Nuclear deal between Iran, world powers - has been reached

[skye]

so do we all have friends/relatives we can now say "I told u so!!!"! you bumbling idiot! how could you vote for Iran to make nuclear bombs you bafoon!!!

Because he hates America...he hates Israel and he has that viper Valerie Jarrett at his side!

That's why!

 

[rhodescholar]

no i get it. the only solution you will accept is a war you won't be fighting in - and you're willing to lie about the deal that was made to push that agenda.

I can guarantee you a war will happen with iran, sadly they will have far more powerful weapons with which to fight, and it will be due to idiots like you who helped them obtain them.

 

[Rexx Taylor]

so do we all have friends/relatives we can now say "I told u so!!!"! you bumbling idiot! how could you vote for Iran to make nuclear bombs you bafoon!!!

Because he hates America...he hates Israel and he has that viper Valerie Jarrett at his side!

That's why!

i can still remember friends or work friends who were so for Obama, and I told them what was going to happen if he won, and when he won again, i went into panic mode in fear of my life cause bambi was for Iran building bombs!

 

[rhodescholar]

honestly i don't think iran wants a bomb.

Arak, a plutonium plant with no civilian uses, and fordow being built under a mountain, plus many other facilities being built underneath/next to civilian neighborhoods, would not have occurred unless they were seeking a weapon.

i think they want their frozen assets and the ability to sell their oil. I think they know that they'll never be in a position to use a nuclear weapon, but they could use the funds to build their economy and offer aid to other nations to build their sphere of influence.[q/uote]

LOL, you actually think they will use those funds for anything but more terrorism? Damn, there's a lot of stupid people out there in the world.

what does a nuclear weapon get them?

Immunity, for starters, while conducting even more terrorist attacks worldwide. A nuclear umbrella over iran while it performs huge amounts more of the same terrorism it has been using for 35+ years would be simply unimaginable.

 

[rhodescholar]

Americans had little faith in Russia complying with nuke treaties yet it was still worth giving it a whirl. And in the end, russia did comply with the terms of the treaty. The same is true here with Iran. Let's give it a whirl.

Really? Do facts interest you, dimwit?

U.S. Weighing Punishments for Russia s Nuclear Violations - Bloomberg View

Russian Invasion Breaks Budapest Memorandum May Prompt NATO Action

 

[rhodescholar]

The Idiots cheer as the Idiot in chief cuts a deal with a country that has refused to honor any deal made in decades................and has sent our men in the military to the grave yard..................most of our KIA's in these Wars were via IED's.................and the advanced IED's, and supplies came from Iran...............

Hope you people choke on your stupidity.....................Cut a deal with a country that has sent many of our men home in body bags...............

For a partial list of what iran has done to its people and the americans it has murdered:

Iran regularly hangs gay teens, shoots women like Neda in the streets, arrest young people for wearing jeans, imprison/torture/murder female journalists like zahra kazemi, arrest and torture female cartoonists like Atena, help dictators like assad slaughter 250 THOUSAND people in syria, overthrow a democratically elected regime in Yemen, maim and murder THOUSANDS of US soldiers in iraq, murdered 241 US marines in Beirut, murdered 85 US diplomats in Beirut, murdered 17 US servicemen on the USS Cole, murdered another 19 in the khobar towers bombing, and that does not include the diplomats kidnapped and murdered in Lebanon during the 1980s.

 

[Dot Com]

so do we all have friends/relatives we can now say "I told u so!!!"! you bumbling idiot! how could you vote for Iran to make nuclear bombs you bafoon!!!

Because he hates America...he hates Israel and he has that viper Valerie Jarrett at his side!

That's why!

who do you have by your side? Newsmax or World Nut Daily?

As to the OP, all the nations who negotiated are happy. A few disgruntled MURICAN ODS sufferers like yourself is of little consequence, if any.

 

[rhodescholar]

so do we all have friends/relatives we can now say "I told u so!!!"! you bumbling idiot! how could you vote for Iran to make nuclear bombs you bafoon!!!

The deal was just signed, idiot. Can you send me a check when iran renegs on it within one to two years?

 

[Shrimpbox]

Lets go,with facts that the left refuses to acknowledge. Obama is a serial liar who won the award for the biggest lie,of the year in relation to obamacare. Obamacare was passed because Obama lied about it. Any reasonable person can assume Obama will do the same thing with this deal.

The administration stated flatly that relief on conventional weapons was not part of a,treaty. That turned out to be a lie.

He said it would make the world a safer place. Every talking head believes this will accelerate a nuclear arms race making this most unstable area of the world even more dicey.

Icbms were not included in the deal.

