Obama: Inability to get tougher gun laws shameful

[The Rabbi]

I'm sure more gun laws will fix the problem all the current gun laws haven't.

Not more gun laws, simply enforcing the ones we have after removing the "with the exception of" clause followed by all previous statutes pertaining to gun control.

Try reading a few and learn something.

That is the key point

NRA makes sure that gun legislation is laden with loopholes and then brags how the legislation does not stop gun violence

Link?

Yeah, you've pretty much made yourself irrelevant to this discussion.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Since we dont know what country this is it's hard to say. But let's say it's France, with its enormous Muslim population that riots periodically and sets cars and buildings on fire. Or England, where its enormous Muslim population riots and cuts off soldiers' heads in the street. Or Norway, which has both an enormous rioting Muslim population and domestic crazies shooting up kids. Take your pick.
If they dont think they need guns they are hardly sensible people.

They realize hat guns are not the answer. Your examples are the exception, not the rule.

They've been brainwashed into thinking the state is there to protect them. I could cite virtually every country in Western Europe as they all have the same problem.

They've been brainwashed into thinking the state is there to protect them

the state has no obligation to protect you

the Supreme court made that abundantly clear

 

[The Rabbi]

They realize hat guns are not the answer. Your examples are the exception, not the rule.

They've been brainwashed into thinking the state is there to protect them. I could cite virtually every country in Western Europe as they all have the same problem.

They've been brainwashed into thinking the state is there to protect them

the state has no obligation to protect you

the Supreme court made that abundantly clear

That's in this country. But in Europe 40 years of socialism have taught people that government is the answer to their problems.

 

[Kondor3]

I live in Europe, and people ask me what is wrong with the United States. Why do people think that they have to carry guns? And they are really astonished at the people who want to legalize carrying guns out in the open, like those idiots in Texas with their rifles. I have no answer for them. They know how ridiculous it is, I know how ridiculous it is, but....,

Its because most of their ancestors were serfs, and servility to a ruling class and the belief that only the government elite have the right to be armed was bred into them.

No, they are civilized, sensible people.

They are the inheritors of centuries of servility to kings and princes and their governments.

They have a tradition of going-about unarmed, because their rulers did not trust them to possess arms.

We, too, are inheritors of that same tradition.

But, once we threw-off European rule, we set up for ourselves, in a different way.

That 'different way' has held us in good stead for 230+ years, and it's still working just fine.

We simply need to do a better job of ensuring that lunatics don't have access to firearms.

We'll figure it out.

Your European friends aren't more sensible nor civilized than Americans.

Merely more tightly-packed and trained-up, and strangely content to be so.

No thank you.

 

[NoNukes]

Since we dont know what country this is it's hard to say. But let's say it's France, with its enormous Muslim population that riots periodically and sets cars and buildings on fire. Or England, where its enormous Muslim population riots and cuts off soldiers' heads in the street. Or Norway, which has both an enormous rioting Muslim population and domestic crazies shooting up kids. Take your pick.
If they dont think they need guns they are hardly sensible people.

They realize hat guns are not the answer. Your examples are the exception, not the rule.

They've been brainwashed into thinking the state is there to protect them. I could cite virtually every country in Western Europe as they all have the same problem.

Stick to what you know, and Europe does not fall into that category.

 

[NoNukes]

Its because most of their ancestors were serfs, and servility to a ruling class and the belief that only the government elite have the right to be armed was bred into them.

No, they are civilized, sensible people.

They are the inheritors of centuries of servility to kings and princes and their governments.

They have a tradition of going-about unarmed, because their rulers did not trust them to possess arms.

We, too, are inheritors of that same tradition.

But, once we threw-off European rule, we set up for ourselves, in a different way.

That 'different way' has held us in good stead for 230+ years, and it's still working just fine.

We simply need to do a better job of ensuring that lunatics don't have access to firearms.

We'll figure it out.

Your European friends aren't more sensible nor civilized than Americans.

Merely more tightly-packed and trained-up, and strangely content to be so.

No thank you.

You have obviously been brainwashed.

 

[NoNukes]

I'm sure more gun laws will fix the problem all the current gun laws haven't.

Not more gun laws, simply enforcing the ones we have after removing the "with the exception of" clause followed by all previous statutes pertaining to gun control.

