Official USMB Mafia Game #9: Battle for Cityville

[Wolfsister77]

Obviously no PR protected Wake, either....and he was telling the truth.

Town learned a lot from the lynch and night kill.

Dunno who is the other Scum.

Waiting and watching.......

Regards from Rosie

If you were PR, would you protect wake? He was too shady and conventional wisdom said that he would be NK if not lynched.

Remember how Wolf was all gung ho about being the only person checked D2? She pushed to hard. She thought FA had a PR, thats why she wanted to lynch him....knowing she could easily NK wake without any issues. Thus the threat to quit.

Remember how she was adamant...she was not going to switch her vote...but she did? Did she do that because she didn't want to make any more waves and look suspicious...YES.

Avi is town...or else he would be on board for a flash lynch...or he wouldn't have tried to dismiss the idea.

Rosie had House pegged from DAY one...she is on the ball...good job, sweetie.

Aye is too beautiful to be scum.

You are insane and your logic makes no sense. I'm not even going to refute your idiocy right now.

FA is town.

 

[Nutz]

Vote: Nutz
Sorry nutsz, I know you advocated for me on the last day but you are now confirmed scum.

The wagon that was checked, as I recall, was Avatar, Wolf, Aye and RosieS. Assuming that there are 3 scum, that leaves one scum OFF the wagon as Avatar was saying yesterday. The players off the wagon are: Me, Nutz, Wake (confirmed town and dead) and house (confirmed scum and dead).

So only me or Nutz left.

I believe there are three scum because the power house had was not only very strong and I have a feeling that this game is VERY PR heavy but also because of House's role. As I understand it, the mafia traitor knows who the scum are BUT THEY DO NOT KNOW HE IS SCUM. That would leave the scum chat awfully empty with just 2 and also leave the scum really weak against such powerful PR roles. By default, the other 2 scum would have to have been off the wagon.

I am town. That only leaves Nutz.

I would advocate that we either lynch him or me. If you go for me then you can take care of him after I flip town unless someone can point out where my logic has gone awry.


I also note that only one town died last night. Either they both targeted house or a protective role succeeded. As far as who the scum on the wagon is, I don't know. I was leaning Avatar but he is the one that has been pushing the fact that the sensor shot did identify that there was a scum off the wagon - the very thing that has confirmed (for me at least) nutz is scum.

Bah, I am not scum. Nor do I think there are 2 others. Like I said earlier...I am thinking 1 scum, 2 scum traitors.

Would the sensor have picked up a scum traitor if the scum didn't even know?

Considering house wasn't on the wake wagon I don't know that it matters whether wake would have picked up a traitor.

Yes it does. If there were two traitors then there would be the possibility that one scum was picked up and one was not on the wagon leaving Nutz an out IF the sensor would not have picked that up. i believe there is ample evidence that is not the case though. Wake did NOT state that there was one scum on the wagon. He stated that there was one ANTI-TOWN member on the wagon. As it stands, IF you believe there are 3 scum in this game (traitors or not) then Me or Nutz MUST be one. Only one 'anti-town' member leaves all roles open to his scan except town ones.

Alright guys.

I've been told that as of 1:11pm 2/17/2015, there's only one anti-town member voting for me.

Yeah...but wake is a manipulative SOB. Plus, his wording is irrelevant. He also said he received a PM from Lulz at 1.11PM...so wording not too important.

 

[Nutz]

Obviously no PR protected Wake, either....and he was telling the truth.

Town learned a lot from the lynch and night kill.

Dunno who is the other Scum.

Waiting and watching.......

Regards from Rosie

If you were PR, would you protect wake? He was too shady and conventional wisdom said that he would be NK if not lynched.

Remember how Wolf was all gung ho about being the only person checked D2? She pushed to hard. She thought FA had a PR, thats why she wanted to lynch him....knowing she could easily NK wake without any issues. Thus the threat to quit.

Remember how she was adamant...she was not going to switch her vote...but she did? Did she do that because she didn't want to make any more waves and look suspicious...YES.

Avi is town...or else he would be on board for a flash lynch...or he wouldn't have tried to dismiss the idea.

Rosie had House pegged from DAY one...she is on the ball...good job, sweetie.

Aye is too beautiful to be scum.

You are insane and your logic makes no sense. I'm not even going to refute your idiocy right now.

FA is town.

Yet I got the scum D1. When was the last time you did that? Ever? 1 and 8?