The pentagon is opposed to many of the elements in this treaty

The administration stipulated that inspections anywhere anytime was a prerequisite for an agreement. They lied.

Iran will go to the United Nations, sanctions will be lifted. Other countries will rush in to do business with Iran. The U.S. Will become irrelevant, Iran will get 150 billion in cash, and will forget they ever had an agreement and give the U.S. The finger if they can stop laughing long enough.

Obama is a man more concerned with himself than his country or the people of any other country. Whether with conventional weapons or nukes, the lives of tens of thousands of people who will be killed by the Iranians will be laid at obamas feet. He will not care.

 

[Mertex]

If anyone hates America it is the Republican party and the load of comatose conservatives who agree with the war-hungry GOP politicians who don't mind sending other people's sons and daughters to be killed in another unnecessary war. They are beginning to sound just like they did back in 2003 when they were so sure that Iraq had WMDs and that going in and taking care of Iraq would be a cake-walk and done in short time........4000+ dead American soldiers and more than 10 years later with a new threat (ISIS) created as a result of this unnecessary war, they are now wanting to go to war with Iran.

I suggest that all those that are criticizing the deal volunteer themselves and their families to go fight Iran, if they think that is the only thing that they will agree on.

Is retired Colonel Wilkerson the only sane Republican? It appears so.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

This is Obama's deal with Iran...

 

[rhodescholar]

People - and the fuck-awful media in this country - are so stupid its really quite unbearable.

Forget about the n korean fiasco, let's re-visit an agreement that obama himself handled just a few years ago, that has already fallen apart; the one where syria was to eliminate its chemical weapons program. That arrangement failed, but do we see the scumbag leftist media raising that fact while extolling how wonderful obama is for this fraudulent iran agreement? Of course not, why would they want to expose their pet?

John Kerry declares Syria regime has broken chemical weapons deal - Telegraph

Fool me once....

 

[Mertex]

People - and the fuck-awful media in this country - are so stupid its really quite unbearable.

Forget about the n korean fiasco, let's re-visit an agreement that obama himself handled just a few years ago,

Are you blowing smoke out of your ass? Please show a link showing that Obama made an agreement with Syria to eliminate the use of chemical weapons a few years ago.

Your own article that you posted is very clear that Syria violated the Chemical Weapons Convention.......not some deal made with Obama. Syria broke International law, that was entered into force in 1997....long before Obama became President.


“We believe there is evidence of [President Bashar al-] Assad’s use of chlorine, which when you use it - despite it not being on the list - it is prohibited under the Chemical Weapons Convention,” Mr Kerry told the US House of Representatives. “He’s in violation of the convention.”

that has already fallen apart; the one where syria was to eliminate its chemical weapons program. That arrangement failed, but do we see the scumbag leftist media raising that fact while extolling how wonderful obama is for this fraudulent iran agreement? Of course not, why would they want to expose their pet?

John Kerry declares Syria regime has broken chemical weapons deal - Telegraph

Fool me once....

Maybe you should do a little research before you open your mouth when it is obvious you do not know what the hell you are talking about. Claiming that Obama made that deal just makes you sound ignorant.


Wiki:
The Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC) is an arms control treaty which outlaws the production, stockpiling, and use of chemical weapons and their precursors. The full name of the treaty is the Convention on the Prohibition of the Development, Production, Stockpiling and Use of Chemical Weapons and on their Destruction and it is administered by the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), an intergovernmental organization based in The Hague, Netherlands. The treaty entered into force in 1997. The parties' main obligation under the convention is to prohibit the use and production of chemical weapons, as well as the destruction of all current chemical weapons. The destruction activities are verified by the OPCW.

 

[Statistikhengst]

You all don't know the details yet, and still you are bellyaching like small children.

Have you ever considered researching information like real adults and then discussing it, instead?

That could be a refreshing change of pace for you....

ANY action other than attacking and destroying the current diseased, cancerous terrorist regime of iran is a waste of time.

Neocon warmongering policies have failed miserably. Try again.

 

[Statistikhengst]

As a Jew who feels VERY strongly about Israel and am 100% for Israel's existence and continued flourishing on our wonderful planet, I cannot see a thing in this deal not worth trying. On the surface, this deal looks exceedingly good. Jews should, in my opinion, be breathing a sigh of relief.

No sane israel supporter could possibly support this deal, which places hundreds of billions of dollars in iran's hands. What do you think iran will do with that money?

You are missing the point, but then again, you always do.
An Iran that is constantly starving is more than likely to do everything possible to get a weapon. An Iran where at least enough money is flowing to feed it's own people is likely to not do this.

You crazy-assed neocons will never, ever learn.

