Nobody Thought Of This Before?????

The US has a trade surplus with Canada.

"But, whether this is true depends on whom you ask. Both the U.S. and Canada say they are running trade surpluses with each other.
....data from Statistics Canada says the U.S. had a $14.6 billion trade deficit for goods and services with its neighbor to the north in 2016, according to Bloomberg."
Trump Claims the U.S. Has a Trade Deficit With Canada. That’s Not So Clear
We have a trade surplus with Canada, period.




Turns out you're as correct as your claim that you're a bomb expert.


"But, whether this is true depends on whom you ask. Both the U.S. and Canada say they are running trade surpluses with each other.
....data from Statistics Canada says the U.S. had a $14.6 billion trade deficit for goods and services with its neighbor to the north in 2016, according to Bloomberg."
Trump Claims the U.S. Has a Trade Deficit With Canada. That’s Not So Clear
Nice try, dipshit. I notice you deliberately left this out:

Statistics from the Office of the United States Trade Representative refute Trump’s claim of a trade deficit. The U.S. government agency said U.S. had a $12.5 billion trade surplus for goods and services in 2016, exporting $320.1 billion and importing $307.6 billion.


Clean up your language, try to post like an adult, and I'll wound you again.
 
The US has a trade surplus with Canada.

"But, whether this is true depends on whom you ask. Both the U.S. and Canada say they are running trade surpluses with each other.
....data from Statistics Canada says the U.S. had a $14.6 billion trade deficit for goods and services with its neighbor to the north in 2016, according to Bloomberg."
Trump Claims the U.S. Has a Trade Deficit With Canada. That’s Not So Clear
We have a trade surplus with Canada, period.




Turns out you're as correct as your claim that you're a bomb expert.


"But, whether this is true depends on whom you ask. Both the U.S. and Canada say they are running trade surpluses with each other.
....data from Statistics Canada says the U.S. had a $14.6 billion trade deficit for goods and services with its neighbor to the north in 2016, according to Bloomberg."
Trump Claims the U.S. Has a Trade Deficit With Canada. That’s Not So Clear
Nice try, dipshit. I notice you deliberately left this out:

Statistics from the Office of the United States Trade Representative refute Trump’s claim of a trade deficit. The U.S. government agency said U.S. had a $12.5 billion trade surplus for goods and services in 2016, exporting $320.1 billion and importing $307.6 billion.


Clean up your language, try to post like an adult, and I'll wound you again.
BWA-HA-HA-HA! You amuse me, dipshit. I know you are terrified of me. That's why you derail your own topics when I bitch slap you around.

I'd love for you to tell us the Trump Administration is lying when it says we have a trade surplus with Canada:

U.S. goods and services trade with Canada totaled an estimated $673.9 billion in 2017. Exports were $341.2 billion; imports were $332.8 billion. The U.S. goods and services trade surplus with Canada was $8.4 billion in 2017.

Canada | United States Trade Representative
 
"...I just don't care about your feelings."

WHAT????

Seems you are unaware of what 'vapid' means.

But....you are unaware of so very many things.....

Ma'am you neglected my questions. There were only the two to start our lively debate.
"The left is quickly running out of excuses for why Donald Trump's economic policies have caused a boom rather than the bust that they predicted with such great certainty.

Last year, when the U.S. economy began to percolate with faster growth, the media and other Trump haters argued that this simply reflected a pickup in worldwide growth: Trump was riding the wave of what economists were calling "synchronized growth."

But now what do they have to say? The latest indicators are that, as a Wall Street Journal headline reported on June 3: "Global Economic-Growth Story Fades." Japan's growth rate is estimated to have slowed to slightly negative in the first quarter. The European Union was at an anemic 0.4 percent. The pace of global growth is expected to be much slower over the next two years, according to the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund.

Then there is the outlier: the United States. "
Putting America First Has Made USA No. 1




Just the opposite of the United States under Franklin Roosevelt, when Europe came out of the Depression before America did....


The League of Nations collected data from many nations throughout the 1930s onindustrial production, unemployment, national debt, and taxes.
How did Roosevelt's United States compare with other countries?

In all four of these key indexes the United States did very poorly, almost worse than any other nation in the study.

Most European nations handled the Great Depression better than the United States.
World Economic Survey: Eighth Year, 1938/1939 (Geneva: League of Nations, 1939) p.128, quoted in "New Deal or Raw Deal?: How FDR's Economic Legacy Has Damaged America," by Burton W. Folsom Jr

So...not only did the "great" Emperor Franklin the First manage to extend and magnify the depression, but he couldn't compete with the leaders of most European nations.



Just imagine....if FDR had been as good a manager as Trump is.

He is living off of what Obama started, take away all regulations and the businesses will boom themselves right out of business. If might be good for you elites, but the working class have not noticed, since the working class has always worked, and have not depended on the stock market and passive income.




"He is living off of what Obama started,...."