 

[Wolfsister77]

Two people threatened to quit if they didn't get their way. House...who was scum...and wolf. Wolf didn't want to lynch wake because she knew she was going to NK him. Sorry Wolf...luv ya...but you are scummy to me.


Now, is it my understanding...scum would not have known House was mafia traitor? Could there be only one scum and 2 mafia traitors...why wake had such a powerful role?

Oh...After the 23rd...I will be in the field...I do not know if I will have internet access or how often I will be able to post. Nor do I know how long I will be gone. Let's go ahead and lynch wolf and get this settled by the 23rd. Trust me...she is scum.

You lynch me, you are lynching town. I threaten to quit every game and that is not an alignment tell. House has threatened to quit also. Not an alignment tell. I find the fact that you want to quicklynch me before I can speak to be extremely scummy. You didn't believe Wake. You wanted him dead before he could use his ability again. I didn't want to lynch Wake because he was a claimed PR. You wanting to lynch him before we could find out is scummy as shit. You need to go. Today.

My usual response to you...meh, whatever. I am town. We can continue with the logic of 1 and 8 or listen to a winner.

Your logic was to try to lynch Wake before we could even test his claim. Your way of saving town was to lynch a claimed PR. You are now trying to quicklynch me who is town and it would incredibly stupid to do that now. I

You have no logic, no rhyme or reason to your thinking. You live up to your user name well.

 

[Avatar4321]

Obviously no PR protected Wake, either....and he was telling the truth.

Town learned a lot from the lynch and night kill.

Dunno who is the other Scum.

Waiting and watching.......

Regards from Rosie

If you were PR, would you protect wake? He was too shady and conventional wisdom said that he would be NK if not lynched.

Remember how Wolf was all gung ho about being the only person checked D2? She pushed to hard. She thought FA had a PR, thats why she wanted to lynch him....knowing she could easily NK wake without any issues. Thus the threat to quit.

Remember how she was adamant...she was not going to switch her vote...but she did? Did she do that because she didn't want to make any more waves and look suspicious...YES.

Avi is town...or else he would be on board for a flash lynch...or he wouldn't have tried to dismiss the idea.

Rosie had House pegged from DAY one...she is on the ball...good job, sweetie.

Aye is too beautiful to be scum.

You are insane and your logic makes no sense. I'm not even going to refute your idiocy right now.

FA is town.

Yet I got the scum D1. When was the last time you did that? Ever? 1 and 8?

Our first game. We got his partner in a blog day 1 too

 

[Avatar4321]

That was supposed to say night kill but I'm not sure why it changed to blog

 

[Wolfsister77]

Obviously no PR protected Wake, either....and he was telling the truth.

Town learned a lot from the lynch and night kill.

Dunno who is the other Scum.

Waiting and watching.......

Regards from Rosie

If you were PR, would you protect wake? He was too shady and conventional wisdom said that he would be NK if not lynched.

Remember how Wolf was all gung ho about being the only person checked D2? She pushed to hard. She thought FA had a PR, thats why she wanted to lynch him....knowing she could easily NK wake without any issues. Thus the threat to quit.

Remember how she was adamant...she was not going to switch her vote...but she did? Did she do that because she didn't want to make any more waves and look suspicious...YES.

Avi is town...or else he would be on board for a flash lynch...or he wouldn't have tried to dismiss the idea.

Rosie had House pegged from DAY one...she is on the ball...good job, sweetie.

Aye is too beautiful to be scum.

You are insane and your logic makes no sense. I'm not even going to refute your idiocy right now.

FA is town.

Yet I got the scum D1. When was the last time you did that? Ever? 1 and 8?

You weren't up for a House lynch. You wanted Wake or a NL. A LOSING strategy for town. You only went with a compromise because as you said many times-it was for ME because I didn't want a NL. So yeah, you didn't do shit. And it isn't 1 for 8 as I keep telling you and you refuse to listen-town won games 5 and 6 and game 7 wasn't a mafia game.

If I didn't think it would be so harmful, I'd let you lynch me so town can turbolynch you when I flip for being so damn wrong on Wake and myself.

 

[Nutz]

Two people threatened to quit if they didn't get their way. House...who was scum...and wolf. Wolf didn't want to lynch wake because she knew she was going to NK him. Sorry Wolf...luv ya...but you are scummy to me.


Now, is it my understanding...scum would not have known House was mafia traitor? Could there be only one scum and 2 mafia traitors...why wake had such a powerful role?

Oh...After the 23rd...I will be in the field...I do not know if I will have internet access or how often I will be able to post. Nor do I know how long I will be gone. Let's go ahead and lynch wolf and get this settled by the 23rd. Trust me...she is scum.