Torah does not teach us Jews to annihilate other peoples.

And you are simply too fucking stupid to realize that with a deal this complex and with mechanism to verify that Iran is complying that nothing can happen too quickly, and if Iran does not comply, we can still bomb Iran out of existence, if must be. But that should be the LAST option, not the first. This is where you idiotic neocons fail miserably, every single time. BTW, thanks for the massive fuck-up in Iraq that cost us up to 10 Trillion. Now, that was some fine neocon thinking in action. You fucking morons, set half the world in flames, set our economy 20 years back, and act like nothing happened.

Go fuck yourself, you moron.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Here s the full text of the Iran nuclear deal - Vox

78. If the absence of undeclared nuclear materials and activities or activities inconsistent with the JCPOA cannot be verified after the implementation of the alternative arrangements agreed by Iran and the IAEA, or if the two sides are unable to reach satisfactory arrangements to verify the absence of undeclared nuclear materials and activities or activities inconsistent with the JCPOA at the specified locations within 14 days of the IAEA’s original request for access, Iran, in consultation with the members of the Joint Commission, would resolve the IAEA’s concerns through necessary means agreed between Iran and the IAEA. In the absence of an agreement, the members of the Joint Commission, by consensus or by a vote of 5 or more of its 8 members, would advise on the necessary means to resolve the IAEA's concerns. The process of consultation with, and any action by, the members of the Joint Commission would not exceed 7 days, and Iran would implement the necessary means within 3 additional days.

14 days gives them plenty of time to move their nuke materials onto hiding.
Real sweet deal for Iran.

Those materials can be located from space. They send out radiation that is identifiable. You live in a fantasy world.

 

[mudwhistle]

A nuke deal with the Charles Manson family allowing them to have nukes.
That is so Obama.

I am going to wait for some details, but here is some of what I have read and heard. Some good and some bad.

Here is what conservative townhall listed as some aspects (none of these aspects are not to like from a conservative stand point I might add.

Obama Touts Iran Deal Says Inspectors Will Have Access to Key Facilities - Katie Pavlich
Some key parts of the deal according to the President:
-Iran will not produce weapons grade plutonium or highly enriched uranium
-Iran will remove 2/3 of its centerfuges
-Iran won't use advanced centerfuges
-Iran will not build any new heavy water reactors for the next 15 years
-Iran will get rid of 98 percent of it's enriched uranium stock pile
-Nothing in the deal extends past 15 years

Obama said that if Iran doesn't hold up its end of the deal, sanctions can be snapped back. Critics argue "snapping back" sanctions is impossible and takes a panel and time to happen

Now Obama has been a proven liar. He just doesn't care, because he knows that 90% of US voters won't do their homework anyways. Therefore what he said today might be a lie! That said, if what he stated above is turn, then the list isn't that bad.

But then I also heard on the radio that the US must alert Iran 14 days prior to an inspection (just enough time to clean up or move anything they don't want the inspectors to do) and Iran has the option of denying each and every inspection request. That is not good. How will anything on the list stated above be verified?

None of it is good because Iran has no intention of honoring any deal of any sort with an entity it wants only to destroy. This is where obama does his Carter impression. Carter thought making nuke deals with the USSR was an accomplishment but they honored no deals either.

How come conservatives know everything? They all claimed the United States was going to go to hell in a basket when Obamacare was passed.......here we are....Obamacare doing quite well......and we're not in hell. How do you know that Iran has no intention of honoring any deal? I'm sure they don't want the sanctions....but then, you know best....

Obamacare is doing great......BTW....do you have Obamacare?

Of course.

Why is every politician in Washington asking to be exempt from it?

Because they have their own, and it's very good.

Last I heard it was supposed to cover 30 million people.....but only has 6 million people signed up.....and only a small percentage paid their premiums once they got the bill.

I can't help it that you get erroneous information....when you only watch Faux News and they don't tell you the truth that's what you come up with. That seems like a personal problem. And, post a link about your second lie....which you either made up yourself or got it from Faux News, too.

Since September 2013, more than 10 million individuals in the United States have signed up for health insuranceunder the Affordable Care Act according to a survey conducted by the Urban Institute. Of those 10 million people, almost 70 percent used federal or health insurance exchange sites, known as marketplaces, to purchase plans. The total number of uninsured Americans dropped from 17.7 percent to 12.4 percent this year, which indicates that Obamacare is working to lower the number of people who lack insurance.
2015 OEP Enrollment Numbers - Obamacare.net

Yeah.....it's doing great.

Yeah, it is....so sorry that it didn't come out the way you conservatives wanted it to....must suck to have so many failures in such a short time.


