OK, I'll admit it, our friends on the left are correct; there IS a catch to the Trump tax cuts

[OKTexas]

The result is a claim that he gave tax cut. It did nothing but hurt social security. But in order to give that cut, he pushed inheritance and gift taxes back to 35%. It's a word game, nothing else.

Just like "he cut the deficit in half".

Yes he did, Dunce. But thanks for allowing 911 through sheer incompetence, the stupidest Wars ever, and a corrupt World depression. No one in their right mind would vote for these chumps GOP... Brainwashed functional moron.

The same mindless chants over and over and over and over and over and over, yeah someone around here is a brainwashed functional moron, but it ain't us. LMAO


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Funny how the entire rest of the world is horrified by your giant lying b******* character assassination and hate propaganda machine. And in the whole world only you idiots deny global warming, your GOP giveaway to the rich tax cuts and rates, the fact that there was a world depression in 2008 only averted by 15 trillion dollars of bailouts and assistance in the modern world, etc etc. Then you have your countless idiotic phony scandals about the clintons and Obama and holder and other Democrats that have never been anywhere near a quart or a respectable news Outlet. You people are unbelievable and a disaster to boot.

Yeah, the rest of the world are so horrified most of them want to move here. And why do you keep deflecting to the bitch, you have nothing to win on there either.


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Only horrible countries with terrible economies and usually crime ridden to boot..

Yeah, 46,800 came from that hell hole called Canada in 2015, go figure.

Frequently Requested Statistics on Immigrants and Immigration in the United States


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[francoHFW]

Yes he did, Dunce. But thanks for allowing 911 through sheer incompetence, the stupidest Wars ever, and a corrupt World depression. No one in their right mind would vote for these chumps GOP... Brainwashed functional moron.

The same mindless chants over and over and over and over and over and over, yeah someone around here is a brainwashed functional moron, but it ain't us. LMAO


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Funny how the entire rest of the world is horrified by your giant lying b******* character assassination and hate propaganda machine. And in the whole world only you idiots deny global warming, your GOP giveaway to the rich tax cuts and rates, the fact that there was a world depression in 2008 only averted by 15 trillion dollars of bailouts and assistance in the modern world, etc etc. Then you have your countless idiotic phony scandals about the clintons and Obama and holder and other Democrats that have never been anywhere near a quart or a respectable news Outlet. You people are unbelievable and a disaster to boot.

Yeah, the rest of the world are so horrified most of them want to move here. And why do you keep deflecting to the bitch, you have nothing to win on there either.


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Only horrible countries with terrible economies and usually crime ridden to boot..

Yeah, 46,800 came from that hell hole called Canada in 2015, go figure.

Frequently Requested Statistics on Immigrants and Immigration in the United States


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Over 75% come from Mexico and Latin America... A drug war war zone....

 

[bgrouse]

The land is already there and the structure is built by laborers. Trump wasn't there laying the bricks. He's just an asshole who wound up with the title to the land.

This is about Trump? I thought you were talking about all industries.

Without the people to develop that land, build on that land, fund the material for the structure to be on that land, it's just land that will sit there forever. People don't come out to survey land, mark water and gas lines, dig footers for nothing. There is somebody at the top paying for that activity to happen. Did you ever deal with your city when it comes to making improvements or rebuilding? It's a nightmare and takes forever. Somebody has to do these things so people do have a place to work one day.

The laborers develop the land. Different laborers deliver the material. Surveyors do the surveying work. Trump (as an example) is just the asshole who happens to have title to money. The government can just tax it to pay the workers. They printed it in the first place anyway. Oh, and the government is also who decides and enforces the title to the land and the money. WTF does the lazy deadbeat rich guy do? NOTHING!

You're the idiot who doesn't know what income is and you're here talking to me about too much TV? Don't make me laugh!

And you do know what income is? Inheritance being taxable has been in debate for decades, so it's the interpretation of the representatives that decide if it is or not.

They've been arguing whether it's TAXABLE or not/at what rate/at what amount. Not if it's INCOME or not! Do you understand, moron? There's no doubt that it is INCOME! It's income when title changes hands, as has been posted for you!