You lynch me, you are lynching town. I threaten to quit every game and that is not an alignment tell. House has threatened to quit also. Not an alignment tell. I find the fact that you want to quicklynch me before I can speak to be extremely scummy. You didn't believe Wake. You wanted him dead before he could use his ability again. I didn't want to lynch Wake because he was a claimed PR. You wanting to lynch him before we could find out is scummy as shit. You need to go. Today.

My usual response to you...meh, whatever. I am town. We can continue with the logic of 1 and 8 or listen to a winner.

Your logic was to try to lynch Wake before we could even test his claim. Your way of saving town was to lynch a claimed PR. You are now trying to quicklynch me who is town and it would incredibly stupid to do that now. I

You have no logic, no rhyme or reason to your thinking. You live up to your user name well.

No...I wanted house...but I knew you were under his spell. I had to take the long way around to convince you.

 

[Nutz]

Obviously no PR protected Wake, either....and he was telling the truth.

Town learned a lot from the lynch and night kill.

Dunno who is the other Scum.

Waiting and watching.......

Regards from Rosie

If you were PR, would you protect wake? He was too shady and conventional wisdom said that he would be NK if not lynched.

Remember how Wolf was all gung ho about being the only person checked D2? She pushed to hard. She thought FA had a PR, thats why she wanted to lynch him....knowing she could easily NK wake without any issues. Thus the threat to quit.

Remember how she was adamant...she was not going to switch her vote...but she did? Did she do that because she didn't want to make any more waves and look suspicious...YES.

Avi is town...or else he would be on board for a flash lynch...or he wouldn't have tried to dismiss the idea.

Rosie had House pegged from DAY one...she is on the ball...good job, sweetie.

Aye is too beautiful to be scum.

You are insane and your logic makes no sense. I'm not even going to refute your idiocy right now.

FA is town.

Yet I got the scum D1. When was the last time you did that? Ever? 1 and 8?

You weren't up for a House lynch. You wanted Wake or a NL. A LOSING strategy for town. You only went with a compromise because as you said many times-it was for ME because I didn't want a NL. So yeah, you didn't do shit. And it isn't 1 for 8 as I keep telling you and you refuse to listen-town won games 5 and 6 and game 7 wasn't a mafia game.

If I didn't think it would be so harmful, I'd let you lynch me so town can turbolynch you when I flip for being so damn wrong on Wake and myself.

Go back and look...I wanted house and figured WAKE would be NK'd. You weren't listening to anyone...I had to go full circle to get what I wanted.

 

[FA_Q2]

Vote: Nutz
Sorry nutsz, I know you advocated for me on the last day but you are now confirmed scum.

The wagon that was checked, as I recall, was Avatar, Wolf, Aye and RosieS. Assuming that there are 3 scum, that leaves one scum OFF the wagon as Avatar was saying yesterday. The players off the wagon are: Me, Nutz, Wake (confirmed town and dead) and house (confirmed scum and dead).

So only me or Nutz left.

I believe there are three scum because the power house had was not only very strong and I have a feeling that this game is VERY PR heavy but also because of House's role. As I understand it, the mafia traitor knows who the scum are BUT THEY DO NOT KNOW HE IS SCUM. That would leave the scum chat awfully empty with just 2 and also leave the scum really weak against such powerful PR roles. By default, the other 2 scum would have to have been off the wagon.

I am town. That only leaves Nutz.

I would advocate that we either lynch him or me. If you go for me then you can take care of him after I flip town unless someone can point out where my logic has gone awry.


I also note that only one town died last night. Either they both targeted house or a protective role succeeded. As far as who the scum on the wagon is, I don't know. I was leaning Avatar but he is the one that has been pushing the fact that the sensor shot did identify that there was a scum off the wagon - the very thing that has confirmed (for me at least) nutz is scum.

You mean wake, not house right? Why would two target if there is one group of scum? Or are you suggesting a third party?

Interesting thought. The assumption is that nutz is scum but didn't know that house is a traitor. That's my understanding of the traitor role but who knows if we have some sort of variant or modified traitor?

'Doh - there I go again mixing up those names. Yes, I meant they might have both targeted wake.

Two would target because that information could not be communicated. House had no communication with the scum team if I understand the role of mafia traitor. The scum would not have known who house targeted and he would not have known who they were going to target.

