NYT: Trump told in January 2017 that Putin ordered hacking

[Hutch Starskey]

The alt right and Trumpers have made many charges, some over the top, others outlandish, only relying on Alt Facts and Fake News.

Trump has failed miserably vis a vis Russia and Putin.

heh - and the alt-left isn't pushing RUSSIA w/o a whole lot of proof at all.

no.

...no proof that Russia interfered and conducted illegal activities in United States? Seriously? did you just say that?

their biggest crime is trolling. if that is illegal this board dies tomorrow.

i have no idea what russia has or has not done. i am not going to listen to a terminally hating left crowd that demonizes trump even breathing so don't even go there with me.

list the actual crimes russia has done that we can prove. not that you think they did or some asswhipe with a blog says he thinks they did - actual evidence.

go ahead. i'll wait.

Read the indictment, fool.

so - you can't. all you *can* do is sit around and insult people.

got it.

I said the indictment, fool. Why do you ignore that?

 

[AntonToo]

The alt right and Trumpers have made many charges, some over the top, others outlandish, only relying on Alt Facts and Fake News.

Trump has failed miserably vis a vis Russia and Putin.

heh - and the alt-left isn't pushing RUSSIA w/o a whole lot of proof at all.

no.

...no proof that Russia interfered and conducted illegal activities in United States? Seriously? did you just say that?

their biggest crime is trolling. if that is illegal this board dies tomorrow.

...trolling is not a crime dumbass, stop opening your silly mouth and read the indictments.

 

[Lewdog]

The alt right and Trumpers have made many charges, some over the top, others outlandish, only relying on Alt Facts and Fake News.

Trump has failed miserably vis a vis Russia and Putin.

heh - and the alt-left isn't pushing RUSSIA w/o a whole lot of proof at all.

no.

...no proof that Russia interfered and conducted illegal activities in United States? Seriously? did you just say that?

their biggest crime is trolling. if that is illegal this board dies tomorrow.

...no it isn't dummy, read indictments.

Trump supporters are a lot like Trump, they don't like to read... even if they ask you to provide a link.

 

[Rosy]

From the Start, Trump Has Muddied a Clear Message: Putin Interfered

WASHINGTON — Two weeks before his inauguration, Donald J. Trump was shown highly classified intelligence indicating that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia had personally ordered complex cyberattacks to sway the 2016 American election.

The evidence included texts and emails from Russian military officers and information gleaned from a top-secret source close to Mr. Putin, who had described to the C.I.A. how the Kremlin decided to execute its campaign of hacking and disinformation.

Mr. Trump sounded grudgingly convinced, according to several people who attended the intelligence briefing. But ever since, Mr. Trump has tried to cloud the very clear findings that he received on Jan. 6, 2017, which his own intelligence leaders have unanimously endorsed.

The shifting narrative underscores the degree to which Mr. Trump regularly picks and chooses intelligence to suit his political purposes. That has never been more clear than this week.

More: From the Start, Trump Has Muddied a Clear Message: Putin Interfered

This is a big deal that we'll be hearing a lot about tomorrow. What do you think?

lol Obama was told in 2016 that Russia was hacking the USA and he ordered the nsa to let them hack....

Treason, as Obama helped in the hacking

...dummy, treason is when you conspire with foreign power against UNITED STATES. Obama ordering nsa to counter-attack Russia is ANYTHING BUT THAT.

As usual your brain is wired backwards as we know. When obooba was told that Russia was hacking the USA, obooba ordered the nsa not to respond and in such obooba allowed the attack to continue, because he felt that it would help billary.

So obooba is a traitor, just like you for voting for hate

 

[AntonToo]

From the Start, Trump Has Muddied a Clear Message: Putin Interfered

WASHINGTON — Two weeks before his inauguration, Donald J. Trump was shown highly classified intelligence indicating that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia had personally ordered complex cyberattacks to sway the 2016 American election.

The evidence included texts and emails from Russian military officers and information gleaned from a top-secret source close to Mr. Putin, who had described to the C.I.A. how the Kremlin decided to execute its campaign of hacking and disinformation.

Mr. Trump sounded grudgingly convinced, according to several people who attended the intelligence briefing. But ever since, Mr. Trump has tried to cloud the very clear findings that he received on Jan. 6, 2017, which his own intelligence leaders have unanimously endorsed.

The shifting narrative underscores the degree to which Mr. Trump regularly picks and chooses intelligence to suit his political purposes. That has never been more clear than this week.

