Obama greeted by Confederate flags in Oklahoma

[bodecea]

Except that that side that sees it as a harmless symbol of regional pride, just wants to be left alone.

It is the other side that is causing the trouble, by attacking those that aren't bothering anyone.

Kudos for referencing the Dukes of Hazzard, btw.

Yeah. Not buying that either. Both sides are frothing at the mouth. Thanks for the kudos though. I appreciate it.

I'm only pissed off because they keep insulting me.

You are very easily insulted. Toughen up.

Standard lib tactic.

Attack someone, then accuse them of being defensive.

Combined with a little bit of ridicule.

Try to be less of a jerk.

Do you think you are being clever?

Please....tell me how I have insulted you.

I'm not getting that either. Correll is clutching pearls and accusing us of insulting him....

 

[Correll]

If he stated or implied that the flag is a symbol of hatred, he is insulting the people that fly it.

Ipso facto

Used correctly. For your education.

"If" is a big word....don't you think? So is the word "implied". Neither of them are factual, but very subjective.

Now....How did the President insult people?

HE said that the flag should be in a museum.

What do you think that implies about those that are flying the flag?

It should be. What's hateful about that?

REally?

I posted two sentences. You didn't consider the possibility that the second sentence might be connected to the first?

Try answering the second sentence and see if it is enlightening to the meaning of the first.

What do you think that implies about those that are flying the flag?

If you were to learn that black people felt fear and hate when seeing that flag, would it give you a moment of pause?

I recall a long time ago.

A good friend of mine, a young woman was complaining about another young woman, a very hot rival of hers at a local theater company they both were part of.

The rival, a very hot blond was from the South and sometimes wore a very tight pair of pants with a confederate flag on the one pocket.

My friend opined that this girl was going to get her ass kicked by local blacks.

I didn't say anything at the time. She was venting.

But I remember thinking.

This chick wears a pair of pants, and hypothetically is beaten, and she is the problem?

Wouldn't a reasonable person consider the violent thugs in question the problem?

Considering the black on white crime vs the white on black crime, if blacks claimed to be afraid, I would tell them to "toughen up".

 

[LoneLaugher]

I'm not sure what your game is. Care to share?

No game, just a simple statement of fact. Most people could not care less. The flag means absolutely nothing to them. It certainly means nothing to me. When I watched the Dukes of Hazard, I wasn't offended by the "symbol of racism and hate" on top of the General Lee - named after a confederate general. Neither was anyone else. All I am seeing are two sides screaming at each other at the top of their lungs over a piece of cloth. Entertaining perhaps, but seriously dumb. The only meaning it holds is what you give it.

Do any flags or symbols carry meaning for you?

Sure. But not that one. Do you think the US flag means the same thing to me, an Afghan rebel and a Swiss farmer? How much to you thing the farmer cares about it?

Be honest, did you watch the Dukes of Hazard or did you boycott it because of its racism and hate?

I was a teenager. I was looking at Daisy Duke's ass. It was a TV show. I loved Hogans Heroes and laughed with Shultz. Hoooooogaaaaannnnn!
Absolutely irrelevant.

You just stated that the US flag means different things to different people. The exact same thing can be said about the confederate flag.....yet you arrogantly exclaim "it's just a piece of cloth". It may be to you...and that is fine. But you can certainly see that it carries meaning for others. Yes?

And.....you might give a moment of thought as to why those who are adamantly in favor of it.....appreciate your point of view. Cheers!!

So no. And I bet your parents didn't shut it down to keep you from being exposed to that vile symbol.

A piece of cloth is all it is. Go take a look at one. Just cloth. And perhaps, just a thought now, you might want to give a moment of thought as to why they are adamantly in favor of it rather than just assume that they are in favor of what you are opposed to. Consider that it might not mean to them what it means to you. And.... just for grins and giggles, the other folks might do the same.

Nah.. much more fun to be offended.