Either that or someone blocked the mafia kill and the house kill went through without town having any protective roles. I doubt that a doc or jail keeper would have targeted anyone else. Though there is the mod point about not targeting ones self - as though someone tried???

 

[Wolfsister77]

Vote: Nutz
Sorry nutsz, I know you advocated for me on the last day but you are now confirmed scum.

The wagon that was checked, as I recall, was Avatar, Wolf, Aye and RosieS. Assuming that there are 3 scum, that leaves one scum OFF the wagon as Avatar was saying yesterday. The players off the wagon are: Me, Nutz, Wake (confirmed town and dead) and house (confirmed scum and dead).

So only me or Nutz left.

I believe there are three scum because the power house had was not only very strong and I have a feeling that this game is VERY PR heavy but also because of House's role. As I understand it, the mafia traitor knows who the scum are BUT THEY DO NOT KNOW HE IS SCUM. That would leave the scum chat awfully empty with just 2 and also leave the scum really weak against such powerful PR roles. By default, the other 2 scum would have to have been off the wagon.

I am town. That only leaves Nutz.

I would advocate that we either lynch him or me. If you go for me then you can take care of him after I flip town unless someone can point out where my logic has gone awry.


I also note that only one town died last night. Either they both targeted house or a protective role succeeded. As far as who the scum on the wagon is, I don't know. I was leaning Avatar but he is the one that has been pushing the fact that the sensor shot did identify that there was a scum off the wagon - the very thing that has confirmed (for me at least) nutz is scum.

Bah, I am not scum. Nor do I think there are 2 others. Like I said earlier...I am thinking 1 scum, 2 scum traitors.

Would the sensor have picked up a scum traitor if the scum didn't even know?

Considering house wasn't on the wake wagon I don't know that it matters whether wake would have picked up a traitor.

It matter because I am thinking there is only 1 scum and 2 traitors. Another reason why wolf wasn't afraid to be checked.

Which means the 1 scum is from the Wake wagon.

I wasn't afraid to be checked because I am town and I didn't want to listen to your BS calling me scum over and over and now I have to put up with your crap.

 

[Wolfsister77]

Obviously no PR protected Wake, either....and he was telling the truth.

Town learned a lot from the lynch and night kill.

Dunno who is the other Scum.

Waiting and watching.......

Regards from Rosie

If you were PR, would you protect wake? He was too shady and conventional wisdom said that he would be NK if not lynched.

Remember how Wolf was all gung ho about being the only person checked D2? She pushed to hard. She thought FA had a PR, thats why she wanted to lynch him....knowing she could easily NK wake without any issues. Thus the threat to quit.

Remember how she was adamant...she was not going to switch her vote...but she did? Did she do that because she didn't want to make any more waves and look suspicious...YES.

Avi is town...or else he would be on board for a flash lynch...or he wouldn't have tried to dismiss the idea.

Rosie had House pegged from DAY one...she is on the ball...good job, sweetie.

Aye is too beautiful to be scum.

You are being ridiculous. I wanted to be checked because it would help a lot to have a confirmed town in this game. Where on Earth did you the ridiculous idea I wanted to lynch FA because I thought he had a PR. No, that was YOU with Wake. FA was the largest wagon and I didn't want a NL which is terrible play for town.

 

[Wolfsister77]

Vote: Nutz
Sorry nutsz, I know you advocated for me on the last day but you are now confirmed scum.

The wagon that was checked, as I recall, was Avatar, Wolf, Aye and RosieS. Assuming that there are 3 scum, that leaves one scum OFF the wagon as Avatar was saying yesterday. The players off the wagon are: Me, Nutz, Wake (confirmed town and dead) and house (confirmed scum and dead).

So only me or Nutz left.

I believe there are three scum because the power house had was not only very strong and I have a feeling that this game is VERY PR heavy but also because of House's role. As I understand it, the mafia traitor knows who the scum are BUT THEY DO NOT KNOW HE IS SCUM. That would leave the scum chat awfully empty with just 2 and also leave the scum really weak against such powerful PR roles. By default, the other 2 scum would have to have been off the wagon.

I am town. That only leaves Nutz.

I would advocate that we either lynch him or me. If you go for me then you can take care of him after I flip town unless someone can point out where my logic has gone awry.


I also note that only one town died last night. Either they both targeted house or a protective role succeeded. As far as who the scum on the wagon is, I don't know. I was leaning Avatar but he is the one that has been pushing the fact that the sensor shot did identify that there was a scum off the wagon - the very thing that has confirmed (for me at least) nutz is scum.

