Obamacare Economy: 7 Years, 16 million Jobs Created, Middle Class Incomes Up $3K

[Faun]

Even the NBER is laughing at your ignorance. They say there was no recession when either Reagan or Bush became president...

http://www.nber.org/cycles.html

What part of "they had recessions handed to them" didn't you understand?

As you were shown by NBER, neither one was handed a recession.

The recession that began in March 2001 wasn't handed to Bush? Tell me more!

Bush started in January, 2001. Which came first that year, January or March? Thanks in advance.

He must have done a lot of bad stuff to cause a recession within 2 months.

Got a list?
Thanks in advance.

Since 9.11 was a possible factor in determining there even was a recession, it's more than two months worth of data contributing to that assessment.

 

[Faun]

You said he "started" using it only after the ARRA to deceive Americans.

You now admit that's bullshit as he used it before ARRA as well.

Every bleat of yours in between proves to be complete bullshit.

Now where's that apology?

I said he started using it as an economic statistic after the stimulus cratered. Duh?

Actually, you said he "invented" it. Of course, that was before you went into contortions after you were shown the Bush administration did it before him.

Actually, you've attempted to use who invented the phrase as a diversion from who used the phrase to deceive the American public. The Obama Administration used "Jobs created or saved" as the means to hide how badly they misused 880 billion dollars in stimulus monies! You're doing contortions to point fingers everywhere BUT at Obama because you don't want to admit the obvious!

You're lying again. I pointed to the Bush administration to demonstrate for the forum that you're full of shit.

Putting up a picture of that banner simply underscores what a blinders wearing liberal shill you are, Faun! That banner was on a ship returning home after taking part in the successful invasion of Iraq. Their mission WAS accomplished!

As was my mission in Demonstrating what a liar you are.

 

[GoDemocratic]

Obamacare economy? LOL. These boys are chanting theology now. The gdp sucked for 8 years. Fail.

Bro -- every recession and depression we ever had was presided over by a GOP president starting with Herbert Hoover in 1929. What happens is this, the GOP, if they get
into power, remove all the stops that slows down the economy, like Dodd-Frank, EPA regs, tax breaks for 1%, etc. And the economy responds by tying a rocket to its body
and goes straight up and then crashes in about 6-7 years. The only GOP President that did not have a recession was Reagan, but if you were alive then, you might remember 18.5% interest rates and Volker increased the interest rate a full 1% to try to pull back the inflation. It wasn't until Clinton came in that it settled down a little. My message is this:
you are better off with an economy that grows at 2.5% than one that grows at a higher rate. The 2-2/1/2 % growth of the Democrats produces a much stronger economy that lasts. .

Why go back only to Hoover? The fact is, there's been a recession under almost every single Republican president.

There are only two exceptions ... One was James Garfield, who served only six months as president; and the other is Donald Trump, who's been president for only 3½ months (so far). Neither having had enough time in office to send us spiraling into recession like every other Republican president.

Yeah, and trash out the environment in the process, then, when the recession comes, the government will be broke due to too many tax breaks.

 

[IcebergSlim]

You rightards are truly fucking nuts.

There's a law that requires the Department of Health & Human Services to take custody and to provide care for such kids....

WILLIAM WILBERFORCE TRAFFICKING VICTIMS PROTECTION REAUTHORIZATION ACT OF 2008

Who was president in 2008?

You fuck tard who sent those illegals kids a god damn Hallmark card?



Ice burg fag wants the world to believe that the Messiah lowered the illegal rate, hoping no one brings up the onslaught of children.

You're blaming Obama for following the law??

Where's your outrage at Bush for signing that into law?

Still trying to play ignorant on his dream act and the invasion that followed?




Carry on




.

The Dream Act applied exclusively to immigrants who had been in the US, without leaving, for the 5 years prior to the proposal.

If anything triggered the "invasion" which kept you sleeping with the dust bunnies, it was domestic events in central american countries....

Then why did they come alone?


