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Obama could have arranged any deal he wanted if he wanted it......they owed us everything, and had no say over the deal...they were holding out for perks and he just left.
The big lie of the Iraq situation is now being told by the democrats...
If it didn't last then it wasn't successful. Did that really need to be explained?You lie like a rug!
Bush lost the Iraq war & hid the true cost from the American people. Iran supplied Iraq with roadside bombs, soldiers & training. They were killing the hell out of US & coalition forces. Our citizens & coalition partners had it with Abu-Ghraib & Bush-Cheney's lies & told them to kiss their ass.
Bush sent Condi Rice hat in hand to Iran negotiations. Bush offered Iran to keep running centrifuges to make nuclear weapons if they would please stop killing US in Iraq & keep the Shia from fighting US so we could exit. Then he sent $20 Billion Cash to Iraq & surged our troops there. We were getting killed big-time until we paid off the Sunni fighters to stop fighting US.
After giving our enemies everything they wanted to stop fighting US, Bush claimed the surge worked & started our exit from Iraq. After Abu-Ghraib the Iraqi Parilement & people would not allow US forces to stay in Iraq. Maliki would not give US soldiers immunity to Iraqi prosecution.
Obama had to pull US troops out before Iraq filled up their prison with them. Then Obama had to fix the Iran nuclear mess Bush created. Obama is getting Iran to hand over their 10 bomb stockpile of nuclear materials Bush allowed to to amass & halt production of the nuclear materials & bombs.
Gee, you make it sound like Obozo lied to us...
Flashback Obama We re Leaving Behind A Sovereign Stable And Self-Reliant Iraq - YouTube
All politicians lie. You are the one who chose to continue to believe Bush-Cheney. Bush's high school friend General Tommy Franks gave the stand down order to our US forces who had Osama Bin Laden cornered in Tora Bora. He allowed Bin Laden to flee & never chased him again. Pakistan arrested Bin Laden & allowed Obama to execute him. They respected Obama, not Bush who lied about everything.
Are you this stupid.....yes. obama was living free in pakistan, and obama didn't want to kill him, had to be told to do it by Leon Panetta........
Osama Bin Laden lived because Bush had friend General Tommy Franks give the stand-down order so he could escape. Obama killed Osama Bin Laden !!!
Shiites and Sunnis have been at war for over a thousand years. If Republicans weren't so ignorant and didn't believe education is for snobs, they would have known. They think the "surge" could have worked. As if pointing a hundred thousand guns at someone, making them stop fighting for a few minutes is sustainable and will work over the lost term You have to be completely tarded to believe something so ignorant.
The surge was highly successful. Don't you research before commenting and looking really stupid?
Typical among the GOP base. No wonder they like Trump.Obama could have arranged any deal he wanted if he wanted it......they owed us everything, and had no say over the deal...they were holding out for perks and he just left.
The big lie of the Iraq situation is now being told by the democrats...
Hey smack, where did you get that trash...pull it out of you back pocket?! In the fall of 2011 when the second SOFA talks began, Iraq had been a sovereign Nation for over six years. We ceased being occupiers of Iraq in 2004. A new SOFA was required because the US was still in Iraq under the 2008 SOFA which was set to expire at midnight Dec 31, 2011. al-Maliki and company refused to grant the customary prosecutorial immunity to US Forces as was included in the Bush SOFA. If you are for US forces to be subject to Sharia, raise your hands!
You have no freaking idea what you are talking about, and are simply parroting neoconservative talking points issued from PNAC Central Command!
If it didn't last then it wasn't successful. Did that really need to be explained?Gee, you make it sound like Obozo lied to us...
Flashback Obama We re Leaving Behind A Sovereign Stable And Self-Reliant Iraq - YouTube
All politicians lie. You are the one who chose to continue to believe Bush-Cheney. Bush's high school friend General Tommy Franks gave the stand down order to our US forces who had Osama Bin Laden cornered in Tora Bora. He allowed Bin Laden to flee & never chased him again. Pakistan arrested Bin Laden & allowed Obama to execute him. They respected Obama, not Bush who lied about everything.
Are you this stupid.....yes. obama was living free in pakistan, and obama didn't want to kill him, had to be told to do it by Leon Panetta........
