Trajan
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I do love Allan West and others are calling it a gaffe.![]()
Not a big fan of Mother Jones, but here is a little perspective for the morons who know nothing about Vietnam.
" But Obama's comment wasn't a gaffe or insult to American war vets, as much as someone like Allen West would like it to be. What Obama said is literally a historical fact. In September 1945, Ho Chi Minh delivered the Declaration of Independence of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam in Hanoi to a crowd of nearly a million Vietnamese. Not only was the "The Star-Spangled Banner" played by a Vietnamese band during his address, but he opens his speech by quoting Thomas Jefferson. Here's the excerpt:
"All men are created equal. They are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness""
Obama Says Ho Chi Minh Was Inspired by Founding Fathers, Conservatives Freak Out | Mother Jones
I am guessing this is what they were discussing Trajan.
So first off was Obama correct in saying he was inspired by Jefferson? And second did obama only say they discussed who Ho Chi Minh was inspired by?
Tell me again what was wrong about his statement and why he needs to apologize to vets?
It is not a historical fact unless you can show me that Ho Chi Min actually believed the words he wrote. Since he is pretty famous, even among the Mother Jones crowd, for being a tyrant and anti freedom, he wasn't actually inspired by them, he used their words to gain a political advantage.
That, by the way, is why I am contemptuous of your viewpoint.
Not to defend Ho Chi Minh, but he had a problem with the French being in his homeland and fought against their control when he returned. Wasn't Vietnam a French colony?
Didn't Jefferson fight against being a British colony? Didn't he fight for the US independence?
It doesn't take much to connect how Minh was inspired by Jefferson. Marx praised Lincoln, doesn't mean anyone would suggest he was anything close to Lincoln. And stating Marx praised him isn't disrespecting civil war vets etc..
This isn't an issue which is the point, you, West, and Trajan are too wrapped in your hate for Obama to see that.
he actually had a bigger problem with the original plan of Chinese nationalists ( Chiang Kai-shek) disarming the Japanese....Ho once said- I prefer to sniff French shit for five years than eat Chinese shit for the rest of my life" translated loosely
and thats a good point except- you can show what Jefferson did, not just his words on paper....Ho?
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