Let's check:


Let's give you a dozen chances to prove you aren't a lying low-life Liberal:

1... in today’s recovery — the slowest in the modern era going back to 1947 — private capital investment has lagged badly. ... so has the jobs situation, with 92 million dropping out of the workforce altogether. A labor-participation rate of 62.8% and an employment-to-population rate of 58% are historic lows indicative of the anemic jobs recovery. Big Business Swings Behind a Mantra of Growth - The New York Sun


2. Tavis Smiley: 'Black People Will Have Lost Ground in Every Single Economic Indicator' Under Obama
Tavis Smiley: 'Black People Will Have Lost Ground in Every Single Economic Indicator' Under Obama

["BET Founder: Trump’s economy bringing black workers back into the workforce"

BET Founder: Trump's economy bringing black workers back into the workforce]




3. . "Incomes Have Dropped Twice as Much During the 'Recovery' as During the Recession
. ...the Census Bureau's Current Population Survey ....indicate that the real (inflation-adjusted) median annual household income in America has fallen by 4.4 percent during the "recovery," after having fallen by 1.8 during the recession.
Incomes Have Dropped Twice as Much During the 'Recovery' as During the Recession


4. . In a stunning Tuesday report, Gallup CEO and Chairman Jim Clifton revealed that “for the first time in 35 years, American business deaths now outnumber business births.”Clifton says for the past six years since 2008, employer business startups have fallen below the business failure rate, spurring what he calls “an underground earthquake” that only stands to worsen as lagging U.S. Census data becomes available.
“Let’s get one thing clear: This economy is never truly coming back unless we reverse the birth and death trends of American businesses,” writes Clifton."Economic Death Spiral: More American Businesses Dying Than Starting - Breitbart


5. "Surprise: U.S. Economic Data Have Been the World's Most Disappointing
It's not only the just-released University of Michigan consumer confidence report and February retail sales on Thursday that surprised economists and investors with another dose of underwhelming news. Overall, U.S. economic data have been falling short of prognosticators' expectations by the most in six years." Surprise: U.S. Economic Data Have Been the World's Most Disappointing

6. . "That basic math is why middle class incomes have been in decline under Obama. The Census Bureau reports that since Obama became President 7 years ago, real median household income has fallen by $1,300 a year. Heritage Foundation Chief Economist Steve Moore explained in testimony before the Ways and Means Committee, “At 2 percent growth the economy doesn’t spin off enough jobs to increase wages, and tax revenues grow much too slowly to balance the budget.”
The recession officially ended more than 6 years ago. Wages and incomes have always grown in recoveries, not declined. Moreover, the American historical record is the deeper the recession, the stronger the recovery. The economy is supposed to boom in a recovery to catch up with its long term economic growth trendline. But over 6 years after the recession ended, that still has not happened. Instead, what we have gotten under President Obama is the worst recovery from a recession since the Great Depression." Realizing The Super Bowl Of American Economic Growth



7. "Even if you leave out the first quarter of 2009—when the recession that started in December 2007 was still ongoing--President Barack Obama has presided over the lowest average first-quarter GDP growth of any president who has served since 1947, which is the earliest year for which the Bureau of Economic Analysis has calculated quarterly GDP growth. " http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/terence...-obama-has-lowest-average-1stq-gdp-growth-any


8. The Obama Administration is aggressively exploiting regulation to achieve its policy agenda, issuing 157 new major rules at a cost to Americans approaching $73 billion annually....twice the annual average of his predecessor George W. Bush. And much more regulation is on the way, with another 125 major rules on the Administration’s to-do list, including dozens linked to the Dodd–Frank financial regulation law and the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, known as Obamacare. Red Tape Rising: Five Years of Regulatory Expansion


9. . "...take-home pay for many American workers has effectively fallen since the economic recovery began in 2009, according to a new study by an advocacy group that is to be released on Thursday.

The declines were greatest for the lowest-paid workers in sectors where hiring has been strong — home health care, food preparation and retailing — even though wages were already below average to begin with in those service industries.

“Stagnant wages are a problem for everyone at this point, but the imbalance in the economy has become more pronounced since the recession,”..." http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/03/b...rkers-see-biggest-drop-in-paychecks.html?_r=0


10. . "Obamacare health insurance co-ops surged past the $1 billion mark in losses this week, making history of sorts.The insolvencies, totaling $1.36 billion, mean that the co-ops have burned through more than half of the original $2 billion appropriatedin 2010 for the program under the Affordable Care Act. The funds were loaned to the start-up co-ops in 2012 and were to be repaid in 15 years, according to the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, which manages Obamacare.


...13 of the 23 federally-financed Obamacare co-ops have officially failed in only two years. Most are in the process of default as insurance regulators attempt to pay customer’s medical bills, cover medical providers and pay other creditors.
Obamacare Co-Op Mess Causes $1.3 Billion In Losses


11. Obama is the first President never to have had a year of 3% or better economic growth: "... annual growth during Obama’s “recovery” has never topped 3%. By comparison, it never fell below 3% during the Reagan recovery. And in the nine years following the 1990-91 recession, GDP grew faster than 3% in all but two. Heck, even Jimmy Carter had some strong growth years." President Obama's Growth Gap Hits $1.31 Trillion | Investor's Business Daily

a. "The years since 2007 have been a macroeconomic disaster for the United States of a magnitude unprecedented since the Great Depression." Obama: Always Wrong, Never In Doubt

b. ".... first president since Hoover to never have a single year above 3% GDP growth."Hedge fund billionaire calls Obama economy 'amazing'



12. ".... calculating how much the debt increased during Obama's two terms. On January 20, 2009, when he was sworn in, the debt was $10.626 trillion. On January 20, 2017, it was $19.947 trillion. That's why most people say Obama added $9 trillion to the debt, more than any other president."
How Much Did Obama Add to the Nation's Debt?