Osama Bin Laden lived because Bush had friend General Tommy Franks give the stand-down order so he could escape. Obama killed Osama Bin Laden !!!
Shiites and Sunnis have been at war for over a thousand years. If Republicans weren't so ignorant and didn't believe education is for snobs, they would have known. They think the "surge" could have worked. As if pointing a hundred thousand guns at someone, making them stop fighting for a few minutes is sustainable and will work over the lost term You have to be completely tarded to believe something so ignorant.
The surge was highly successful. Don't you research before commenting and looking really stupid?
They were never OURS to lose. Duh!Here...from the New York times....the weekly bible study of the left.....how obama lost Afghanistan as well...
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/06/world/asia/06reconstruct.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
We had Iraq won...then the disaster you assholes elected lost it. Just another failure in a long list of failures for the inept jackass
We had Iraq won...then the disaster you assholes elected lost it. Just another failure in a long list of failures for the inept jackass
You're free to go over there & fight to win Iraq back. Don't be afraid, there are many Americans over there trying it. Just stop forcing US to go broke.
The United States federal government has spent or obligated 4.4 trillion dollars on the wars in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iraq. This figure includes: direct Congressional war appropriations; war-related increases to the Pentagon base budget; veterans care and disability; increases in the homeland security budget; interest payments on direct war borrowing; foreign assistance spending; and estimated future obligations for veterans’ care.
This total omits many other expenses, such as the macroeconomic costs to the US economy; the opportunity costs of not investing war dollars in alternative sectors; future interest on war borrowing; and local government and private war costs.
The current wars have been paid for almost entirely by borrowing. This borrowing has raised the US budget deficit, increased the national debt, and had other macroeconomic effects, such as raising consumer interest rates. Unless the US immediately repays the money borrowed for war, there will also be future interest payments. We estimate that interest payments could total over $7 trillion by 2053.
Spending on the wars has involved opportunity costs for the US economy. Although military spending does produce jobs, spending in other areas such as health care could produce more jobs. Additionally, while investment in military infrastructure grew, investment in other, nonmilitary, public infrastructure such as roads and schools did not grow at the same rate.
Finally, federal war costs exclude billions of dollars of state, municipal, and private war costs across the country – dollars spent on services for returned veterans and their families, in addition to local homeland security efforts.
We had Iraq won...then the disaster you assholes elected lost it. Just another failure in a long list of failures for the inept jackass
You're free to go over there & fight to win Iraq back. Don't be afraid, there are many Americans over there trying it. Just stop forcing US to go broke.
The United States federal government has spent or obligated 4.4 trillion dollars on the wars in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iraq. This figure includes: direct Congressional war appropriations; war-related increases to the Pentagon base budget; veterans care and disability; increases in the homeland security budget; interest payments on direct war borrowing; foreign assistance spending; and estimated future obligations for veterans’ care.
This total omits many other expenses, such as the macroeconomic costs to the US economy; the opportunity costs of not investing war dollars in alternative sectors; future interest on war borrowing; and local government and private war costs.
The current wars have been paid for almost entirely by borrowing. This borrowing has raised the US budget deficit, increased the national debt, and had other macroeconomic effects, such as raising consumer interest rates. Unless the US immediately repays the money borrowed for war, there will also be future interest payments. We estimate that interest payments could total over $7 trillion by 2053.
Spending on the wars has involved opportunity costs for the US economy. Although military spending does produce jobs, spending in other areas such as health care could produce more jobs. Additionally, while investment in military infrastructure grew, investment in other, nonmilitary, public infrastructure such as roads and schools did not grow at the same rate.
Finally, federal war costs exclude billions of dollars of state, municipal, and private war costs across the country – dollars spent on services for returned veterans and their families, in addition to local homeland security efforts.
Here is Mr Big Pork Barrel Spender himself lined up at the trough.
Yeah, my brother-in-law pulled multiple tours in the sandbox, and absolutely HATES Obozo and the Libs. Of course, I will state (before the Lib cowards jump in) that he earned the right to express his opinion.We had Iraq won...then the disaster you assholes elected lost it. Just another failure in a long list of failures for the inept jackass
You're free to go over there & fight to win Iraq back. Don't be afraid, there are many Americans over there trying it. Just stop forcing US to go broke.
