OK, I'll admit it, our friends on the left are correct; there IS a catch to the Trump tax cuts

You prove over and over that you're just not very smart. Anything created by man can be replicated by other men. And laws against illegals are NOT aimed specifically at hispanics, they are aimed at all illegals. The first lame link you posted was about muslims and the second was a State case having nothing to do with the feds and it was long before Trump.

Now, would you like to get back on topic, it's about tax cuts.


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I don't care if they're Muslims or Mexicans or what. If they are worthy they can stay. Now pass the dam SS ID card and end it.

As for taxes, it's ridiculous to cut taxes on the rich again. The non rich need tax cuts and help. You dupes are out of your mind.

The middle class got lots of tax savings coming up, that you been duped isn’t our issue. The standard deductions went up, tax credits for the middle class went up and the percentage taxed went down, hater.
I said it is ridiculous for the rich to get big tax cuts -none of that

It’s ridiculous that you lied about what grouse said but, you are a dupe.
He never said all or none of any group. Some or many...
I am not a dupe because I do not believe any b******* hate phony propaganda. You people believe obvious lies like Obama is Kenyan Muslim evil corrupt etc etc with no evidence. Just a pile of b******* that never gets anywhere in the real world....
 
I posed it already. See: Trump. Do you want a link to his bankruptcy?

How does bankruptcy make him a deadbeat? Bankruptcies are common in business. If he was a deadbeat, he wouldn't have any bankruptcies because he just would have spent all the money he inherited.

Like a deadbeat dad who won't pay his child support, only worse. You know, a deadbeat. An idle or disreputable person. He has money, he just doesn't want to pay his debts.

Why should he use his personal money to repay debts acquired by one of his businesses? It's a perfectly legal strategy for companies or individuals who find themselves in financial trouble.
I never said it was always illegal to be a deadbeat. I just said he was a deadbeat. I consider not paying your debt when you have so much money to be a quality of a deadbeat. The fact that he may have used an entity to sign for the debt or used government-provided protection to help him avoid paying it doesn't change that.

Companies and owners are two separate entities. That's why people who have businesses incorporate.

You can't file bankruptcy unless you can prove you don't have the money to repay debts owed. It's a legal business strategy. Trump could personally have 10 billion dollars, but if one of his companies go under, it has no barring on him. His personal money is completely separate from his business money. If individuals were held responsible for the debts of their business, nobody would open up a business.
Trump A.C. casino bankruptcy cost employees millions in retirement ...
NJ.com › index.ssf › 2016/10

Oct 18, 2016 · The report cited a class-action lawsuit filed by employees against Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts after the company's 2004 bankruptcy. According to the ...
How Donald Trump Bankrupted His Atlantic City Casinos, but Still Earned ...
The New York Times › nyregion › donal...

Jun 11, 2016 · Just over a year after it opened, the Taj Mahal was in bankruptcy court, followed in 1992 by both the Plaza and the Castle. In the plan that was worked out, Mr ...
 
I can't think of any because there are no laws that specifically target hispanics. Your claim otherwise is a lie.


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Just Google Anti illegals laws deemed unconstitutional and you will find pages of this, dupe...
Why Trump's Immigration Rules Are Unconstitutional - POLITICO Magazine
Politico › magazine › story › 2017/02

Feb 1, 2017 · An executive order or law displays unconstitutional animus and thus violates the ... state constitution—deemed unconstitutional by the Supreme Court in Romer v.


Arizona SB 1070 - Wikipedia
Wikipedia › wiki › Arizona_SB_1070

In June 2012, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled on the case Arizona v. United States, upholding the provision requiring immigration status checks during law enforcement stops


You know hispanics only make up about 60% of illegals, right? The rest come from virtually every country in the world. Like I said there are no laws that specifically target hispanics, but feel free to continue your lies and I'll continue to laugh at you.


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Actually Hispanics are over 75% of illegals. And the only way to stop illegals coming in is a SSID card that can't be faked, and Republicans have blocked forever, Dupe.


You prove over and over that you're just not very smart. Anything created by man can be replicated by other men. And laws against illegals are NOT aimed specifically at hispanics, they are aimed at all illegals. The first lame link you posted was about muslims and the second was a State case having nothing to do with the feds and it was long before Trump.

Now, would you like to get back on topic, it's about tax cuts.