By the way....my father was a racist. A regular Italian NYC raised bigot.

 

[Correll]

I'm not sure what your game is. Care to share?

No game, just a simple statement of fact. Most people could not care less. The flag means absolutely nothing to them. It certainly means nothing to me. When I watched the Dukes of Hazard, I wasn't offended by the "symbol of racism and hate" on top of the General Lee - named after a confederate general. Neither was anyone else. All I am seeing are two sides screaming at each other at the top of their lungs over a piece of cloth. Entertaining perhaps, but seriously dumb. The only meaning it holds is what you give it.

Do any flags or symbols carry meaning for you?

Sure. But not that one. Do you think the US flag means the same thing to me, an Afghan rebel and a Swiss farmer? How much to you thing the farmer cares about it?

Be honest, did you watch the Dukes of Hazard or did you boycott it because of its racism and hate?

I was a teenager. I was looking at Daisy Duke's ass. It was a TV show. I loved Hogans Heroes and laughed with Shultz. Hoooooogaaaaannnnn!
Absolutely irrelevant.

You just stated that the US flag means different things to different people. The exact same thing can be said about the confederate flag.....yet you arrogantly exclaim "it's just a piece of cloth". It may be to you...and that is fine. But you can certainly see that it carries meaning for others. Yes?

And.....you might give a moment of thought as to why those who are adamantly in favor of it.....appreciate your point of view. Cheers!!

So no. And I bet your parents didn't shut it down to keep you from being exposed to that vile symbol.

A piece of cloth is all it is. Go take a look at one. Just cloth. And perhaps, just a thought now, you might want to give a moment of thought as to why they are adamantly in favor of it rather than just assume that they are in favor of what you are opposed to. Consider that it might not mean to them what it means to you. And.... just for grins and giggles, the other folks might do the same.

Nah.. much more fun to be offended.

They reject the idea that there can be any other viewpoint than their own.

 

[PratchettFan]

No game, just a simple statement of fact. Most people could not care less. The flag means absolutely nothing to them. It certainly means nothing to me. When I watched the Dukes of Hazard, I wasn't offended by the "symbol of racism and hate" on top of the General Lee - named after a confederate general. Neither was anyone else. All I am seeing are two sides screaming at each other at the top of their lungs over a piece of cloth. Entertaining perhaps, but seriously dumb. The only meaning it holds is what you give it.

Do any flags or symbols carry meaning for you?

Sure. But not that one. Do you think the US flag means the same thing to me, an Afghan rebel and a Swiss farmer? How much to you thing the farmer cares about it?

Be honest, did you watch the Dukes of Hazard or did you boycott it because of its racism and hate?

I was a teenager. I was looking at Daisy Duke's ass. It was a TV show. I loved Hogans Heroes and laughed with Shultz. Hoooooogaaaaannnnn!
Absolutely irrelevant.

You just stated that the US flag means different things to different people. The exact same thing can be said about the confederate flag.....yet you arrogantly exclaim "it's just a piece of cloth". It may be to you...and that is fine. But you can certainly see that it carries meaning for others. Yes?

And.....you might give a moment of thought as to why those who are adamantly in favor of it.....appreciate your point of view. Cheers!!

So no. And I bet your parents didn't shut it down to keep you from being exposed to that vile symbol.

A piece of cloth is all it is. Go take a look at one. Just cloth. And perhaps, just a thought now, you might want to give a moment of thought as to why they are adamantly in favor of it rather than just assume that they are in favor of what you are opposed to. Consider that it might not mean to them what it means to you. And.... just for grins and giggles, the other folks might do the same.

Nah.. much more fun to be offended.

When you say that it is "just a piece of cloth"...you are suggesting that it has no negative meaning to anyone. That is arrogance and ignorance all balled up together.

Question......do you think it should fly on government buildings?

