OohPooPahDoo
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Brilliant!! Let's fund something with taxes on something we're trying to get people to stop purchasing.
How utterly stupid these folks are.
I agree. Governor Jindal is a total moron.
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Brilliant!! Let's fund something with taxes on something we're trying to get people to stop purchasing.
How utterly stupid these folks are.
This highly pisses me off - again. Not one penny of tobacco taxes goes toward smokers' healthcare - so why in the hell should smokers (tobacco users) be taxed to pay for children's healthcare and schooling?
On this - I say fuck you, Obama!
This highly pisses me off - again. Not one penny of tobacco taxes goes toward smokers' healthcare - so why in the hell should smokers (tobacco users) be taxed to pay for children's healthcare and schooling?
On this - I say fuck you, Obama!
Lakota, you should just quit smoking. Its bad for you.
I don't think its fair, either, but if the GOP won't allow him to raise the revenue through income taxation then what else is he to do?
Is it fair that chronic smokers use the health care system for smoking related illness which raises the rates for all of us? Is it fair that smokers are less productive at work and others must pull some of their weight? Is it fair that smokers use more sick leave than others, creating additional costs for a business?
Not if the druggies can't get welfare. It certainly doesn't cost more to test if the result is stopping the monthly check and other benefits.
Most people on welfare are not doing drugs. That's what they found out, so there is no real savings, but there is a huge cost to test all the non druggies. Damn, don't you read the news? You believe too many of those chain letters you see on Facebook.
Yea ok, then who is doing the drugs the working folks like me who have to take a random drug test or all the 1%"ers?
You know dang well they are using a simple pee test, use a hair test and it would be a different story.But your right it is a waste of money.
Are you asking for proof that smokers use the health care system?Lakota, you should just quit smoking. Its bad for you.
I don't think its fair, either, but if the GOP won't allow him to raise the revenue through income taxation then what else is he to do?
Is it fair that chronic smokers use the health care system for smoking related illness which raises the rates for all of us? Is it fair that smokers are less productive at work and others must pull some of their weight? Is it fair that smokers use more sick leave than others, creating additional costs for a business?
Is it fair that you can't prove any of those ridiculous questions?
Are you asking for proof that smokers use the health care system?Is it fair that chronic smokers use the health care system for smoking related illness which raises the rates for all of us? Is it fair that smokers are less productive at work and others must pull some of their weight? Is it fair that smokers use more sick leave than others, creating additional costs for a business?
Is it fair that you can't prove any of those ridiculous questions?
In such a way that it raises YOUR rates, yes.Are you asking for proof that smokers use the health care system?Is it fair that chronic smokers use the health care system for smoking related illness which raises the rates for all of us? Is it fair that smokers are less productive at work and others must pull some of their weight? Is it fair that smokers use more sick leave than others, creating additional costs for a business?
Is it fair that you can't prove any of those ridiculous questions?
This highly pisses me off - again. Not one penny of tobacco taxes goes toward smokers' healthcare - so why in the hell should smokers (tobacco users) be taxed to pay for children's healthcare and schooling?
On this - I say fuck you, Obama!
Are you asking for proof that smokers use the health care system?Is it fair that you can't prove any of those ridiculous questions?
Perhaps it was the word ANY that really threw your pee-brain for a loop, pooh. Thats my guess.
Brilliant!! Let's fund something with taxes on something we're trying to get people to stop purchasing.
How utterly stupid these folks are.
All social and central planners are stupid. Not once in the entire history of human existence has a social or central planner ever done anything that didn't result in some of the most tragic, or comical failures in history.
In such a way that it raises YOUR rates, yes.Are you asking for proof that smokers use the health care system?Is it fair that you can't prove any of those ridiculous questions?
In such a way that it raises YOUR rates, yes.Are you asking for proof that smokers use the health care system?
I pay the same as everyone else I work with.
Brilliant!! Let's fund something with taxes on something we're trying to get people to stop purchasing.
How utterly stupid these folks are.
All social and central planners are stupid. Not once in the entire history of human existence has a social or central planner ever done anything that didn't result in some of the most tragic, or comical failures in history.
The polio vaccine was both a social and central plan. I remember my entire neighborhood waiting in line to get vaccinated. I don't recall any of my age group being afflicted with polio. Nothing tragic or comical in that, so it appears your conclusion is wrong (though I doubt you would ever admit such a thing).
Now don't shit all over yourself and claim I'm a "commie" and advocate Five Year Plans. That would be an ad hominem & straw man response. You're better than that, aren't you (LOL)?
In such a way that it raises YOUR rates, yes.Are you asking for proof that smokers use the health care system?Is it fair that you can't prove any of those ridiculous questions?
Will smoking be considered a pre-existing condition under the ACA?
In such a way that it raises YOUR rates, yes.Are you asking for proof that smokers use the health care system?
Will smoking be considered a pre-existing condition under the ACA?
How do you think insurance rates are developed? By the cost of care plus profit, and smokers have more disease than do non smokers. Do you doubt that too?
How do you think insurance rates are developed? By the cost of care plus profit, and smokers have more disease than do non smokers. Do you doubt that too?
In such a way that it raises YOUR rates, yes.
I pay the same as everyone else I work with.
I only pay copays.
My employer pays 100% of my premiums and my company has an ACA waiver
How do you think insurance rates are developed? By the cost of care plus profit, and smokers have more disease than do non smokers. Do you doubt that too?
So...why do I have to fund people with genetic illnesses?
Look...it's a very slippery slope once we start playing the exclusion game. Why do I have to fund folks that are obese? Hell, obesity is more widespread than smoking anymore.
Far as I know it's a single group rateI pay the same as everyone else I work with.
I only pay copays.
My employer pays 100% of my premiums and my company has an ACA waiver
Does he pay higher premiums for his smoking employees?
I had no idea that genetic illnesses were a choice people made.