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I don't care if they're Muslims or Mexicans or what. If they are worthy they can stay. Now pass the dam SS ID card and end it.

As for taxes, it's ridiculous to cut taxes on the rich again. The non rich need tax cuts and help. You dupes are out of your mind.


They are not worthy, they are criminals. And everyone got a tax cut, not just the rich. Keep pushing the propaganda, it's quite entertaining.


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On average everyone that makes any money gets taxed 24 to 29% that's pretty damn flat. And please notice the poorest pay 18% and fees would kill them Sheezus. Fees are out of sight

How then is it that 47% of households pay no income tax?
 
Just Google Anti illegals laws deemed unconstitutional and you will find pages of this, dupe...
Why Trump's Immigration Rules Are Unconstitutional - POLITICO Magazine
Politico › magazine › story › 2017/02

Feb 1, 2017 · An executive order or law displays unconstitutional animus and thus violates the ... state constitution—deemed unconstitutional by the Supreme Court in Romer v.


Arizona SB 1070 - Wikipedia
Wikipedia › wiki › Arizona_SB_1070

In June 2012, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled on the case Arizona v. United States, upholding the provision requiring immigration status checks during law enforcement stops


You know hispanics only make up about 60% of illegals, right? The rest come from virtually every country in the world. Like I said there are no laws that specifically target hispanics, but feel free to continue your lies and I'll continue to laugh at you.


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Actually Hispanics are over 75% of illegals. And the only way to stop illegals coming in is a SSID card that can't be faked, and Republicans have blocked forever, Dupe.


You prove over and over that you're just not very smart. Anything created by man can be replicated by other men. And laws against illegals are NOT aimed specifically at hispanics, they are aimed at all illegals. The first lame link you posted was about muslims and the second was a State case having nothing to do with the feds and it was long before Trump.

Now, would you like to get back on topic, it's about tax cuts.


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I don't care if they're Muslims or Mexicans or what. If they are worthy they can stay. Now pass the dam SS ID card and end it.

As for taxes, it's ridiculous to cut taxes on the rich again. The non rich need tax cuts and help. You dupes are out of your mind.


They are not worthy, they are criminals. And everyone got a tax cut, not just the rich. Keep pushing the propaganda, it's quite entertaining.


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I think people in blue States aren't going to get tax cuts. And the rich are getting 4% tax cuts while the poor are getting two or 1% tax cuts. I hope he's a goddamn genius but I wouldn't hold your breath they're liars and thieves more likely...
 
How does bankruptcy make him a deadbeat? Bankruptcies are common in business. If he was a deadbeat, he wouldn't have any bankruptcies because he just would have spent all the money he inherited.

Like a deadbeat dad who won't pay his child support, only worse. You know, a deadbeat. An idle or disreputable person. He has money, he just doesn't want to pay his debts.

Why should he use his personal money to repay debts acquired by one of his businesses? It's a perfectly legal strategy for companies or individuals who find themselves in financial trouble.
I never said it was always illegal to be a deadbeat. I just said he was a deadbeat. I consider not paying your debt when you have so much money to be a quality of a deadbeat. The fact that he may have used an entity to sign for the debt or used government-provided protection to help him avoid paying it doesn't change that.

Companies and owners are two separate entities. That's why people who have businesses incorporate.

You can't file bankruptcy unless you can prove you don't have the money to repay debts owed. It's a legal business strategy. Trump could personally have 10 billion dollars, but if one of his companies go under, it has no barring on him. His personal money is completely separate from his business money. If individuals were held responsible for the debts of their business, nobody would open up a business.
Trump A.C. casino bankruptcy cost employees millions in retirement ...
NJ.com › index.ssf › 2016/10

Oct 18, 2016 · The report cited a class-action lawsuit filed by employees against Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts after the company's 2004 bankruptcy. According to the ...
How Donald Trump Bankrupted His Atlantic City Casinos, but Still Earned ...
The New York Times › nyregion › donal...

Jun 11, 2016 · Just over a year after it opened, the Taj Mahal was in bankruptcy court, followed in 1992 by both the Plaza and the Castle. In the plan that was worked out, Mr ...

Thank you for admitting that Donald Trump never declared bankruptcy. The ability to declare bankruptcy was so important to our founders that it was included in our Constitution.
 