I don't think I'm coming across here. I don't give a damn if it is or not. And the vast majority of the country doesn't give a damn either. They can fly a dead chicken on a government building if they want. This entire issue is massively stupid. If you want to be offended, then go ahead and be offended.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Bodey.....a question:

Are you a racist or a bigot?

 

[PratchettFan]

No game, just a simple statement of fact. Most people could not care less. The flag means absolutely nothing to them. It certainly means nothing to me. When I watched the Dukes of Hazard, I wasn't offended by the "symbol of racism and hate" on top of the General Lee - named after a confederate general. Neither was anyone else. All I am seeing are two sides screaming at each other at the top of their lungs over a piece of cloth. Entertaining perhaps, but seriously dumb. The only meaning it holds is what you give it.

Do any flags or symbols carry meaning for you?

Sure. But not that one. Do you think the US flag means the same thing to me, an Afghan rebel and a Swiss farmer? How much to you thing the farmer cares about it?

Be honest, did you watch the Dukes of Hazard or did you boycott it because of its racism and hate?

I was a teenager. I was looking at Daisy Duke's ass. It was a TV show. I loved Hogans Heroes and laughed with Shultz. Hoooooogaaaaannnnn!
Absolutely irrelevant.

You just stated that the US flag means different things to different people. The exact same thing can be said about the confederate flag.....yet you arrogantly exclaim "it's just a piece of cloth". It may be to you...and that is fine. But you can certainly see that it carries meaning for others. Yes?

And.....you might give a moment of thought as to why those who are adamantly in favor of it.....appreciate your point of view. Cheers!!

So no. And I bet your parents didn't shut it down to keep you from being exposed to that vile symbol.

A piece of cloth is all it is. Go take a look at one. Just cloth. And perhaps, just a thought now, you might want to give a moment of thought as to why they are adamantly in favor of it rather than just assume that they are in favor of what you are opposed to. Consider that it might not mean to them what it means to you. And.... just for grins and giggles, the other folks might do the same.

Nah.. much more fun to be offended.

By the way....my father was a racist. A regular Italian NYC raised bigot.

And still I'll bet that flag meant squat to him.

 

[reconmark]

This is America...those idiots are free to fly that traitorous piece of shit and ass fuck cows at the same time...

 

[Correll]

No game, just a simple statement of fact. Most people could not care less. The flag means absolutely nothing to them. It certainly means nothing to me. When I watched the Dukes of Hazard, I wasn't offended by the "symbol of racism and hate" on top of the General Lee - named after a confederate general. Neither was anyone else. All I am seeing are two sides screaming at each other at the top of their lungs over a piece of cloth. Entertaining perhaps, but seriously dumb. The only meaning it holds is what you give it.

Do any flags or symbols carry meaning for you?

Sure. But not that one. Do you think the US flag means the same thing to me, an Afghan rebel and a Swiss farmer? How much to you thing the farmer cares about it?

Be honest, did you watch the Dukes of Hazard or did you boycott it because of its racism and hate?

I was a teenager. I was looking at Daisy Duke's ass. It was a TV show. I loved Hogans Heroes and laughed with Shultz. Hoooooogaaaaannnnn!
Absolutely irrelevant.

You just stated that the US flag means different things to different people. The exact same thing can be said about the confederate flag.....yet you arrogantly exclaim "it's just a piece of cloth". It may be to you...and that is fine. But you can certainly see that it carries meaning for others. Yes?

And.....you might give a moment of thought as to why those who are adamantly in favor of it.....appreciate your point of view. Cheers!!

So no. And I bet your parents didn't shut it down to keep you from being exposed to that vile symbol.

A piece of cloth is all it is. Go take a look at one. Just cloth. And perhaps, just a thought now, you might want to give a moment of thought as to why they are adamantly in favor of it rather than just assume that they are in favor of what you are opposed to. Consider that it might not mean to them what it means to you. And.... just for grins and giggles, the other folks might do the same.

Nah.. much more fun to be offended.

