare. And that is before any allowable deductions they make to adjust your income. I believe last I read it works out to about $.70 per hour , so that if you are making $8.70 per hour or less and working full time you can still qualify for welfare.

Making your remarks about minimum wage workers completely null and void since we are not talking about JUST minimum wage workers here. We're talking about almost every adult worker who is currently earning <$10 an hour.

Boohoo....cry me a fucking river.

If you won the life lottery and were born in the USA , "the land of opportunity" and you still need a fucking handout- you're a FUCKING LOSER.

Welfare is for retards, orphans, and cripples. It's not a lifestyle unless you're a LOSER. In which case you can FUCK OFF.

You realize those people can vote right? And it seems to be a growing group of people. Your fuck off plan isn't very realistic in a country that votes.

to be fair, I don't believe anyone who has been on government assistance for 2 out of 4 years prior to an election ought be allowed to vote.

This idea of every person gets a vote is destroying this country. You truly can not just continue letting half the country vote to make the other half give them free shit.

 

[Zander]

No they would not. Those jobs would go to teenagers. It's an ENTRY LEVEL job that requires no skill. If you're an adult and you have no skills- fuck off.

Ideally, yes. But the reality is we are not going to just tell no skilled adults to fuck off. So let's deal with reality shall we? Would you rather make companies pay a reasonable wage, or pay out welfare?

Those are your options. Your pie in the sky "fuck idiots" attitude is exactly how morons like Obama get in office. I posted last year that if conservatives had any brains at all, they would have started pushing for a $10 min wage IMMEDIATELY , and cut the "$15 an hour" people off at the knees.

But nope, conservatives get dumber by the day and just insist that they aren't going to do shit, so now the min wage IS going to go to $15 an hour, as predicted.

You dumb fucks are morons.

Let's just cut your silly argument off at the knees, shall we?

Among those paid by the hour, 1.6 million earned exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 2.0 million had wages below the federal minimum. Together, these 3.6 million workers with wages at or below the federal minimum made up 4.7 percent of all hourly paid worker
​

4.7% . that's roughly 1 in 20 people.

Approximately 20.9 million American adults, or about 9.5 percent of the U.S. population age 18 and older in a given year, have a mood disorder. The median age of onset for mood disorders is 30 years. Depressive disorders often co-occur with anxiety disorders and substance abuse. Major Depressive Disorder.
​

9.5% that's roughly 1 in 10.

Bottom line- No adult makes minimum wage for very long unless they are mentally challenged, on drugs, or completely worthless. In fact, hardly anyone in this country makes "minimum wage". Rendering your argument null and void. Thanks for playing.

Ok let's cut you like the bitch you are.

The US poverty level in the US is currently $11,888. The marker for welfare is 140% of the poverty threshold. Meaning of course you can (were talking a single person here) earn $11,888 * 140% or $16643 per year and still qualify for welfare.

There are 2080 hours in a work year . A little simple math tells us that anyone making $8 an hour or LESS as a single person qualifies for welfare. And that is before any allowable deductions they make to adjust your income. I believe last I read it works out to about $.70 per hour , so that if you are making $8.70 per hour or less and working full time you can still qualify for welfare.

Making your remarks about minimum wage workers completely null and void since we are not talking about JUST minimum wage workers here. We're talking about almost every adult worker who is currently earning <$10 an hour.

Boohoo....cry me a fucking river.

If you won the life lottery and were born in the USA , "the land of opportunity" and you still need a fucking handout- you're a FUCKING LOSER.

Welfare is for retards, orphans, and cripples. It's not a lifestyle unless you're a LOSER. In which case you can FUCK OFF.

You realize those people can vote right? And it seems to be a growing group of people. Your fuck off plan isn't very realistic in a country that votes.

They already vote- for democrats.Guess what? We've had 7 years of "hope and change" - wages have gone down. Incomes have DECLINED!!!!!!!!!

 

[dblack]

Ideally, yes. But the reality is we are not going to just tell no skilled adults to fuck off. So let's deal with reality shall we? Would you rather make companies pay a reasonable wage, or pay out welfare?

Those are your options. Your pie in the sky "fuck idiots" attitude is exactly how morons like Obama get in office. I posted last year that if conservatives had any brains at all, they would have started pushing for a $10 min wage IMMEDIATELY , and cut the "$15 an hour" people off at the knees.