The United States federal government has spent or obligated 4.4 trillion dollars on the wars in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iraq. This figure includes: direct Congressional war appropriations; war-related increases to the Pentagon base budget; veterans care and disability; increases in the homeland security budget; interest payments on direct war borrowing; foreign assistance spending; and estimated future obligations for veterans’ care.
This total omits many other expenses, such as the macroeconomic costs to the US economy; the opportunity costs of not investing war dollars in alternative sectors; future interest on war borrowing; and local government and private war costs.
The current wars have been paid for almost entirely by borrowing. This borrowing has raised the US budget deficit, increased the national debt, and had other macroeconomic effects, such as raising consumer interest rates. Unless the US immediately repays the money borrowed for war, there will also be future interest payments. We estimate that interest payments could total over $7 trillion by 2053.
Spending on the wars has involved opportunity costs for the US economy. Although military spending does produce jobs, spending in other areas such as health care could produce more jobs. Additionally, while investment in military infrastructure grew, investment in other, nonmilitary, public infrastructure such as roads and schools did not grow at the same rate.
Finally, federal war costs exclude billions of dollars of state, municipal, and private war costs across the country – dollars spent on services for returned veterans and their families, in addition to local homeland security efforts.
Here is Mr Big Pork Barrel Spender himself lined up at the trough.
My best friend fell in Iraq...while you and your ilk bawled about it. Save it, freak
Yeah, my brother-in-law pulled multiple tours in the sandbox, and absolutely HATES Obozo and the Libs. Of course, I will state (before the Lib cowards jump in) that he earned the right to express his opinion.We had Iraq won...then the disaster you assholes elected lost it. Just another failure in a long list of failures for the inept jackass
You're free to go over there & fight to win Iraq back. Don't be afraid, there are many Americans over there trying it. Just stop forcing US to go broke.
The United States federal government has spent or obligated 4.4 trillion dollars on the wars in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iraq. This figure includes: direct Congressional war appropriations; war-related increases to the Pentagon base budget; veterans care and disability; increases in the homeland security budget; interest payments on direct war borrowing; foreign assistance spending; and estimated future obligations for veterans’ care.
This total omits many other expenses, such as the macroeconomic costs to the US economy; the opportunity costs of not investing war dollars in alternative sectors; future interest on war borrowing; and local government and private war costs.
The current wars have been paid for almost entirely by borrowing. This borrowing has raised the US budget deficit, increased the national debt, and had other macroeconomic effects, such as raising consumer interest rates. Unless the US immediately repays the money borrowed for war, there will also be future interest payments. We estimate that interest payments could total over $7 trillion by 2053.
Spending on the wars has involved opportunity costs for the US economy. Although military spending does produce jobs, spending in other areas such as health care could produce more jobs. Additionally, while investment in military infrastructure grew, investment in other, nonmilitary, public infrastructure such as roads and schools did not grow at the same rate.
Finally, federal war costs exclude billions of dollars of state, municipal, and private war costs across the country – dollars spent on services for returned veterans and their families, in addition to local homeland security efforts.
Here is Mr Big Pork Barrel Spender himself lined up at the trough.
My best friend fell in Iraq...while you and your ilk bawled about it. Save it, freak
You right wing turds hate democracy...here is what democracy looks like in Iraq...the people spoke...
September 27, 2006 The Iraqi Public on US Presence and the Future of Iraq
Key findings are:
VIEWS OF THE US PRESENCE
1. Views of US-led Forces in Iraq
Seven in ten Iraqis want US-led forces to commit to withdraw within a year. An overwhelming majority believes that the US military presence in Iraq is provoking more conflict than it is preventing. More broadly, most feel the US is having a predominantly negative influence in Iraq and have little or no confidence in the US military. If the US made a commitment to withdraw, a majority believes that this would strengthen the Iraqi government. Majorities believe that the withdrawal of US troops would lead to a reduction in the amount of inter-ethnic violence and improvement in the day-to-day security of Iraqis. A modest majority, including a large majority of Shia, now believes that in the near future Iraqi security forces will be strong enough to deal with their security challenges without foreign forces. There is little interest in replacing US-led forces with an international peacekeeping force.