Who are you trying to bull shit?



It was an Obama Hallmark card


.

Why did Mexicans stop coming?

Did they not get the Hallmark card?

Was there no one to translate Obama's message from Spanish to Mexican?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What part of "they had recessions handed to them" didn't you understand?

As you were shown by NBER, neither one was handed a recession.

The recession that began in March 2001 wasn't handed to Bush? Tell me more!

Bush started in January, 2001. Which came first that year, January or March? Thanks in advance.

He must have done a lot of bad stuff to cause a recession within 2 months.

Got a list?
Thanks in advance.

A lot of people are old enough to have heard the Supply Side Idiocy pitch before....and remembered the consequences.

You feel Bush caused a recession that wouldn't otherwise have occurred by proposing tax cuts that hadn't passed or gone into effect?

 

[bripat9643]

Nope, nearly all started during the Republican presidents' terms. And neither Reagan nor Bush inherited one. Both had recessions start under their respective terms.

ROFL, The collapse of the tech bubble started during the Clinton administration. That fact is irrefutable. Lib douche bags like you were gloating that the decline of the stock market during the last months of the Clinton administration were supposedly the result of the election recount.

Interest rates went to 22% during the Carter administration. Bringing those down caused the economy to go into a recession. That is the inevitable result of credit inflation.

Even the NBER is laughing at your ignorance. They say there was no recession when either Reagan or Bush became president...

http://www.nber.org/cycles.html

What part of "they had recessions handed to them" didn't you understand?

As you were shown by NBER, neither one was handed a recession.

The recession that began in March 2001 wasn't handed to Bush? Tell me more!

It must have been Bush's first budget that caused it . . . . . er, no, that's not right.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Obamacare economy? LOL. These boys are chanting theology now. The gdp sucked for 8 years. Fail.

Yes, that is why Hillary was so overwhelmingly elected.....

Oh..wait.....

 

[bripat9643]

What part of "they had recessions handed to them" didn't you understand?

As you were shown by NBER, neither one was handed a recession.

The recession that began in March 2001 wasn't handed to Bush? Tell me more!

Bush started in January, 2001. Which came first that year, January or March? Thanks in advance.

He must have done a lot of bad stuff to cause a recession within 2 months.

Got a list?
Thanks in advance.

A lot of people are old enough to have heard the Supply Side Idiocy pitch before....and remembered the consequences.

What "supply side" policies were in place in March of 2001?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

We now have 7 full years of economic data since President Obama signed the Affordable Care Act (ACA or “Obamacare”). So, as Republicans in Washington continue their relentless assault on the ACA, it’s a good time to take stock of how America actually fared in the Obamacare Economy.

Before turning to the facts, a reminder of the narrative that the GOP has been pushing about the ACA for so long:

“It will bankrupt our nation, and it will ruin our economy! … This health care law … is already destroying jobs in our country.” — John Boehner, 2011

“We now know that Obamacare has been one of the single biggest drags on job creation since early 2010.” — Mitch McConnell, 2012

“[T]his is going to blow a hole through the deficit even more than we had already thought.” — Paul Ryan, 2012

“Obamacare is directly responsible for destroying jobs and lowering wages for workers” — Senate Republican Policy Committee, 2014

“It is the biggest job-killer in this country.” — Ted Cruz, 2016

“Obamacare is devastating businesses." — Donald Trump, 2016

“Obamacare … this disastrous policy that's been killing jobs." — Mike Pence, 2016

Let’s tackle these false “job-killing, wage-reducing, deficit-busting” myths one by one:

The Obamacare Economy: 7 Years, 16 Million Jobs Created, Middle-Class Incomes Up $3K

Republicans again prove they are utterly ignorant of economics. Barack Obama pulled the US and indeed the world out of The Bush Great Recession.

Yes, Obama pulled us out.....hahahahahha....

By creating policies that slowed the recovery down making it the longest in history.

hahahahahahahaha....

To much.