But nope, conservatives get dumber by the day and just insist that they aren't going to do shit, so now the min wage IS going to go to $15 an hour, as predicted.

You dumb fucks are morons.

Let's just cut your silly argument off at the knees, shall we?

Among those paid by the hour, 1.6 million earned exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 2.0 million had wages below the federal minimum. Together, these 3.6 million workers with wages at or below the federal minimum made up 4.7 percent of all hourly paid worker
​

4.7% . that's roughly 1 in 20 people.

Approximately 20.9 million American adults, or about 9.5 percent of the U.S. population age 18 and older in a given year, have a mood disorder. The median age of onset for mood disorders is 30 years. Depressive disorders often co-occur with anxiety disorders and substance abuse. Major Depressive Disorder.
​

9.5% that's roughly 1 in 10.

Bottom line- No adult makes minimum wage for very long unless they are mentally challenged, on drugs, or completely worthless. In fact, hardly anyone in this country makes "minimum wage". Rendering your argument null and void. Thanks for playing.

Ok let's cut you like the bitch you are.

The US poverty level in the US is currently $11,888. The marker for welfare is 140% of the poverty threshold. Meaning of course you can (were talking a single person here) earn $11,888 * 140% or $16643 per year and still qualify for welfare.

There are 2080 hours in a work year . A little simple math tells us that anyone making $8 an hour or LESS as a single person qualifies for welfare. And that is before any allowable deductions they make to adjust your income. I believe last I read it works out to about $.70 per hour , so that if you are making $8.70 per hour or less and working full time you can still qualify for welfare.

Making your remarks about minimum wage workers completely null and void since we are not talking about JUST minimum wage workers here. We're talking about almost every adult worker who is currently earning <$10 an hour.

Boohoo....cry me a fucking river.

If you won the life lottery and were born in the USA , "the land of opportunity" and you still need a fucking handout- you're a FUCKING LOSER.

Welfare is for retards, orphans, and cripples. It's not a lifestyle unless you're a LOSER. In which case you can FUCK OFF.

You realize those people can vote right? And it seems to be a growing group of people. Your fuck off plan isn't very realistic in a country that votes.

to be fair, I don't believe anyone who has been on government assistance for 2 out of 4 years prior to an election ought be allowed to vote.

This idea of every person gets a vote is destroying this country. You truly can not just continue letting half the country vote to make the other half give them free shit.

Well, sure. That's the whole point of welfare, institutionalized slavery. Take away their rights and lord it over them in exchange for a bowl of soup.

 

[Brain357]

Ideally, yes. But the reality is we are not going to just tell no skilled adults to fuck off. So let's deal with reality shall we? Would you rather make companies pay a reasonable wage, or pay out welfare?

Those are your options. Your pie in the sky "fuck idiots" attitude is exactly how morons like Obama get in office. I posted last year that if conservatives had any brains at all, they would have started pushing for a $10 min wage IMMEDIATELY , and cut the "$15 an hour" people off at the knees.

But nope, conservatives get dumber by the day and just insist that they aren't going to do shit, so now the min wage IS going to go to $15 an hour, as predicted.

You dumb fucks are morons.

Let's just cut your silly argument off at the knees, shall we?

Among those paid by the hour, 1.6 million earned exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 2.0 million had wages below the federal minimum. Together, these 3.6 million workers with wages at or below the federal minimum made up 4.7 percent of all hourly paid worker
​

4.7% . that's roughly 1 in 20 people.

Approximately 20.9 million American adults, or about 9.5 percent of the U.S. population age 18 and older in a given year, have a mood disorder. The median age of onset for mood disorders is 30 years. Depressive disorders often co-occur with anxiety disorders and substance abuse. Major Depressive Disorder.
​

9.5% that's roughly 1 in 10.

Bottom line- No adult makes minimum wage for very long unless they are mentally challenged, on drugs, or completely worthless. In fact, hardly anyone in this country makes "minimum wage". Rendering your argument null and void. Thanks for playing.

Ok let's cut you like the bitch you are.

The US poverty level in the US is currently $11,888. The marker for welfare is 140% of the poverty threshold. Meaning of course you can (were talking a single person here) earn $11,888 * 140% or $16643 per year and still qualify for welfare.

