no tax return, no place on ballot

[Billy000]

Yes, the idea that they are "free" is a lie. Bernie has a program to pay for everything he proposed.

And do you know what that plan is? Tax the wealthy at 70%. How many people would earn that kind of money if they were going to give most of it to the government? HIs plan would put us in a recession we could never get out of until the Democrats were out of leadership and the Republicans took over.

If the tax rate were 0%, the federal government would collect 0 dollars. If the tax rate were 100%, the federal government would still collect 0 dollars because who would be stupid enough to create wealth?

And yet their tax rate was at 90% in the 50’s and as of now, they are wealthier than ever before. Of course they could afford it.

Except for the fact nobody ever paid 90%. Why would you earn a million dollars if you had to give it all to the government? If the tax rate was 70%, and your local taxes are another 20%, it makes no sense to create income. Only Communists and Socialists would approve something that stupid.

The effective rate would still apply today. Nobody would pay up to 70%. Hell right now 2/3 of corporations don’t pay any federal taxes effectively.

If they aren't going to pay 70%, then his plan can't get funded now can it?

Currently Medicare costs us about 750 billion dollars per year, and only 15% of our population is on it. That means it would cost us over six times that amount every year for everybody to be covered. And as Congressman Delaney pointed out, many of the hospitals would close and many doctors would leave the industry.

What you don't understand is that the government only pays for part of the cost for care of their patients. My experience is about 80%. They make up the loss through private pay and insurance payments. This is why when you see facilities close up, it's usually in poorer neighborhoods where most of the patients are government clients. There is no way for them to recoup those government losses.

So with Bernie's plan for starters, it would cost us 4.5 trillion a year which is more than what we spend on everything now, and we're adding to the debt because of it. To keep those hospitals and doctors we currently have, it would cost us an extra 20%. That puts us well over 5 trillion a year, and we still need to fund all our other social programs and defense of this country.

Now tell me that's going to work.

It can get funded because he would close loopholes and deductions to make it work. Either way, the effective tax rate is the 50’s was higher and the world didn’t collapse did it?

Why would the doctors quit? Why would the hospitals close? Based on what? You also forget that we pay per capita more than any nation in the world on earth on healthcare. A socialized system would save us money.

 

[daveman]

again;

Want in one hand and shit in the other and see which fills up the fastest. Federal law says tax returns are confidential and release without the taxpayers consent is a felony. Neither you or CA has the authority to force a taxpayer to release their returns.

But, here comes the nonsense argument that they can be on the ballot if they just give over those tax returns.

And, I say that states should also refuse to put any non-lawyer on any ballot. We need people to serve who actually understand the law. Not people like Maxine Waters.



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People who wear sequined cowboy hats should not be on any ballot.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Filing requirements are pure paperwork is all. This is blackmail. Sorry you can't see the difference, but the court will.

collecting 10,000 signatures is more than just paperwork

That's only if you don't run with a supporting party. It applies to Independents and write-ins.

Is it in the Constitution as a requirement to be president?

No, it's in the state filing system. But those laws are created for organizational purposes, not because one candidate doesn't want to do a particular thing. Like I said, it's no different than when Ears didn't want anybody to see his college transcripts or original birth certificate. If my state made a requirement of either, it would have been created for one individual and is basically blackmail.

Again, while I do suspect the courts will stop it, I do not think it is as black and white as all the Trumpians think it is.

Also, it addresses all candidates equally,

/----/ "Also, it addresses all candidates equally,"
Actually, it doesn't and that's why you snakes are pushing so hard. Career politicians who get their income from taxpayer dollars structure their returns to pass public scrutiny. Trump was a private citizen and businessman. His returns were structured to get the most deductions as possible without being rejected by the IRS. Both the IRS and NY State Tax Department has signed off on all of his returns.

But don't take my word. Here is a professional tax preparer's explanation: Releasing Politicians' Tax Returns - A Nonissue Issue - Back Alley Taxes
Let’s consider the following. First, the returns are generally prepared by competent (and expensive) tax accountants. Second, before a politician announces their run, their finances, including tax returns, go through a huge vetting process. Third, I’m going to guess that the IRS enjoys looking at politicians’ tax returns as much as I do. I might be wrong on that one, but I have a feeling that any politician is going to have their return make the rounds in the IRS Service Center. Finally, when the returns are released, usually the most we get is a summary by a bunch of journalists who likely know close to nothing about tax returns....But any candidate coming through one of the two main parties is going to be vetted so many times that a tax return release doesn’t even deserve the 200 word blurb it gets.

