Obama Policies Fueled Our Economic Boom. Don’t Let Trump And His Rich Man’s Tax Cut Steal The Credit

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Donald Trump is good at certain things. (Please take a deep breath and don’t throw your mouse or laptop at the wall.) I have not come to praise Mr. Lost The Popular Vote By 2.9 Million. But the truth is the truth—even if the truth is something Trump wouldn’t recognize if it landed right on the dyed bird’s nest that covers his dome. In any case, we must acknowledge that the man has demonstrated the ability to shape the media narrative for his own nefarious purposes.

For example, when the term “fake news” first gained widespread usage during the 2016 campaign, it most often referred to anti-Hillary, pro-Trump stories planted by non-journalists on social media. Trump, however, has over the past year co-opted the term successfully enough so that, for many, it now primarily refers to mainstream journalists’ supposed anti-Trump bias. Similarly, he has sought to control the narrative about the strong performance of the American economy, and last week’s passage of the rich man’s tax cut is going to be a crucial pivot point in that narrative. The mainstream media and the American people simply cannot allow him to control it the way he has controlled the narrative on fake news.

Throughout his time in the White House, Trump has been obsessed with denigrating the accomplishments of Barack Obama (Think: “Obamacare is imploding”—it isn’t, but who knows what will happen next year as a result of Trump’s repeal of the individual mandate and other steps taken to sabotage the health care law).

Washington Post fact-checker Nicole Lewis offered a detailed comparison of the economy under Trump thus far and Obama. There’s far too much detail to go into here, but here are some highlights. First, the stock market growth in Trump’s first 10 months doesn’t look nearly as impressive when you learn that it is no better than the market’s performance in peer countries like the UK, Germany, and Japan. This isn’t a Trump bull market, it’s a global one. By comparison, under Obama the U.S. stock market, as measured by the S&P 500, not only tripled over eight years, it significantly outperformed the markets in those same peer countries.

Job growth under Trump lags behind job growth under Obama (in a comparable time period, i.e., February through November) in each of the previous four years, and five out of the last seven years of the Obama presidency. And while we’re on the topic of media narrative, Trump now touts the big drop of about one-half of 1 percent in the unemployment rate since he took office, but while Obama was president he denigratedthe unemployment rate as “nonsense.” That’s not surprising given that it fell almost five points during the final five years of the Obama presidency.

Overall, the economy under Trump thus far looks no better by most measures than the economy in the last years under Obama. Furthermore, whereas Trump inherited the strong Obama economy, Obama inherited the Great Recession from George W. Bush—the worst economic crash since the Great Depression. That crash followed years of Republican control of Congress and a round of tax cuts whose benefits flowed mostly to the wealthy (sound familiar?). Until the passage of the Trump tax scheme, there were no significant changes to the economic policies put in place during the Obama presidency—policies that brought our economy out of the Great Recession and which have given us the longest lasting period of job growth in our history.

Trump’s comments above about his tax scheme and “rocket fuel” make clear that he will go even further than he has so far in claiming credit for anything good happening in the economy. He and his right-wing minions have in fact begun doing so. Here’s a headline from the Conservative Review: “The Trump tax cuts are ALREADY raising wages” (all-caps makes it much more convincing, doesn’t it?). Don’t buy it. As Conor Sen at Bloomberg explained, the rich man’s tax cut is merely the “excuse to raise wages. The tight labor market is the real reason.” And of course the tight labor market reflects years of a strong economy bequeathed to us by none other than President Barack Obama. Don’t let Donald Trump steal the credit.

More: Obama Policies Fueled Our Economic Boom. Don’t Let Trump And His Rich Man’s Tax Cut Steal The Credit

Trump continues riding President Obama's coattails and trying to steal his thunder. President Obama gave us a stable and sustainable economy; whereas, Trump is trying to give us a rocket ship economy that may propel us into another Great Depression. The current economy does not need deregulation and tax cuts for stimulation.
And exactly what policies were those? The OP is jsut filled with editorial and hilarious use of "fact checkers" which we all know are just leftard propagandists.
 
So the CORPORATE PROFIT TAX goes to WHICH COUNTRY now????

Lowering the corporate profit tax to 21% means it's still higher than the places where they relocated their HQ to. So what did this accomplish? Nothing. It's going to temporarily inflate the stock market, but we're going to see signs of a recession beginning in Q2 of next year (thanks to the slowing of the housing market brought about by eliminating housing deductions), and we may actually enter a recession just in time for the midterms!