There are 2080 hours in a work year . A little simple math tells us that anyone making $8 an hour or LESS as a single person qualifies for welfare. And that is before any allowable deductions they make to adjust your income. I believe last I read it works out to about $.70 per hour , so that if you are making $8.70 per hour or less and working full time you can still qualify for welfare.

Making your remarks about minimum wage workers completely null and void since we are not talking about JUST minimum wage workers here. We're talking about almost every adult worker who is currently earning <$10 an hour.

Boohoo....cry me a fucking river.

If you won the life lottery and were born in the USA , "the land of opportunity" and you still need a fucking handout- you're a FUCKING LOSER.

Welfare is for retards, orphans, and cripples. It's not a lifestyle unless you're a LOSER. In which case you can FUCK OFF.

You realize those people can vote right? And it seems to be a growing group of people. Your fuck off plan isn't very realistic in a country that votes.

to be fair, I don't believe anyone who has been on government assistance for 2 out of 4 years prior to an election ought be allowed to vote.

This idea of every person gets a vote is destroying this country. You truly can not just continue letting half the country vote to make the other half give them free shit.

I am not saying it is right or fair, just reality.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Zander, let me ask you a question.

Suppose EVERY adult in America had a PhD in astrophysics, would that solve the poverty problem in this country? Why or why not?

 

[Zander]

No they would not. Those jobs would go to teenagers. It's an ENTRY LEVEL job that requires no skill. If you're an adult and you have no skills- fuck off.

Ideally, yes. But the reality is we are not going to just tell no skilled adults to fuck off. So let's deal with reality shall we? Would you rather make companies pay a reasonable wage, or pay out welfare?

Those are your options. Your pie in the sky "fuck idiots" attitude is exactly how morons like Obama get in office. I posted last year that if conservatives had any brains at all, they would have started pushing for a $10 min wage IMMEDIATELY , and cut the "$15 an hour" people off at the knees.

But nope, conservatives get dumber by the day and just insist that they aren't going to do shit, so now the min wage IS going to go to $15 an hour, as predicted.

You dumb fucks are morons.

Let's just cut your silly argument off at the knees, shall we?

Among those paid by the hour, 1.6 million earned exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 2.0 million had wages below the federal minimum. Together, these 3.6 million workers with wages at or below the federal minimum made up 4.7 percent of all hourly paid worker
​

4.7% . that's roughly 1 in 20 people.

Approximately 20.9 million American adults, or about 9.5 percent of the U.S. population age 18 and older in a given year, have a mood disorder. The median age of onset for mood disorders is 30 years. Depressive disorders often co-occur with anxiety disorders and substance abuse. Major Depressive Disorder.
​

9.5% that's roughly 1 in 10.

Bottom line- No adult makes minimum wage for very long unless they are mentally challenged, on drugs, or completely worthless. In fact, hardly anyone in this country makes "minimum wage". Rendering your argument null and void. Thanks for playing.

Ok let's cut you like the bitch you are.

The US poverty level in the US is currently $11,888. The marker for welfare is 140% of the poverty threshold. Meaning of course you can (were talking a single person here) earn $11,888 * 140% or $16643 per year and still qualify for welfare.

There are 2080 hours in a work year . A little simple math tells us that anyone making $8 an hour or LESS as a single person qualifies for welfare. And that is before any allowable deductions they make to adjust your income. I believe last I read it works out to about $.70 per hour , so that if you are making $8.70 per hour or less and working full time you can still qualify for welfare.

Making your remarks about minimum wage workers completely null and void since we are not talking about JUST minimum wage workers here. We're talking about almost every adult worker who is currently earning <$10 an hour.

Boohoo....cry me a fucking river.

If you won the life lottery and were born in the USA , "the land of opportunity" and you still need a fucking handout- you're a FUCKING LOSER.

Welfare is for retards, orphans, and cripples. It's not a lifestyle unless you're a LOSER. In which case you can FUCK OFF.

Which is a prime example of why exactly no one of any import gives one shit about what YOU think on ANY topic.

For fuck's sakes man. Welfare has a lot of fraud and waste, but don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

Plus , as you're bitching about welfare you are bitching about making companies pay more in wages would get more people off welfare.

ARE YOU THAT GOD DAMNED STUPID?

You're an economic illiterate. You cannot "make companies pay more in wages".

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Well, sure. That's the whole point of welfare, institutionalized slavery. Take away their rights and lord it over them in exchange for a bowl of soup.