You know hispanics only make up about 60% of illegals, right? The rest come from virtually every country in the world. Like I said there are no laws that specifically target hispanics, but feel free to continue your lies and I'll continue to laugh at you.


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Actually Hispanics are over 75% of illegals. And the only way to stop illegals coming in is a SSID card that can't be faked, and Republicans have blocked forever, Dupe.


You prove over and over that you're just not very smart. Anything created by man can be replicated by other men. And laws against illegals are NOT aimed specifically at hispanics, they are aimed at all illegals. The first lame link you posted was about muslims and the second was a State case having nothing to do with the feds and it was long before Trump.

Now, would you like to get back on topic, it's about tax cuts.


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I don't care if they're Muslims or Mexicans or what. If they are worthy they can stay. Now pass the dam SS ID card and end it.

As for taxes, it's ridiculous to cut taxes on the rich again. The non rich need tax cuts and help. You dupes are out of your mind.

The middle class got lots of tax savings coming up, that you been duped isn’t our issue. The standard deductions went up, tax credits for the middle class went up and the percentage taxed went down, hater.
I said it is ridiculous for the rich to get big tax cuts -none of that


Hey dipstick, you can't get a big tax cut unless you're paying big taxes to begin with. Your IQ seems to be dropping by the second.


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And? If he hires his kid to work for him, I guess they should be exempt from employer taxes and income taxes, too?

No, because it's money exchanged for services. Yes, that exchange gets taxed because it is a sale. there is no sales in inheritances.
Not sure why that matters. We're talking about INCOME tax, not sales tax, remember? Weren't you making a big deal out of that word a little while ago?
It's still income to the kid. The money changes hands and changes title. You're not even grasping at straws anymore. Now you're making bullshit rules up as you go along.

No, it is not income. Income is money that was gained through labor or investments for a profit.
That's not what your definition says. Not the way it was worded by the writer regardless of you choose to see it. I gave you the grammar lesson already. Can't you learn anything?
Each kid would pay 33%. I don't see anything wrong with that. People pay taxes on their income all the time and that's money they actually worked for. Not sure what NK or Cuba has to do with it. Are you against taxation/government? The United States hasn't been an anarchy/without a government for a long time at least.

If they worked for the money, then it should be taxed. If money was just given to them, then it's a gift, and gifts between family members should not be taxed. Or do you think government should tax us on all the gifts we got for Christmas yesterday?
I have no problem with that in theory. Many small gifts could be made to fall under de minimis rules like those applied to other types of income.
When you actually believe that government should get more of a family members money than the family themselves, yes, that is the mentality of governments like NK or Cuba. Government owns everything and what they allow you to keep is gift from them to you; government is more of a priority than family, and that's just not American in any way or form.
I don't care about your North Korea or Cuba bullshit. You sound childish.
 
Just Google Anti illegals laws deemed unconstitutional and you will find pages of this, dupe...
Why Trump's Immigration Rules Are Unconstitutional - POLITICO Magazine
Politico › magazine › story › 2017/02

Feb 1, 2017 · An executive order or law displays unconstitutional animus and thus violates the ... state constitution—deemed unconstitutional by the Supreme Court in Romer v.


Arizona SB 1070 - Wikipedia
Wikipedia › wiki › Arizona_SB_1070

In June 2012, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled on the case Arizona v. United States, upholding the provision requiring immigration status checks during law enforcement stops


You know hispanics only make up about 60% of illegals, right? The rest come from virtually every country in the world. Like I said there are no laws that specifically target hispanics, but feel free to continue your lies and I'll continue to laugh at you.


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Actually Hispanics are over 75% of illegals. And the only way to stop illegals coming in is a SSID card that can't be faked, and Republicans have blocked forever, Dupe.


You prove over and over that you're just not very smart. Anything created by man can be replicated by other men. And laws against illegals are NOT aimed specifically at hispanics, they are aimed at all illegals. The first lame link you posted was about muslims and the second was a State case having nothing to do with the feds and it was long before Trump.

Now, would you like to get back on topic, it's about tax cuts.


.
I don't care if they're Muslims or Mexicans or what. If they are worthy they can stay. Now pass the dam SS ID card and end it.

As for taxes, it's ridiculous to cut taxes on the rich again. The non rich need tax cuts and help. You dupes are out of your mind.