Waiting....you dunce.

Scouring the internet for blog posts and right wing opinion pieces on the economy is a bullshit response. I can google and come up with a similar number of pieces which say the opposite and the sources will be far more credible.

And you’re off-topic. This is a thread about dairy tariffs not the Obama economy




"Scouring the internet for blog posts and right wing opinion pieces on the economy is a bullshit response. I can google and come up with a similar number of pieces which say the opposite and the sources will be far more credible."

Which one are not credible???


1... in today’s recovery — the slowest in the modern era going back to 1947 — private capital investment has lagged badly. ... so has the jobs situation, with 92 million dropping out of the workforce altogether. A labor-participation rate of 62.8% and an employment-to-population rate of 58% are historic lows indicative of the anemic jobs recovery. Big Business Swings Behind a Mantra of Growth - The New York Sun


2. Tavis Smiley: 'Black People Will Have Lost Ground in Every Single Economic Indicator' Under Obama
Tavis Smiley: 'Black People Will Have Lost Ground in Every Single Economic Indicator' Under Obama

["BET Founder: Trump’s economy bringing black workers back into the workforce"

BET Founder: Trump's economy bringing black workers back into the workforce]




3. . "Incomes Have Dropped Twice as Much During the 'Recovery' as During the Recession
. ...the Census Bureau's Current Population Survey ....indicate that the real (inflation-adjusted) median annual household income in America has fallen by 4.4 percent during the "recovery," after having fallen by 1.8 during the recession.
Incomes Have Dropped Twice as Much During the 'Recovery' as During the Recession


4. . In a stunning Tuesday report, Gallup CEO and Chairman Jim Clifton revealed that “for the first time in 35 years, American business deaths now outnumber business births.”Clifton says for the past six years since 2008, employer business startups have fallen below the business failure rate, spurring what he calls “an underground earthquake” that only stands to worsen as lagging U.S. Census data becomes available.
“Let’s get one thing clear: This economy is never truly coming back unless we reverse the birth and death trends of American businesses,” writes Clifton."Economic Death Spiral: More American Businesses Dying Than Starting - Breitbart


5. "Surprise: U.S. Economic Data Have Been the World's Most Disappointing
It's not only the just-released University of Michigan consumer confidence report and February retail sales on Thursday that surprised economists and investors with another dose of underwhelming news. Overall, U.S. economic data have been falling short of prognosticators' expectations by the most in six years." Surprise: U.S. Economic Data Have Been the World's Most Disappointing

6. . "That basic math is why middle class incomes have been in decline under Obama. The Census Bureau reports that since Obama became President 7 years ago, real median household income has fallen by $1,300 a year. Heritage Foundation Chief Economist Steve Moore explained in testimony before the Ways and Means Committee, “At 2 percent growth the economy doesn’t spin off enough jobs to increase wages, and tax revenues grow much too slowly to balance the budget.”
The recession officially ended more than 6 years ago. Wages and incomes have always grown in recoveries, not declined. Moreover, the American historical record is the deeper the recession, the stronger the recovery. The economy is supposed to boom in a recovery to catch up with its long term economic growth trendline. But over 6 years after the recession ended, that still has not happened. Instead, what we have gotten under President Obama is the worst recovery from a recession since the Great Depression." Realizing The Super Bowl Of American Economic Growth



7. "Even if you leave out the first quarter of 2009—when the recession that started in December 2007 was still ongoing--President Barack Obama has presided over the lowest average first-quarter GDP growth of any president who has served since 1947, which is the earliest year for which the Bureau of Economic Analysis has calculated quarterly GDP growth. " http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/terence...-obama-has-lowest-average-1stq-gdp-growth-any


8. The Obama Administration is aggressively exploiting regulation to achieve its policy agenda, issuing 157 new major rules at a cost to Americans approaching $73 billion annually....twice the annual average of his predecessor George W. Bush. And much more regulation is on the way, with another 125 major rules on the Administration’s to-do list, including dozens linked to the Dodd–Frank financial regulation law and the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, known as Obamacare. Red Tape Rising: Five Years of Regulatory Expansion


9. . "...take-home pay for many American workers has effectively fallen since the economic recovery began in 2009, according to a new study by an advocacy group that is to be released on Thursday.

The declines were greatest for the lowest-paid workers in sectors where hiring has been strong — home health care, food preparation and retailing — even though wages were already below average to begin with in those service industries.