More: From the Start, Trump Has Muddied a Clear Message: Putin Interfered

This is a big deal that we'll be hearing a lot about tomorrow. What do you think?

lol Obama was told in 2016 that Russia was hacking the USA and he ordered the nsa to let them hack....

Treason, as Obama helped in the hacking

...dummy, treason is when you conspire with foreign power against UNITED STATES. Obama ordering nsa to counter-attack Russia is ANYTHING BUT THAT.

As usual your brain is wired backwards as we know. When obooba was told that Russia was hacking the USA, obooba ordered the nsa not to respond and in such obooba allowed the attack to continue, because he felt that it would help billary.

So obooba is a traitor, just like you for voting for hate

I misread your original post. You actual post is plain bullshit.

President Obama, angered by Russian hacking during the 2016 elections, authorized a covert cyber operation to deploy "implants" in Russian networks that could be triggered remotely in retaliation to any future cyber aggression by Moscow, The Washington Postreported Friday.

Obama’s secret struggle to punish Russia for Putin’s election assault

 

[flacaltenn]

The only people that are dividing our country are the ones that believe Putin and Trump over our own country. Congrats on that Comrade.

Oh HELL no. The whole AMERICAN involvement in campaign dicking was 1000 times worse than anything Russia or Putin did. From the fake Dossier, to having instigators inserted into the Repub campaign, to the yelling and screaming in CONGRESS over the corruption at the top level of FBI. Make no mistake. ALL the folks involved in those things and those partisan Battle Bots supporting them --- are HEROES of mother Russia. And Putin THANKS YOU for your service.

What has been proven to be fake in the dossier? Provide "credible" proof.

It's not what's proven fake. That's not how science or law or reason works. It's that ONLY the facts about Page working in Russia have been verified. And the credibility of any it is busted because all of the things that CANNOT be verified. Even Chris Steele when taken to court in England admitted this.

It was DEVIOUSLY marketed by Clapper in an "official US document" which wasn't actually an Intel Doc at all. And sold to press by C. Steele doing his circular reporting where he was basically quoted as a "source" vouching for his OWN WORK.

P.O.S. Slime product. Brought to you by the RUSSIANS and the Pro slimers at Fusion GPS. THAT's what they get paid for. To destroy people..

 

[jc456]

he is brain dead

You saying you AREN'T braindead?

Because here you are, braindead as could be, accusing Obama of conspiring with Russia against United States.

he did.

 

[AntonToo]

The only people that are dividing our country are the ones that believe Putin and Trump over our own country. Congrats on that Comrade.

Oh HELL no. The whole AMERICAN involvement in campaign dicking was 1000 times worse than anything Russia or Putin did. From the fake Dossier, to having instigators inserted into the Repub campaign, to the yelling and screaming in CONGRESS over the corruption at the top level of FBI. Make no mistake. ALL the folks involved in those things and those partisan Battle Bots supporting them --- are HEROES of mother Russia. And Putin THANKS YOU for your service.

What has been proven to be fake in the dossier? Provide "credible" proof.

It's not what's proven fake. That's not how science or law or reason works. It's that ONLY the facts about Page working in Russia have been verified. And the credibility of any it is busted because all of the things that CANNOT be verified. Even Chris Steele when taken to court in England admitted this.

It was DEVIOUSLY marketed by Clapper in an "official US document" which wasn't actually an Intel Doc at all. And sold to press by C. Steele doing his circular reporting where he was basically quoted as a "source" vouching for his OWN WORK.

P.O.S. Slime product. Brought to you by the RUSSIANS and the Pro slimers at Fusion GPS. THAT's what they get paid for. To destroy people..

Dossier has been proven correct in many assertion, primary one is that Russia was conducting operations to help Trump campaign.

And brought to you by Russians? Russians like Putin who admited his government wanted Trump to win????

 

[JakeStarkey]

The Russians meddled in the elections.

Obama was told by Ryan and McConnell if he publicly announced the Russians were meddling on the side of Trump, the GOP would blow a gasket.

Putin said he wanted Trump to win.

Russia gave massive aid to Trump and none to Clinton: there is no actual record of any help.

 

[Rosy]

The Russians meddled in the elections.

Obama was told by Ryan and McConnell if he publicly announced the Russians were meddling on the side of Trump, the GOP would blow a gasket.

Putin said he wanted Trump to win.

Russia gave massive aid to Trump and none to Clinton: there is no actual record of any help.

Putin gave Hillary 150 mill and there are records

 

[JakeStarkey]

The Russians meddled in the elections.

Obama was told by Ryan and McConnell if he publicly announced the Russians were meddling on the side of Trump, the GOP would blow a gasket.