They are not worthy, they are criminals. And everyone got a tax cut, not just the rich. Keep pushing the propaganda, it's quite entertaining.


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Your party refuses to stop them from coming and working here... It's an open invitation to come and work and have a great life in America. And we have to stop it and a wall and b******* is not going to do it
 
Apparently you can neither read nor write only when it suits you.

Post a link to your claim. You won't, because if you did post a link, you won't be back! You will turn tail and run like the lying coward you appear to be.
Here you go, dumbass!

It's post #50 of this thread.

He inherited it, stupid. He may have also received some as a gift prior to his father's death.

That is incorrect and a lie. The fact you did not post a link proves you are tap dancing faster than Gregory Hines!
The link is the little arrow right next to "BGROUSE SAID:"

I clicked it and it took me straight to the post.

Where is the link to the source of your comment, not the damned post you illiterate imbecile?

I don't give a flying fuck what you said, because you are an unrepentant liar!
You asked for a link to my claim, not a link to the source supporting my claim, you stupid piece of shit!
Post a link to your claim.
The fact that you can't read or write correctly makes you illiterate, not me! As for the source, which you now requested, well, here's some of it. Trump talks about starting out with money from his dad:




Semantics, the last bastion of a loser, good job regressive, good job.


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I posed it already. See: Trump. Do you want a link to his bankruptcy?

How does bankruptcy make him a deadbeat? Bankruptcies are common in business. If he was a deadbeat, he wouldn't have any bankruptcies because he just would have spent all the money he inherited.

Like a deadbeat dad who won't pay his child support, only worse. You know, a deadbeat. An idle or disreputable person. He has money, he just doesn't want to pay his debts.

Why should he use his personal money to repay debts acquired by one of his businesses? It's a perfectly legal strategy for companies or individuals who find themselves in financial trouble.
I never said it was always illegal to be a deadbeat. I just said he was a deadbeat. I consider not paying your debt when you have so much money to be a quality of a deadbeat. The fact that he may have used an entity to sign for the debt or used government-provided protection to help him avoid paying it doesn't change that.

Companies and owners are two separate entities. That's why people who have businesses incorporate.
Doesn't make Trump not a deadbeat. You can rationalize with entities all you want. You know what happened. Don't be an idiot.
You can't file bankruptcy unless you can prove you don't have the money to repay debts owed. It's a legal business strategy. Trump could personally have 10 billion dollars, but if one of his companies go under, it has no barring on him. His personal money is completely separate from his business money. If individuals were held responsible for the debts of their business, nobody would open up a business.
Nice theory, but people still file personal returns with non-entities (Schedule Cs) and even in the case of business, people can and do personally guarantee loans.
 
Here you go, dumbass!

It's post #50 of this thread.

That is incorrect and a lie. The fact you did not post a link proves you are tap dancing faster than Gregory Hines!
The link is the little arrow right next to "BGROUSE SAID:"

I clicked it and it took me straight to the post.

Where is the link to the source of your comment, not the damned post you illiterate imbecile?

I don't give a flying fuck what you said, because you are an unrepentant liar!
You asked for a link to my claim, not a link to the source supporting my claim, you stupid piece of shit!
Post a link to your claim.
The fact that you can't read or write correctly makes you illiterate, not me! As for the source, which you now requested, well, here's some of it. Trump talks about starting out with money from his dad:




Semantics, the last bastion of a loser, good job regressive, good job.


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You don't even have a bastion, or an argument, fool.
 
I think people in blue States aren't going to get tax cuts.

wow

the level of ignorance you are displaying is overwhelming...

everybody gets the tax cut

property tax payments are no longer allowed as a deduction; and yes, that will affect landowners in states where property taxes are higher

but only the truly wealthy with large land holdings will see a net negative effect insofar as their overall tax burden

so this tax plan sticks it to the super rich - isn't that what you want?

it's almost like you aren't thinking through your comments

almost...
 
I think people in blue States aren't going to get tax cuts.

wow

the level of ignorance you are displaying is overwhelming...

everybody gets the tax cut

property tax payments are no longer allowed as a deduction; and yes, that will affect landowners in states where property taxes are higher

but only the truly wealthy with large land holdings will see a net negative effect insofar as their overall tax burden

so this tax plan sticks it to the super rich - isn't that what you want?

it's almost like you aren't thinking through your comments

almost...
The lower tax bracket rates should more than cover any lost real estate tax deductions.
 
