Obama says he has the authority to kill civilians

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Semantics. Technically, by definition:



And the loss is so unfortunate that officials have just kept quiet except to say (according to your own link):





And








Am I the only one who feels like this convo is extremely Orwellian?

Not to mention how the Administration tried to lie when it first happen and claim that Abdulrahman was a 21 year old "insurgent."

Links?

News reports, based on government sources, originally claimed that Awlaki’s son was 21 years old and an Al Qaeda fighter (needless to say, as Terrorist often means: “anyone killed by the U.S.”), but a birth certificate published by The Washington Post proved that he was born only 16 years ago in Denver.

The killing of Awlaki?s 16-year-old son - Salon.com

You can follow more links at Greenwald's post itself.

 

[JakeStarkey]

KissMy fails to provide good evidence for the assertion. In fact, the USDOJ/OIG Special Report opined:

In early 1996, the Criminal Section of the Civil Rights Division (CRD) of the Department of Justice began supervising the investigation in an attempt to determine whether Trentadue had been beaten or murdered. After CRD presented extensive testimony to a federal grand jury, it declined prosecution of anyone. In a press release dated October 9, 1997, the Department of Justice reported CRD’s conclusions that the investigation failed to establish credible evidence that any BOP personnel violated federal civil rights laws and did not “establish evidence that was inconsistent with a conclusion that Trentadue committed suicide.”

 

[WorldWatcher]

Not saying it was OK, any unfortunate loss of life is regrettable.


What I did though is correct your inaccurate statement that he was assassinated, which was untrue as that would have require for him to be the target for the missile - which he wasn't.



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Semantics. Technically, by definition:



And the loss is so unfortunate that officials have just kept quiet except to say (according to your own link):





And

In the case of Awlaki’s son, however, U.S. officials have been willing to talk only on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about the matter.

Am I the only one who feels like this convo is extremely Orwellian?

Not to mention how the Administration tried to lie when it first happen and claim that Abdulrahman was a 21 year old "insurgent."

They didn't try to claim that he was 21, the claimed he was

"Two U.S. officials, again speaking on the condition of anonymity, suggested in the days after the strike that Abdulrahman al-Awlaki was in his 20s, calling him a “military-age male.” Such a description, under the laws of war, might make it easier to justify his killing.​

And yes, 16 in many countries is military age. Military age in the United States? No. Military age in a middle eastern country? Probably.

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[Kevin_Kennedy]

Semantics. Technically, by definition:



And the loss is so unfortunate that officials have just kept quiet except to say (according to your own link):





And








Am I the only one who feels like this convo is extremely Orwellian?

Not to mention how the Administration tried to lie when it first happen and claim that Abdulrahman was a 21 year old "insurgent."

They didn't try to claim that he was 21, the claimed he was

"Two U.S. officials, again speaking on the condition of anonymity, suggested in the days after the strike that Abdulrahman al-Awlaki was in his 20s, calling him a “military-age male.” Such a description, under the laws of war, might make it easier to justify his killing.​

And yes, 16 in many countries is military age. Military age in the United States? No. Military age in a middle eastern country? Probably.

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"based on government sources"

Also, simply being a "military age" male doesn't actually make one an "insurgent."

 

[JakeStarkey]

The 16-year old was where he was because of his father.

So . . . dig up Dad and complain to him about child abuse.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Not to mention how the Administration tried to lie when it first happen and claim that Abdulrahman was a 21 year old "insurgent."

They didn't try to claim that he was 21, the claimed he was

"Two U.S. officials, again speaking on the condition of anonymity, suggested in the days after the strike that Abdulrahman al-Awlaki was in his 20s, calling him a “military-age male.” Such a description, under the laws of war, might make it easier to justify his killing.​

And yes, 16 in many countries is military age. Military age in the United States? No. Military age in a middle eastern country? Probably.

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"based on government sources"

Also, simply being a "military age" male doesn't actually make one an "insurgent."

Didn't say anything about an "insurgent", addressing the claim that the government said he was 21.

