Charles_Main
AR15 Owner
Not as long as they are illegal IMO. If you make them get everything a legal citizen would get. What is the point of having citizenship in the first place.
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Not as long as they are illegal IMO. If you make them get everything a legal citizen would get. What is the point of having citizenship in the first place.
And who's hiring all these illegals?
Good, honest, hard-working Conservative businessmen, that's who.
exactly....maybe the righties on here would agree that we should deport all illegal immigrants and imprison any and every employer who hires them?
Bazinga, that's exactly what should happen. Throw in a hefty fine for the employers to boot.
Why is Obama above the law?
Liberal minds always think they're above the law. It's the ME, ME, ME mentality!
I wonder if the righties ever really stop to think what would happen to our economy if all the illegal immigrants were to be suddenly whisked away south of the border and not allowed back in again?
what? they don't take jobs away from the 10% who are unemployed? what an asswipe.
maybe you don't understand, but I know very few people who would tell their general contractor" "Listen... I realize that the labor costs for my new home will be nearly double and I will be unable to afford the home my wife and I really want, I want you to only use natural born American citizens in your labor force and we'll be fine with a two bedroom bath and a half home instead of the three bedroom two and a half bath home that we have dreamed about".I wonder if the righties ever really stop to think what would happen to our economy if all the illegal immigrants were to be suddenly whisked away south of the border and not allowed back in again?
15 million jobs would become available for Americans who didn't break the law getting here, and don't dare even try to start with that they only do jobs we don't want to BS. I work in construction and that is a bold faced lie. They are taking all sorts of jobs that not only are Americans willing to do, but before illegals starting doing them so cheap you could actually make pretty good money doing them. Hell in roofing alone when I was in Florida I watched the average pay go from 165 dollars a square to less than 80 do to so many illegals willing to do the work for dirt cheap.
So with all due respect, which may be none, fuck you and your we need them who cares if they ignore our laws attitude. They can get in line and come here legally if they want in. If you don't like how many are allowed to come in change the law to allow more, but please lets stop supporting the blatant ignoring of our laws.
And prices spiking up dramatically.
In most cases that isn't true either.
Do you people really not understand how the illegal hiring works? Most legit companies are NOT hiring undocumented aliens. They are hiring illegals with fake documentation. Again I will use Tyson Foods as an example. They won't hire you if you don't have the mandated ID. So illegals obtain fakes, but they are paid the same rate as the white people working at the company because the company does not have a reduced illegal alien pay scale.
Sure there are a few mom and pop type operations hiring known illegals and some jobs that hire day laborers , but by and large the problem is illegal workers with bogus paperwork.
ok. let's say you are correct, and MOST of the illegal aliens are working with stolen identities.
1- Do those citizens whose identities have been stolen and utilized, get the ''credit'' for the added income that shows on their SS statement from the income the illegal made and get to draw much more in SS when they go to retire because of this added income? IF not, please explain.
2- Do the illegals using stolen identities year after year FILE their income taxes each year? And IF they do, how could the IRS not ''catch'' such? same person in 2 different states filing under the same SS number type thing.... Please be specific.
3- Also, IF this is true, does it not make the ''argument'' of, ''the illegals are sucking off our system, without paying taxes'' moot?
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exactly....maybe the righties on here would agree that we should deport all illegal immigrants and imprison any and every employer who hires them?
Because a Demo-boob can't own a businessAnd who's hiring all these illegals?
Good, honest, hard-working Conservative businessmen, that's who.
Enlighten me, Cmdr.I wonder if the righties ever really stop to think what would happen to our economy if all the illegal immigrants were to be suddenly whisked away south of the border and not allowed back in again?
Enlighten me, Cmdr.I wonder if the righties ever really stop to think what would happen to our economy if all the illegal immigrants were to be suddenly whisked away south of the border and not allowed back in again?
What would happen?
How could I have known this tired argument would be used.Enlighten me, Cmdr.I wonder if the righties ever really stop to think what would happen to our economy if all the illegal immigrants were to be suddenly whisked away south of the border and not allowed back in again?
What would happen?
are you ready to take out a second mortage to get that head of lettuce? who do you think will wash the dishes at your favorite restaurant? who will, in all likelihood, cook the food there as well? who will clean your room at the hotel before you check in? who will mow the lawns surrounding the office buildings in your town? who will put the roof on your old house, or build your new one? Are you really ready to pay the incremental cost of labor that will increase geometrically if employers are forced to pay minimum wage plus benefits for all the goods and services that come to market today without that cost component?
As I try to point out, everytime someone cringes at the thought of deporting illegals, there are many able-bodied Americans that can and DO these jobs already.
Our UE rate is out of control. You'd be surprised at how many Americans would take the jobs left by the evicted aliens.
As I try to point out, everytime someone cringes at the thought of deporting illegals, there are many able-bodied Americans that can and DO these jobs already.
Our UE rate is out of control. You'd be surprised at how many Americans would take the jobs left by the evicted aliens.
I would be surprised if you could back up that opinion of yours with any facts. In my last profession prior to my complete retirement earlier this month, I had the occasion to work with MANY chronically unemployed citizens. Not many of them that I came in contact with would be willing to do the work that illegal immigrants do for the substandard wages they do them for.
Like I said... let's DO deport all of the illegal immigrants and see what happens to the economy... and let's put every employer that had hired them behind bars for a decade or so... how'd that work for ya?
As I try to point out, everytime someone cringes at the thought of deporting illegals, there are many able-bodied Americans that can and DO these jobs already.
Our UE rate is out of control. You'd be surprised at how many Americans would take the jobs left by the evicted aliens.
I would be surprised if you could back up that opinion of yours with any facts. In my last profession prior to my complete retirement earlier this month, I had the occasion to work with MANY chronically unemployed citizens. Not many of them that I came in contact with would be willing to do the work that illegal immigrants do for the substandard wages they do them for.
Like I said... let's DO deport all of the illegal immigrants and see what happens to the economy... and let's put every employer that had hired them behind bars for a decade or so... how'd that work for ya?
You're being ridiculous. Yes there are many jobs that many Americans don't want to do, and yes some industries would have to raise wages and thus prices, but there would be an upper limit. For instance, lettuce isn't going to jump to $10 a head.
Your idea of 10 year prison sentences is laughable, how about just fine the piss out of them.
I would be surprised if you could back up that opinion of yours with any facts. In my last profession prior to my complete retirement earlier this month, I had the occasion to work with MANY chronically unemployed citizens. Not many of them that I came in contact with would be willing to do the work that illegal immigrants do for the substandard wages they do them for.
Like I said... let's DO deport all of the illegal immigrants and see what happens to the economy... and let's put every employer that had hired them behind bars for a decade or so... how'd that work for ya?
You're being ridiculous. Yes there are many jobs that many Americans don't want to do, and yes some industries would have to raise wages and thus prices, but there would be an upper limit. For instance, lettuce isn't going to jump to $10 a head.
Your idea of 10 year prison sentences is laughable, how about just fine the piss out of them.
anything less than hard time is laughable... they would simply write the fines off as a cost of doing business and pass them on to their customers. And your suggestion that there would be some artificial limit on the price of lettuce doesn't hold water. If the growers had to pay minimum wage and benefits to American citizens to harvest vegetables - assuming they could FIND American citizens willing to do that work for that paltry wage - the cost would be what it would be... and any upper limit would be arrived at by the laws of supply and demand.