2. Attacks on US-led Forces
Support for attacks on US-led forces has grown to a majority position—now six in ten. Support appears to be related to widespread perception, held by all ethnic groups, that the US government plans to have permanent military bases in Iraq and would not withdraw its forces from Iraq even if the Iraqi government asked it to. If the US were to commit to withdraw, more than half of those who approve of attacks on US troops say that their support for attacks would diminish.
3. Views of Al Qaeda
Growing approval for attacks on US-led forces has not been accompanied by any significant support for al Qaeda. Al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden are rejected by overwhelming majorities of Shias and Kurds and large majorities of Sunnis.
4. Non-military Forms of US Involvement
Majorities still approve of the US training Iraqi security forces and helping with community development, though most of these feel the US is doing a poor job. However, a modest majority now disapproves of the US being involved in mediating between ethnic groups. Were the US to agree to a timetable for the withdrawal of its forces Iraqis say their support for nonmilitary forms of US involvement in Iraq would increase.
Obama wanted to keep 10,000 troops in Iraq
What killed the deal
The agreement failed over a demand that American troops be given immunity from prosecution by Iraqis, a very touchy political issue within the Iraqi Parliament. Some experts said Iraqi leaders may not have been willing to take great political risk with their citizens in exchange for a relatively small American force.
But no immunity meant no sizable residual troop presence.
"When the Americans asked for immunity, the Iraqi side answered that it was not possible," al-Maliki said in an October 2011 news conference. "The discussions over the number of trainers and the place of training stopped. Now that the issue of immunity was decided and that no immunity to be given, the withdrawal has started."
Three years later, as the Islamic State advanced in the country and shocked the world, a CNN reporter asked Obama if he regretted the decision not to leave a residual force in Iraq. Obama said, "Keep in mind, that wasn't a decision made by me. That was a decision made by the Iraqi government."
The political overtones have ratcheted up with international headlines about Islamic State, which also is called ISIS. Conservatives blame Obama for pulling out too soon, for leaving Iraq vulnerable, and liberals argue the pullout deadline was prescribed by Bush.
"You pick your poison there," said Lance Janda, chairman of Cameron University’s Department of History and Government. "It’s fair to say no one saw this ISIS stuff coming."
Are you people this freaking stupid.....yes you are. The deal was accepted because obama wanted out, regardless of the cost or what would happen if we just picked up and left...and we see what happened, isis grew and is now using mustard gas.
Obama could have arranged any deal he wanted if he wanted it......they owed us everything, and had no say over the deal...they were holding out for perks and he just left.
The big lie of the Iraq situation is now being told by the democrats....if the democrats have one major super power it is the ability to create a big lie and get the country to believe it...of course being in charge of education, entertainment and the press helps a lot....but the internet won't let you completely control the lie.
So, how's that working out for them?
Yeah, my brother-in-law pulled multiple tours in the sandbox, and absolutely HATES Obozo and the Libs. Of course, I will state (before the Lib cowards jump in) that he earned the right to express his opinion.
Yeah, my brother-in-law pulled multiple tours in the sandbox, and absolutely HATES Obozo and the Libs. Of course, I will state (before the Lib cowards jump in) that he earned the right to express his opinion.
Since you imply military service is a requisite for certain rights of expression, how much time have you spent in uniform and deployed ANYWHERE to earn the right to express your opinion about Obama? Are folks who have never served in uniform allowed to have an opinion and the right of expression? How about those who served in WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Kosovo or just Stateside? Do they have different rights than you brother-in-law?
Yeah, my brother-in-law pulled multiple tours in the sandbox, and absolutely HATES Obozo and the Libs. Of course, I will state (before the Lib cowards jump in) that he earned the right to express his opinion.
Since you imply military service is a requisite for certain rights of expression, how much time have you spent in uniform and deployed ANYWHERE to earn the right to express your opinion about Obama? Are folks who have never served in uniform allowed to have an opinion and the right of expression? How about those who served in WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Kosovo or just Stateside? Do they have different rights than you brother-in-law?
No combat deployment ( no wars when I was in), but basic at Dix, AIT at Huachuca (96R), secondary 11H, seven years in based primarily out of Knox and Campbell. And you?
