Obama: “Muslim-Americans Are As Patriotic, And American As Any Other Members Of The American Family”

[Sunni Man]

Unlike SunniMan --- who just DAYS before -- spent about 10 pages about how WESTERN cultures were gonna HAVE to comprise in order to have a peaceful practice of Islam in their part of the world. And he was EXCUSING the knifing of a Mother/Daughters in France because they were scantily clad and offensive.

You are incorrect on both points about my comments on previous posts.

1) I never stated that western cultures are going to HAVE to comprise in order to have a "peaceful" Islam in their part of the world.

What I said was, that history has shown when two cultures intermingle. There will be give and take from both camps. That assimilation isn't a one-way street. And that some adjustments will eventually be made within the society.

2) I never excused or condoned the knife attack on the mother and her daughters. I stated that the man was obviously mentally ill.

But I did lay some of the blame on the mother for letting the children be around a psychotic individual while dressed immodestly. ......

 

[Dot Com]

Speaking of patriotism, have Weathertard2020 or Redfish served?

 

[ChrisL]

Nobody knows. That's the problem. These people are NOT like us. They have a completely different culture and totally different beliefs when it comes to a lot of "secular" society rules.

I believe you have that opinion burdening you because you have led a sheltered life, have listened to too much propaganda, have never be in a working environment with people from very diverse backgrounds around the world, have very limited to no travel experience in other parts of the world and/or been immersed in other cultures to gain an understanding of that culture.

Of course there are very bad people in the world, or folks with simply different customs and perspectives in their home Nation/culture, BUT that is no reason to maintain a bunker mentality and live in fear and isolation with the rest of the herd!

Bull and deflection. My statement stands.

 

[flacaltenn]

Nobody knows. That's the problem. These people are NOT like us. They have a completely different culture and totally different beliefs when it comes to a lot of "secular" society rules.

I believe you have that opinion burdening you because you have led a sheltered life, have listened to too much propaganda, have never be in a working environment with people from very diverse backgrounds around the world, have very limited to no travel experience in other parts of the world and/or been immersed in other cultures to gain an understanding of that culture.

Of course there are very bad people in the world, or folks with simply different customs and perspectives in their home Nation/culture, BUT that is no reason to maintain a bunker mentality and live in fear and isolation with the rest of the herd!

So you're saying that when Bush got that Intel Memo that "Bin Laden intent on planning attacks on American soil" or when 43 terrorist groups and a couple Arab nations declare they are at war with you and 15 to 20% of the ARAB Muslim world agrees with that -- that everyone -- including Bush should have and should now -- ignore it?

 

[flacaltenn]

Unlike SunniMan --- who just DAYS before -- spent about 10 pages about how WESTERN cultures were gonna HAVE to comprise in order to have a peaceful practice of Islam in their part of the world. And he was EXCUSING the knifing of a Mother/Daughters in France because they were scantily clad and offensive.

You are incorrect on both points about my comments on previous posts.

1) I never stated that western cultures are going to HAVE to comprise in order to have a "peaceful" Islam in their part of the world.

What I said was, that history has shown when two cultures intermingle. There will be give and take from both camps. That assimilation isn't a one-way street. And that some adjustments will eventually be made within the society.

2) I never excused or condoned the knife attack on the mother and her daughters. I stated that the man was obviously mentally ill.

But I did lay some of the blame on the mother for letting the children be around a psychotic individual while dressed immodestly. ......

Actually your 30 or 40 posts went a lot farther. Said "obviously the woman and children were dressed immodestly". When told about French women being afraid to sunbath on the beach, you said -- "I'm glad that French women are returning to modesty and civility".

You also said "It was too late for Europe" in regards to preserving their freedoms and tolerance. Said "they just haven't handed over the keys yet"

America is an example that the problem AINT ISLAM. It's the importation of repressive and violent CULTURE that is the issue.

Which is why AMERICA is one of the very few examples of peaceful and open practice of the faith -- without all the political and cultural baggage that USUALLY comes with it..

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

Nobody knows. That's the problem. These people are NOT like us. They have a completely different culture and totally different beliefs when it comes to a lot of "secular" society rules.

I believe you have that opinion burdening you because you have led a sheltered life, have listened to too much propaganda, have never be in a working environment with people from very diverse backgrounds around the world, have very limited to no travel experience in other parts of the world and/or been immersed in other cultures to gain an understanding of that culture.