 

[daveman]

Maybe because there's no good reason for you to see them.

Then say that. Don't continue to promise you will. Should a persons word not be worth something?

Like "nobody making less than 250K a year will see a tax increase of any kind; no new taxes?"

Show me a politician that hasn't lied, and I'll show you a waitress that refuses to accept tips.

I've noted this before......yes, just like that. Obama lied constantly and I will never make excuses for his lies. I will argue that it was Obama's lies that directly led to Trump getting elected.

I noted before, I do not know a lie Sanders has told. When I said this before I was presented with fringe websites that simply disagreed with him.

who pays for all of his freebies then? If someone is paying, then they're not free and that is all a lie.

Yes, the idea that they are "free" is a lie. Bernie has a program to pay for everything he proposed.

Bernie ain't paying for shit. He has a program to force other people to pay for everything he proposed.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Lol
His taxes are his own business... not yours.
You sound Like a spineless motherfucker

I think a country has a right to know about any conflicts of interests.

I think a candidate should simply be open and honest here though.

That's why they do financial statements.

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Trump is a known liar. I want to see what he sent to the IRS.

Want in one hand and shit in the other and see which fills up the fastest. Federal law says tax returns are confidential and release without the taxpayers consent is a felony. Neither you or CA has the authority to force a taxpayer to release their returns.

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California is not forcing Trump to release his tax return. It's his choice.

And, the criminal is not forcing you to give over your money. It's your choice.

I have already named one restriction a state can pull that will keep a lot of otherwise qualified people off the ballot. I could think of more. Is that what we want our nation to become?

.

 

[pknopp]

Then say that. Don't continue to promise you will. Should a persons word not be worth something?

Like "nobody making less than 250K a year will see a tax increase of any kind; no new taxes?"

Show me a politician that hasn't lied, and I'll show you a waitress that refuses to accept tips.

I've noted this before......yes, just like that. Obama lied constantly and I will never make excuses for his lies. I will argue that it was Obama's lies that directly led to Trump getting elected.

I noted before, I do not know a lie Sanders has told. When I said this before I was presented with fringe websites that simply disagreed with him.

who pays for all of his freebies then? If someone is paying, then they're not free and that is all a lie.

Yes, the idea that they are "free" is a lie. Bernie has a program to pay for everything he proposed.

Bernie ain't paying for shit. He has a program to force other people to pay for everything he proposed.

As far as I know he pays taxes also.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

sounds good to me -

Trump’s tax returns required under new California election law

Does this apply to Pelosi?

Yes when she runs for president she will be required to release her tax returns. Just like everyone else who runs for president.

Except of course, trump. Even though he said he would release his tax returns he has not and has fought to keep it secret.

This is a bill of attainder in disguise.

Hack twat progs like you can't win the real way, so you have to use slimy cuck end runs to deny people the right to vote for who they want to vote for.

or force them to write in, thus making it harder to do so.

Vote hating fascist scumbag.

I never thought of the Bill of Attainder angle. That's pretty clever.



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[daveman]

No, as I noted, he has a program to pay for every one of his programs. You can continue to ignore that but that doesn't make Sanders the liar.

name one program! where is it funded? free college, who actually pays, it isn't free? that's like free shipping from Amazon, but you have to give them 100 bucks a year to get free shipping. That means it isn't free. fk dude, free public high schools are paid with property taxes in most states, that's my money paying for kids that aren't mine. that isn't free sucka

You are the one yelling "Free Free Free" but when I tell you that is your argument, you want me to prove your argument. I can not.

Sanders pays for his Education program.

https://www.sanders.senate.gov/download/collegeforallsummary/?inline=file

Fully Paid for by Imposing a Robin Hood Tax on Wall Street. This legislation is offset by imposing a Wall Street speculation fee on investment houses, hedge funds, and other speculators of 0.5% on stock trades (50 cents for every $100 worth of stock), a 0.1% fee on bonds, and a 0.005% fee on derivatives. It has been estimated that this provision could raise hundreds of billions a year which could be used not only to make tuition free at public colleges and universities in this country, it could also be used to create millions of jobs and rebuild the middle class of this country

The pipe dream, he's always looking to fk the middle class. that's all that will do.