By the way....my father was a racist. A regular Italian NYC raised bigot.

My father was not. WWII vet, and never had one racist thing to say in my entire life. (other than don't trust the japanese, which he gets a pass on because of years spent in the pacific)

Standard working class dem. Had a plastic bust of JFK in the living room.

 

[Correll]

Do any flags or symbols carry meaning for you?

Sure. But not that one. Do you think the US flag means the same thing to me, an Afghan rebel and a Swiss farmer? How much to you thing the farmer cares about it?

Be honest, did you watch the Dukes of Hazard or did you boycott it because of its racism and hate?

I was a teenager. I was looking at Daisy Duke's ass. It was a TV show. I loved Hogans Heroes and laughed with Shultz. Hoooooogaaaaannnnn!
Absolutely irrelevant.

You just stated that the US flag means different things to different people. The exact same thing can be said about the confederate flag.....yet you arrogantly exclaim "it's just a piece of cloth". It may be to you...and that is fine. But you can certainly see that it carries meaning for others. Yes?

And.....you might give a moment of thought as to why those who are adamantly in favor of it.....appreciate your point of view. Cheers!!

So no. And I bet your parents didn't shut it down to keep you from being exposed to that vile symbol.

A piece of cloth is all it is. Go take a look at one. Just cloth. And perhaps, just a thought now, you might want to give a moment of thought as to why they are adamantly in favor of it rather than just assume that they are in favor of what you are opposed to. Consider that it might not mean to them what it means to you. And.... just for grins and giggles, the other folks might do the same.

Nah.. much more fun to be offended.

By the way....my father was a racist. A regular Italian NYC raised bigot.

And still I'll bet that flag meant squat to him.

Good point.

Did your racist father every comment on the flag or the Gen Lee?

 

[PratchettFan]

No game, just a simple statement of fact. Most people could not care less. The flag means absolutely nothing to them. It certainly means nothing to me. When I watched the Dukes of Hazard, I wasn't offended by the "symbol of racism and hate" on top of the General Lee - named after a confederate general. Neither was anyone else. All I am seeing are two sides screaming at each other at the top of their lungs over a piece of cloth. Entertaining perhaps, but seriously dumb. The only meaning it holds is what you give it.

Do any flags or symbols carry meaning for you?

Sure. But not that one. Do you think the US flag means the same thing to me, an Afghan rebel and a Swiss farmer? How much to you thing the farmer cares about it?

Be honest, did you watch the Dukes of Hazard or did you boycott it because of its racism and hate?

I was a teenager. I was looking at Daisy Duke's ass. It was a TV show. I loved Hogans Heroes and laughed with Shultz. Hoooooogaaaaannnnn!
Absolutely irrelevant.

You just stated that the US flag means different things to different people. The exact same thing can be said about the confederate flag.....yet you arrogantly exclaim "it's just a piece of cloth". It may be to you...and that is fine. But you can certainly see that it carries meaning for others. Yes?

And.....you might give a moment of thought as to why those who are adamantly in favor of it.....appreciate your point of view. Cheers!!

So no. And I bet your parents didn't shut it down to keep you from being exposed to that vile symbol.

A piece of cloth is all it is. Go take a look at one. Just cloth. And perhaps, just a thought now, you might want to give a moment of thought as to why they are adamantly in favor of it rather than just assume that they are in favor of what you are opposed to. Consider that it might not mean to them what it means to you. And.... just for grins and giggles, the other folks might do the same.

Nah.. much more fun to be offended.

They reject the idea that there can be any other viewpoint than their own.

Yep. Both sides. You can't tell who the players are without a program.

 

[Correll]

Do any flags or symbols carry meaning for you?

Sure. But not that one. Do you think the US flag means the same thing to me, an Afghan rebel and a Swiss farmer? How much to you thing the farmer cares about it?

Be honest, did you watch the Dukes of Hazard or did you boycott it because of its racism and hate?