Of course there are very bad people in the world, or folks with simply different customs and perspectives in their home Nation/culture, BUT that is no reason to maintain a bunker mentality and live in fear and isolation with the rest of the herd!

Bull and deflection. My statement stands.

Deflection my ass! The point of your previous post I addressed directly:

1. "That's the problem."
2. "These people are NOT like us."
3. "They have a completely different culture and totally different beliefs when it comes to a lot of "secular" society rules."

I left out one brief sentence consisting of TWO (2) words which said, "Nobody knows." In response to those three brief sentences YOU wrote, I responded with;

I believe you have that opinion burdening you because you have led a sheltered life, have listened to too much propaganda, have never be in a working environment with people from very diverse backgrounds around the world, have very limited to no travel experience in other parts of the world and/or been immersed in other cultures to gain an understanding of that culture.

Of course there are very bad people in the world, or folks with simply different customs and perspectives in their home Nation/culture, BUT that is no reason to maintain a bunker mentality and live in fear and isolation with the rest of the herd!

Now EXACTLY how is that a deflection from what you posted? I believe you just might be the one deflecting! What do ya think?

 

[ChrisL]

Unlike SunniMan --- who just DAYS before -- spent about 10 pages about how WESTERN cultures were gonna HAVE to comprise in order to have a peaceful practice of Islam in their part of the world. And he was EXCUSING the knifing of a Mother/Daughters in France because they were scantily clad and offensive.

You are incorrect on both points about my comments on previous posts.

1) I never stated that western cultures are going to HAVE to comprise in order to have a "peaceful" Islam in their part of the world.

What I said was, that history has shown when two cultures intermingle. There will be give and take from both camps. That assimilation isn't a one-way street. And that some adjustments will eventually be made within the society.

2) I never excused or condoned the knife attack on the mother and her daughters. I stated that the man was obviously mentally ill.

But I did lay some of the blame on the mother for letting the children be around a psychotic individual while dressed immodestly. ......

Actually your 30 or 40 posts went a lot farther. Said "obviously the woman and children were dressed immodestly". When told about French women being afraid to sunbath on the beach, you said -- "I'm glad that French women are returning to modesty and civility".

You also said "It was too late for Europe" in regards to preserving their freedoms and tolerance. America is an example that the problem AINT ISLAM. It's the importation of repressive and violent CULTURE that is the issue.

Which is why AMERICA is one of the very few examples of peaceful and open practice of the faith -- without all the political and cultural baggage that USUALLY comes with it..

Because of separation of church and state in our society which is secular. Thankfully.

 

[ChrisL]

Nobody knows. That's the problem. These people are NOT like us. They have a completely different culture and totally different beliefs when it comes to a lot of "secular" society rules.

I believe you have that opinion burdening you because you have led a sheltered life, have listened to too much propaganda, have never be in a working environment with people from very diverse backgrounds around the world, have very limited to no travel experience in other parts of the world and/or been immersed in other cultures to gain an understanding of that culture.

Of course there are very bad people in the world, or folks with simply different customs and perspectives in their home Nation/culture, BUT that is no reason to maintain a bunker mentality and live in fear and isolation with the rest of the herd!

Bull and deflection. My statement stands.

Deflection my ass! The point of your previous post I addressed directly:

1. "That's the problem."
2. "These people are NOT like us."
3. "They have a completely different culture and totally different beliefs when it comes to a lot of "secular" society rules."

I left out one brief sentence consisting of TWO (2) words which said, "Nobody knows." In response to those three brief sentences YOU wrote, I responded with;

I believe you have that opinion burdening you because you have led a sheltered life, have listened to too much propaganda, have never be in a working environment with people from very diverse backgrounds around the world, have very limited to no travel experience in other parts of the world and/or been immersed in other cultures to gain an understanding of that culture.

Of course there are very bad people in the world, or folks with simply different customs and perspectives in their home Nation/culture, BUT that is no reason to maintain a bunker mentality and live in fear and isolation with the rest of the herd!

Now EXACTLY how is that a deflection from what you posted? I believe you just might be the one deflecting! What do ya think?

MY post still stands. Their culture clashes with our culture. End of story.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Nobody knows. That's the problem. These people are NOT like us. They have a completely different culture and totally different beliefs when it comes to a lot of "secular" society rules.