Putin said he wanted Trump to win.

Russia gave massive aid to Trump and none to Clinton: there is no actual record of any help.

Putin gave Hillary 150 mill and there are records

No, he did not, and no there are not.

 

[AntonToo]

The Russians meddled in the elections.

Obama was told by Ryan and McConnell if he publicly announced the Russians were meddling on the side of Trump, the GOP would blow a gasket.

Putin said he wanted Trump to win.

Russia gave massive aid to Trump and none to Clinton: there is no actual record of any help.

Putin gave Hillary 150 mill and there are records

No there aren't moron, because you just made that bullshit up.

 

[flacaltenn]

The only people that are dividing our country are the ones that believe Putin and Trump over our own country. Congrats on that Comrade.

Oh HELL no. The whole AMERICAN involvement in campaign dicking was 1000 times worse than anything Russia or Putin did. From the fake Dossier, to having instigators inserted into the Repub campaign, to the yelling and screaming in CONGRESS over the corruption at the top level of FBI. Make no mistake. ALL the folks involved in those things and those partisan Battle Bots supporting them --- are HEROES of mother Russia. And Putin THANKS YOU for your service.

Just look at the media HIRING UP all those bad actors as "commentators". It's like a CABAL reunion party between all them on CNN/MSNBC everyday, 24 hours a day.


WE DID THIS TO OURSELVES...

The fake dossier? NOTHING in the dossier has been disproven yet. Nothing... and from the sounds of things, the U.S. has a double agent working in the Kremlin. That's some serious shit. They just said they may have 5 guys working as spies that are this high up in another government.

Give that up Dog. The Trump aide accused of meeting Russians in Eastern Europe simply marched in with his passport and day planner and PROVED it was false.

You cannot even FATHOM "golden showers" or the IDIOCY of claiming the Russians offered Carter Page 15% of GasProm in exchange for his knowledge on trading energy and challenging the WTO. That's equivalent to about $30BILLION fucking dollars. Page was on interviews EVERYWHERE laughing at the idiocy of that assertion. It's LUDICROUS that ANY consultant would be worth $30Bill.. It's trash. It's fiction. Its the product of Steele yucking it up with his former adversaries over vodka shots

But MORE IMPORTANTLY -- It's the LARGEST Russian Counter Intel Operations SCORE in modern history. Look at how much disruption those professional Russian propagandists that Steele "interviewed" created in the USA. By lying to Steele about hookers and Page and with the help of the FBI and CIA/NSC and YOU and your Battle Bot Blue Team -- they torn us apart like Putin could never DREAM of doing on his own.

Putin THANKS you for your "confidence" in that POS.. Those agents feeding shit to Steele are gonna have statues in Red Square and Plaques at GRU HQs.

 

[Cosmos]

Pretty clear now that the desired result of the Russian meddling was to plant doubt about the election result and make life difficult for the new President. Putin accomplished that pretty well.

Collusion with Trump was not required to accomplish that mission. Thus, no evidence of collusion exists. No doubt Trump could have handled this better. Instead of denying there was meddling, obviously out of fear it made him look illegitimate, he should have taken the Russians to account head-on and blamed the Obama regime for their incompetence in preventing it.

So now we have Putin using the leftist-leaning US media as his own personal propaganda spreading tool and the US Government in chaos with top officials or former officials calling each other traitors. Pretty effective op there, Putin. Did somebody say this guy used to be KGB?

 

[flacaltenn]

The only people that are dividing our country are the ones that believe Putin and Trump over our own country. Congrats on that Comrade.

Oh HELL no. The whole AMERICAN involvement in campaign dicking was 1000 times worse than anything Russia or Putin did. From the fake Dossier, to having instigators inserted into the Repub campaign, to the yelling and screaming in CONGRESS over the corruption at the top level of FBI. Make no mistake. ALL the folks involved in those things and those partisan Battle Bots supporting them --- are HEROES of mother Russia. And Putin THANKS YOU for your service.

What has been proven to be fake in the dossier? Provide "credible" proof.

It's not what's proven fake. That's not how science or law or reason works. It's that ONLY the facts about Page working in Russia have been verified. And the credibility of any it is busted because all of the things that CANNOT be verified. Even Chris Steele when taken to court in England admitted this.

It was DEVIOUSLY marketed by Clapper in an "official US document" which wasn't actually an Intel Doc at all. And sold to press by C. Steele doing his circular reporting where he was basically quoted as a "source" vouching for his OWN WORK.

P.O.S. Slime product. Brought to you by the RUSSIANS and the Pro slimers at Fusion GPS. THAT's what they get paid for. To destroy people..