“Stagnant wages are a problem for everyone at this point, but the imbalance in the economy has become more pronounced since the recession,”..." http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/03/b...rkers-see-biggest-drop-in-paychecks.html?_r=0


10. . "Obamacare health insurance co-ops surged past the $1 billion mark in losses this week, making history of sorts.The insolvencies, totaling $1.36 billion, mean that the co-ops have burned through more than half of the original $2 billion appropriatedin 2010 for the program under the Affordable Care Act. The funds were loaned to the start-up co-ops in 2012 and were to be repaid in 15 years, according to the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, which manages Obamacare.


...13 of the 23 federally-financed Obamacare co-ops have officially failed in only two years. Most are in the process of default as insurance regulators attempt to pay customer’s medical bills, cover medical providers and pay other creditors.
Obamacare Co-Op Mess Causes $1.3 Billion In Losses


11. Obama is the first President never to have had a year of 3% or better economic growth: "... annual growth during Obama’s “recovery” has never topped 3%. By comparison, it never fell below 3% during the Reagan recovery. And in the nine years following the 1990-91 recession, GDP grew faster than 3% in all but two. Heck, even Jimmy Carter had some strong growth years." President Obama's Growth Gap Hits $1.31 Trillion | Investor's Business Daily

a. "The years since 2007 have been a macroeconomic disaster for the United States of a magnitude unprecedented since the Great Depression." Obama: Always Wrong, Never In Doubt

b. ".... first president since Hoover to never have a single year above 3% GDP growth."Hedge fund billionaire calls Obama economy 'amazing'



12. ".... calculating how much the debt increased during Obama's two terms. On January 20, 2009, when he was sworn in, the debt was $10.626 trillion. On January 20, 2017, it was $19.947 trillion. That's why most people say Obama added $9 trillion to the debt, more than any other president."
How Much Did Obama Add to the Nation's Debt?





Ready to admit that I am 100% correct, and you are 100% wrong?

Out of your 12 Articles, you have 3 legitimate sources. But again you’ve posted half truths.

The Obama recovery was hamstring by a Congress and a Senate which wouldn’t pass anything. It could have been a lot better recovery had the Bush tax cuts been allowed to expire in 2011.

Economic growth would have greatly improved with investments in infrastructure. It would have provided good paying construction jobs, and made the US a stronger contender for international investment.

Health care costs, low quality of public education, and crumbing infrastructure are barriers to companies relocating to the US. In short: First World, middle class executives dont want to move to the US.

Obama's Not so Shovel Ready Economy

 
"But, whether this is true depends on whom you ask. Both the U.S. and Canada say they are running trade surpluses with each other.
....data from Statistics Canada says the U.S. had a $14.6 billion trade deficit for goods and services with its neighbor to the north in 2016, according to Bloomberg."
Trump Claims the U.S. Has a Trade Deficit With Canada. That’s Not So Clear
We have a trade surplus with Canada, period.




Turns out you're as correct as your claim that you're a bomb expert.


"But, whether this is true depends on whom you ask. Both the U.S. and Canada say they are running trade surpluses with each other.
....data from Statistics Canada says the U.S. had a $14.6 billion trade deficit for goods and services with its neighbor to the north in 2016, according to Bloomberg."
Trump Claims the U.S. Has a Trade Deficit With Canada. That’s Not So Clear
Nice try, dipshit. I notice you deliberately left this out:

Statistics from the Office of the United States Trade Representative refute Trump’s claim of a trade deficit. The U.S. government agency said U.S. had a $12.5 billion trade surplus for goods and services in 2016, exporting $320.1 billion and importing $307.6 billion.


Clean up your language, try to post like an adult, and I'll wound you again.
BWA-HA-HA-HA! You amuse me, dipshit. I know you are terrified of me. That's why you derail your own topics when I bitch slap you around.

I'd love for you to tell us the Trump Administration is lying when it says we have a trade surplus with Canada:

U.S. goods and services trade with Canada totaled an estimated $673.9 billion in 2017. Exports were $341.2 billion; imports were $332.8 billion. The U.S. goods and services trade surplus with Canada was $8.4 billion in 2017.

Canada | United States Trade Representative

"However, the international shipment of non-U.S. goods through the United States can make standard measures of bilateral trade balances potentially misleading. For example, it is common for goods to be shipped through regional trade hubs without further processing before final shipment to their ultimate destination. This can be seen in data reported by the United States’ two largest trading partners, Canada and Mexico."

Why'd you leave off the very next sentence?

Odd
 
"But, whether this is true depends on whom you ask. Both the U.S. and Canada say they are running trade surpluses with each other.
....data from Statistics Canada says the U.S. had a $14.6 billion trade deficit for goods and services with its neighbor to the north in 2016, according to Bloomberg."
Trump Claims the U.S. Has a Trade Deficit With Canada. That’s Not So Clear
We have a trade surplus with Canada, period.




Turns out you're as correct as your claim that you're a bomb expert.