Being "military age" isn't claiming someone is 21. Hell in this country "military age" is 18. Probably younger in Middle Eastern countries.


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[Kevin_Kennedy]

They didn't try to claim that he was 21, the claimed he was

"Two U.S. officials, again speaking on the condition of anonymity, suggested in the days after the strike that Abdulrahman al-Awlaki was in his 20s, calling him a “military-age male.” Such a description, under the laws of war, might make it easier to justify his killing.​

And yes, 16 in many countries is military age. Military age in the United States? No. Military age in a middle eastern country? Probably.

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"based on government sources"

Also, simply being a "military age" male doesn't actually make one an "insurgent."

Didn't say anything about an "insurgent", addressing the claim that the government said he was 21.

Being "military age" isn't claiming someone is 21. Hell in this country "military age" is 18. Probably younger in Middle Eastern countries.


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Except they did claim he was 21, which is why his birth certificate was provided proving he was only 16.

 

[WorldWatcher]

"based on government sources"

Also, simply being a "military age" male doesn't actually make one an "insurgent."

Didn't say anything about an "insurgent", addressing the claim that the government said he was 21.

Being "military age" isn't claiming someone is 21. Hell in this country "military age" is 18. Probably younger in Middle Eastern countries.


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Except they did claim he was 21, which is why his birth certificate was provided proving he was only 16.

I provided a link showing the claim was "military age male".


Do you have a link from an administration official showing a claim of 21?



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[KissMy]

KissMy fails to provide good evidence for the assertion. In fact, the USDOJ/OIG Special Report opined:

In early 1996, the Criminal Section of the Civil Rights Division (CRD) of the Department of Justice began supervising the investigation in an attempt to determine whether Trentadue had been beaten or murdered. After CRD presented extensive testimony to a federal grand jury, it declined prosecution of anyone. In a press release dated October 9, 1997, the Department of Justice reported CRD’s conclusions that the investigation failed to establish credible evidence that any BOP personnel violated federal civil rights laws and did not “establish evidence that was inconsistent with a conclusion that Trentadue committed suicide.”

You are an idiot!

Suicide His body was bruised from the bottom of his feet to the top of his head. The FBI moved their files every time just before the court demanded the content's of a certain computer drive or filing cabinet. Of course officially they deny beating him to death. Your retarded reference to 1997 press release is absurd since the court battle was still going on in 2009.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

The 16-year old was where he was because of his father.

So . . . dig up Dad and complain to him about child abuse.

Dad had been dead for two weeks prior to the government killing the son. Can't really blame him.

 

[JakeStarkey]

KissMy fails to provide good evidence for the assertion. In fact, the USDOJ/OIG Special Report opined:

In early 1996, the Criminal Section of the Civil Rights Division (CRD) of the Department of Justice began supervising the investigation in an attempt to determine whether Trentadue had been beaten or murdered. After CRD presented extensive testimony to a federal grand jury, it declined prosecution of anyone. In a press release dated October 9, 1997, the Department of Justice reported CRD’s conclusions that the investigation failed to establish credible evidence that any BOP personnel violated federal civil rights laws and did not “establish evidence that was inconsistent with a conclusion that Trentadue committed suicide.”

You are an idiot!

Suicide His body was bruised from the bottom of his feet to the top of his head. The FBI moved their files every time just before the court demanded the content's of a certain computer drive or filing cabinet. Of course officially they deny beating him to death. Your retarded reference to 1997 press release is absurd since the court battle was still going on in 2009.

Yes, you are The DOJ says you are wrong. Trentadue committed suicide.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The 16-year old was where he was because of his father.

So . . . dig up Dad and complain to him about child abuse.

Dad had been dead for two weeks prior to the government killing the son. Can't really blame him.