The above is a great example of just what kind of economics invalid still defends Barack the BIGOT IN CHIEF...

Obama grew the stock market more in his first year than Trump did.
Trump's created the fewest number of jobs since 2012.
Economic growth was above 3% multiple quarters during Obama's term.
 
Don't let Trump steal Obama's credit.

Trump didn’t steal Obables credit, Obable added it to our US debts, 9 trillion, your Obable was wonderful wasn’t he?


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Funny. Please answer the following with "credible" sources:

How much new debt did Obama create that wasn't a direct/indirect result of Bush actions/policies?

Ok , so all bad things during Obable was Bush’s fault, and all good things during Trump is Obables fault, you’re Obable was the greatest ever.
And you really believe that shit.


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And exactly what policies were those? The OP is jsut filled with editorial and hilarious use of "fact checkers" which we all know are just leftard propagandists.

You are one fat, lazy, entitled NOBODY to posture as you do on this board. You should be on your goddamned knees thanking Obama for rescuing your shitty life from the inevitable garbage it was going to be thanks to Bush -who you also supported- and his shit Conservative policies of failure.
 
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Donald Trump is good at certain things. (Please take a deep breath and don’t throw your mouse or laptop at the wall.) I have not come to praise Mr. Lost The Popular Vote By 2.9 Million. But the truth is the truth—even if the truth is something Trump wouldn’t recognize if it landed right on the dyed bird’s nest that covers his dome. In any case, we must acknowledge that the man has demonstrated the ability to shape the media narrative for his own nefarious purposes.

For example, when the term “fake news” first gained widespread usage during the 2016 campaign, it most often referred to anti-Hillary, pro-Trump stories planted by non-journalists on social media. Trump, however, has over the past year co-opted the term successfully enough so that, for many, it now primarily refers to mainstream journalists’ supposed anti-Trump bias. Similarly, he has sought to control the narrative about the strong performance of the American economy, and last week’s passage of the rich man’s tax cut is going to be a crucial pivot point in that narrative. The mainstream media and the American people simply cannot allow him to control it the way he has controlled the narrative on fake news.

Throughout his time in the White House, Trump has been obsessed with denigrating the accomplishments of Barack Obama (Think: “Obamacare is imploding”—it isn’t, but who knows what will happen next year as a result of Trump’s repeal of the individual mandate and other steps taken to sabotage the health care law).

Washington Post fact-checker Nicole Lewis offered a detailed comparison of the economy under Trump thus far and Obama. There’s far too much detail to go into here, but here are some highlights. First, the stock market growth in Trump’s first 10 months doesn’t look nearly as impressive when you learn that it is no better than the market’s performance in peer countries like the UK, Germany, and Japan. This isn’t a Trump bull market, it’s a global one. By comparison, under Obama the U.S. stock market, as measured by the S&P 500, not only tripled over eight years, it significantly outperformed the markets in those same peer countries.

Job growth under Trump lags behind job growth under Obama (in a comparable time period, i.e., February through November) in each of the previous four years, and five out of the last seven years of the Obama presidency. And while we’re on the topic of media narrative, Trump now touts the big drop of about one-half of 1 percent in the unemployment rate since he took office, but while Obama was president he denigratedthe unemployment rate as “nonsense.” That’s not surprising given that it fell almost five points during the final five years of the Obama presidency.

Overall, the economy under Trump thus far looks no better by most measures than the economy in the last years under Obama. Furthermore, whereas Trump inherited the strong Obama economy, Obama inherited the Great Recession from George W. Bush—the worst economic crash since the Great Depression. That crash followed years of Republican control of Congress and a round of tax cuts whose benefits flowed mostly to the wealthy (sound familiar?). Until the passage of the Trump tax scheme, there were no significant changes to the economic policies put in place during the Obama presidency—policies that brought our economy out of the Great Recession and which have given us the longest lasting period of job growth in our history.