But less than 10 months after major media outlets were hosting debates with headlines like "Is the Affordable Care Act Beyond Repair?", Obama's signature accomplishment is succeeding beyond all reasonable expectation.
The Obamacare train keeps not wrecking - Vox

BTW, Bill Clinton said in 1994 that N. Korea had signed an agreement with him that would begin to cut back and disassemble their nuke program.

Now N. Korea is a nuclear power.

Yeah.....and we had Doofus G W Bush in between for 8 years......remember?

Why do you people trust Democrats repeatedly....even though they're proven liars???

The only liars are the Republicans.......and there are so many gullible people like you, who even though given the facts, continue to believe the lie. I think you just want to believe it so bad, you don't care if your own mind tells you it can't be....

What does an agreement Clinton made with N. Korea have to do with Bush?
And aren't you practically admitting that agreements are only as good as the word of the parties involved.
And this stupid argument that Fox News isn't real news is bullshit. That's a byproduct of brainwashing.......not objective thinking.

 

[mudwhistle]

Here s the full text of the Iran nuclear deal - Vox

78. If the absence of undeclared nuclear materials and activities or activities inconsistent with the JCPOA cannot be verified after the implementation of the alternative arrangements agreed by Iran and the IAEA, or if the two sides are unable to reach satisfactory arrangements to verify the absence of undeclared nuclear materials and activities or activities inconsistent with the JCPOA at the specified locations within 14 days of the IAEA’s original request for access, Iran, in consultation with the members of the Joint Commission, would resolve the IAEA’s concerns through necessary means agreed between Iran and the IAEA. In the absence of an agreement, the members of the Joint Commission, by consensus or by a vote of 5 or more of its 8 members, would advise on the necessary means to resolve the IAEA's concerns. The process of consultation with, and any action by, the members of the Joint Commission would not exceed 7 days, and Iran would implement the necessary means within 3 additional days.

14 days gives them plenty of time to move their nuke materials onto hiding.
Real sweet deal for Iran.

Those materials can be located from space. They send out radiation that is identifiable. You live in a fantasy world.

It is a fantasy to assume that this isn't going to be a constant problem. Eventually Iran will be using the media to convince the world that the United States is being evil for trying to keep them from having their nukes. Eventually they'll get their nukes with the blessing of the United Nations.....and then Israel will be forced to attack them, Saudi Arabia will have to get their own nukes......so-on and so-forth.

You liberals all assume that everyone will be good and do what they promised. Obama doesn't even know what his own administration is doing. How is he going to make sure that Iran does what they're supposed to?

You fucking idiots are so damned stupid.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

And BTW -
THIS IS AN ARMS DEAL NOT A NUCLEAR DEAL

Russia Capitalizing on Iran Deal - NYTIMES

China s Already Preparing for a Post-Sanctions Iran-The Diplomat

It is so awesome that we could reach a deal where China and Russia can sell arms and Uranium to Iran!!! - YAY!!!! GO OBAMA!!!!

 

[Statistikhengst]

Here s the full text of the Iran nuclear deal - Vox

78. If the absence of undeclared nuclear materials and activities or activities inconsistent with the JCPOA cannot be verified after the implementation of the alternative arrangements agreed by Iran and the IAEA, or if the two sides are unable to reach satisfactory arrangements to verify the absence of undeclared nuclear materials and activities or activities inconsistent with the JCPOA at the specified locations within 14 days of the IAEA’s original request for access, Iran, in consultation with the members of the Joint Commission, would resolve the IAEA’s concerns through necessary means agreed between Iran and the IAEA. In the absence of an agreement, the members of the Joint Commission, by consensus or by a vote of 5 or more of its 8 members, would advise on the necessary means to resolve the IAEA's concerns. The process of consultation with, and any action by, the members of the Joint Commission would not exceed 7 days, and Iran would implement the necessary means within 3 additional days.

14 days gives them plenty of time to move their nuke materials onto hiding.
Real sweet deal for Iran.

Those materials can be located from space. They send out radiation that is identifiable. You live in a fantasy world.

It is a fantasy to assume that this isn't going to be a constant problem. Eventually Iran will be using the media to convince the world that the United States is being evil for trying to keep them from having their nukes. Eventually they'll get their nukes with the blessing of the United Nations.....and then Israel will be forced to attack them, Saudi Arabia will have to get their own nukes......so-on and so-forth.

You liberals all assume that everyone will be good and do what they promised. Obama doesn't even know what his own administration is doing. How is he going to make sure that Iran does what they're supposed to?

You fucking idiots are so damned stupid.

With or without a treaty it would be a problem. This delays any possible major problems, is therefore worth the effort.