Obama thinks we're all stupid. Some of you really are.

[Procrustes Stretched]

Well look at Obama voters, they're low-information and think Progressive economics will really work --this time; this is the one time it will overcome it's 100% Guaranteed fail.

Sure it failed everywhere and every time it's been tried, it's failing right now in Europe, it failed whenever we give Progressives control over any economy no matter how large or small from Detroit to China, but this time, this is the time it will work

social security and medicare are progressive or socialist programs and try kicking the most vehement anti gubmint conservatives off one of those programs and you'll hear the sound of locking and loading. How is progressivism failing in europe? I know people in Sweden and France and they haven't informed me of this. Also Australia and England. They shake their heads and say "only in America" when they hear stories of poor sick americans. But they don't have 24/7 multi billionaire funded anti gubmint media piped in to every one of their homes, truck stops, rest homes, and probably beer bars.

Anti-government cconservatives are just plain -- uhm -- ert -- stupid. Just look at the OP, Dupey little Davey

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Who are you calling stupid?

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love insulting thread titles and OPs, you stupid little twerp.

Your MO is typical of the ignorazzi. What else can they do?

How stupid is it to start a thread calling people stupid and expecting reasonable and rational discussion?

I guess it is the norm in wingnut world to expect people to sit back and take it for the team while being called, and being treated as stupid. It's what tbe Rightwing Noise Machine has primed people for.

 

[PMZ]

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love insulting thread titles and OPs, you stupid little twerp.

Your MO is typical of the ignorazzi. What else can they do?

How stupid is it to start a thread calling people stupid and expecting reasonable and rational discussion?

I guess it is the norm in wingnut world to expect people to sit back and take it for the team while being called, and being treated as stupid. It's what tbe Rightwing Noise Machine has primed people for.

There is ignorance in the country.

My point is not in conflict with yours, but in addition.

And it's a real dilemma.

The first step in solving any problem is acceptance of the problem. There is much Dunning-Kruger syndrome here.

How does one address that effectively?

 

[The Rabbi]

Why are people blaming Obamacare for the decisions of the private insurance company?

Private insurance companies have always changed the rules of their game annually.

So pirvate insurance companies make money by cancelling people's policies?
Are you crazy? :

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Ahh, another thread title calling people stupid?

How friggin stupid is that?

Who are you calling stupid?

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love insulting thread titles and OPs, you stupid little twerp.

Shut the fuck up weenie you little bitch. Have you ever read any of the shit you write?

 

[PMZ]

I used to teach as adjunct faculty. Students came to class presuming ignorance in the topic. Here people presume knowledge and defend that presumption despite solid evidence to the contrary.

What, if anything, is an effective approach towards a cure?

 

[The Rabbi]

I used to teach as adjunct faculty. Students came to class presuming ignorance in the topic. Here people presume knowledge and defend that presumption despite solid evidence to the contrary.

What, if anything, is an effective approach towards a cure?

I doubt you were adjunct anything. Your inability to reason and engage in rational discussion is obvious. You have failed to present "solid evidence" of anything other than your ability to mouth talking points from the Left.

As to a "cure", I presume you mean for health care costs.
Costs decline in the face of competition. We don't have competition in most of healthcare. Ask your doctor what a particular drug he prescribes costs, or how much a procedure is. He has no idea. The consumer has no idea. Who buys a product not knowing or caring what the cost is?
In areas of medicine that are never covered under insurance those costs have been going down, due to competition. We need more of that and less top down dictation and third party payments.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

I used to teach as adjunct faculty. Students came to class presuming ignorance in the topic. Here people presume knowledge and defend that presumption despite solid evidence to the contrary.

What, if anything, is an effective approach towards a cure?

A pedant? Ahh, bingo!

This post is frightening when your other posts are joined to it. You commenting on the PPACA/Obamacare:

It was never sold as health care reform. It was sold as health care insurance regulation.