You know what though dude, at some point if you act like a child, you must be treated like a child...

 

[Brain357]

Ideally, yes. But the reality is we are not going to just tell no skilled adults to fuck off. So let's deal with reality shall we? Would you rather make companies pay a reasonable wage, or pay out welfare?

Those are your options. Your pie in the sky "fuck idiots" attitude is exactly how morons like Obama get in office. I posted last year that if conservatives had any brains at all, they would have started pushing for a $10 min wage IMMEDIATELY , and cut the "$15 an hour" people off at the knees.

But nope, conservatives get dumber by the day and just insist that they aren't going to do shit, so now the min wage IS going to go to $15 an hour, as predicted.

You dumb fucks are morons.

Let's just cut your silly argument off at the knees, shall we?

Among those paid by the hour, 1.6 million earned exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 2.0 million had wages below the federal minimum. Together, these 3.6 million workers with wages at or below the federal minimum made up 4.7 percent of all hourly paid worker
​

4.7% . that's roughly 1 in 20 people.

Approximately 20.9 million American adults, or about 9.5 percent of the U.S. population age 18 and older in a given year, have a mood disorder. The median age of onset for mood disorders is 30 years. Depressive disorders often co-occur with anxiety disorders and substance abuse. Major Depressive Disorder.
​

9.5% that's roughly 1 in 10.

Bottom line- No adult makes minimum wage for very long unless they are mentally challenged, on drugs, or completely worthless. In fact, hardly anyone in this country makes "minimum wage". Rendering your argument null and void. Thanks for playing.

Ok let's cut you like the bitch you are.

The US poverty level in the US is currently $11,888. The marker for welfare is 140% of the poverty threshold. Meaning of course you can (were talking a single person here) earn $11,888 * 140% or $16643 per year and still qualify for welfare.

There are 2080 hours in a work year . A little simple math tells us that anyone making $8 an hour or LESS as a single person qualifies for welfare. And that is before any allowable deductions they make to adjust your income. I believe last I read it works out to about $.70 per hour , so that if you are making $8.70 per hour or less and working full time you can still qualify for welfare.

Making your remarks about minimum wage workers completely null and void since we are not talking about JUST minimum wage workers here. We're talking about almost every adult worker who is currently earning <$10 an hour.

Boohoo....cry me a fucking river.

If you won the life lottery and were born in the USA , "the land of opportunity" and you still need a fucking handout- you're a FUCKING LOSER.

Welfare is for retards, orphans, and cripples. It's not a lifestyle unless you're a LOSER. In which case you can FUCK OFF.

You realize those people can vote right? And it seems to be a growing group of people. Your fuck off plan isn't very realistic in a country that votes.

They already vote- for democrats.Guess what? We've had 7 years of "hope and change" - wages have gone down. Incomes have DECLINED!!!!!!!!!

And the 8 years before that the size of government exploded with a Republican.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Ideally, yes. But the reality is we are not going to just tell no skilled adults to fuck off. So let's deal with reality shall we? Would you rather make companies pay a reasonable wage, or pay out welfare?

Those are your options. Your pie in the sky "fuck idiots" attitude is exactly how morons like Obama get in office. I posted last year that if conservatives had any brains at all, they would have started pushing for a $10 min wage IMMEDIATELY , and cut the "$15 an hour" people off at the knees.

But nope, conservatives get dumber by the day and just insist that they aren't going to do shit, so now the min wage IS going to go to $15 an hour, as predicted.

You dumb fucks are morons.

Let's just cut your silly argument off at the knees, shall we?

Among those paid by the hour, 1.6 million earned exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 2.0 million had wages below the federal minimum. Together, these 3.6 million workers with wages at or below the federal minimum made up 4.7 percent of all hourly paid worker
​

4.7% . that's roughly 1 in 20 people.

Approximately 20.9 million American adults, or about 9.5 percent of the U.S. population age 18 and older in a given year, have a mood disorder. The median age of onset for mood disorders is 30 years. Depressive disorders often co-occur with anxiety disorders and substance abuse. Major Depressive Disorder.
​

9.5% that's roughly 1 in 10.

Bottom line- No adult makes minimum wage for very long unless they are mentally challenged, on drugs, or completely worthless. In fact, hardly anyone in this country makes "minimum wage". Rendering your argument null and void. Thanks for playing.

