No, Muslims Should NOT Be Allowed To Serve In Public Office

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I defy anyone to give a credible definition of "Religion" that fits the world religions but does not fit Islam.

why? did you know that in some countries ---some of the systems WE call religions are NOT LEGAL religions A very prominent example includes MUSLIM COUNTRIES. Typically ---under shariah law----the only legal religions are those which are "MONOTHEISTIC" and ALL PEOPLE must have a DECLARED RELIGION---(no atheism) Historically----when muslims conquered lands in south east asia------they found it NOT FEASIBLE to disallow Hinduism ----because if Hinduism became ILLEGAL---there would be no way to carry on the JIZYA extortion----so HINDUISM became ----a "religion" as did Buddhism. ----ie as the bitch Ilhan Omar would say "FOR THE FRANKLINS". Today in the Islamic shit hole INDONESIA----there are several "legal religions"------but contrary to the teachings of the Koran-----Judaism is NOT A LEGAL RELIGION ---Hinduism and Taoism are.. Would you like to address your question to the supporters of the filth of shariah?/ I got an anecdote to which my son was subjected but----LATER


That is just all lies.
Not only is Judaism a legal religion in ALL Muslim nations, but Muslims consider themselves to be reformed Jews.
They believe in the exact same Old Testament, and Arabs believe they are descendants of Noah's son Shem.

wrong again Rigby-----Judaism is NOT a legal religion in the filthy shariah shit hole INDONESIA. Interestingly there WERE jews in that land for quite awhile------when it was mostly BUDDHIST----the jews there were ESCAPEES from islamic
oppression in some north African lands like Yemen and Iraq. Today---there is no passport for jews and ALL of the synagogues there have been destroyed by the ass lickers of muhummad. SEE, rigby? ----you Imam lied
 
That is silly.
Not only does Christianity have an old and long standing history of violence and war, like Inquisitions, crusades, and conquistadors, but just recently we illegally invaded Iraq for no reason, and massacred about half a million innocent civilians.

You clearly are a Zionist troll.
It is Zionism that is the greatest threat to the world, not Islam.
The US invading Iraq is not an action of Christianity. Religion and political state are not intertwined in America. There is separation of church & state.

Back to the 5th grade for you.
 
No Muslims are attacking any non-Muslims, so clearly you are wrong.
Muslim countries like in the Persian Gulf, rely heavily on tourism, so they certainly would not succeed if Islam required them to attack tourists.
Wow, Can you all believe this dude ? "No Muslims are attacking any non-Muslims", he says. Ha ha ha.

Uh huh. So 9/11 didn't happen.. Fort Hood didn't happen. Pulse Club, San Bernardino, Beltway Sniper, LAX attack, Ft Lauderdale, Moore, OK, Chattanooga, NY Bike path....all didn't happen, right ?

Is there a doctor in the house ? Seriously. This poor soul is in dire need of help, ASAP.
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That is silly.
Not only does Christianity have an old and long standing history of violence and war, like Inquisitions, crusades, and conquistadors, but just recently we illegally invaded Iraq for no reason, and massacred about half a million innocent civilians.

You clearly are a Zionist troll.
It is Zionism that is the greatest threat to the world, not Islam.
The US invading Iraq is not an action of Christianity.

Correct, it's not.
Just as 9/11 was not an action of "Islam".

Of course, you want to apply the one, and not the other so if you apply the latter, you must apply the former. Can't have it both ways.

See what you did there? You took 19 names and their countries of origin, looked up the predominant religion in those countries, ASS-sumed they were adherents thereof, and then made a leap to nowhere.

Same fucking thing.
 
You mean like fat donnie just declares Iran as not innocent?
:puhleeze:
Why don't you post honestly, instead of polluting the thread with disingenuous foolishness ? Is there anyone who doesn't know Iran's terrorism record ?

Keep this up and you could replace Rigby as idiot of the thread. :slap:
Anyone who declares an entire country as "not innocent" is playing the same game.
 
the drawing board - dear fellow *... had the CONSTITUTION written all over it. you don't seem to comprehend exactly what that contains within it. & i don't need to read the thread....or anything that is within it... dearest of fellows * because you ARE clearly fucked in the head *.