I believe you have that opinion burdening you because you have led a sheltered life, have listened to too much propaganda, have never be in a working environment with people from very diverse backgrounds around the world, have very limited to no travel experience in other parts of the world and/or been immersed in other cultures to gain an understanding of that culture.

Of course there are very bad people in the world, or folks with simply different customs and perspectives in their home Nation/culture, BUT that is no reason to maintain a bunker mentality and live in fear and isolation with the rest of the herd!

Bull and deflection. My statement stands.

Deflection my ass! The point of your previous post I addressed directly:

1. "That's the problem."
2. "These people are NOT like us."
3. "They have a completely different culture and totally different beliefs when it comes to a lot of "secular" society rules."

I left out one brief sentence consisting of TWO (2) words which said, "Nobody knows." In response to those three brief sentences YOU wrote, I responded with;

I believe you have that opinion burdening you because you have led a sheltered life, have listened to too much propaganda, have never be in a working environment with people from very diverse backgrounds around the world, have very limited to no travel experience in other parts of the world and/or been immersed in other cultures to gain an understanding of that culture.

Of course there are very bad people in the world, or folks with simply different customs and perspectives in their home Nation/culture, BUT that is no reason to maintain a bunker mentality and live in fear and isolation with the rest of the herd!

Now EXACTLY how is that a deflection from what you posted? I believe you just might be the one deflecting! What do ya think?

MY post still stands. Their culture clashes with our culture. End of story.

I agree but there are good Muslims like Sunni, in great numbers too.. I know him pretty well and he's an exceptional man. Having said as much, those same Muslims need to stand up and be heard, speak out, turn in ANYONE who they believe to be radical.

 

[Sunni Man]

Actually your 30 or 40 posts went a lot farther. Said "obviously the woman and children were dressed immodestly". When told about French women being afraid to sunbath on the beach, you said -- "I'm glad that French women are returning to modesty and civility".

If you had dug a little deeper and read the article.

You would have discovered the French women hadn't changed their sunbathing dress on the beach because of being afraid of muslims.

They changed mode of dress because they didn't want to be associated with porn themed clothing. And because the sun is hard on the skin and also the risk of sun cancer.

The OP is the one who lied about the article and made it about fear of muslims. ......

 

[ChrisL]

Nobody knows. That's the problem. These people are NOT like us. They have a completely different culture and totally different beliefs when it comes to a lot of "secular" society rules.

I believe you have that opinion burdening you because you have led a sheltered life, have listened to too much propaganda, have never be in a working environment with people from very diverse backgrounds around the world, have very limited to no travel experience in other parts of the world and/or been immersed in other cultures to gain an understanding of that culture.

Of course there are very bad people in the world, or folks with simply different customs and perspectives in their home Nation/culture, BUT that is no reason to maintain a bunker mentality and live in fear and isolation with the rest of the herd!

Bull and deflection. My statement stands.

Deflection my ass! The point of your previous post I addressed directly:

1. "That's the problem."
2. "These people are NOT like us."
3. "They have a completely different culture and totally different beliefs when it comes to a lot of "secular" society rules."

I left out one brief sentence consisting of TWO (2) words which said, "Nobody knows." In response to those three brief sentences YOU wrote, I responded with;

I believe you have that opinion burdening you because you have led a sheltered life, have listened to too much propaganda, have never be in a working environment with people from very diverse backgrounds around the world, have very limited to no travel experience in other parts of the world and/or been immersed in other cultures to gain an understanding of that culture.

Of course there are very bad people in the world, or folks with simply different customs and perspectives in their home Nation/culture, BUT that is no reason to maintain a bunker mentality and live in fear and isolation with the rest of the herd!

Now EXACTLY how is that a deflection from what you posted? I believe you just might be the one deflecting! What do ya think?

MY post still stands. Their culture clashes with our culture. End of story.

I agree but there are good Muslims like Sunni, in great numbers too.. I know him pretty well and he's an exceptional man. Having said as much, those same Muslims need to stand up and be heard, speak out, turn in ANYONE who they believe to be radical.

He says some pretty rotten things about women.

 

[ChrisL]

Actually your 30 or 40 posts went a lot farther. Said "obviously the woman and children were dressed immodestly". When told about French women being afraid to sunbath on the beach, you said -- "I'm glad that French women are returning to modesty and civility".

If you had dug a little deeper and read the article.