First we will note, it is as I said, paid for, not "Free" like you and others yell. Secondly this is just a slight variation of what we have now. You get a loan and pay it over time. With this plan there is no loan but the vast majority after getting their degree will participate in the markets, where they fund the system.

It's not free, I quoted you that it comes from someone else's pocket, that makes it unfree. And it comes from my stock purchases and anyone else who purchases stock and makes a buck. shit dude, you swallowed the hook. you think things are free. too funny...

And it's not just you purchasing stock. It's retirement fund managers. Bernie's plan will fuck the working class.

 

[pknopp]

name one program! where is it funded? free college, who actually pays, it isn't free? that's like free shipping from Amazon, but you have to give them 100 bucks a year to get free shipping. That means it isn't free. fk dude, free public high schools are paid with property taxes in most states, that's my money paying for kids that aren't mine. that isn't free sucka

You are the one yelling "Free Free Free" but when I tell you that is your argument, you want me to prove your argument. I can not.

Sanders pays for his Education program.

https://www.sanders.senate.gov/download/collegeforallsummary/?inline=file

Fully Paid for by Imposing a Robin Hood Tax on Wall Street. This legislation is offset by imposing a Wall Street speculation fee on investment houses, hedge funds, and other speculators of 0.5% on stock trades (50 cents for every $100 worth of stock), a 0.1% fee on bonds, and a 0.005% fee on derivatives. It has been estimated that this provision could raise hundreds of billions a year which could be used not only to make tuition free at public colleges and universities in this country, it could also be used to create millions of jobs and rebuild the middle class of this country

The pipe dream, he's always looking to fk the middle class. that's all that will do.

First we will note, it is as I said, paid for, not "Free" like you and others yell. Secondly this is just a slight variation of what we have now. You get a loan and pay it over time. With this plan there is no loan but the vast majority after getting their degree will participate in the markets, where they fund the system.

It's not free, I quoted you that it comes from someone else's pocket, that makes it unfree. And it comes from my stock purchases and anyone else who purchases stock and makes a buck. shit dude, you swallowed the hook. you think things are free. too funny...

And it's not just you purchasing stock. It's retirement fund managers. Bernie's plan will fuck the working class.

I'm getting ready to retire. I'm good with helping others. I don't feel as if I'm going to get screwed.

The greatest country on Earth should be able to see to the health needs of the people like the rest of the civilized world does.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You are the one yelling "Free Free Free" but when I tell you that is your argument, you want me to prove your argument. I can not.

Sanders pays for his Education program.

https://www.sanders.senate.gov/download/collegeforallsummary/?inline=file

Fully Paid for by Imposing a Robin Hood Tax on Wall Street. This legislation is offset by imposing a Wall Street speculation fee on investment houses, hedge funds, and other speculators of 0.5% on stock trades (50 cents for every $100 worth of stock), a 0.1% fee on bonds, and a 0.005% fee on derivatives. It has been estimated that this provision could raise hundreds of billions a year which could be used not only to make tuition free at public colleges and universities in this country, it could also be used to create millions of jobs and rebuild the middle class of this country

The pipe dream, he's always looking to fk the middle class. that's all that will do.

First we will note, it is as I said, paid for, not "Free" like you and others yell. Secondly this is just a slight variation of what we have now. You get a loan and pay it over time. With this plan there is no loan but the vast majority after getting their degree will participate in the markets, where they fund the system.

It's not free, I quoted you that it comes from someone else's pocket, that makes it unfree. And it comes from my stock purchases and anyone else who purchases stock and makes a buck. shit dude, you swallowed the hook. you think things are free. too funny...

And it's not just you purchasing stock. It's retirement fund managers. Bernie's plan will fuck the working class.

I'm getting ready to retire. I'm good with helping others. I don't feel as if I'm going to get screwed.

The greatest country on Earth should be able to see to the health needs of the people like the rest of the civilized world does.

So what does the rest of the civilized world look like?

Japan, Seeking Trim Waists, Measures Millions

Report: Thousands fled Canada for health care in 2011

Obese patients and smokers banned from routine surgery in 'most severe ever' rationing in the NHS

 

[Erinwltr]

again;

Want in one hand and shit in the other and see which fills up the fastest. Federal law says tax returns are confidential and release without the taxpayers consent is a felony. Neither you or CA has the authority to force a taxpayer to release their returns.

But, here comes the nonsense argument that they can be on the ballot if they just give over those tax returns.