I was a teenager. I was looking at Daisy Duke's ass. It was a TV show. I loved Hogans Heroes and laughed with Shultz. Hoooooogaaaaannnnn!
Absolutely irrelevant.

You just stated that the US flag means different things to different people. The exact same thing can be said about the confederate flag.....yet you arrogantly exclaim "it's just a piece of cloth". It may be to you...and that is fine. But you can certainly see that it carries meaning for others. Yes?

And.....you might give a moment of thought as to why those who are adamantly in favor of it.....appreciate your point of view. Cheers!!

So no. And I bet your parents didn't shut it down to keep you from being exposed to that vile symbol.

A piece of cloth is all it is. Go take a look at one. Just cloth. And perhaps, just a thought now, you might want to give a moment of thought as to why they are adamantly in favor of it rather than just assume that they are in favor of what you are opposed to. Consider that it might not mean to them what it means to you. And.... just for grins and giggles, the other folks might do the same.

Nah.. much more fun to be offended.

They reject the idea that there can be any other viewpoint than their own.

Yep. Both sides. You can't tell who the players are without a program.

Nope. I have not told that they cannot have their own opinion of the flag and what it means.

They dismiss ours, I do not dismiss theirs.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Do any flags or symbols carry meaning for you?

Sure. But not that one. Do you think the US flag means the same thing to me, an Afghan rebel and a Swiss farmer? How much to you thing the farmer cares about it?

Be honest, did you watch the Dukes of Hazard or did you boycott it because of its racism and hate?

I was a teenager. I was looking at Daisy Duke's ass. It was a TV show. I loved Hogans Heroes and laughed with Shultz. Hoooooogaaaaannnnn!
Absolutely irrelevant.

You just stated that the US flag means different things to different people. The exact same thing can be said about the confederate flag.....yet you arrogantly exclaim "it's just a piece of cloth". It may be to you...and that is fine. But you can certainly see that it carries meaning for others. Yes?

And.....you might give a moment of thought as to why those who are adamantly in favor of it.....appreciate your point of view. Cheers!!

So no. And I bet your parents didn't shut it down to keep you from being exposed to that vile symbol.

A piece of cloth is all it is. Go take a look at one. Just cloth. And perhaps, just a thought now, you might want to give a moment of thought as to why they are adamantly in favor of it rather than just assume that they are in favor of what you are opposed to. Consider that it might not mean to them what it means to you. And.... just for grins and giggles, the other folks might do the same.

Nah.. much more fun to be offended.

When you say that it is "just a piece of cloth"...you are suggesting that it has no negative meaning to anyone. That is arrogance and ignorance all balled up together.

Question......do you think it should fly on government buildings?

I don't think I'm coming across here. I don't give a damn if it is or not. And the vast majority of the country doesn't give a damn either. They can fly a dead chicken on a government building if they want. This entire issue is massively stupid. If you want to be offended, then go ahead and be offended.

You are wrong. The majority of the country does care. That much is clear.

I think you are passively accepting of the flag and prefer not to make an issue of it because YOU PERSONALLY are not offended by it or proud of it. And that......is looking the other way instead of standing up for those who have a legitimate fear of what that flag represents. As they say...."the standard you walk past is the standard you accept".

That is your right. And...if you don't care so much....can you explain your desire to join this discussion? It's weird.

 

[Correll]

Sure. But not that one. Do you think the US flag means the same thing to me, an Afghan rebel and a Swiss farmer? How much to you thing the farmer cares about it?

Be honest, did you watch the Dukes of Hazard or did you boycott it because of its racism and hate?

I was a teenager. I was looking at Daisy Duke's ass. It was a TV show. I loved Hogans Heroes and laughed with Shultz. Hoooooogaaaaannnnn!
Absolutely irrelevant.

You just stated that the US flag means different things to different people. The exact same thing can be said about the confederate flag.....yet you arrogantly exclaim "it's just a piece of cloth". It may be to you...and that is fine. But you can certainly see that it carries meaning for others. Yes?