Bah, I am not scum. Nor do I think there are 2 others. Like I said earlier...I am thinking 1 scum, 2 scum traitors.

Would the sensor have picked up a scum traitor if the scum didn't even know?

Yes. Wake was specific: There was only one NON TOWN ALIGNED player on the wagon.

That doesn't mean anything if the sensor can't see traitor scum. If scum can't see it, I don't see how a sensor would see it.

If scum doesn't know who the traitor is, that has nothing whatsoever to do with how the sensor would pick them up. The sensor picks up NON TOWN ALIGNED players which includes mafia traitors.

 

[Wolfsister77]

Again...if Scum wouldn't know a traitor scum...would a sensor? 1 scum...2 traitor scum. Best way to make this game work with 8 people and such a power role.

I have no idea. But I'm guessing the set up would prob be two scum and one traitor. I think it's unlikely for a one scum game to start with.

Why? 1 scum, two traitors makes more sense in a small game. It actually makes it more interesting because the scum is just as confused.

There would never be more than one traitor in a mafia game.

 

[FA_Q2]

Vote: Nutz
Sorry nutsz, I know you advocated for me on the last day but you are now confirmed scum.

The wagon that was checked, as I recall, was Avatar, Wolf, Aye and RosieS. Assuming that there are 3 scum, that leaves one scum OFF the wagon as Avatar was saying yesterday. The players off the wagon are: Me, Nutz, Wake (confirmed town and dead) and house (confirmed scum and dead).

So only me or Nutz left.

I believe there are three scum because the power house had was not only very strong and I have a feeling that this game is VERY PR heavy but also because of House's role. As I understand it, the mafia traitor knows who the scum are BUT THEY DO NOT KNOW HE IS SCUM. That would leave the scum chat awfully empty with just 2 and also leave the scum really weak against such powerful PR roles. By default, the other 2 scum would have to have been off the wagon.

I am town. That only leaves Nutz.

I would advocate that we either lynch him or me. If you go for me then you can take care of him after I flip town unless someone can point out where my logic has gone awry.


I also note that only one town died last night. Either they both targeted house or a protective role succeeded. As far as who the scum on the wagon is, I don't know. I was leaning Avatar but he is the one that has been pushing the fact that the sensor shot did identify that there was a scum off the wagon - the very thing that has confirmed (for me at least) nutz is scum.

Bah, I am not scum. Nor do I think there are 2 others. Like I said earlier...I am thinking 1 scum, 2 scum traitors.

Would the sensor have picked up a scum traitor if the scum didn't even know?

Considering house wasn't on the wake wagon I don't know that it matters whether wake would have picked up a traitor.

Yes it does. If there were two traitors then there would be the possibility that one scum was picked up and one was not on the wagon leaving Nutz an out IF the sensor would not have picked that up. i believe there is ample evidence that is not the case though. Wake did NOT state that there was one scum on the wagon. He stated that there was one ANTI-TOWN member on the wagon. As it stands, IF you believe there are 3 scum in this game (traitors or not) then Me or Nutz MUST be one. Only one 'anti-town' member leaves all roles open to his scan except town ones.

Alright guys.

I've been told that as of 1:11pm 2/17/2015, there's only one anti-town member voting for me.

Yeah...but wake is a manipulative SOB. Plus, his wording is irrelevant. He also said he received a PM from Lulz at 1.11PM...so wording not too important.

I don't know why the time stamp is screwed up and the fact that it was is totally irrelevant as Wake has been vindicated.

Wording is VERY important. Wake is not new at mafia - he is the one that created this game on this site and brought many of us over to the mafia scum website devoted to mafia games. Terms like non-town aligned are important because it leaves open the possibility that he can detect things like SK.

He didn't use that term for shits and giggles, I would bet he used it because it was the term used in his PM. Had the PM stated mafia - he would have stated mafia.

Even more to the point - that is irrelevant anyway. Even if the ability only identified mafia players the traitors ARE mafia aligned and would have been detected.

 

[Avatar4321]

Vote: Nutz
Sorry nutsz, I know you advocated for me on the last day but you are now confirmed scum.

The wagon that was checked, as I recall, was Avatar, Wolf, Aye and RosieS. Assuming that there are 3 scum, that leaves one scum OFF the wagon as Avatar was saying yesterday. The players off the wagon are: Me, Nutz, Wake (confirmed town and dead) and house (confirmed scum and dead).

So only me or Nutz left.