And, I say that states should also refuse to put any non-lawyer on any ballot. We need people to serve who actually understand the law. Not people like Maxine Waters.



.

People who wear sequined cowboy hats should not be on any ballot.

Why in the world would you have anything against this creature of perfect creation? All you Dashboard Sissy Cowboys love sequins.

 

[jc456]

Like "nobody making less than 250K a year will see a tax increase of any kind; no new taxes?"

Show me a politician that hasn't lied, and I'll show you a waitress that refuses to accept tips.

I've noted this before......yes, just like that. Obama lied constantly and I will never make excuses for his lies. I will argue that it was Obama's lies that directly led to Trump getting elected.

I noted before, I do not know a lie Sanders has told. When I said this before I was presented with fringe websites that simply disagreed with him.

who pays for all of his freebies then? If someone is paying, then they're not free and that is all a lie.

Yes, the idea that they are "free" is a lie. Bernie has a program to pay for everything he proposed.

Bernie ain't paying for shit. He has a program to force other people to pay for everything he proposed.

As far as I know he pays taxes also.

You’ve seen his tax returns have you?

 

[pknopp]

Fully Paid for by Imposing a Robin Hood Tax on Wall Street. This legislation is offset by imposing a Wall Street speculation fee on investment houses, hedge funds, and other speculators of 0.5% on stock trades (50 cents for every $100 worth of stock), a 0.1% fee on bonds, and a 0.005% fee on derivatives. It has been estimated that this provision could raise hundreds of billions a year which could be used not only to make tuition free at public colleges and universities in this country, it could also be used to create millions of jobs and rebuild the middle class of this country

The pipe dream, he's always looking to fk the middle class. that's all that will do.

First we will note, it is as I said, paid for, not "Free" like you and others yell. Secondly this is just a slight variation of what we have now. You get a loan and pay it over time. With this plan there is no loan but the vast majority after getting their degree will participate in the markets, where they fund the system.

It's not free, I quoted you that it comes from someone else's pocket, that makes it unfree. And it comes from my stock purchases and anyone else who purchases stock and makes a buck. shit dude, you swallowed the hook. you think things are free. too funny...

And it's not just you purchasing stock. It's retirement fund managers. Bernie's plan will fuck the working class.

I'm getting ready to retire. I'm good with helping others. I don't feel as if I'm going to get screwed.

The greatest country on Earth should be able to see to the health needs of the people like the rest of the civilized world does.

So what does the rest of the civilized world look like?

Japan, Seeking Trim Waists, Measures Millions

Report: Thousands fled Canada for health care in 2011

Obese patients and smokers banned from routine surgery in 'most severe ever' rationing in the NHS

"Daily Caller". Do better.

 

[pknopp]

I've noted this before......yes, just like that. Obama lied constantly and I will never make excuses for his lies. I will argue that it was Obama's lies that directly led to Trump getting elected.

I noted before, I do not know a lie Sanders has told. When I said this before I was presented with fringe websites that simply disagreed with him.

who pays for all of his freebies then? If someone is paying, then they're not free and that is all a lie.

Yes, the idea that they are "free" is a lie. Bernie has a program to pay for everything he proposed.

Bernie ain't paying for shit. He has a program to force other people to pay for everything he proposed.

As far as I know he pays taxes also.

You’ve seen his tax returns have you?

Yes, he has routinely released them.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

And do you know what that plan is? Tax the wealthy at 70%. How many people would earn that kind of money if they were going to give most of it to the government? HIs plan would put us in a recession we could never get out of until the Democrats were out of leadership and the Republicans took over.

If the tax rate were 0%, the federal government would collect 0 dollars. If the tax rate were 100%, the federal government would still collect 0 dollars because who would be stupid enough to create wealth?

And yet their tax rate was at 90% in the 50’s and as of now, they are wealthier than ever before. Of course they could afford it.

Except for the fact nobody ever paid 90%. Why would you earn a million dollars if you had to give it all to the government? If the tax rate was 70%, and your local taxes are another 20%, it makes no sense to create income. Only Communists and Socialists would approve something that stupid.

The effective rate would still apply today. Nobody would pay up to 70%. Hell right now 2/3 of corporations don’t pay any federal taxes effectively.

If they aren't going to pay 70%, then his plan can't get funded now can it?

Currently Medicare costs us about 750 billion dollars per year, and only 15% of our population is on it. That means it would cost us over six times that amount every year for everybody to be covered. And as Congressman Delaney pointed out, many of the hospitals would close and many doctors would leave the industry.