Try reading a few and learn something.

That is the key point

NRA makes sure that gun legislation is laden with loopholes and then brags how the legislation does not stop gun violence

And they need to realize that feeling like you need to carry a weapon in public is not freedom, but terror.

 

[Kondor3]

No, they are civilized, sensible people.

They are the inheritors of centuries of servility to kings and princes and their governments.

They have a tradition of going-about unarmed, because their rulers did not trust them to possess arms.

We, too, are inheritors of that same tradition.

But, once we threw-off European rule, we set up for ourselves, in a different way.

That 'different way' has held us in good stead for 230+ years, and it's still working just fine.

We simply need to do a better job of ensuring that lunatics don't have access to firearms.

We'll figure it out.

Your European friends aren't more sensible nor civilized than Americans.

Merely more tightly-packed and trained-up, and strangely content to be so.

No thank you.

You have obviously been brainwashed.

Hardly.

I merely see the world through different eyes, and hold a different opinion than you do.

You consistently evince a considerable disdain for your country.

You are entirely free to do so.

Do not, however, expect to metaphorically piss on your country, here or elsewhere, where Americans have access to your commentary, and expect to do so without challenge.

Your denigrating metaphorical assaults upon your own country, and your 'canned' responses about 'brainwashing' and narrow perspectives, ring hollow in an increasingly wired and connected global village, and serve merely to indicate a baseless, groundless faux sense of superiority, and a lack of depth and ability, in advancing your own arguments.

 

[The Rabbi]

They realize hat guns are not the answer. Your examples are the exception, not the rule.

They've been brainwashed into thinking the state is there to protect them. I could cite virtually every country in Western Europe as they all have the same problem.

Stick to what you know, and Europe does not fall into that category.

I seriously doubt you could find Europe on a map, much less know anything about it.

 

[martybegan]

Not more gun laws, simply enforcing the ones we have after removing the "with the exception of" clause followed by all previous statutes pertaining to gun control.

Try reading a few and learn something.

That is the key point

NRA makes sure that gun legislation is laden with loopholes and then brags how the legislation does not stop gun violence

And they need to realize that feeling like you need to carry a weapon in public is not freedom, but terror.

Being told only the government can walk round with a weapon is tyranny, pure and simple. Just because you are a mindless lemming doesn't mean the rest of us have to accept being one.

 

[Darkwind]

Not more gun laws, simply enforcing the ones we have after removing the "with the exception of" clause followed by all previous statutes pertaining to gun control.

Try reading a few and learn something.

That is the key point

NRA makes sure that gun legislation is laden with loopholes and then brags how the legislation does not stop gun violence

Link?

Yeah, you've pretty much made yourself irrelevant to this discussion.

When has he been relevant to any discussion?

 

[hunarcy]

What a lame, bullshit excuse. I live in a country with strict gun laws, and freedom. Keep telling yourself that America is the country with the most freedom, keep lying to yourself. I left America almost 20 years ago, and have not lost any freedom, if anything, the opposite is true.

America left Europe over 200 years, we gained more freedom than ever before seen. You want to live in a strict gun control country, that's your choice. I prefer the choice of living in a society, where my basic safety/security needs are driven by decisions and solutions....

That was 200 years ago. you should live in the present.

So you don't live in the USA? Then why should your opinion even be considered?

 

[Papageorgio]

Move along....nothing to see here

Nothing you can do will stop mass killings
No law will prevent anything
Guns don't kill people...people kill people
Don't even try

Moral of the story.....you see more innocent children lying in a pool of blood...Tough
We got a second amendment

Like aborted fetuses?

Want to see a bunch of pictures?

Wow

Since abortion is legal, you justify the massacre of six year olds

You are one sick fuck

Aborting 50,000,000 babies isn't sick?

You are one sick fuck?


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[rightwinger]

Like aborted fetuses?

Want to see a bunch of pictures?

Wow

Since abortion is legal, you justify the massacre of six year olds

You are one sick fuck

Aborting 50,000,000 babies isn't sick?

You are one sick fuck?


Sent from my iPad using an Android.