* poster who is fucked in the head.
YES YOU DO need to read the thread and the Constitution. I'll do you a favor. Here's your drawing board. This is what you need to read >>

"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."
(Article 6, Section 2, the Supremacy Clause)

...which outlaws all other supremacisms (doesn't mention an exception for Islam)
Get it ?
 
^ My medical care comes from the VA (all free)

SOCIALISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By that definition, firefighters are socialism. Police are socialism. Mail carriers are socialism. And you are in the twilight zone.
 
That is silly.
Not only does Christianity have an old and long standing history of violence and war, like Inquisitions, crusades, and conquistadors, but just recently we illegally invaded Iraq for no reason, and massacred about half a million innocent civilians.

You clearly are a Zionist troll.
It is Zionism that is the greatest threat to the world, not Islam.
The US invading Iraq is not an action of Christianity.

Correct, it's not.
Just as 9/11 was not an action of "Islam".

Of course, you want to apply the one, and not the other so if you apply the latter, you must apply the former. Can't have it both ways.

See what you did there? You took 19 names and their countries of origin, looked up the predominant religion in those countries, ASS-sumed they were adherents thereof, and then made a leap to nowhere.

Same fucking thing.
Just as 9/11 was not an action of "Islam"
It was inspired by Islam. Word games are fun, not facts.
 
What? Are you ignoring slavery? Or the virtual genocide of the Native American? Not to mention the almost constant lying to them by the actual US gov't? Or the treatment of the Chinese in the US?
I said "and a few other things" Are you reading ? And actually, slavery and the Native Americans is exactly what I was thinking.

Regarding the native Americans however, the overwhelming majority of contacts between White Europeans and American Indians were peaceful. The great majority of 19th century American Indians lived their entire lives many miles away from White settlements, and never laid eyes on a white person.

The genocide that you speak of is true, but it was relatively small in number, and is exaggerated due to the dime store novel industry, which made a fortune selling books to Easteners about the wild west. It was only the warring and violence books that sold the most copies. The ones about peace, trading, intermarriage, etc, didn't sell well. Consequently, people thought that the violence was all there was, due to the prevelance of it on the books they read.

As for genocide against American Indian tribes, they suffered that far more from other rival tribes, for hundreds of years, before a single European ship arrived in the "New World"

Secondly, the arrival of Europeans is one of the best things that ever happened to native Americans of the 20th and 21st centuries. How many of them currently choose to live in teepees, hunt game to survive, ride horses for transportation, and wear clothing they made themselves from animal skins ?

And how many of them living today, have never watched a TV show, listened to a radio, listened to a music recording, never heard of a guitar, never touched a computer ?

Without European arrival and contact, they'd probably still be living their prehistoric technology level, as they did for thousands of years, up until the 16th century.
 
As a religion they are protected by the Constitution and if they were born here they have the right to become President if they win enough Electoral College votes.

Until you change the Constitution their right to run for office will be defended by those like me just like I will defend your right also...
Ho hum. For the 290th time, Islam is not a religion, and even if it was, it still cannot supersede the Constitution. Trouble with Islam is, as a supremacism, it professes to do just that.

The reason why Muslims have no right to hold political office is because they are in violation of the Constitution's Supremacy clause (Article 6 Section 2, part 1), and this is why Islam has no right to exist in America, period. There should be no mosques, no korans, no Islamic groups and centers. None.
 
If you are going to post a definition, you might want to actually post the entire definition.

from: Definition of RELIGION
"Definition of religion
1a : the state of a religious a nun in her 20th year of religion
b(1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural
(2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
3 archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness
4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith"

Christianity has shown itself to be misogynistic quite well.

As for the others, slavery, torture, and the rest, do the current office holders practice these atrocities? What they believe is irrelevant. What they DO is what matters.
I'll go with my definition from Webster's New World College Dictionary, 5th edition, that include "code of ethics", which Islam couldn't be further from.

As for the "current office holders", previous ones, and possible future Muslim ones, I don't know if they do these things or don't do them, and neither does anyone else. Koran 4:34 tells Muslim husbands to beat their wives. Do we go into their houses and see what's going on inside, behind their closed doors and shut blinds ? If we did, we'd know more than we do.