What you don't understand is that the government only pays for part of the cost for care of their patients. My experience is about 80%. They make up the loss through private pay and insurance payments. This is why when you see facilities close up, it's usually in poorer neighborhoods where most of the patients are government clients. There is no way for them to recoup those government losses.

So with Bernie's plan for starters, it would cost us 4.5 trillion a year which is more than what we spend on everything now, and we're adding to the debt because of it. To keep those hospitals and doctors we currently have, it would cost us an extra 20%. That puts us well over 5 trillion a year, and we still need to fund all our other social programs and defense of this country.

Now tell me that's going to work.

It can get funded because he would close loopholes and deductions to make it work. Either way, the effective tax rate is the 50’s was higher and the world didn’t collapse did it?

Why would the doctors quit? Why would the hospitals close? Based on what? You also forget that we pay per capita more than any nation in the world on earth on healthcare. A socialized system would save us money.

I just explained why hospitals would close and doctors would quit. No business can operate at a loss or even break even for that matter. Do you think an American wants to spend 8 years of their life racking up hundreds of thousands of dollars in loans to become a physician only to work until 50 years old before it's paid off?

There is only one way to approach the healthcare problem, and that is analyze why it's so expensive in the first place. I guarantee you government is mostly responsible for that. After we greatly reduce the cost for healthcare, then let's figure out a way to pay for it. But this approach of paying for something that's out of control cost-wise is pure stupidity. That's why Commie Care is such a failure.

Now as to the tax rate. Yes, people paid higher taxes, but there were not many places left to go. Overseas travel was dangerous and expensive. Communications were antiquated and long distance was expensive, unreliable and the sound quality was miserable.

Today a business owner can pack up and move out of the country with no problem. He can keep track of his investments up to the minute on his or her cell phone. He can have corporate meetings on Skype or other means of virtual gatherings. With radar and satellites, overseas travel has never been safer.

 

[daveman]

And do you know what that plan is? Tax the wealthy at 70%. How many people would earn that kind of money if they were going to give most of it to the government? HIs plan would put us in a recession we could never get out of until the Democrats were out of leadership and the Republicans took over.

If the tax rate were 0%, the federal government would collect 0 dollars. If the tax rate were 100%, the federal government would still collect 0 dollars because who would be stupid enough to create wealth?

And yet their tax rate was at 90% in the 50’s and as of now, they are wealthier than ever before. Of course they could afford it.

Except for the fact nobody ever paid 90%. Why would you earn a million dollars if you had to give it all to the government? If the tax rate was 70%, and your local taxes are another 20%, it makes no sense to create income. Only Communists and Socialists would approve something that stupid.

The effective rate would still apply today. Nobody would pay up to 70%. Hell right now 2/3 of corporations don’t pay any federal taxes effectively.

If they aren't going to pay 70%, then his plan can't get funded now can it?

Currently Medicare costs us about 750 billion dollars per year, and only 15% of our population is on it. That means it would cost us over six times that amount every year for everybody to be covered. And as Congressman Delaney pointed out, many of the hospitals would close and many doctors would leave the industry.

What you don't understand is that the government only pays for part of the cost for care of their patients. My experience is about 80%. They make up the loss through private pay and insurance payments. This is why when you see facilities close up, it's usually in poorer neighborhoods where most of the patients are government clients. There is no way for them to recoup those government losses.

So with Bernie's plan for starters, it would cost us 4.5 trillion a year which is more than what we spend on everything now, and we're adding to the debt because of it. To keep those hospitals and doctors we currently have, it would cost us an extra 20%. That puts us well over 5 trillion a year, and we still need to fund all our other social programs and defense of this country.

Now tell me that's going to work.

It can get funded because he would close loopholes and deductions to make it work. Either way, the effective tax rate is the 50’s was higher and the world didn’t collapse did it?

Why would the doctors quit? Why would the hospitals close? Based on what? You also forget that we pay per capita more than any nation in the world on earth on healthcare. A socialized system would save us money.

Look, I know you're a socialist, and therefore completely disconnected from reality -- the only people further afield are Communists and anarcho-Communists -- but do you really want the government deciding whose healthcare is too expensive to pay for?

Proponents of socialized medicine claim it's only doctors who make those decisions. That, of course, is utter nonsense. The bean counters rule. And if the deem your treatment is too expensive, you will die. If you're lucky, maybe they'll give you painkillers to make your death less agonizing.