You would have discovered the French women hadn't changed their sunbathing dress on the beach because of being afraid of muslims.

They changed mode of dress because they didn't want to be associated with porn themed clothing. And because the sun is hard on the skin and also the risk of sun cancer.

The OP is the one who lied about the article and made it about fear of muslims. ......

Oh my god. Lol.

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

Nobody knows. That's the problem. These people are NOT like us. They have a completely different culture and totally different beliefs when it comes to a lot of "secular" society rules.

I believe you have that opinion burdening you because you have led a sheltered life, have listened to too much propaganda, have never be in a working environment with people from very diverse backgrounds around the world, have very limited to no travel experience in other parts of the world and/or been immersed in other cultures to gain an understanding of that culture.

Of course there are very bad people in the world, or folks with simply different customs and perspectives in their home Nation/culture, BUT that is no reason to maintain a bunker mentality and live in fear and isolation with the rest of the herd!

So you're saying that when Bush got that Intel Memo that "Bin Laden intent on planning attacks on American soil" or when 43 terrorist groups and a couple Arab nations declare they are at war with you and 15 to 20% of the ARAB Muslim world agrees with that -- that everyone -- including Bush should have and should now -- ignore it?

Did I mention anything close to that anywhere in my post even approaching that stupid and uninformed conclusion you cobbled together from whole unwashed cloth? If I did, you quote the damn passage, fool! Don't even try to put words in my mouth or falsely attribute or deceitfully imply or infer "things" to which I did not put my hand.

The Aug 6, 2001 PDB among your other non sequitur idiocies, to which you are referring, had nothing to do whatsoever, with my post to another! Now that I have your measure, crawl back in your hole

 

[Syriusly]

Pres. Obama is correct.

The vast majority of American Muslims are patriotic law abiding citizens who are fully integrated into our society. .......

Says the Sunni who thinks French women should "cover up" to avoid making him feel uncomfortable.

I disagree on Sunni Man's bigotry- but you didn't address his comment- and I think that is a shame.

Because while he is usually wrong- in this case he is correct.

The vast majority of American Muslims are patriotic law abiding citizens who are members of our society.

You really have problems reading what people ACTUALLY say dontcha? 2nd time in 3 days..

If ya wanna BUST me for something. QUOTE IT exactly -- and we'll chat. You do recognize the difference between accommodation and compromise, and assimilation dontcha?

I actually quoted you exactly- here is what you said- in response to Sunni Man's comments-

Sunni: Pres. Obama is correct.

The vast majority of American Muslims are patriotic law abiding citizens who are fully integrated into our society. .......

Flacal:

Says the Sunni who thinks French women should "cover up" to avoid making him feel uncomfortable.

Me:
I disagree on Sunni Man's bigotry- but you didn't address his comment- and I think that is a shame.

Because while he is usually wrong- in this case he is correct.

The vast majority of American Muslims are patriotic law abiding citizens who are members of our society.

What part didn't I 'quote exactly'? I responded to your response to Sunni.

 

[ChrisL]

Nobody knows. That's the problem. These people are NOT like us. They have a completely different culture and totally different beliefs when it comes to a lot of "secular" society rules.

I believe you have that opinion burdening you because you have led a sheltered life, have listened to too much propaganda, have never be in a working environment with people from very diverse backgrounds around the world, have very limited to no travel experience in other parts of the world and/or been immersed in other cultures to gain an understanding of that culture.

Of course there are very bad people in the world, or folks with simply different customs and perspectives in their home Nation/culture, BUT that is no reason to maintain a bunker mentality and live in fear and isolation with the rest of the herd!

So you're saying that when Bush got that Intel Memo that "Bin Laden intent on planning attacks on American soil" or when 43 terrorist groups and a couple Arab nations declare they are at war with you and 15 to 20% of the ARAB Muslim world agrees with that -- that everyone -- including Bush should have and should now -- ignore it?

Did I mention anything close to that anywhere in my post even approaching that stupid and uninformed conclusion you cobbled together from whole unwashed cloth? If I did, you quote the damn passage, fool! Don't even try to put words in my mouth or falsely attribute or deceitfully imply or infer "things" to which I did not put my hand.

The Aug 6, 2001 PDB among your other non sequitur idiocies, to which you are referring, had nothing to do whatsoever, with my post to another! Now that I have your measure, crawl back in your hole

I am the one who made a comment. You addressed MY comment. I don't care what you say. Their culture clashes with our culture in many, many ways.