I know some Muslims have been arrested for having slaves ( a longtime Muslim tradition included in the Koran)

Shocking: Muslims Arrested After Police Found White Slaves Chained In Shack - Conservative Daily Post

California: Muslim couple charged with keeping housekeeper as slave

SLAVERY CONVICTION: Texas: Muslim Couple sentenced a mere 7 years for FORCING GIRL TO BE THEIR SLAVE for 16 years - Geller Report News

I do know that 2 women who don't even know each other have accused Muslim Keith Ellison (AG of Minnesota) of domestic abuse, but I'm not sure where that case is going.
 
No Muslims are attacking any non-Muslims, so clearly you are wrong.
Muslim countries like in the Persian Gulf, rely heavily on tourism, so they certainly would not succeed if Islam required them to attack tourists.
Wow, Can you all believe this dude ? "No Muslims are attacking any non-Muslims", he says. Ha ha ha.

Uh huh. So 9/11 didn't happen.. Fort Hood didn't happen. Pulse Club, San Bernardino, Beltway Sniper, LAX attack, Ft Lauderdale, Moore, OK, Chattanooga, NY Bike path....all didn't happen, right ?

Is there a doctor in the house ? Seriously. This poor soul is in dire need of help, ASAP.
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You're right, a doctor is needed. But it is for you.

Yes, there have been radical Muslims committing crimes.

The terrorist/criminals were all either apprehended or died. How many were there? 20? 25? Lets go crazy and say 50. There are rough 3.45 million Muslims in the US, and you want to deny them all the ability to hold public office. So punish all for what 0.001% actually did? That is just sad.

The overwhelming majority of Muslim abide by our laws. They follow our Constitution. And just because of their religion, you want them banned from public office. It has already been shown that the supremacy clause is not violated, since they do not act on the violent commands of the Quran.

Since the supremacy clause is not an issue, Article 6 applies and no religious test can be applied.

Once again, you lose. Just like your plan for the federal gov't to take over MLB.
 
the drawing board - dear fellow *... had the CONSTITUTION written all over it. you don't seem to comprehend exactly what that contains within it. & i don't need to read the thread....or anything that is within it... dearest of fellows * because you ARE clearly fucked in the head *.

* poster who is fucked in the head.
YES YOU DO need to read the thread and the Constitution. I'll do you a favor. Here's your drawing board. This is what you need to read >>

"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."
(Article 6, Section 2, the Supremacy Clause)

...which outlaws all other supremacisms (doesn't mention an exception for Islam)
Get it ?

It also outlaws any religious test to hold office.
 
As a religion they are protected by the Constitution and if they were born here they have the right to become President if they win enough Electoral College votes.

Until you change the Constitution their right to run for office will be defended by those like me just like I will defend your right also...
Ho hum. For the 290th time, Islam is not a religion, and even if it was, it still cannot supersede the Constitution. Trouble with Islam is, as a supremacism, it professes to do just that.

The reason why Muslims have no right to hold political office is because they are in violation of the Constitution's Supremacy clause (Article 6 Section 2, part 1), and this is why Islam has no right to exist in America, period. There should be no mosques, no korans, no Islamic groups and centers. None.

The US gov't recognizes it as a religion. You lose again.
 
No Muslims are attacking any non-Muslims, so clearly you are wrong.
Muslim countries like in the Persian Gulf, rely heavily on tourism, so they certainly would not succeed if Islam required them to attack tourists.
Wow, Can you all believe this dude ? "No Muslims are attacking any non-Muslims", he says. Ha ha ha.

Uh huh. So 9/11 didn't happen.. Fort Hood didn't happen. Pulse Club, San Bernardino, Beltway Sniper, LAX attack, Ft Lauderdale, Moore, OK, Chattanooga, NY Bike path....all didn't happen, right ?

Is there a doctor in the house ? Seriously. This poor soul is in dire need of help, ASAP.
th

You're right, a doctor is needed. But it is for you.

Yes, there have been radical Muslims committing crimes.