"But, whether this is true depends on whom you ask. Both the U.S. and Canada say they are running trade surpluses with each other.
....data from Statistics Canada says the U.S. had a $14.6 billion trade deficit for goods and services with its neighbor to the north in 2016, according to Bloomberg."
Trump Claims the U.S. Has a Trade Deficit With Canada. That’s Not So Clear
Nice try, dipshit. I notice you deliberately left this out:

Statistics from the Office of the United States Trade Representative refute Trump’s claim of a trade deficit. The U.S. government agency said U.S. had a $12.5 billion trade surplus for goods and services in 2016, exporting $320.1 billion and importing $307.6 billion.


Clean up your language, try to post like an adult, and I'll wound you again.
BWA-HA-HA-HA! You amuse me, dipshit. I know you are terrified of me. That's why you derail your own topics when I bitch slap you around.

I'd love for you to tell us the Trump Administration is lying when it says we have a trade surplus with Canada:

U.S. goods and services trade with Canada totaled an estimated $673.9 billion in 2017. Exports were $341.2 billion; imports were $332.8 billion. The U.S. goods and services trade surplus with Canada was $8.4 billion in 2017.

Canada | United States Trade Representative




No one ever loved you enough to teach you how to behave like an adult?
 
You are wasting your time. Instead of answers to your challenges you will get a statement that all her posts are 100% accurate and proven with her cut and paste. You will also get another half page or more of either reused or maybe even new cut and paste to deflect away from answering your challenge.

I'm particularly patient.

But I do have to get some work done this morning.

I'll check back on her later on.


Check on what???


The OP stated, and proved, that Trump was correct about the 270% tariff by Canada.

Isn't that what brought you out from under your rock, isn't it?

If you have some other point to make, start a thread about same.
The 270% tariff number is a distortion and therefore a falsehood. Canada controls the amount of milk and some milk products with a system of quotas. Milk and milk products are only taxed at the high tariff number after they reach the quota.

The dairy tariff issue is a complicated one, but the blanket claim of a 270% tariff is a big enough distortion to make it a false statement. Over 330 metric tons of processed milk goes to Canada without a tariff and there is not a limit on raw milk. Separate quotas apply to other dairy products such as butter.
 
You are wasting your time. Instead of answers to your challenges you will get a statement that all her posts are 100% accurate and proven with her cut and paste. You will also get another half page or more of either reused or maybe even new cut and paste to deflect away from answering your challenge.

I'm particularly patient.

But I do have to get some work done this morning.

I'll check back on her later on.


Check on what???


The OP stated, and proved, that Trump was correct about the 270% tariff by Canada.

Isn't that what brought you out from under your rock, isn't it?

If you have some other point to make, start a thread about same.
The 270% tariff number is a distortion and therefore a falsehood. Canada controls the amount of milk and some milk products with a system of quotas. Milk and milk products are only taxed at the high tariff number after they reach the quota.

The dairy tariff issue is a complicated one, but the blanket claim of a 270% tariff if a big enough distortion to make it a false statement. Over 330 metric tons of processed milk goes to Canada without a tariff and there is not a limit on raw milk. Separate quotas apply to other dairy products such as butter.


"Trump is right that Canada imposes very high tariffs on dairy products that limit U.S. participation in the Canadian market, though the exact percentages vary depending on the product and when it is imported.

Canada heavily regulates its dairy industry with a supply management system that impacts production and sets target prices for dairy products. As a part of that system, it uses set tariff rate quotas (TRQ) for imports. Dairy products imported before a quota on a product is met are subject low tariffs or no tariffs, while products imported after the quota are subject to tariffs ranging from 201.5 percent to 313.5 percent.

“As a whole, the 270 percent figure though represents a strong ballpark for the various exorbitant tariff rates that limit US dairy access to the Canadian market,” Shawna Morris, trade policy vice president at the U.S. Dairy Export Council, told The Daily Caller News Foundation in an email."
 
We have a trade surplus with Canada, period.




Turns out you're as correct as your claim that you're a bomb expert.


"But, whether this is true depends on whom you ask. Both the U.S. and Canada say they are running trade surpluses with each other.
....data from Statistics Canada says the U.S. had a $14.6 billion trade deficit for goods and services with its neighbor to the north in 2016, according to Bloomberg."
Trump Claims the U.S. Has a Trade Deficit With Canada. That’s Not So Clear
Nice try, dipshit. I notice you deliberately left this out:

Statistics from the Office of the United States Trade Representative refute Trump’s claim of a trade deficit. The U.S. government agency said U.S. had a $12.5 billion trade surplus for goods and services in 2016, exporting $320.1 billion and importing $307.6 billion.


Clean up your language, try to post like an adult, and I'll wound you again.
BWA-HA-HA-HA! You amuse me, dipshit. I know you are terrified of me. That's why you derail your own topics when I bitch slap you around.

I'd love for you to tell us the Trump Administration is lying when it says we have a trade surplus with Canada:

U.S. goods and services trade with Canada totaled an estimated $673.9 billion in 2017. Exports were $341.2 billion; imports were $332.8 billion. The U.S. goods and services trade surplus with Canada was $8.4 billion in 2017.

Canada | United States Trade Representative




No one ever loved you enough to teach you how to behave like an adult?
Irony!

Go ahead. Tell us the Trump Administration is lying when they say we have a trade surplus with Canada.
 