Abortion is legal. Has been for 40 years

Murdering six year olds has never been legal

 

[Stephanie]

Move along....nothing to see here

Nothing you can do will stop mass killings
No law will prevent anything
Guns don't kill people...people kill people
Don't even try

Moral of the story.....you see more innocent children lying in a pool of blood...Tough
We got a second amendment

Like aborted fetuses?

Want to see a bunch of pictures?

Wow

Since abortion is legal, you justify the massacre of six year olds

You are one sick fuck

our second amendment rights are legal too
you gun control freaks should be bitching at your government for not PROTECTING those children...Isn't that that THEIR job instead of just giving out money?
so instead you hysterical gun control freaks want to make it harder on the citizens for their FRIKKEN FAILURES
they can't even get the gangs under control in this country so how are they going to protect you by making things harder in our lives...
and anyone who doesn't care about the LEGAL killing of children throught abortion doesn't have a right to talk about children dying in other ways

 

[NoNukes]

They are the inheritors of centuries of servility to kings and princes and their governments.

They have a tradition of going-about unarmed, because their rulers did not trust them to possess arms.

We, too, are inheritors of that same tradition.

But, once we threw-off European rule, we set up for ourselves, in a different way.

That 'different way' has held us in good stead for 230+ years, and it's still working just fine.

We simply need to do a better job of ensuring that lunatics don't have access to firearms.

We'll figure it out.

Your European friends aren't more sensible nor civilized than Americans.

Merely more tightly-packed and trained-up, and strangely content to be so.

No thank you.

You have obviously been brainwashed.

Hardly.

I merely see the world through different eyes, and hold a different opinion than you do.

You consistently evince a considerable disdain for your country.

You are entirely free to do so.

Do not, however, expect to metaphorically piss on your country, here or elsewhere, where Americans have access to your commentary, and expect to do so without challenge.

Your denigrating metaphorical assaults upon your own country, and your 'canned' responses about 'brainwashing' and narrow perspectives, ring hollow in an increasingly wired and connected global village, and serve merely to indicate a baseless, groundless faux sense of superiority, and a lack of depth and ability, in advancing your own arguments.

The word of the day toilet paper is working well for you.

 

[NoNukes]

They've been brainwashed into thinking the state is there to protect them. I could cite virtually every country in Western Europe as they all have the same problem.

Stick to what you know, and Europe does not fall into that category.

I seriously doubt you could find Europe on a map, much less know anything about it.

I have lived in Europe for 18 years. Now, see how stupid you can be when you really do not have a reply?

 

[NoNukes]

That is the key point

NRA makes sure that gun legislation is laden with loopholes and then brags how the legislation does not stop gun violence

And they need to realize that feeling like you need to carry a weapon in public is not freedom, but terror.

Being told only the government can walk round with a weapon is tyranny, pure and simple. Just because you are a mindless lemming doesn't mean the rest of us have to accept being one.

Just because you are paranoid and brainless does not mean that a gun will help the situation.

 

[NoNukes]

America left Europe over 200 years, we gained more freedom than ever before seen. You want to live in a strict gun control country, that's your choice. I prefer the choice of living in a society, where my basic safety/security needs are driven by decisions and solutions....

That was 200 years ago. you should live in the present.

So you don't live in the USA? Then why should your opinion even be considered?

Everyone's opinion should be considered. You can sometimes view things better from a distance.

 

[KGB]

What a lame, bullshit excuse. I live in a country with strict gun laws, and freedom. Keep telling yourself that America is the country with the most freedom, keep lying to yourself. I left America almost 20 years ago, and have not lost any freedom, if anything, the opposite is true.

America left Europe over 200 years, we gained more freedom than ever before seen. You want to live in a strict gun control country, that's your choice. I prefer the choice of living in a society, where my basic safety/security needs are driven by decisions and solutions....

That was 200 years ago. you should live in the present.

No it isn't & you're a fool to think otherwise. Allow me to enlighten you. I'll bet you aren't even aware that the police aren't legally required to protect you.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html

So with that in mind, you honestly think the government is the only means of protection? The Constitution is not a living document & freedom isn't decided by an opinion poll. You already live in a nanny state which is your right. I don't nor would I. I am perfectly capable of making my own decisions. I don't need Big Government to make my choices for me...& in fact, it has already been determined that they have no requirement to do so.