The terrorist/criminals were all either apprehended or died. How many were there? 20? 25? Lets go crazy and say 50. There are rough 3.45 million Muslims in the US, and you want to deny them all the ability to hold public office. So punish all for what 0.001% actually did? That is just sad.

The overwhelming majority of Muslim abide by our laws. They follow our Constitution. And just because of their religion, you want them banned from public office. It has already been shown that the supremacy clause is not violated, since they do not act on the violent commands of the Quran.

Since the supremacy clause is not an issue, Article 6 applies and no religious test can be applied.

Once again, you lose. Just like your plan for the federal gov't to take over MLB.
So punish all for what 0.001% actually did?

Low estimates have 3 to 7% of Muslims are radicals. Stop perpetuating a lie.
 
If you are going to post a definition, you might want to actually post the entire definition.

from: Definition of RELIGION
"Definition of religion
1a : the state of a religious a nun in her 20th year of religion
b(1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural
(2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
3 archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness
4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith"

Christianity has shown itself to be misogynistic quite well.

As for the others, slavery, torture, and the rest, do the current office holders practice these atrocities? What they believe is irrelevant. What they DO is what matters.
I'll go with my definition from Webster's New World College Dictionary, 5th edition, that include "code of ethics", which Islam couldn't be further from.

As for the "current office holders", previous ones, and possible future Muslim ones, I don't know if they do these things or don't do them, and neither does anyone else. Koran 4:34 tells Muslim husbands to beat their wives. Do we go into their houses and see what's going on inside, behind their closed doors and shut blinds ? If we did, we'd know more than we do.

I know some Muslims have been arrested for having slaves ( a longtime Muslim tradition included in the Koran)

Shocking: Muslims Arrested After Police Found White Slaves Chained In Shack - Conservative Daily Post

California: Muslim couple charged with keeping housekeeper as slave

SLAVERY CONVICTION: Texas: Muslim Couple sentenced a mere 7 years for FORCING GIRL TO BE THEIR SLAVE for 16 years - Geller Report News

I do know that 2 women who don't even know each other have accused Muslim Keith Ellison (AG of Minnesota) of domestic abuse, but I'm not sure where that case is going.

If you want to use your own definition, that is fine.

I did a Google search for Webster's New World College Dictionary, 5th edition. And found this web site: Webster's New World College Dictionary

That dictionary's definition of religion is "Religion is a set of beliefs about God or the supernatural.".


Do you have a link for a different definition?
 
If you are going to post a definition, you might want to actually post the entire definition.

from: Definition of RELIGION
"Definition of religion
1a : the state of a religious a nun in her 20th year of religion
b(1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural
(2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
3 archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness
4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith"

Christianity has shown itself to be misogynistic quite well.

As for the others, slavery, torture, and the rest, do the current office holders practice these atrocities? What they believe is irrelevant. What they DO is what matters.
I'll go with my definition from Webster's New World College Dictionary, 5th edition, that include "code of ethics", which Islam couldn't be further from.

As for the "current office holders", previous ones, and possible future Muslim ones, I don't know if they do these things or don't do them, and neither does anyone else. Koran 4:34 tells Muslim husbands to beat their wives. Do we go into their houses and see what's going on inside, behind their closed doors and shut blinds ? If we did, we'd know more than we do.

I know some Muslims have been arrested for having slaves ( a longtime Muslim tradition included in the Koran)

Shocking: Muslims Arrested After Police Found White Slaves Chained In Shack - Conservative Daily Post

California: Muslim couple charged with keeping housekeeper as slave

SLAVERY CONVICTION: Texas: Muslim Couple sentenced a mere 7 years for FORCING GIRL TO BE THEIR SLAVE for 16 years - Geller Report News

I do know that 2 women who don't even know each other have accused Muslim Keith Ellison (AG of Minnesota) of domestic abuse, but I'm not sure where that case is going.

1 in 4 women experience some sort of domestic violence. Blaming one Muslim is ridiculous.

The population of the US is roughly 320 million. 51% are female. If 1 in 4 suffer from domestic abuse, that means that over 40 million women are abused at one time or another. There are only 3.45 million Muslims in the US. Either they are all abusers and very busy, or domestic abuse is a national problem, not a Muslim problem.
 
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