Trump’s comments above about his tax scheme and “rocket fuel” make clear that he will go even further than he has so far in claiming credit for anything good happening in the economy. He and his right-wing minions have in fact begun doing so. Here’s a headline from the Conservative Review: “The Trump tax cuts are ALREADY raising wages” (all-caps makes it much more convincing, doesn’t it?). Don’t buy it. As Conor Sen at Bloomberg explained, the rich man’s tax cut is merely the “excuse to raise wages. The tight labor market is the real reason.” And of course the tight labor market reflects years of a strong economy bequeathed to us by none other than President Barack Obama. Don’t let Donald Trump steal the credit.

More: Obama Policies Fueled Our Economic Boom. Don’t Let Trump And His Rich Man’s Tax Cut Steal The Credit

Trump continues riding President Obama's coattails and trying to steal his thunder. President Obama gave us a stable and sustainable economy; whereas, Trump is trying to give us a rocket ship economy that may propel us into another Great Depression. The current economy does not need deregulation and tax cuts for stimulation.

Obama Policies Fueled Our Economic Boom

Yup. Obama fueled the shit out of the weakest recovery since WWII.
 
What was the US Federal Debt when Obama took office, and what was it when he left???

What was the US federal debt when Bush the Dumber took office, and what was it when he left? Because he grew it by about the same % Obama did, which was more than any President before him.

Conservatives at the time: <crickets>

Debt only matters when a Democrat is in the White House or in control of Congress. The rest of the time, Conservatives don't even acknowledge its existence.
 
And exactly what policies were those? The OP is jsut filled with editorial and hilarious use of "fact checkers" which we all know are just leftard propagandists.

You are one fat, lazy, entitled NOBODY to posture as you do on this board. You should be on your goddamned knees thanking Obama for rescuing your shitty life from the inevitable garbage it was going to be thanks to Bush -who you also supported- and his shit Conservative policies of failure.
Yeah, I somehow knew no one on the left could even pick one economic policy of Chicago Jesus and claim it is reaping rewards today.
 
1. Regulations governing the coal mining industry (H.J. Res 41).

Mandated by President Barack Obama and finalized in 2016, these regulations “threatened to put domestic extraction companies and their employees at an unfair disadvantage,”White House press secretary Sean Spicer said.

The resolution, signed by Trump in February, repealed the rule and “could save American businesses as much as $600 million annually,” Spicer said.

13 Ways Trump Has Rolled Back Regulations in 100 Days
Which regulations, specifically? Because corporate profits routinely reached record highs despite these unnamed and unmentioned "regulations".

So, coal production is up then. Like higher than during the Obama administration. And coal exports are up too, right?

Quarterly Coal Report - Energy Information Administration

Ruh Roh. Guess not.
serious? you posted this. Seriously? no third and fourth quarter numbers. so how do you tell 2017 without those numbers? Seriously? did you wake up and stupid entered your body or did you fall asleep with it?

Exports were down, and production is not near levels early in the Obama administration. Those regulations that were eliminated didn't do jack shit for coal production, which is more a factor of natural gas prices than any regulation. That is what has been driving the decline in coal, cheaper natural gas prices due to fracking.

But those regulations did one thing, they prevented companies from externalizing costs. So speaking of stupid, you idiots actually support allowing coal companies to externalize their costs, which means YOU PAY instead of they pay.

And the stock market. Well no shit it is booming. Corporations just got a massive tax cut, naturally their stocks, which is nothing more than the perceived value of their future earnings, went up. But it is an artificial and temporary increase. Once the full value of the tax cut has been built in to the market expect little to any gain and actually, well we should be well on our way to a recession within the next two years, probably see the first signs before the midterms. The interest rate yield curve is about to be inverted and that has always been the first sign of a recession.

Amen! Thank you! Trump is trying to artificially juice a good economy left to him by President Obama. This won't end well. Any fool can juice the economy with deregulation and tax cuts - but at what price later? There is a time and place for government to juice the economy - but now isn't it.

Why is it not the time to juice the economy, is it not as shovel ready as we thought, did you forget about those words and who said it.


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Are you attempting to classify W as a "conservative?"

LOL!!!

Can you tell us precisely what W did that was "conservative?"

BTW I was calling for W and Cheney to be put in front of a firing squad in 2004....
 
Yup. Obama fueled the shit out of the weakest recovery since WWII.

Worst collapse since before WWII, and Conservatives did absolutely nothing to help recover the economy. In fact, Conservatives didn't want to do anything; because that would be a tacit admission their trickle-down Bush policies caused the collapse. Why fix something that's infallible as trickle-down economics, right????