Requiring everyone to be responsible for their own health care costs. And bringing the cost of those that business chooses not to pay a living wage to, for full time work, from under the table to on top.

"
It was never sold as health care reform. It was sold as health care insurance regulation."

To be fair, it was sold as both.

O
I don't understand. It has nothing at all to do with health care delivery and never did.

I think that the confusion about that, in the minds of the confused people, came from Republican obfuscation building their Obamacare boogeyman.

Funny thing is the Rightwing Noise Machine has distorted the discourse so successfully that even the responses in defense of the PPACA/Obamacare come out of tbe distorted narrative of the right.

"It was never sold as health care reform. It was sold as health care insurance regulation."

Your quote is contrary to subtitles and sections within the bill as passed and enacted and judged constitutional: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/111/hr3590/text

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

I used to teach as adjunct faculty. Students came to class presuming ignorance in the topic. Here people presume knowledge and defend that presumption despite solid evidence to the contrary.

What, if anything, is an effective approach towards a cure?

I doubt you were adjunct anything. Your inability to reason and engage in rational discussion is obvious. You have failed to present "solid evidence" of anything other than your ability to mouth talking points from the Left.

As to a "cure", I presume you mean for health care costs.
Costs decline in the face of competition. We don't have competition in most of healthcare. Ask your doctor what a particular drug he prescribes costs, or how much a procedure is. He has no idea. The consumer has no idea. Who buys a product not knowing or caring what the cost is?
In areas of medicine that are never covered under insurance those costs have been going down, due to competition. We need more of that and less top down dictation and third party payments.

The pedantic rabbi?

Oh shut up!

 

[daveman]

Considering what the right wing defines as "insurance" only proves most really are stupid.

Yes, because only government liberals are qualified to make that decision for everyone.

 

[daveman]

Surprised this thread exists here...

Obama stands by promise that "you can keep your plan" - CBS News

Amid reports of millions of Americans losing their insurance because of new Obamacare regulations, President Obama on Wednesday stood by his promise that those who liked their coverage before the Affordable Care Act became law could keep that coverage.

"If you had one of these substandard plans before the Affordable Care Act became law, and you liked that plan, you were able to keep it," the president said in Boston.​

You could keep your insurance...UNTIL the ACA became law. Then you're screwed.

How many of you idiots are now going to say, "Yeah. Yeah, that's what he meant! Obviously!"

Of course, that's patently ridiculous. He said you could keep your insurance AFTER ACA was law.

http://m.cbsnews.com/storysynopsis....keep-your-plan/&catid=57610109&nb_splitPage=2

Obamacare covers the stupid. Some of you really are stupid.
Quote:
"The president said Wednesday that the notices sent to consumers suggest that they're losing their coverage "somehow because of the Affordable Care Act." He argued, however, that consumers only lost coverage if insurers altered those policies at all after the law took effect. In that case, Mr. Obama said, insurers had to "replace them with quality, comprehensive coverage."

....
Thank gawd some people are covered.

Did you think you had a point, or did you just need some attention?

 

[daveman]

Ahh, another thread title calling people stupid?

How friggin stupid is that?

Obama thinks you're stupid.

And you are.

 

[daveman]

Well look at Obama voters, they're low-information and think Progressive economics will really work --this time; this is the one time it will overcome it's 100% Guaranteed fail.

Sure it failed everywhere and every time it's been tried, it's failing right now in Europe, it failed whenever we give Progressives control over any economy no matter how large or small from Detroit to China, but this time, this is the time it will work

social security and medicare are progressive or socialist programs and try kicking the most vehement anti gubmint conservatives off one of those programs and you'll hear the sound of locking and loading. How is progressivism failing in europe? I know people in Sweden and France and they haven't informed me of this. Also Australia and England. They shake their heads and say "only in America" when they hear stories of poor sick americans. But they don't have 24/7 multi billionaire funded anti gubmint media piped in to every one of their homes, truck stops, rest homes, and probably beer bars.