And? If he hires his kid to work for him, I guess they should be exempt from employer taxes and income taxes, too?

No, because it's money exchanged for services. Yes, that exchange gets taxed because it is a sale. there is no sales in inheritances.
Not sure why that matters. We're talking about INCOME tax, not sales tax, remember? Weren't you making a big deal out of that word a little while ago?
It's still income to the kid. The money changes hands and changes title. You're not even grasping at straws anymore. Now you're making bullshit rules up as you go along.

No, it is not income. Income is money that was gained through labor or investments for a profit.
That's not what your definition says. Not the way it was worded by the writer regardless of you choose to see it. I gave you the grammar lesson already. Can't you learn anything?
Each kid would pay 33%. I don't see anything wrong with that. People pay taxes on their income all the time and that's money they actually worked for. Not sure what NK or Cuba has to do with it. Are you against taxation/government? The United States hasn't been an anarchy/without a government for a long time at least.

If they worked for the money, then it should be taxed. If money was just given to them, then it's a gift, and gifts between family members should not be taxed. Or do you think government should tax us on all the gifts we got for Christmas yesterday?
I have no problem with that in theory. Many small gifts could be made to fall under de minimis rules like those applied to other types of income.
When you actually believe that government should get more of a family members money than the family themselves, yes, that is the mentality of governments like NK or Cuba. Government owns everything and what they allow you to keep is gift from them to you; government is more of a priority than family, and that's just not American in any way or form.
I don't care about your North Korea or Cuba bullshit. You sound childish.

Why do you believe that punishing people for being successful is a grand idea?

Why do you believe that forcing families who have worked their whole life to build up a profitable farm or small business should be forced to liquidate that property so the government can confiscate what they earned? Who do you believe buys those farms and businesses?

It is sad that you are so envious, so jealous of everyone more successful than yourself. I admire successful people and have been blessed that they agreed to mentor me over the decades. I have tried to help others too.
 
And? If he hires his kid to work for him, I guess they should be exempt from employer taxes and income taxes, too?

No, because it's money exchanged for services. Yes, that exchange gets taxed because it is a sale. there is no sales in inheritances.
Not sure why that matters. We're talking about INCOME tax, not sales tax, remember? Weren't you making a big deal out of that word a little while ago?
It's still income to the kid. The money changes hands and changes title. You're not even grasping at straws anymore. Now you're making bullshit rules up as you go along.

No, it is not income. Income is money that was gained through labor or investments for a profit.
That's not what your definition says. Not the way it was worded by the writer regardless of you choose to see it. I gave you the grammar lesson already. Can't you learn anything?
Each kid would pay 33%. I don't see anything wrong with that. People pay taxes on their income all the time and that's money they actually worked for. Not sure what NK or Cuba has to do with it. Are you against taxation/government? The United States hasn't been an anarchy/without a government for a long time at least.

If they worked for the money, then it should be taxed. If money was just given to them, then it's a gift, and gifts between family members should not be taxed. Or do you think government should tax us on all the gifts we got for Christmas yesterday?
I have no problem with that in theory. Many small gifts could be made to fall under de minimis rules like those applied to other types of income.
When you actually believe that government should get more of a family members money than the family themselves, yes, that is the mentality of governments like NK or Cuba. Government owns everything and what they allow you to keep is gift from them to you; government is more of a priority than family, and that's just not American in any way or form.
I don't care about your North Korea or Cuba bullshit. You sound childish.

Why do you believe that punishing people for being successful is a grand idea?
Why do you believe that being born to rich parents equals "being successful?"
Why do you believe that forcing families who have worked their whole life to build up a profitable farm or small business should be forced to liquidate that property so the government can confiscate what they earned?
Who said anything about liquidation?
Who do you believe buys those farms and businesses?
From your imaginary businesses and farms? Imaginary business and farm customers?
It is sad that you are so envious, so jealous of everyone more successful than yourself. I admire successful people and have been blessed that they agreed to mentor me over the decades. I have tried to help others too.
They mentored you into a fool who worships and thinks highly of someone just because he was born rich. It doesn't take any ability or hard work to be born rich or accept an inheritance.
 

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