In the years since NAFTA, U.S. trade with its North American neighbors has more than tripled, growing more rapidly than U.S. trade with the rest of the world. Canada and Mexico are the two largest destinations for U.S. exports, accounting for more than a third of the total. Most estimates conclude that the deal had a modest but positive impact on U.S. GDP of less than 0.5 percent, or a total addition of up to $80 billion dollars to the U.S. economy upon full implementation, or several billion dollars of added growth per year.

Such upsides of trade often escape notice, because while the costs are highly concentrated in specific industries like auto manufacturing, the benefits of a deal like NAFTA are distributed widely across society. Supporters of NAFTA estimate that some fourteen million jobs rely on trade with Canada and Mexico, while the nearly two hundred thousand export-related jobs created annually by the pact pay 15 to 20 percent more on average than the jobs that were lost.


NAFTA’s Economic Impact

So...yeah.

Trump had a hissy fit that one of our closest friends didn't take his new tariffs lying down. A country with whom we have a TRADE SURPLUS.

The man is an idiot.
 
You are wasting your time. Instead of answers to your challenges you will get a statement that all her posts are 100% accurate and proven with her cut and paste. You will also get another half page or more of either reused or maybe even new cut and paste to deflect away from answering your challenge.

I'm particularly patient.

But I do have to get some work done this morning.

I'll check back on her later on.


Check on what???


The OP stated, and proved, that Trump was correct about the 270% tariff by Canada.

Isn't that what brought you out from under your rock, isn't it?

If you have some other point to make, start a thread about same.
The 270% tariff number is a distortion and therefore a falsehood. Canada controls the amount of milk and some milk products with a system of quotas. Milk and milk products are only taxed at the high tariff number after they reach the quota.

The dairy tariff issue is a complicated one, but the blanket claim of a 270% tariff is a big enough distortion to make it a false statement. Over 330 metric tons of processed milk goes to Canada without a tariff and there is not a limit on raw milk. Separate quotas apply to other dairy products such as butter.

You have to quote the Talking Points Soros feeds you
 
You are wasting your time. Instead of answers to your challenges you will get a statement that all her posts are 100% accurate and proven with her cut and paste. You will also get another half page or more of either reused or maybe even new cut and paste to deflect away from answering your challenge.

I'm particularly patient.

But I do have to get some work done this morning.

I'll check back on her later on.


Check on what???


The OP stated, and proved, that Trump was correct about the 270% tariff by Canada.

Isn't that what brought you out from under your rock, isn't it?

If you have some other point to make, start a thread about same.
The 270% tariff number is a distortion and therefore a falsehood. Canada controls the amount of milk and some milk products with a system of quotas. Milk and milk products are only taxed at the high tariff number after they reach the quota.

The dairy tariff issue is a complicated one, but the blanket claim of a 270% tariff if a big enough distortion to make it a false statement. Over 330 metric tons of processed milk goes to Canada without a tariff and there is not a limit on raw milk. Separate quotas apply to other dairy products such as butter.


"Trump is right that Canada imposes very high tariffs on dairy products that limit U.S. participation in the Canadian market, though the exact percentages vary depending on the product and when it is imported.

Canada heavily regulates its dairy industry with a supply management system that impacts production and sets target prices for dairy products. As a part of that system, it uses set tariff rate quotas (TRQ) for imports. Dairy products imported before a quota on a product is met are subject low tariffs or no tariffs, while products imported after the quota are subject to tariffs ranging from 201.5 percent to 313.5 percent.

“As a whole, the 270 percent figure though represents a strong ballpark for the various exorbitant tariff rates that limit US dairy access to the Canadian market,” Shawna Morris, trade policy vice president at the U.S. Dairy Export Council, told The Daily Caller News Foundation in an email."
More distortion and denial. The OP uses a bias source, the U.S. Dairy Export Council to complain the Canadian quotas are to high as are the tariffs.
 
You are wasting your time. Instead of answers to your challenges you will get a statement that all her posts are 100% accurate and proven with her cut and paste. You will also get another half page or more of either reused or maybe even new cut and paste to deflect away from answering your challenge.

I'm particularly patient.

But I do have to get some work done this morning.

I'll check back on her later on.


Check on what???


The OP stated, and proved, that Trump was correct about the 270% tariff by Canada.

Isn't that what brought you out from under your rock, isn't it?

If you have some other point to make, start a thread about same.
The 270% tariff number is a distortion and therefore a falsehood. Canada controls the amount of milk and some milk products with a system of quotas. Milk and milk products are only taxed at the high tariff number after they reach the quota.

The dairy tariff issue is a complicated one, but the blanket claim of a 270% tariff is a big enough distortion to make it a false statement. Over 330 metric tons of processed milk goes to Canada without a tariff and there is not a limit on raw milk. Separate quotas apply to other dairy products such as butter.

You have to quote the Talking Points Soros feeds you
Ya, it's the fault of the Nazi Jew you knuckleheads are obsessed with.
 
You are wasting your time. Instead of answers to your challenges you will get a statement that all her posts are 100% accurate and proven with her cut and paste. You will also get another half page or more of either reused or maybe even new cut and paste to deflect away from answering your challenge.