 

[bripat9643]

Obamacare economy? LOL. These boys are chanting theology now. The gdp sucked for 8 years. Fail.

Bro -- every recession and depression we ever had was presided over by a GOP president starting with Herbert Hoover in 1929. What happens is this, the GOP, if they get
into power, remove all the stops that slows down the economy, like Dodd-Frank, EPA regs, tax breaks for 1%, etc. And the economy responds by tying a rocket to its body
and goes straight up and then crashes in about 6-7 years. The only GOP President that did not have a recession was Reagan, but if you were alive then, you might remember 18.5% interest rates and Volker increased the interest rate a full 1% to try to pull back the inflation. It wasn't until Clinton came in that it settled down a little. My message is this:
you are better off with an economy that grows at 2.5% than one that grows at a higher rate. The 2-2/1/2 % growth of the Democrats produces a much stronger economy that lasts. .

Why go back only to Hoover? The fact is, there's been a recession under almost every single Republican president.

There are only two exceptions ... One was James Garfield, who served only six months as president; and the other is Donald Trump, who's been president for only 3½ months (so far). Neither having had enough time in office to send us spiraling into recession like every other Republican president.

Yeah, and trash out the environment in the process, then, when the recession comes, the government will be broke due to too many tax breaks.

I've got news for you, moron, the government has been broke for decades.

 

[basquebromance]

If congress shared in the same healthcare we give our veterans, maybe they'd get off their asses and do something to fix it.

 

[IcebergSlim]

As you were shown by NBER, neither one was handed a recession.

The recession that began in March 2001 wasn't handed to Bush? Tell me more!

Bush started in January, 2001. Which came first that year, January or March? Thanks in advance.

He must have done a lot of bad stuff to cause a recession within 2 months.

Got a list?
Thanks in advance.

A lot of people are old enough to have heard the Supply Side Idiocy pitch before....and remembered the consequences.

What "supply side" policies were in place in March of 2001?

Buy on the rumor, sell on the news, Rube.....

 

[IcebergSlim]

We now have 7 full years of economic data since President Obama signed the Affordable Care Act (ACA or “Obamacare”). So, as Republicans in Washington continue their relentless assault on the ACA, it’s a good time to take stock of how America actually fared in the Obamacare Economy.

Before turning to the facts, a reminder of the narrative that the GOP has been pushing about the ACA for so long:

“It will bankrupt our nation, and it will ruin our economy! … This health care law … is already destroying jobs in our country.” — John Boehner, 2011

“We now know that Obamacare has been one of the single biggest drags on job creation since early 2010.” — Mitch McConnell, 2012

“[T]his is going to blow a hole through the deficit even more than we had already thought.” — Paul Ryan, 2012

“Obamacare is directly responsible for destroying jobs and lowering wages for workers” — Senate Republican Policy Committee, 2014

“It is the biggest job-killer in this country.” — Ted Cruz, 2016

“Obamacare is devastating businesses." — Donald Trump, 2016

“Obamacare … this disastrous policy that's been killing jobs." — Mike Pence, 2016

Let’s tackle these false “job-killing, wage-reducing, deficit-busting” myths one by one:

The Obamacare Economy: 7 Years, 16 Million Jobs Created, Middle-Class Incomes Up $3K

Republicans again prove they are utterly ignorant of economics. Barack Obama pulled the US and indeed the world out of The Bush Great Recession.

Yes, Obama pulled us out.....hahahahahha....

By creating policies that slowed the recovery down making it the longest in history.

hahahahahahahaha....

To much.

Wait....


Are you saying that a long recovery is a "bad" thing?

Do you know what follows?


Seriously.....all you f.....ing pinheads who comment on the economy - you don't appear to know the first fucking thing about it....

 

[bripat9643]

The recession that began in March 2001 wasn't handed to Bush? Tell me more!

Bush started in January, 2001. Which came first that year, January or March? Thanks in advance.

He must have done a lot of bad stuff to cause a recession within 2 months.