Dossier has been proven correct in many assertion, primary one is that Russia was conducting operations to help Trump campaign.

And brought to you by Russians? Russians like Putin who admited his government wanted Trump to win????

You're conflating the "Intel Report" wrapper that Clapper slapped AROUND the dossier -- with the dossier itself that ONLY appeared as "an appendix". The wrapping stuff was garden variety crap that any cleared person was TOLD about Russian spying and intel ops since at LEAST the 90s. Very general. VERY UNCLASSIFIED and NOT "an Intel Report". I read the same shit in the 90s.

 

[AntonToo]

Pretty clear now that the desired result of the Russian meddling was to plant doubt about the election result and make life difficult for the new President. Putin accomplished that pretty well.

Collusion with Trump was not required to accomplish that mission. Thus, no evidence of collusion exists.

Cool story bro. Now for some reality:

Senate panel agrees with intelligence finding that Russia interfered in election, backed Trump

Vladimir Putin admits he did want Donald Trump to win the 2016 election over Hillary Clinton


Putin very specifically pulled for Trump.

 

[AntonToo]

The only people that are dividing our country are the ones that believe Putin and Trump over our own country. Congrats on that Comrade.

Oh HELL no. The whole AMERICAN involvement in campaign dicking was 1000 times worse than anything Russia or Putin did. From the fake Dossier, to having instigators inserted into the Repub campaign, to the yelling and screaming in CONGRESS over the corruption at the top level of FBI. Make no mistake. ALL the folks involved in those things and those partisan Battle Bots supporting them --- are HEROES of mother Russia. And Putin THANKS YOU for your service.

What has been proven to be fake in the dossier? Provide "credible" proof.

It's not what's proven fake. That's not how science or law or reason works. It's that ONLY the facts about Page working in Russia have been verified. And the credibility of any it is busted because all of the things that CANNOT be verified. Even Chris Steele when taken to court in England admitted this.

It was DEVIOUSLY marketed by Clapper in an "official US document" which wasn't actually an Intel Doc at all. And sold to press by C. Steele doing his circular reporting where he was basically quoted as a "source" vouching for his OWN WORK.

P.O.S. Slime product. Brought to you by the RUSSIANS and the Pro slimers at Fusion GPS. THAT's what they get paid for. To destroy people..

Dossier has been proven correct in many assertion, primary one is that Russia was conducting operations to help Trump campaign.

And brought to you by Russians? Russians like Putin who admited his government wanted Trump to win????

You're conflating the "Intel Report" wrapper that Clapper slapped AROUND the dossier -- with the dossier itself that ONLY appeared as "an appendix". The wrapping stuff was garden variety crap that any cleared person was TOLD about Russian spying and intel ops since at LEAST the 90s. Very general. VERY UNCLASSIFIED and NOT "an Intel Report". I read the same shit in the 90s.

Totally wrong - Putin's interference in our election to get Trump in office is the CENTRAL THESIS of the dossier.

 

[Cosmos]

Pretty clear now that the desired result of the Russian meddling was to plant doubt about the election result and make life difficult for the new President. Putin accomplished that pretty well.

Collusion with Trump was not required to accomplish that mission. Thus, no evidence of collusion exists.

Cool story bro. Now for some reality:

Senate panel agrees with intelligence finding that Russia interfered in election, backed Trump

Vladimir Putin admits he did want Donald Trump to win the 2016 election over Hillary Clinton

That does not in any way effect what I've said. It just says that Putin's level of success was very high. Sometimes you punt. Sometimes you walk away with a field goal. And sometimes you score the touchdown. Putin scored the touchdown.

Does that clear it up for ya?

 

[AntonToo]

Pretty clear now that the desired result of the Russian meddling was to plant doubt about the election result and make life difficult for the new President. Putin accomplished that pretty well.

Collusion with Trump was not required to accomplish that mission. Thus, no evidence of collusion exists.

Cool story bro. Now for some reality:

Senate panel agrees with intelligence finding that Russia interfered in election, backed Trump

Vladimir Putin admits he did want Donald Trump to win the 2016 election over Hillary Clinton

That does not in any way effect what I've said. It just says that Putin's level of success was very high.

Yes it does effect. You sad Putin's primary goal was to plant doubt about election outcome.

That is WRONG, Putin's goal was for Trump to get into office instead of Hillary.

 

[miketx]

Did the CIA share the information with Barry Hussein Sotoro at the time? Everything happened on Barry's watch. Why didn't Barry stop it?

Yeah, it's all "Barry's" fault.