Ok let's cut you like the bitch you are.

The US poverty level in the US is currently $11,888. The marker for welfare is 140% of the poverty threshold. Meaning of course you can (were talking a single person here) earn $11,888 * 140% or $16643 per year and still qualify for welfare.

There are 2080 hours in a work year . A little simple math tells us that anyone making $8 an hour or LESS as a single person qualifies for welfare. And that is before any allowable deductions they make to adjust your income. I believe last I read it works out to about $.70 per hour , so that if you are making $8.70 per hour or less and working full time you can still qualify for welfare.

Making your remarks about minimum wage workers completely null and void since we are not talking about JUST minimum wage workers here. We're talking about almost every adult worker who is currently earning <$10 an hour.

Boohoo....cry me a fucking river.

If you won the life lottery and were born in the USA , "the land of opportunity" and you still need a fucking handout- you're a FUCKING LOSER.

Welfare is for retards, orphans, and cripples. It's not a lifestyle unless you're a LOSER. In which case you can FUCK OFF.

Which is a prime example of why exactly no one of any import gives one shit about what YOU think on ANY topic.

For fuck's sakes man. Welfare has a lot of fraud and waste, but don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

Plus , as you're bitching about welfare you are bitching about making companies pay more in wages would get more people off welfare.

ARE YOU THAT GOD DAMNED STUPID?

You're an economic illiterate. You cannot "make companies pay more in wages".

Really? Tell that to my employees, when they get a raise, they certainly will say they are now making more money.

Moron

 

[Zander]

Let's just cut your silly argument off at the knees, shall we?

Among those paid by the hour, 1.6 million earned exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 2.0 million had wages below the federal minimum. Together, these 3.6 million workers with wages at or below the federal minimum made up 4.7 percent of all hourly paid worker
​

4.7% . that's roughly 1 in 20 people.

Approximately 20.9 million American adults, or about 9.5 percent of the U.S. population age 18 and older in a given year, have a mood disorder. The median age of onset for mood disorders is 30 years. Depressive disorders often co-occur with anxiety disorders and substance abuse. Major Depressive Disorder.
​

9.5% that's roughly 1 in 10.

Bottom line- No adult makes minimum wage for very long unless they are mentally challenged, on drugs, or completely worthless. In fact, hardly anyone in this country makes "minimum wage". Rendering your argument null and void. Thanks for playing.

Ok let's cut you like the bitch you are.

The US poverty level in the US is currently $11,888. The marker for welfare is 140% of the poverty threshold. Meaning of course you can (were talking a single person here) earn $11,888 * 140% or $16643 per year and still qualify for welfare.

There are 2080 hours in a work year . A little simple math tells us that anyone making $8 an hour or LESS as a single person qualifies for welfare. And that is before any allowable deductions they make to adjust your income. I believe last I read it works out to about $.70 per hour , so that if you are making $8.70 per hour or less and working full time you can still qualify for welfare.

Making your remarks about minimum wage workers completely null and void since we are not talking about JUST minimum wage workers here. We're talking about almost every adult worker who is currently earning <$10 an hour.

Boohoo....cry me a fucking river.

If you won the life lottery and were born in the USA , "the land of opportunity" and you still need a fucking handout- you're a FUCKING LOSER.

Welfare is for retards, orphans, and cripples. It's not a lifestyle unless you're a LOSER. In which case you can FUCK OFF.

You realize those people can vote right? And it seems to be a growing group of people. Your fuck off plan isn't very realistic in a country that votes.

to be fair, I don't believe anyone who has been on government assistance for 2 out of 4 years prior to an election ought be allowed to vote.

This idea of every person gets a vote is destroying this country. You truly can not just continue letting half the country vote to make the other half give them free shit.

I am not saying it is right or fair, just reality.

No it's propaganda.

Reality is much simpler. People that want to get ahead, get ahead. They improve themselves. They work harder and they take risks. They learn skills and go to school at night. They do whatever it takes to make themselves more valuable for the people that employ them. AND IT WORKS. The greatest engine of economic prosperity in the history of the world is CAPITALISM.

 

[Zander]

Let's just cut your silly argument off at the knees, shall we?

Among those paid by the hour, 1.6 million earned exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 2.0 million had wages below the federal minimum. Together, these 3.6 million workers with wages at or below the federal minimum made up 4.7 percent of all hourly paid worker
​

4.7% . that's roughly 1 in 20 people.

