Obama says US must shift cars, trucks off of oil

[ScienceRocks]

Often times government must lead the way.

What lubricates the bearings and shafts of these "electrical" engines? What produces the bulk electricity world wide?
The use of petroleum products, coal, and natural gas will be in use long after you and I are dust. Get used to it, just as your grandchildren will be used to it well into the 22nd Century.

Did he(obama) or anyone say that we're going to stop using oil for lubricates? NO, he said that we're going phase out refining it into what's called gasoline, lol.

 

[there4eyeM]

Again - WHEN did the government use force?[/QUOTE]

Everything government does is based on force. Every law on the books is backed up with force. The guns may not be on display at the capital building, but just try not paying your taxes and see what happens.

You can't possibly be that naive.[/QUOTE]

Many people have refused to pay federal taxes, based on the definition of wages not being revenue, and won. I've read that around 10% of the potentially taxable don't pay.

There is choice, if one is ready to accept the consequences.

 

[there4eyeM]

"It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority" -Benjamin Franklin

Corollary: It is the question of authority to be responsible to every citizen. -Benjamin Franklin admirer

 

[Lakhota]

Obama says US must shift cars, trucks off of oil

I agree.

 

[LittleNipper]

Obama says US must shift cars, trucks off of oil

NEDRA PICKLER and MATTHEW DALY | March 15, 2013 06:03 PM EST | Associated Press
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Obama says US must shift cars, trucks off of oil

LEMONT, Ill. — Envisioning cars that can go "coast to coast without using a drop of oil," President Barack Obama on Friday urged Congress to authorize spending $2 billion over the next decade to expand research into electric cars and biofuels to wean automobiles off gasoline.

Obama, expanding on an initiative he addressed in his State of the Union speech last month, said the United States must shift its cars and trucks entirely off oil to avoid perpetual fluctuations in gas prices. Citing policies that already require automakers to increase gas mileage, he said he expects that by the middle of the next decade, Americans will only have to fill up their cars half as often.

"We've set some achievable but ambitious goals," Obama said, speaking at Argonne National Laboratory outside Chicago

"The only way to break this cycle of spiking gas prices – the only way to break that cycle for good – is to shift our cars entirely, our cars and trucks, off oil," the president said.

Friday's speech, with its focus on energy, was designed to draw attention to what the White House says is one of Obama's top agenda items for his second term. That focus, however, has been overshadowed as the administration and Congress work on an immigration overhaul, gun legislation and deficit-reduction measures.

Obama cast his proposal as not only a clean energy plan, but as one meant to create opportunities for economic growth.

I'm for research and development...Let the private sector apply it if this is successful without government.

NO! The only way to stop spiking oil prices is to use the oil/natural gas found in our country and stop importing oil. And the fact is we can do this, and the fact is we should do this, and the fact is we are not doing this. And what exactly does the president's car run on and the presidential plane? This is a do as I want President and not a do as I do President. This President wastes more money taking his pleasure trips and then he closes the White House to visitors. All he needs to do is to stay in the White House along with his wife and kids and quit running around. We would save 100's of thousnds of dollars. Plan for the furture but don't try to change everything today or tomorrow.

 

[WethePeopleUS]

Often times government must lead the way.

It's why we elect "leaders".

We who? I elect representatives, not leaders. I expect the people that work for me to do what I want.

Ohh how that would be true if it weren't for lobbyists and super PACs...

 

[LoneLaugher]

Obama says US must shift cars, trucks off of oil

NEDRA PICKLER and MATTHEW DALY | March 15, 2013 06:03 PM EST | Associated Press
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Obama says US must shift cars, trucks off of oil

LEMONT, Ill. — Envisioning cars that can go "coast to coast without using a drop of oil," President Barack Obama on Friday urged Congress to authorize spending $2 billion over the next decade to expand research into electric cars and biofuels to wean automobiles off gasoline.

Obama, expanding on an initiative he addressed in his State of the Union speech last month, said the United States must shift its cars and trucks entirely off oil to avoid perpetual fluctuations in gas prices. Citing policies that already require automakers to increase gas mileage, he said he expects that by the middle of the next decade, Americans will only have to fill up their cars half as often.

"We've set some achievable but ambitious goals," Obama said, speaking at Argonne National Laboratory outside Chicago

"The only way to break this cycle of spiking gas prices – the only way to break that cycle for good – is to shift our cars entirely, our cars and trucks, off oil," the president said.

Friday's speech, with its focus on energy, was designed to draw attention to what the White House says is one of Obama's top agenda items for his second term. That focus, however, has been overshadowed as the administration and Congress work on an immigration overhaul, gun legislation and deficit-reduction measures.

Obama cast his proposal as not only a clean energy plan, but as one meant to create opportunities for economic growth.

I'm for research and development...Let the private sector apply it if this is successful without government.

He wants cars that ignore the laws of physics? Has he ever heard of friction? Does he want us to start killing sperm whales and use them to make grease for the various parts of the car that rub against each other.

Can't get anything past you, can we? You intellectual dynamo, you!

 

[LoneLaugher]

Lakota when it comes to science...I'll agree with you. Reserach and development is one of the modern day things the government does a half way good job on.

I thought you believed in the Constitution, so much for that.

One does not "believe in" the Constitution. It is not a fairy tale like your bible.