It's been one way or the other depending on who is in office, and that goes with what is considered "rich" which of course is subjective depending on who you ask.

Trump concluded that people who have a mortgage over 750K are wealthy enough to not need a deduction after that 750, and the left in commie states are gong absolutely nuts about it.

 

[OKTexas]

The same mindless chants over and over and over and over and over and over, yeah someone around here is a brainwashed functional moron, but it ain't us. LMAO


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Funny how the entire rest of the world is horrified by your giant lying b******* character assassination and hate propaganda machine. And in the whole world only you idiots deny global warming, your GOP giveaway to the rich tax cuts and rates, the fact that there was a world depression in 2008 only averted by 15 trillion dollars of bailouts and assistance in the modern world, etc etc. Then you have your countless idiotic phony scandals about the clintons and Obama and holder and other Democrats that have never been anywhere near a quart or a respectable news Outlet. You people are unbelievable and a disaster to boot.

Yeah, the rest of the world are so horrified most of them want to move here. And why do you keep deflecting to the bitch, you have nothing to win on there either.


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Only horrible countries with terrible economies and usually crime ridden to boot..

Yeah, 46,800 came from that hell hole called Canada in 2015, go figure.

Frequently Requested Statistics on Immigrants and Immigration in the United States


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Over 75% come from Mexico and Latin America... A drug war war zone....

If you bothered to read the link, China and India overtook Mexico for the top seats. Of course I'm talking about people who come legally, not criminals sneaking in the back door.


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[dblack]

The laborers develop the land. Different laborers deliver the material. Surveyors do the surveying work. Trump (as an example) is just the asshole who happens to have title to money. The government can just tax it to pay the workers. They printed it in the first place anyway. Oh, and the government is also who decides and enforces the title to the land and the money. WTF does the lazy deadbeat rich guy do? NOTHING!

Really? You really don't understand the role investors play in an economy?

 

[bgrouse]

The laborers develop the land. Different laborers deliver the material. Surveyors do the surveying work. Trump (as an example) is just the asshole who happens to have title to money. The government can just tax it to pay the workers. They printed it in the first place anyway. Oh, and the government is also who decides and enforces the title to the land and the money. WTF does the lazy deadbeat rich guy do? NOTHING!

Really? You really don't understand the role investors play in an economy?

I understand the need for leadership positions. I just feel the rich have far more money than they are worth.

 

[dblack]

The laborers develop the land. Different laborers deliver the material. Surveyors do the surveying work. Trump (as an example) is just the asshole who happens to have title to money. The government can just tax it to pay the workers. They printed it in the first place anyway. Oh, and the government is also who decides and enforces the title to the land and the money. WTF does the lazy deadbeat rich guy do? NOTHING!

Really? You really don't understand the role investors play in an economy?

I understand the need for leadership positions. I just feel the rich have far more money than they are worth.

Well, clearly other people disagree with you. Why do you think your opinion is worth more than theirs?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The laborers develop the land. Different laborers deliver the material. Surveyors do the surveying work. Trump (as an example) is just the asshole who happens to have title to money. The government can just tax it to pay the workers. They printed it in the first place anyway. Oh, and the government is also who decides and enforces the title to the land and the money. WTF does the lazy deadbeat rich guy do? NOTHING!

Yes, laborers are HIRED by the rich guy to work. What's your point? The laborer wouldn't be working if the rich guy wasn't paying him. The laborers would have no place TO work if the rich guy didn't purchase the land to be developed.

 

[Uncensored2008]

You actually have to work and make enough money to pay taxes to actually benefit.

That godam Trump and the evil republicans running the government fuck the little guy at every turn...

What will turn out to be Trump's biggest lie he's told his Trumpanzees:

"It’s going to cost me a fortune, this thing. Believe me," he said at a tax-reform speech in Missouri. "This is not good for me. Me, it’s not so — I have some very wealthy friends. Not so happy with me, but that’s okay."

How is that a lie, Comrade Shitferbrains?

 

[Uncensored2008]

How can a republican talk about fair when the lying vile louse in our WH is screwing blue states with his BS tax cut ? NY for example pays THE MOST to our fed and gets little back We subsidize the gd red states and now the idiot screws us??? There will be law suits

Sue away, you'll lose. Congress giveth deductions, they can take them away.