Approximately 20.9 million American adults, or about 9.5 percent of the U.S. population age 18 and older in a given year, have a mood disorder. The median age of onset for mood disorders is 30 years. Depressive disorders often co-occur with anxiety disorders and substance abuse. Major Depressive Disorder.
​

9.5% that's roughly 1 in 10.

Bottom line- No adult makes minimum wage for very long unless they are mentally challenged, on drugs, or completely worthless. In fact, hardly anyone in this country makes "minimum wage". Rendering your argument null and void. Thanks for playing.

Ok let's cut you like the bitch you are.

The US poverty level in the US is currently $11,888. The marker for welfare is 140% of the poverty threshold. Meaning of course you can (were talking a single person here) earn $11,888 * 140% or $16643 per year and still qualify for welfare.

There are 2080 hours in a work year . A little simple math tells us that anyone making $8 an hour or LESS as a single person qualifies for welfare. And that is before any allowable deductions they make to adjust your income. I believe last I read it works out to about $.70 per hour , so that if you are making $8.70 per hour or less and working full time you can still qualify for welfare.

Making your remarks about minimum wage workers completely null and void since we are not talking about JUST minimum wage workers here. We're talking about almost every adult worker who is currently earning <$10 an hour.

Boohoo....cry me a fucking river.

If you won the life lottery and were born in the USA , "the land of opportunity" and you still need a fucking handout- you're a FUCKING LOSER.

Welfare is for retards, orphans, and cripples. It's not a lifestyle unless you're a LOSER. In which case you can FUCK OFF.

Which is a prime example of why exactly no one of any import gives one shit about what YOU think on ANY topic.

For fuck's sakes man. Welfare has a lot of fraud and waste, but don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

Plus , as you're bitching about welfare you are bitching about making companies pay more in wages would get more people off welfare.

ARE YOU THAT GOD DAMNED STUPID?

You're an economic illiterate. You cannot "make companies pay more in wages".

Really? Tell that to my employees, when they get a raise, they certainly will say they are now making more money.

Moron

Your lemonade stand has employees?

You're an economic illiterate.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Ok let's cut you like the bitch you are.

The US poverty level in the US is currently $11,888. The marker for welfare is 140% of the poverty threshold. Meaning of course you can (were talking a single person here) earn $11,888 * 140% or $16643 per year and still qualify for welfare.

There are 2080 hours in a work year . A little simple math tells us that anyone making $8 an hour or LESS as a single person qualifies for welfare. And that is before any allowable deductions they make to adjust your income. I believe last I read it works out to about $.70 per hour , so that if you are making $8.70 per hour or less and working full time you can still qualify for welfare.

Making your remarks about minimum wage workers completely null and void since we are not talking about JUST minimum wage workers here. We're talking about almost every adult worker who is currently earning <$10 an hour.

Boohoo....cry me a fucking river.

If you won the life lottery and were born in the USA , "the land of opportunity" and you still need a fucking handout- you're a FUCKING LOSER.

Welfare is for retards, orphans, and cripples. It's not a lifestyle unless you're a LOSER. In which case you can FUCK OFF.

You realize those people can vote right? And it seems to be a growing group of people. Your fuck off plan isn't very realistic in a country that votes.

to be fair, I don't believe anyone who has been on government assistance for 2 out of 4 years prior to an election ought be allowed to vote.

This idea of every person gets a vote is destroying this country. You truly can not just continue letting half the country vote to make the other half give them free shit.

I am not saying it is right or fair, just reality.

No it's propaganda.

Reality is much simpler. People that want to get ahead, get ahead. They improve themselves. They work harder and they take risks. They learn skills and go to school at night. They do whatever it takes to make themselves more valuable for the people that employ them. AND IT WORKS. The greatest engine of economic prosperity in the history of the world is CAPITALISM.

Zander I'll try again.

If every adult in America had a PhD in astrophysics, would that solve the poverty problem in the US? I mean you keep saying if Americans work hard and get educated they would become successful. So I'm saying, you don't get more successful than PhD in astrophysics, so if every adult had a PhD in astrophysics, poverty would be gone?

I mean let's assume for the sake of argument that that would also mean every adult was a hard worker, because earning a PhD is itself hard work,.