BTW - Trump created fewer jobs in 2017 than Obama did in 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2016. Trump barely beats Obama's 2012 numbers and may not have even reached those, once the revisions happen.
 
What was the US federal debt when Bush the Dumber took office,



Thanks for reminding us what the TAX AND SPENDING CUTS of Newt Gingrich did for the US....

Budget surplus
booming economy
foreign companies re-locating here
low end wage inflation
5% real unemployment (unlike Barack's "unemployment number" that wrote off 50 million un/underemployed Americans
 
The very rich benefit most from national security, government-funded research, infrastructure, and property laws. Defending the country benefits the rich more, because they have more to defend. Taxpayer-funded research at the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (the Internet), the National Institute of Health (pharmaceuticals), and the National Science Foundation (the Digital Library Initiative) has laid a half-century foundation for their idea-building. The interstates and airports and FAA and TSA benefit people who have the money to travel.

Here's another good reason for the rich to pay more taxes: With the drop in tax revenue, funding for the preservation of American culture is disappearing. Do we want our national treasures deprived of maintenance because of budget cuts, as is currently happening in Italy? Do we want our national parks sold to billionaires? Do we want programs for music and the arts eliminated from schools, so that only children of the wealthy can participate in them?

Why the Rich Should Pay Higher Taxes

The rich want the benefits - but they don't want to pay for them. They are mostly un-American and unpatriotic with no particular loyalty to America. Corporations only care about return on investment (ROI) for executives and stockholders.
 
I don't fucking believe you for a second


Of course you don't, because you are a sub human birdbrain parrot left wing liar who has no truth, and hates truth... as well as America.


I, LaDexter, am by far the biggest 911 TRUTHER here....

I have way more topics about 911 moved to "Conspiracy" topic than any other poster.....


By chance was this a "757" or a cruise missile....


 
Are you attempting to classify W as a "conservative?"
LOL!!!
Can you tell us precisely what W did that was "conservative?"

1. Deregulation: His regulators backed off lending requirements for subprime loans, and allowed the industry to "self-police"
2. Tax Cuts: Bush erased a budget surplus, producing four record deficits in 8 years that doubled the debt. In fact, Bush credited his tax cuts for the Housing Bubble while campaigning in 2004.
3. Grew debt: Without people using their homes as ATMs, Bush's economy was the worst since the Depression. He also grew debt by more than any single President before him, and nearly doubled what all Presidents had added.
4. Preemptive war: Invading and occupying two middle eastern countries that had nothing to do with 9/11.
5. Bigotry: Pushed anti-LGBT platforms and unconstitutional amendments
 
So the CORPORATE PROFIT TAX goes to WHICH COUNTRY now????

Lowering the corporate profit tax to 21% means it's still higher than the places where they relocated their HQ to. So what did this accomplish? Nothing. It's going to temporarily inflate the stock market, but we're going to see signs of a recession beginning in Q2 of next year (thanks to the slowing of the housing market brought about by eliminating housing deductions), and we may actually enter a recession just in time for the midterms!


The above is a great example of just what kind of economics invalid still defends Barack the BIGOT IN CHIEF...

Obama grew the stock market more in his first year than Trump did.
Trump's created the fewest number of jobs since 2012.
Economic growth was above 3% multiple quarters during Obama's term.

Stocks at record highs, so how do you rationalize that statement.
More people working now than last 8 years, explain that too.
How great he got above 3% a few times ( your saying that’s good?)


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The very rich benefit most from national security, government-funded research, infrastructure, and property laws.



No way.

The people who benefit the most from such spending are the LEFT WING government "workers" who make that cash VANISH....

Where did Obama's $10 trillion of additional DEBT go???


That is why Dems oppose any spending cuts.

Spending cuts are cuts in what Dems can STEAL from the taxpayer....
 
Obama economic policy rewards:
  • Gut the healthcare system and force Americans to pay 30-50% more for healthcare.
  • Only POTUS to never see a 3% GDP, even the ones who died during their first terms.
  • Sent Iran, the worlds leading sponsor of terrorism, billions in US currency on pallots late at night.
  • Handing his pals in "green" companies billions of dollars to see them go belly up a few days later with the money in their pockets.
  • Administration used as a revolving door to Wall Street.
  • Energy policy that forced the poor to pay an additional 25% to keep heat in the house.
  • Starting wars with 3 other nations.
 

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