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The people who cry the most about needing higher taxes are the ones who cry the most when it's they who are paying them.

The economy works because of people who work. The people who assemble your car, butcher your cattle, prepare your meal, etc... The super poor and the super rich are often the moochers who don't do any of that. The super poor through welfare and the rich through inheritance. Although Trump got a lot through the government, too.

More people get rich from lotteries than they do from inheritance.

Lottery winnings are also taxable, btw.

Nobody would be able to assemble my car, butcher my cattle, or prepare a meal if it were not somebody to provide the establishment in which to perform those chores; somebody to provide the structure, somebody to purchase and maintain the necessary tools, somebody to have parking lot their their employees, somebody to make out payrolls and pay taxes on their employees behalf, somebody to sell said products for a profit to keep the business going, somebody to buy material in which the products are made.

The land is already there and the structure is built by laborers. Trump wasn't there laying the bricks. He's just an asshole who wound up with the title to the land.

The problem with the left is you people watch too many television shows and movies. They portray your typical rich guy in his super huge office with a large breasted secretary sitting on his desk which is about 30 feet from his astroturf putting green.

You're the idiot who doesn't know what income is and you're here talking to me about too much TV? Don't make me laugh!

"Wound up" with the title by paying for it, dumbass?

How did you wind up with that iPhone that every last one of you welfare motherfuckers have?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Title? really was he a Duke? I don't recall Donald Trump's peerage.

Title has nothing to do with being a Duke. It has to do with ownership as the IRS is using it. You'll find out about it when you buy a car, kid.

You're such a dumbfuck.....income is not inheritance, no matter how you commies want to spin it.....income is earned money through working.

You are totally retarded! The IRS even discusses earned and unearned income!

Earned Income | Internal Revenue Service

Examples of Income that are Not Earned Income:

• Pay received for work while an inmate in a penal institution
• Interest and dividends
• Retirement income
• Social security
• Unemployment benefits
• Alimony
• Child support.

In fact the democrats put in an inheritance tax(if it was income why have this tax?), which we correctly repealed
Sorry giving your son a few bucks does not subject it to tax nor should it. Same with donations and giving.....I DONATE(aka give with no strings) to a charity it should not be counted as income.......

You're the moron that supports their policies and ideas....and since almost everyone of those people had no issue with her investments...you're side has zero.....I mean zero right to bitch about anyone else.

OMG I love it when people like you pussy out with statements like that....who did you support Bernie? Jill Stein? do tell


just get your damn hands off of our money, earn it with your own labor, you fucking leech.

You're so fucking retarded you don't even know what income is and you're giving me advice? Thanks but no thanks!

LOL, yeah I do have a car title, I am not paying taxes again to get my title.......the problem is

If you bought the car, you gave up title to an equivalent amount of wealth (money) so wealth-wise, it's a net wash, so $0 income. When you get $5 million in inheritance, you don't give up $5 million in other wealth to get it. That's why it's income. If you WON the car, it would be income (per IRS):

Gambling income includes but isn't limited to winnings from lotteries, raffles, horse races, and casinos. It includes cash winnings and the fair market value of prizes, such as cars and trips.

Got it, idiot?

For exanple, when your daddy earned or won his money, it was income to him at the time when title to those earnings or winnings passed to him. When title passes to you via gift or inheritance, it's another income event (this time for you). Our government just gives deadbeat rich people a pass since they like to live beyond their abilities. I guess sloth runs in some rich families like Trump's.

Sorry bro..having money handed down via inheritance isn't income and shouldn't be taxed.....it was already in the family...and it has already been taxed....just because the name first name changes, doesn't mean anything, just like if you parents give you a hand me down car, you don't claim that as income on your taxes......it was already taxed.....when you bought it.

Bwahahahaha! You don't pay income tax on a car you buy you dolt! That's sales tax! It has nothing to do with income taxation!

Title change is an income event:

Under this rule, you report an amount in your gross income on the earliest of the following dates.