 

[ChrisL]

Pres. Obama is correct.

The vast majority of American Muslims are patriotic law abiding citizens who are fully integrated into our society. .......

Says the Sunni who thinks French women should "cover up" to avoid making him feel uncomfortable.

I disagree on Sunni Man's bigotry- but you didn't address his comment- and I think that is a shame.

Because while he is usually wrong- in this case he is correct.

The vast majority of American Muslims are patriotic law abiding citizens who are members of our society.

You really have problems reading what people ACTUALLY say dontcha? 2nd time in 3 days..

If ya wanna BUST me for something. QUOTE IT exactly -- and we'll chat. You do recognize the difference between accommodation and compromise, and assimilation dontcha?

I actually quoted you exactly- here is what you said- in response to Sunni Man's comments-

Sunni: Pres. Obama is correct.

The vast majority of American Muslims are patriotic law abiding citizens who are fully integrated into our society. .......

Flacal:

Says the Sunni who thinks French women should "cover up" to avoid making him feel uncomfortable.

Me:
I disagree on Sunni Man's bigotry- but you didn't address his comment- and I think that is a shame.

Because while he is usually wrong- in this case he is correct.

The vast majority of American Muslims are patriotic law abiding citizens who are members of our society.

What part didn't I 'quote exactly'? I responded to your response to Sunni.

You miss the bigger picture in which Sunni's own words betray his claims of Muslims being "integrated" into society.

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

Nobody knows. That's the problem. These people are NOT like us. They have a completely different culture and totally different beliefs when it comes to a lot of "secular" society rules.

I believe you have that opinion burdening you because you have led a sheltered life, have listened to too much propaganda, have never be in a working environment with people from very diverse backgrounds around the world, have very limited to no travel experience in other parts of the world and/or been immersed in other cultures to gain an understanding of that culture.

Of course there are very bad people in the world, or folks with simply different customs and perspectives in their home Nation/culture, BUT that is no reason to maintain a bunker mentality and live in fear and isolation with the rest of the herd!

Bull and deflection. My statement stands.

Deflection my ass! The point of your previous post I addressed directly:

1. "That's the problem."
2. "These people are NOT like us."
3. "They have a completely different culture and totally different beliefs when it comes to a lot of "secular" society rules."

I left out one brief sentence consisting of TWO (2) words which said, "Nobody knows." In response to those three brief sentences YOU wrote, I responded with;

I believe you have that opinion burdening you because you have led a sheltered life, have listened to too much propaganda, have never be in a working environment with people from very diverse backgrounds around the world, have very limited to no travel experience in other parts of the world and/or been immersed in other cultures to gain an understanding of that culture.

Of course there are very bad people in the world, or folks with simply different customs and perspectives in their home Nation/culture, BUT that is no reason to maintain a bunker mentality and live in fear and isolation with the rest of the herd!

Now EXACTLY how is that a deflection from what you posted? I believe you just might be the one deflecting! What do ya think?

MY post still stands. Their culture clashes with our culture. End of story.

It may stand in your mind which is full of fear and loathing of what you keep at a distance. Not much of a life to be that damn scared of living the life the Creator has given you to embrace and enjoy and LOVE!

Have a good evening Chris!

 

[ChrisL]

Nobody knows. That's the problem. These people are NOT like us. They have a completely different culture and totally different beliefs when it comes to a lot of "secular" society rules.

I believe you have that opinion burdening you because you have led a sheltered life, have listened to too much propaganda, have never be in a working environment with people from very diverse backgrounds around the world, have very limited to no travel experience in other parts of the world and/or been immersed in other cultures to gain an understanding of that culture.

Of course there are very bad people in the world, or folks with simply different customs and perspectives in their home Nation/culture, BUT that is no reason to maintain a bunker mentality and live in fear and isolation with the rest of the herd!

Bull and deflection. My statement stands.

Deflection my ass! The point of your previous post I addressed directly:

1. "That's the problem."
2. "These people are NOT like us."
3. "They have a completely different culture and totally different beliefs when it comes to a lot of "secular" society rules."