Anti-government cconservatives are just plain -- uhm -- ert -- stupid. Just look at the OP, Dupey little Davey

Like all progressives, you have a loathing for liberty.

How pathetic.

 

[daveman]

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love insulting thread titles and OPs, you stupid little twerp.

Your MO is typical of the ignorazzi. What else can they do?

How stupid is it to start a thread calling people stupid and expecting reasonable and rational discussion?

I guess it is the norm in wingnut world to expect people to sit back and take it for the team while being called, and being treated as stupid. It's what tbe Rightwing Noise Machine has primed people for.

Actually, it's what Obama's doing to you.

You just lie back and take it.

 

[Antares]

Why are people blaming Obamacare for the decisions of the private insurance company?

Private insurance companies have always changed the rules of their game annually.

You just aren't very bright at all.

It' sad really.

Because the insurance companies complied with the law they "changed" the rules.

You can't make this shit up.

 

[daveman]

I used to teach as adjunct faculty. Students came to class presuming ignorance in the topic. Here people presume knowledge and defend that presumption despite solid evidence to the contrary.

What, if anything, is an effective approach towards a cure?

So, Obama lied to you...multiple times...but it's the fault of the people who point it out.

Good sheep.

 

[PMZ]

I used to teach as adjunct faculty. Students came to class presuming ignorance in the topic. Here people presume knowledge and defend that presumption despite solid evidence to the contrary.

What, if anything, is an effective approach towards a cure?

So, Obama lied to you...multiple times...but it's the fault of the people who point it out.

Good sheep.

He didn't lie to me or you. I figured out what he meant and you were unable to.

That's just one of the many consequences of ignorance.

Did you really think that it was going to be free?

 

[Antares]

I used to teach as adjunct faculty. Students came to class presuming ignorance in the topic. Here people presume knowledge and defend that presumption despite solid evidence to the contrary.

What, if anything, is an effective approach towards a cure?

So, Obama lied to you...multiple times...but it's the fault of the people who point it out.

Good sheep.

He didn't lie to me or you. I figured out what he meant and you were unable to.

That's just one of the many consequences of ignorance.

Did you really think that it was going to be free?

You didn't figure out shitkid, you made up an altenative narrative and pretend its "truth".

Look up the word "vapid".....it applies to you.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Your MO is typical of the ignorazzi. What else can they do?

How stupid is it to start a thread calling people stupid and expecting reasonable and rational discussion?

I guess it is the norm in wingnut world to expect people to sit back and take it for the team while being called, and being treated as stupid. It's what tbe Rightwing Noise Machine has primed people for.

Actually, it's what Obama's doing to you.

You just lie back and take it.

5 posts in a row and what if anything of substance, do add?

 

[daveman]

I used to teach as adjunct faculty. Students came to class presuming ignorance in the topic. Here people presume knowledge and defend that presumption despite solid evidence to the contrary.

What, if anything, is an effective approach towards a cure?

So, Obama lied to you...multiple times...but it's the fault of the people who point it out.

Good sheep.

He didn't lie to me or you. I figured out what he meant and you were unable to.

Wrong. He undeniably lied to you.

The difference is, I acknowledge he lied.

You make excuses for it.

That's just one of the many consequences of ignorance.

I'd ask you to explain how acknowledging reality makes me ignorant, but we both know you're just lashing out mindlessly.

Did you really think that it was going to be free?

Never. Not me. There ain't no such thing as a free lunch. Conservatives know this.

But some liberals thought it would be free:

Some health insurance gets pricier as Obamacare rolls out - latimes.com

Pam Kehaly, president of Anthem Blue Cross in California, said she received a recent letter from a young woman complaining about a 50% rate hike related to the healthcare law.

"She said, 'I was all for Obamacare until I found out I was paying for it,'" Kehaly said.​