I believe there are three scum because the power house had was not only very strong and I have a feeling that this game is VERY PR heavy but also because of House's role. As I understand it, the mafia traitor knows who the scum are BUT THEY DO NOT KNOW HE IS SCUM. That would leave the scum chat awfully empty with just 2 and also leave the scum really weak against such powerful PR roles. By default, the other 2 scum would have to have been off the wagon.

I am town. That only leaves Nutz.

I would advocate that we either lynch him or me. If you go for me then you can take care of him after I flip town unless someone can point out where my logic has gone awry.


I also note that only one town died last night. Either they both targeted house or a protective role succeeded. As far as who the scum on the wagon is, I don't know. I was leaning Avatar but he is the one that has been pushing the fact that the sensor shot did identify that there was a scum off the wagon - the very thing that has confirmed (for me at least) nutz is scum.

You mean wake, not house right? Why would two target if there is one group of scum? Or are you suggesting a third party?

Interesting thought. The assumption is that nutz is scum but didn't know that house is a traitor. That's my understanding of the traitor role but who knows if we have some sort of variant or modified traitor?

'Doh - there I go again mixing up those names. Yes, I meant they might have both targeted wake.

Two would target because that information could not be communicated. House had no communication with the scum team if I understand the role of mafia traitor. The scum would not have known who house targeted and he would not have known who they were going to target.

Either that or someone blocked the mafia kill and the house kill went through without town having any protective roles. I doubt that a doc or jail keeper would have targeted anyone else. Though there is the mod point about not targeting ones self - as though someone tried???

How could house kill someone while he was dead from the lynch before the night began?

 

[Nutz]

Again...if Scum wouldn't know a traitor scum...would a sensor? 1 scum...2 traitor scum. Best way to make this game work with 8 people and such a power role.

I have no idea. But I'm guessing the set up would prob be two scum and one traitor. I think it's unlikely for a one scum game to start with.

Why? 1 scum, two traitors makes more sense in a small game. It actually makes it more interesting because the scum is just as confused.

There would never be more than one traitor in a mafia game.

Someone also said that a sensor was unlikely.

 

[Nutz]

Vote: Nutz
Sorry nutsz, I know you advocated for me on the last day but you are now confirmed scum.

The wagon that was checked, as I recall, was Avatar, Wolf, Aye and RosieS. Assuming that there are 3 scum, that leaves one scum OFF the wagon as Avatar was saying yesterday. The players off the wagon are: Me, Nutz, Wake (confirmed town and dead) and house (confirmed scum and dead).

So only me or Nutz left.

I believe there are three scum because the power house had was not only very strong and I have a feeling that this game is VERY PR heavy but also because of House's role. As I understand it, the mafia traitor knows who the scum are BUT THEY DO NOT KNOW HE IS SCUM. That would leave the scum chat awfully empty with just 2 and also leave the scum really weak against such powerful PR roles. By default, the other 2 scum would have to have been off the wagon.

I am town. That only leaves Nutz.

I would advocate that we either lynch him or me. If you go for me then you can take care of him after I flip town unless someone can point out where my logic has gone awry.


I also note that only one town died last night. Either they both targeted house or a protective role succeeded. As far as who the scum on the wagon is, I don't know. I was leaning Avatar but he is the one that has been pushing the fact that the sensor shot did identify that there was a scum off the wagon - the very thing that has confirmed (for me at least) nutz is scum.

Bah, I am not scum. Nor do I think there are 2 others. Like I said earlier...I am thinking 1 scum, 2 scum traitors.

Would the sensor have picked up a scum traitor if the scum didn't even know?

Yes. Wake was specific: There was only one NON TOWN ALIGNED player on the wagon.

That doesn't mean anything if the sensor can't see traitor scum. If scum can't see it, I don't see how a sensor would see it.

If scum doesn't know who the traitor is, that has nothing whatsoever to do with how the sensor would pick them up. The sensor picks up NON TOWN ALIGNED players which includes mafia traitors.

I must have misread the wiki

 

[Avatar4321]

Again...if Scum wouldn't know a traitor scum...would a sensor? 1 scum...2 traitor scum. Best way to make this game work with 8 people and such a power role.

I have no idea. But I'm guessing the set up would prob be two scum and one traitor. I think it's unlikely for a one scum game to start with.

Why? 1 scum, two traitors makes more sense in a small game. It actually makes it more interesting because the scum is just as confused.

There would never be more than one traitor in a mafia game.

Someone also said that a sensor was unlikely.

in a game this size it was. So was mafia traitor

 

[Nutz]

And you also said there would never be 3 scum in an 8 player game.