I left out one brief sentence consisting of TWO (2) words which said, "Nobody knows." In response to those three brief sentences YOU wrote, I responded with;

I believe you have that opinion burdening you because you have led a sheltered life, have listened to too much propaganda, have never be in a working environment with people from very diverse backgrounds around the world, have very limited to no travel experience in other parts of the world and/or been immersed in other cultures to gain an understanding of that culture.

Of course there are very bad people in the world, or folks with simply different customs and perspectives in their home Nation/culture, BUT that is no reason to maintain a bunker mentality and live in fear and isolation with the rest of the herd!

Now EXACTLY how is that a deflection from what you posted? I believe you just might be the one deflecting! What do ya think?

MY post still stands. Their culture clashes with our culture. End of story.

It may stand in your mind which is full of fear and loathing of what you keep at a distance. Not much of a life to be that damn scared of living the life the Creator has given you to embrace and enjoy and LOVE!

Have a good evening Chris!

There is no "creator." I do enjoy my life here in America where we (at this time) don't have to worry about being killed or tormented by foreign terrorists. I want to keep it that way. Become the next Israel? No thanks. If you don't believe these people are savages, maybe you should try living there and speaking your mind?

 

[Syriusly]

Like Tim McVeigh?

Exactly. We have our own psychos to worry about. Why import more?

What psychos are we importing?

Nobody knows. That's the problem. These people are NOT like us. They have a completely different culture and totally different beliefs when it comes to a lot of "secular" society rules.

'these people'?

Who are 'these people'?

Who do you think? Immigrants from the uncivilized backwards hell hole called the Middle East. No thank you. Let them stay put and kill each other off. The world would be a better place for it! Now, go ahead and call me a "bigot" or a "racist." Lol.

Have you actually ever met a "Muslim immigrant"?

The first Muslim 'immigrant' I remember meeting was Egyptian- he was in the United States working on his master's- he was already a Medical Doctor but was getting a Masters in another field. His wife was delightful- they had hosted American students in Alexandria for years.

Then there was my buddy who was also from Egypt- he was here studying for a masters in Engineering- he was so excited and couldn't wait to become an American citizen. He didn't eat pork or drink alcohol but we were able to overcome those shortcomings.

I have known dozens of Muslim immigrants to the United States- some from the Middle East, some from Asia, some from Africa. All good people- like most people I have known. Most of the ones I have known were better educated than most Americans- typically with at least a college degree and able to speak at least 3 languages. Their kids go to public school and play football and basketball and volleyball. The parents serve on the PTA. They are all here for the American dream- often escaping the repression of their home countries.

In other words- pretty much like most of the immigrants we have had in the United States.

 

[Syriusly]

He's right. What's the problem?

Take a look at the no fly list and tell me American Muslims are mainstream.

Hey asshole, next time you're in DC take a trip across the Potomac to Arlington and visit the National Cemetery. You'll see not only Christian Crosses and the Star of David on the headstones, but Crescent Moons also! 3500 Muslim Americans joined the US Armed Forces after 9/11, a number proportionate to the Christian and Jewish populations in the US. Not all of them came back home alive to go on with their life. And Muslims have bled for this Nation since the Revolutionary War, you fool!

If Muslims are good enough to fight and die for this Nation, they definitely deserve the respect any DECENT AMERICAN would afford another American! Stuff your ignorance, bigotry and xenophobic horseshit in your fucking pie hole, scumbag!

Oh wow, Muslims joined the military. Some of them even got out before they started murdering their fellow soldiers too.

Weatherman is an American hating asshole.

He's right. What's the problem?

Take a look at the no fly list and tell me American Muslims are mainstream.

Hey asshole, next time you're in DC take a trip across the Potomac to Arlington and visit the National Cemetery. You'll see not only Christian Crosses and the Star of David on the headstones, but Crescent Moons also! 3500 Muslim Americans joined the US Armed Forces after 9/11, a number proportionate to the Christian and Jewish populations in the US. Not all of them came back home alive to go on with their life. And Muslims have bled for this Nation since the Revolutionary War, you fool!

If Muslims are good enough to fight and die for this Nation, they definitely deserve the respect any DECENT AMERICAN would afford another American! Stuff your ignorance, bigotry and xenophobic horseshit in your fucking pie hole, scumbag!

Oh wow, Muslims joined the military. Some of them even got out before they started murdering their fellow soldiers too.

Weatherman is an American hating asshole.

Obviously you lost the debate.

Obviously you are an American hating asshole.