And.....you might give a moment of thought as to why those who are adamantly in favor of it.....appreciate your point of view. Cheers!!

So no. And I bet your parents didn't shut it down to keep you from being exposed to that vile symbol.

A piece of cloth is all it is. Go take a look at one. Just cloth. And perhaps, just a thought now, you might want to give a moment of thought as to why they are adamantly in favor of it rather than just assume that they are in favor of what you are opposed to. Consider that it might not mean to them what it means to you. And.... just for grins and giggles, the other folks might do the same.

Nah.. much more fun to be offended.

When you say that it is "just a piece of cloth"...you are suggesting that it has no negative meaning to anyone. That is arrogance and ignorance all balled up together.

Question......do you think it should fly on government buildings?

I don't think I'm coming across here. I don't give a damn if it is or not. And the vast majority of the country doesn't give a damn either. They can fly a dead chicken on a government building if they want. This entire issue is massively stupid. If you want to be offended, then go ahead and be offended.

You are wrong. The majority of the country does care. That much is clear.

I think you are passively accepting of the flag and prefer not to make an issue of it because YOU PERSONALLY are not offended by it or proud of it. And that......is looking the other way instead of standing up for those who have a legitimate fear of what that flag represents. As they say...."the standard you walk past is the standard you accept".

That is your right. And...if you don't care so much....can you explain your desire to join this discussion? It's weird.

Link to poll showing the majority of the nation does care.?

 

[PratchettFan]

Sure. But not that one. Do you think the US flag means the same thing to me, an Afghan rebel and a Swiss farmer? How much to you thing the farmer cares about it?

Be honest, did you watch the Dukes of Hazard or did you boycott it because of its racism and hate?

It was an amazingly stupid show.

But were you offended by its racism and hate?

I didn't watch it...it was too stupid. I actually thought it was an insulting portrayal of people in the South.

So, you knew enough about it to think it was insulting to the people of the south. But you weren't offended by the flag. Thank you.

You aren't scoring points, you know. It was a fucking TV show.

I'm not here to score points. I am merely expressing what is most certainly the majority position of the country. It was a TV show that was very popular all across the country and the good guys had that symbol of racism and hate on the top of their beloved car. And no one thought anything about it. So you will have to excuse me if I don't get all excited about the fake crisis du jour.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Sure. But not that one. Do you think the US flag means the same thing to me, an Afghan rebel and a Swiss farmer? How much to you thing the farmer cares about it?

Be honest, did you watch the Dukes of Hazard or did you boycott it because of its racism and hate?

I was a teenager. I was looking at Daisy Duke's ass. It was a TV show. I loved Hogans Heroes and laughed with Shultz. Hoooooogaaaaannnnn!
Absolutely irrelevant.

You just stated that the US flag means different things to different people. The exact same thing can be said about the confederate flag.....yet you arrogantly exclaim "it's just a piece of cloth". It may be to you...and that is fine. But you can certainly see that it carries meaning for others. Yes?

And.....you might give a moment of thought as to why those who are adamantly in favor of it.....appreciate your point of view. Cheers!!

So no. And I bet your parents didn't shut it down to keep you from being exposed to that vile symbol.

A piece of cloth is all it is. Go take a look at one. Just cloth. And perhaps, just a thought now, you might want to give a moment of thought as to why they are adamantly in favor of it rather than just assume that they are in favor of what you are opposed to. Consider that it might not mean to them what it means to you. And.... just for grins and giggles, the other folks might do the same.

Nah.. much more fun to be offended.

They reject the idea that there can be any other viewpoint than their own.

Yep. Both sides. You can't tell who the players are without a program.

Nope. I have not told that they cannot have their own opinion of the flag and what it means.

They dismiss ours, I do not dismiss theirs.

You don't? You are aware and accepting of the fact that, for many, this flag is a symbol of hate and causes fear in many people? Is that the case?