Got a list?
Thanks in advance.

A lot of people are old enough to have heard the Supply Side Idiocy pitch before....and remembered the consequences.

What "supply side" policies were in place in March of 2001?

Buy on the rumor, sell on the news, Rube.....

Is that supposed to mean something?

 

[IcebergSlim]

Obamacare economy? LOL. These boys are chanting theology now. The gdp sucked for 8 years. Fail.

Yes, that is why Hillary was so overwhelmingly elected.....

Oh..wait.....

Post the popular vote totals....

 

[IcebergSlim]

Bush started in January, 2001. Which came first that year, January or March? Thanks in advance.

He must have done a lot of bad stuff to cause a recession within 2 months.

Got a list?
Thanks in advance.

A lot of people are old enough to have heard the Supply Side Idiocy pitch before....and remembered the consequences.

What "supply side" policies were in place in March of 2001?

Buy on the rumor, sell on the news, Rube.....

Is that supposed to mean something?

Not to you, Bri........but then, what does?

 

[bripat9643]

He must have done a lot of bad stuff to cause a recession within 2 months.

Got a list?
Thanks in advance.

A lot of people are old enough to have heard the Supply Side Idiocy pitch before....and remembered the consequences.

What "supply side" policies were in place in March of 2001?

Buy on the rumor, sell on the news, Rube.....

Is that supposed to mean something?

Not to you, Bri........but then, what does?

Facts and logic mean something to me, not leftwing bullshit.

 

[IcebergSlim]

A lot of people are old enough to have heard the Supply Side Idiocy pitch before....and remembered the consequences.

What "supply side" policies were in place in March of 2001?

Buy on the rumor, sell on the news, Rube.....

Is that supposed to mean something?

Not to you, Bri........but then, what does?

Facts and logic mean something to me, not leftwing bullshit.

You're a liar, Bri......I'm familiar with your work.....

 

[Oldstyle]

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/sites/default/files/docs/cea_arra_report.pdf

It's amazing. In the report BEFORE the stimulus, they mention job creation 51 times! In the report summarizing the stimulus they mention job creation twice and both times it's paired with jobs saved! Gee, think they were trying to polish a turd at that point?

You're an idiot....

One of the problems ARRA addressed was the cratering of state and local economies...these entities were unable to pay "essential personnel" police, firefighters, teachers....

ARRA provided funds to SAVE those jobs and communities...

This informed the Useful Idiots' bleat of "giveawayto dem constituencies"...

ARRA is credited with reversing the course of the Great Recession........by the conservative economist at AEI.....and sane observers everywhere...

Where you find most resistance to this Reality is among Unrepentant 2 Time Scrub Voting Imbeciles..

Are you one of those?

No, Slim...I'm a realist. I look at what the ARRA actually did and the affect that it had on job creation. As you can plainly see from the before report and after reports coming from the White House economists...something profound happened between the time when they were trumpeting the job creation aspects of the ARRA before it began and the time they summarized the ARRA years later...and that something profound was that they failed to create the jobs they said they would!

Now are you one of those "imbeciles" who can't read between the lines of that final report and see that it's them trying desperately to put a good face on a largely unsuccessful program?

In "reading between the lines" isn't it prohibitively likely that you will play Useful Idiot to the toxic mix of your ignorance and uninformed bias?

Why would your "stylings" trump the consensus of government, academic and private sector economists who are privileging, not their butthurt over seeing a black man repair the damage you eagerly enabled, but the actual numbers?

You don't even know where to begin looking for them......which explains your Narrative dependent rhetorical style.

That may be the stupidest response to a post I've seen in quite some time, Slim! Did ANY of that make sense while you were typing it?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Obamacare economy? LOL. These boys are chanting theology now. The gdp sucked for 8 years. Fail.

Yes, that is why Hillary was so overwhelmingly elected.....

Oh..wait.....

Post the popular vote totals....

In which countries does that matter?