 

[OKTexas]

Lol
His taxes are his own business... not yours.
You sound Like a spineless motherfucker

I think a country has a right to know about any conflicts of interests.

I think a candidate should simply be open and honest here though.

That's why they do financial statements.

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Trump is a known liar. I want to see what he sent to the IRS.

Want in one hand and shit in the other and see which fills up the fastest. Federal law says tax returns are confidential and release without the taxpayers consent is a felony. Neither you or CA has the authority to force a taxpayer to release their returns.

.

California is not forcing Trump to release his tax return. It's his choice.

Bullshit.

.

 

[MaryL]

sounds good to me -

Trump’s tax returns required under new California election law

I like that. Lets go a step further: You don't have proof of valid immigration status, you get deported. I want see Trumps tax records. So lets be on the up and up. No excuses. Lets level the same playing field. Um, liberals that give sanctuary cities without consent of the people, no matter. Well, Trumps tax status is as legitimate a target as Democratic leaders that skirt immigration laws without anyone's consent and then act like deer in the headlights. I refer to #Walkaway again.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If

And do you know what that plan is? Tax the wealthy at 70%. How many people would earn that kind of money if they were going to give most of it to the government? HIs plan would put us in a recession we could never get out of until the Democrats were out of leadership and the Republicans took over.

If the tax rate were 0%, the federal government would collect 0 dollars. If the tax rate were 100%, the federal government would still collect 0 dollars because who would be stupid enough to create wealth?

And yet their tax rate was at 90% in the 50’s and as of now, they are wealthier than ever before. Of course they could afford it.

Except for the fact nobody ever paid 90%. Why would you earn a million dollars if you had to give it all to the government? If the tax rate was 70%, and your local taxes are another 20%, it makes no sense to create income. Only Communists and Socialists would approve something that stupid.

The effective rate would still apply today. Nobody would pay up to 70%. Hell right now 2/3 of corporations don’t pay any federal taxes effectively.

If they aren't going to pay 70%, then his plan can't get funded now can it?

Currently Medicare costs us about 750 billion dollars per year, and only 15% of our population is on it. That means it would cost us over six times that amount every year for everybody to be covered. And as Congressman Delaney pointed out, many of the hospitals would close and many doctors would leave the industry.

What you don't understand is that the government only pays for part of the cost for care of their patients. My experience is about 80%. They make up the loss through private pay and insurance payments. This is why when you see facilities close up, it's usually in poorer neighborhoods where most of the patients are government clients. There is no way for them to recoup those government losses.

So with Bernie's plan for starters, it would cost us 4.5 trillion a year which is more than what we spend on everything now, and we're adding to the debt because of it. To keep those hospitals and doctors we currently have, it would cost us an extra 20%. That puts us well over 5 trillion a year, and we still need to fund all our other social programs and defense of this country.

Now tell me that's going to work.

they paid 70%, money will run out jobs will be dropped and the middle class will pay the consequences! These stupid fks never learned the word consequence

70% is just the starting point. When you add in all the local taxes, it's closer to 90%. Who would risk money, open up a business, only to receive 10% of the wealthy they created? Nobody.

Democrats are just not smart enough to understand this because outside of perhaps buying a house, they never made any investments in their life. They don't understand the risks involved. They don't understand how hard it is working from the bottom all the way to the top.

It's funny because I used to work with a few leftists. When the lottery got big enough, the people in our company all chipped in and bought a bunch of tickets. Like most people, we would fantasize what we would do with our money if we won.

When we'd get together at the end of the work day, one employee would grab the newspaper and read about the lottery. He would say something like "The jackpot is 500 million dollars, after taxes, about 320 million. The first people to speak up against the taxation were the liberals in our company. "That's not fair, we shouldn't have to pay any taxes, it's not right government would get so much of our money. They didn't play the tickets, we did!"

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Teddy Kennedy never released his tax returns when he challenged Jimmy Carter in the 1980 Dem primary.

How about a different standard? If you destroy evidence that's under a Congressional subpoena, you don't get to be on the ballot. Hillary would have been ineligible under this rule.

Some day.....when you grow up........you may finally admit to yourself that Hillary is NO LONGER in the fucking picture....nbut your orange clown surely is........LOL

She tries to stay in the picture as long as she can, but people are getting sick of that picture.