 

[LoneLaugher]

Do any flags or symbols carry meaning for you?

Sure. But not that one. Do you think the US flag means the same thing to me, an Afghan rebel and a Swiss farmer? How much to you thing the farmer cares about it?

Be honest, did you watch the Dukes of Hazard or did you boycott it because of its racism and hate?

I was a teenager. I was looking at Daisy Duke's ass. It was a TV show. I loved Hogans Heroes and laughed with Shultz. Hoooooogaaaaannnnn!
Absolutely irrelevant.

You just stated that the US flag means different things to different people. The exact same thing can be said about the confederate flag.....yet you arrogantly exclaim "it's just a piece of cloth". It may be to you...and that is fine. But you can certainly see that it carries meaning for others. Yes?

And.....you might give a moment of thought as to why those who are adamantly in favor of it.....appreciate your point of view. Cheers!!

So no. And I bet your parents didn't shut it down to keep you from being exposed to that vile symbol.

A piece of cloth is all it is. Go take a look at one. Just cloth. And perhaps, just a thought now, you might want to give a moment of thought as to why they are adamantly in favor of it rather than just assume that they are in favor of what you are opposed to. Consider that it might not mean to them what it means to you. And.... just for grins and giggles, the other folks might do the same.

Nah.. much more fun to be offended.

By the way....my father was a racist. A regular Italian NYC raised bigot.

And still I'll bet that flag meant squat to him.

You'd be right. He grew up in NY. It wasn't part of our family culture.

 

[Correll]

It was an amazingly stupid show.

But were you offended by its racism and hate?

I didn't watch it...it was too stupid. I actually thought it was an insulting portrayal of people in the South.

So, you knew enough about it to think it was insulting to the people of the south. But you weren't offended by the flag. Thank you.

You aren't scoring points, you know. It was a fucking TV show.

I'm not here to score points. I am merely expressing what is most certainly the majority position of the country. It was a TV show that was very popular all across the country and the good guys had that symbol of racism and hate on the top of their beloved car. And no one thought anything about it. So you will have to excuse me if I don't get all excited about the fake crisis du jour.

Well said.

I wonder if they will give you all of strawmen they gave me when I brought up the Dukes?

 

[LoneLaugher]

Correll.....

You are skipping over some questions. Why is that?

 

[Correll]

I was a teenager. I was looking at Daisy Duke's ass. It was a TV show. I loved Hogans Heroes and laughed with Shultz. Hoooooogaaaaannnnn!
Absolutely irrelevant.

You just stated that the US flag means different things to different people. The exact same thing can be said about the confederate flag.....yet you arrogantly exclaim "it's just a piece of cloth". It may be to you...and that is fine. But you can certainly see that it carries meaning for others. Yes?

And.....you might give a moment of thought as to why those who are adamantly in favor of it.....appreciate your point of view. Cheers!!

So no. And I bet your parents didn't shut it down to keep you from being exposed to that vile symbol.

A piece of cloth is all it is. Go take a look at one. Just cloth. And perhaps, just a thought now, you might want to give a moment of thought as to why they are adamantly in favor of it rather than just assume that they are in favor of what you are opposed to. Consider that it might not mean to them what it means to you. And.... just for grins and giggles, the other folks might do the same.

Nah.. much more fun to be offended.

They reject the idea that there can be any other viewpoint than their own.

Yep. Both sides. You can't tell who the players are without a program.

Nope. I have not told that they cannot have their own opinion of the flag and what it means.

They dismiss ours, I do not dismiss theirs.

You don't? You are aware and accepting of the fact that this flag is a symbol of hate and causes fear in many people? Is that the case?

I am aware that YOU think of it as a symbol of hate, and that you believe that is cause fear in many people.

On the other hand, you dismiss the stated claims of those who fly the flag, ie that it is a symbol of regional pride and heritage.


You see the difference here?