One swears an oath to obey and defend it. One is guided by it.

 

[WethePeopleUS]

Obama says US must shift cars, trucks off of oil

I agree.

I concur. I think it is time too. There will always be people who will doubt it can be done, but we never let that stop us before. Someone at some point in time is going to have to come up with a car that doesn't use oil because there is not an infinite amount of crude oil. So if we (humans) are going to have to do it anyway, why not be ahead of the curve and develop the first models ourselves? American innovation must lead the way!

 

[LoneLaugher]

Obama says US must shift cars, trucks off of oil

I agree.

I concur. I think it is time too. There will always be people who will doubt it can be done, but we never let that stop us before. Someone at some point in time is going to have to come up with a car that doesn't use oil because there is not an infinite amount of crude oil. So if we (humans) are going to have to do it anyway, why not be ahead of the curve and develop the first models ourselves? American innovation must lead the way!

Didn't you hear? An oil man from Texas says we have plenty of oil. No worries.

 

[OKTexas]

Lakota when it comes to science...I'll agree with you. Reserach and development is one of the modern day things the government does a half way good job on.

I thought you believed in the Constitution, so much for that.

One does not "believe in" the Constitution. It is not a fairy tale like your bible.

One swears an oath to obey and defend it. One is guided by it.

Well wise ass the Constitution explicitly prohibits funding for the sciences and useful arts, see Article 1, Section 8, Caluse 8.

Now feel free to spin it any way you want.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I thought you believed in the Constitution, so much for that.

One does not "believe in" the Constitution. It is not a fairy tale like your bible.

One swears an oath to obey and defend it. One is guided by it.

Well wise ass the Constitution explicitly prohibits funding for the sciences and useful arts, see Article 1, Section 8, Caluse 8.

Now feel free to spin it any way you want.

That is a ridiculous statement. What is wrong with you?

 

[WethePeopleUS]

I agree.

I concur. I think it is time too. There will always be people who will doubt it can be done, but we never let that stop us before. Someone at some point in time is going to have to come up with a car that doesn't use oil because there is not an infinite amount of crude oil. So if we (humans) are going to have to do it anyway, why not be ahead of the curve and develop the first models ourselves? American innovation must lead the way!

Didn't you hear? An oil man from Texas says we have plenty of oil. No worries.

Ha ha yea the oil yuppies are always going to be saying that. They don't want their wallets getting any smaller...

 

[WethePeopleUS]

I thought you believed in the Constitution, so much for that.

One does not "believe in" the Constitution. It is not a fairy tale like your bible.

One swears an oath to obey and defend it. One is guided by it.

Well wise ass the Constitution explicitly prohibits funding for the sciences and useful arts, see Article 1, Section 8, Caluse 8.

Now feel free to spin it any way you want.

Article I

Section 8, clause 8 of the U.S. Constitution:

To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;


what is your argument? It makes no sense.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articlei

 

[Political Junky]

I concur. I think it is time too. There will always be people who will doubt it can be done, but we never let that stop us before. Someone at some point in time is going to have to come up with a car that doesn't use oil because there is not an infinite amount of crude oil. So if we (humans) are going to have to do it anyway, why not be ahead of the curve and develop the first models ourselves? American innovation must lead the way!

Didn't you hear? An oil man from Texas says we have plenty of oil. No worries.

Ha ha yea the oil yuppies are always going to be saying that. They don't want their wallets getting any smaller...

Meanwhile, the Chinese are building wind farms in Texas.

 

[Saigon]

Well wise ass the Constitution explicitly prohibits funding for the sciences and useful arts, see Article 1, Section 8, Caluse 8.

Now feel free to spin it any way you want.

U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 8

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.


U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 8 - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

 

[EriktheRed]

One does not "believe in" the Constitution. It is not a fairy tale like your bible.

One swears an oath to obey and defend it. One is guided by it.

Well wise ass the Constitution explicitly prohibits funding for the sciences and useful arts, see Article 1, Section 8, Caluse 8.

Now feel free to spin it any way you want.

That is a ridiculous statement. What is wrong with you?

Lone, this is the same guy who claims to not know who Lee Atwater is. Bear that in mind when arguing with him.

 

[yidnar]

Often times government must lead the way.

the same federal government that slaughtered your people.

 

[OKTexas]

One does not "believe in" the Constitution. It is not a fairy tale like your bible.

One swears an oath to obey and defend it. One is guided by it.

Well wise ass the Constitution explicitly prohibits funding for the sciences and useful arts, see Article 1, Section 8, Caluse 8.

Now feel free to spin it any way you want.

That is a ridiculous statement. What is wrong with you?

Try reading it for yourself, the feds are limited to promoting the sciences and useful arts by providing patents and copyright only. It's very straight forward sentence, even you should be able to understand it. That is the ONLY ENUMERATED POWER on the subject.

 

[Saigon]

Try reading it for yourself, the feds are limited to promoting the sciences and useful arts by providing patents and copyright only. It's very straight forward sentence, even you should be able to understand it. That is the ONLY ENUMERATED POWER on the subject.

Well, this is the sentence, which you claim "explicitly prohibits funding" .

'To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;'

If you are smart, you will admit that you got this wrong and apologise. If you are stupid, you'll descend into a tantrum.