I'm particularly patient.

But I do have to get some work done this morning.

I'll check back on her later on.


Check on what???


The OP stated, and proved, that Trump was correct about the 270% tariff by Canada.

Isn't that what brought you out from under your rock, isn't it?

If you have some other point to make, start a thread about same.
The 270% tariff number is a distortion and therefore a falsehood. Canada controls the amount of milk and some milk products with a system of quotas. Milk and milk products are only taxed at the high tariff number after they reach the quota.

The dairy tariff issue is a complicated one, but the blanket claim of a 270% tariff if a big enough distortion to make it a false statement. Over 330 metric tons of processed milk goes to Canada without a tariff and there is not a limit on raw milk. Separate quotas apply to other dairy products such as butter.


"Trump is right that Canada imposes very high tariffs on dairy products that limit U.S. participation in the Canadian market, though the exact percentages vary depending on the product and when it is imported.

Canada heavily regulates its dairy industry with a supply management system that impacts production and sets target prices for dairy products. As a part of that system, it uses set tariff rate quotas (TRQ) for imports. Dairy products imported before a quota on a product is met are subject low tariffs or no tariffs, while products imported after the quota are subject to tariffs ranging from 201.5 percent to 313.5 percent.

“As a whole, the 270 percent figure though represents a strong ballpark for the various exorbitant tariff rates that limit US dairy access to the Canadian market,” Shawna Morris, trade policy vice president at the U.S. Dairy Export Council, told The Daily Caller News Foundation in an email."
More distortion and denial. The OP uses a bias source, the U.S. Dairy Export Council to complain the Canadian quotas are to high as are the tariffs.



I quoted U.S. Dairy Export Council, while the best you could do is blow hot air.
 
You are wasting your time. Instead of answers to your challenges you will get a statement that all her posts are 100% accurate and proven with her cut and paste. You will also get another half page or more of either reused or maybe even new cut and paste to deflect away from answering your challenge.

I'm particularly patient.

But I do have to get some work done this morning.

I'll check back on her later on.


Check on what???


The OP stated, and proved, that Trump was correct about the 270% tariff by Canada.

Isn't that what brought you out from under your rock, isn't it?

If you have some other point to make, start a thread about same.
The 270% tariff number is a distortion and therefore a falsehood. Canada controls the amount of milk and some milk products with a system of quotas. Milk and milk products are only taxed at the high tariff number after they reach the quota.

The dairy tariff issue is a complicated one, but the blanket claim of a 270% tariff is a big enough distortion to make it a false statement. Over 330 metric tons of processed milk goes to Canada without a tariff and there is not a limit on raw milk. Separate quotas apply to other dairy products such as butter.

You have to quote the Talking Points Soros feeds you
Ya, it's the fault of the Nazi Jew you knuckleheads are obsessed with.



I'll eschew the description you've chosen, but Soros IS the Democrat Party.


1. The Shadow Party was born July 17, 2003, at Soros’s estate. It created the largest and most powerful juggernaut in American history. Present were Madeleine Albright, John Podesta, John Pope (director of the Sierra Club), Andy Stern (SEIU), among others. The basic structure of the Shadow Party was a network of seven 527 organizations.

a. “… the network of nonprofit activist groups organized by George Soros and others to mobilize resources -- money, get-out-the-vote drives, campaign advertising and policy initiates -- to elect Democratic candidates and guide the Democratic Party towards the left. The Internet fund-raising operation MoveOn.org is a key component. The Shadow Party in this sense was conceived and organized principally by Soros, Hillary Clinton and Harold Ickes. Its efforts are amplified by, and coordinated with, key government unions and the activist groups associated with the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN). The key organizers of these groups are veterans of the Sixties left.” http://www.churchmilitant.tv/cia/02fake/102.pdf
 
I'm particularly patient.

But I do have to get some work done this morning.

I'll check back on her later on.


Check on what???


The OP stated, and proved, that Trump was correct about the 270% tariff by Canada.

Isn't that what brought you out from under your rock, isn't it?

If you have some other point to make, start a thread about same.
The 270% tariff number is a distortion and therefore a falsehood. Canada controls the amount of milk and some milk products with a system of quotas. Milk and milk products are only taxed at the high tariff number after they reach the quota.

The dairy tariff issue is a complicated one, but the blanket claim of a 270% tariff is a big enough distortion to make it a false statement. Over 330 metric tons of processed milk goes to Canada without a tariff and there is not a limit on raw milk. Separate quotas apply to other dairy products such as butter.

You have to quote the Talking Points Soros feeds you
Ya, it's the fault of the Nazi Jew you knuckleheads are obsessed with.



I'll eschew the description you've chosen, but Soros IS the Democrat Party.