Somebody there in TZ is to blame, not the USA.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

semantics. Technically, by definition:



And the loss is so unfortunate that officials have just kept quiet except to say (according to your own link):





And








am i the only one who feels like this convo is extremely orwellian?

not to mention how the administration tried to lie when it first happen and claim that abdulrahman was a 21 year old "insurgent."

they didn't try to claim that he was 21, the claimed he was

"two u.s. Officials, again speaking on the condition of anonymity, suggested in the days after the strike that abdulrahman al-awlaki was in his 20s, calling him a “military-age male.” such a description, under the laws of war, might make it easier to justify his killing.​

and yes, 16 in many countries is military age. Military age in the united states? No. Military age in a middle eastern country? Probably.

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fail.

 

[JakeStarkey]

not to mention how the administration tried to lie when it first happen and claim that abdulrahman was a 21 year old "insurgent."

they didn't try to claim that he was 21, the claimed he was

"two u.s. Officials, again speaking on the condition of anonymity, suggested in the days after the strike that abdulrahman al-awlaki was in his 20s, calling him a “military-age male.” such a description, under the laws of war, might make it easier to justify his killing.​

and yes, 16 in many countries is military age. Military age in the united states? No. Military age in a middle eastern country? Probably.

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fail.

Someone in the Target Zone is responsible for the boy's death, not the USA.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

they didn't try to claim that he was 21, the claimed he was

"two u.s. Officials, again speaking on the condition of anonymity, suggested in the days after the strike that abdulrahman al-awlaki was in his 20s, calling him a “military-age male.” such a description, under the laws of war, might make it easier to justify his killing.​

and yes, 16 in many countries is military age. Military age in the united states? No. Military age in a middle eastern country? Probably.

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fail.

Someone in the Target Zone is responsible for the boy's death, not the USA.

Are you attempting to show up TM on being the stupidest fuck here?

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

not to mention how the administration tried to lie when it first happen and claim that abdulrahman was a 21 year old "insurgent."

they didn't try to claim that he was 21, the claimed he was

"two u.s. Officials, again speaking on the condition of anonymity, suggested in the days after the strike that abdulrahman al-awlaki was in his 20s, calling him a “military-age male.” such a description, under the laws of war, might make it easier to justify his killing.​

and yes, 16 in many countries is military age. Military age in the united states? No. Military age in a middle eastern country? Probably.

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fail.

Hadn't even noticed that.

 

[JakeStarkey]

fail.

Someone in the Target Zone is responsible for the boy's death, not the USA.

Are you attempting to show up TM on being the stupidest fuck here?

Are you so fucked in your head with hate of BHO and for our Republic's constitutional, electoral process that you would leave America defenseless?

If you are not a traitor, then you say what you do because are deranged.

 

[JakeStarkey]

they didn't try to claim that he was 21, the claimed he was

"two u.s. Officials, again speaking on the condition of anonymity, suggested in the days after the strike that abdulrahman al-awlaki was in his 20s, calling him a “military-age male.” such a description, under the laws of war, might make it easier to justify his killing.​

and yes, 16 in many countries is military age. Military age in the united states? No. Military age in a middle eastern country? Probably.

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fail.

Hadn't even noticed that.

fail

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Someone in the Target Zone is responsible for the boy's death, not the USA.

Are you attempting to show up TM on being the stupidest fuck here?

Are you so fucked in your head with hate of BHO and for our Republic's constitutional, electoral process that you would leave America defenseless?

If you are not a traitor, then you say what you do because are deranged.

Nice appeal to emotion fallacy, dipshit.

The target zone wasn't announced in this instant. None of the other civilians were warned either, you clueless fucking retard. Intellectual chapter 11 much?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Are you attempting to show up TM on being the stupidest fuck here?

Are you so fucked in your head with hate of BHO and for our Republic's constitutional, electoral process that you would leave America defenseless?

If you are not a traitor, then you say what you do because are deranged.

Nice appeal to emotion fallacy, dipshit.

The target zone wasn't announced in this instant. None of the other civilians were warned either, you clueless fucking retard. Intellectual chapter 11 much?

Common sense logic tells you that if you go into a wolf pen scheduled for attack that you are at risk. The fallacy is yours, you fuckheaded reactionary excuse for a human being.