1. The Shadow Party was born July 17, 2003, at Soros’s estate. It created the largest and most powerful juggernaut in American history. Present were Madeleine Albright, John Podesta, John Pope (director of the Sierra Club), Andy Stern (SEIU), among others. The basic structure of the Shadow Party was a network of seven 527 organizations.

a. “… the network of nonprofit activist groups organized by George Soros and others to mobilize resources -- money, get-out-the-vote drives, campaign advertising and policy initiates -- to elect Democratic candidates and guide the Democratic Party towards the left. The Internet fund-raising operation MoveOn.org is a key component. The Shadow Party in this sense was conceived and organized principally by Soros, Hillary Clinton and Harold Ickes. Its efforts are amplified by, and coordinated with, key government unions and the activist groups associated with the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN). The key organizers of these groups are veterans of the Sixties left.” http://www.churchmilitant.tv/cia/02fake/102.pdf
Again, more evidence your threads are nothing more than conspiracy theories you try to present as something other than conspiracy theories or crap that belongs in the Rubber Room.
 
So you could find nothing untrue in the OP....you were simply lying because of how painful the election proved for you???


Excellent.


Oh, there you are. Hi.

As I was saying, you'd mentioned liberty and freedom in the op and placed it into perspective with fair trade.

I'm of the educated position that fair trade is patently contrary to freedom. Freedom properly defined as liberty against government-over-man.

So, I was asking you to support the tenor of that copypasta there in the op from what yo umight believe to be a conservative, freedom-loving, perspective.

To repeat, what is free about fair trade, in your conservative view. And, again, what is so patriotic about tariffs. I want to move onto the fact that other nations have to earn their money overseas while we have the benefit of the federal government printing our money, but that can wait for now

That's the purpose of your thread, right? To patriotize tariffs?

Again, your own words, please.

Thanks!
You are wasting your time. Instead of answers to your challenges you will get a statement that all her posts are 100% accurate and proven with her cut and paste. You will also get another half page or more of either reused or maybe even new cut and paste to deflect away from answering your challenge.


which ones are untrue? and provide proof.

She’s provided no proof that her claims are true. Breitbart, the Daily Caller, Heritage.org, the New York Post, and CNS are highly biased right wing sources with no credibility whatsoever. Why should other have to provide proof when she fails to do so?

The New York Times piece points out how much better EU countries and Canada are doing in their recovery from the recession, in large part because other countries aren’t dealing with a legislative branch which refuses to endorse the President’s policies.

PC’s endless copying and pasting of same articles over and over demonstrate in spades that she’s completely incapable of reasonable discourse and is only capable of cutting and pasting, with any ability to comprehend what the implications of her articles might be.

She frequently posts links that do not say what she thinks they say and is often made to look foolish in doing so.

Whatever money that was spent on her so-called education was pissed away on a hopeless cause.

And again, the topic is Tariffs and Canada so the entire discussion violates forum rules.
 
Once again the far left does not know what they speak of:

Trade in Goods with Canada

TOTAL 2018 98,918.1 103,472.1 -4,554.0

Foreign Trade - U.S. Trade with Canada

That looks like a deficit now matter how any far left drone wants to spin it..
Your link only shows trade in goods. It does not show trade in services.

We have a trading surplus with Canada.

Once again, Koshbot does not know of what it speaks.
 
I'm particularly patient.

But I do have to get some work done this morning.

I'll check back on her later on.


Check on what???


The OP stated, and proved, that Trump was correct about the 270% tariff by Canada.

Isn't that what brought you out from under your rock, isn't it?

If you have some other point to make, start a thread about same.
The 270% tariff number is a distortion and therefore a falsehood. Canada controls the amount of milk and some milk products with a system of quotas. Milk and milk products are only taxed at the high tariff number after they reach the quota.

The dairy tariff issue is a complicated one, but the blanket claim of a 270% tariff is a big enough distortion to make it a false statement. Over 330 metric tons of processed milk goes to Canada without a tariff and there is not a limit on raw milk. Separate quotas apply to other dairy products such as butter.

You have to quote the Talking Points Soros feeds you
Ya, it's the fault of the Nazi Jew you knuckleheads are obsessed with.



I'll eschew the description you've chosen, but Soros IS the Democrat Party.


1. The Shadow Party was born July 17, 2003, at Soros’s estate. It created the largest and most powerful juggernaut in American history. Present were Madeleine Albright, John Podesta, John Pope (director of the Sierra Club), Andy Stern (SEIU), among others. The basic structure of the Shadow Party was a network of seven 527 organizations.

a. “… the network of nonprofit activist groups organized by George Soros and others to mobilize resources -- money, get-out-the-vote drives, campaign advertising and policy initiates -- to elect Democratic candidates and guide the Democratic Party towards the left. The Internet fund-raising operation MoveOn.org is a key component. The Shadow Party in this sense was conceived and organized principally by Soros, Hillary Clinton and Harold Ickes. Its efforts are amplified by, and coordinated with, key government unions and the activist groups associated with the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN). The key organizers of these groups are veterans of the Sixties left.” http://www.churchmilitant.tv/cia/02fake/102.pdf

Oh no, not the Soros Boogeyman Man! Oh the Horror!!!! Only a total idiot believes the “Soros as the grand Puppertmaster” conspiracy theory.

You watched too many Saturday morning cartoon shows. The guys who are trying to take over the world are Vladimir Putin, Xi, and the other “Presidents for life”. Trump is helping them do it.
 

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