• When you receive payment.
• When the income amount is due to you.
• When you earn the income.
• When title passes.

Seriously, stop posting. You can't possibly make yourself look any dumber than you already look!

Dude, are you really arguing that title doesn't pass because you gave it to someone with the same last name?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! What if I hire someone to work for me and he changes his name to be the same as my name? Is he exempt from paying tax when he gets a W-2? No wait, maybe he shouldn't get a W-2 at all since the name is the same!!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I pay a yearly "we want to fuck you" tax on all my cars and trucks.

Communists are such shits.

 

[jc456]

PAPAGEORGIO said Trump got rich working. This is false. I was explaining that to him.Is that what republicans mean when they tell people to pull themselves up by the bootstraps? "Work" by not partying and blowing your $10-20 million you inherited? No wonder it doesn't work.

Blowing 10-20 million, puts 10-20 million back into the economy and creates a demand which in turn puts people to work, which means it is taxed. It is a natural way of income redistribution, not forced as the government does. So it is all good. If everyone who inherited their money did this, the economy would be better.

I really don’t care how other people spend their money or if they inherited their money, it isn’t my business and I have more important things to worry about than whether you worked for your wealth or inherited your wealth.

They could get the money back into the economy by taxing the inheritance. Then they wouldn't have to worry about wasting goods and services on some good-for-nothing lazy rich deadbeat.

The point is he didn't get rich working. Do you understand or do you need me to hold your hand and point out the important lines in the posts?

since when do you guys care about working?
Second, why cant rich people leave money to their kids?

They can, but it should be taxed like regular income at the very least.

and third he increased his wealth by quite a bit working, so it's not like he took the money from daddy and then blew it on hookers and coke.

Why can't everyone else pull themselves up by their bootstraps and "work" by investing their spare $10-20 million they have laying around?

But the lazy rich kid who inherited the money did?

wow are you on crack? or do you just like to deny reality to keep your bubble up?

The reality is that inheriting something is not "work."

PAPAGEORGIO said Trump got rich working. This is false. I was explaining that to him.Is that what republicans mean when they tell people to pull themselves up by the bootstraps? "Work" by not partying and blowing your $10-20 million you inherited? No wonder it doesn't work.

OK, he got richer working......he had money and did something with it...why are you such a hater of that......
was your dad rich and you tossed it down the toilet?

Yeah, he put it somewhere for it to become more money. Investments are not "work" kind of like the lottery is not work.

Considering that trumps businesses have gone bankrupt three or four times and he ended up being a brand name and a reality TV bozo... He is a bad businessman. In the end he just took money to put his name on other people's buildings. He's a con man who will never show his tax returns...

How many of your businesses are successful?

Sorry, daddy didn't give me millions to invest.

Ahh jealous

 

[bgrouse]

Sue away, you'll lose. Congress giveth deductions, they can take them away.


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The people who cry the most about needing higher taxes are the ones who cry the most when it's they who are paying them.

The economy works because of people who work. The people who assemble your car, butcher your cattle, prepare your meal, etc... The super poor and the super rich are often the moochers who don't do any of that. The super poor through welfare and the rich through inheritance. Although Trump got a lot through the government, too.

More people get rich from lotteries than they do from inheritance.

Lottery winnings are also taxable, btw.

Nobody would be able to assemble my car, butcher my cattle, or prepare a meal if it were not somebody to provide the establishment in which to perform those chores; somebody to provide the structure, somebody to purchase and maintain the necessary tools, somebody to have parking lot their their employees, somebody to make out payrolls and pay taxes on their employees behalf, somebody to sell said products for a profit to keep the business going, somebody to buy material in which the products are made.

The land is already there and the structure is built by laborers. Trump wasn't there laying the bricks. He's just an asshole who wound up with the title to the land.

The problem with the left is you people watch too many television shows and movies. They portray your typical rich guy in his super huge office with a large breasted secretary sitting on his desk which is about 30 feet from his astroturf putting green.

You're the idiot who doesn't know what income is and you're here talking to me about too much TV? Don't make me laugh!

"Wound up" with the title by paying for it, dumbass?

How did you wind up with that iPhone that every last one of you welfare motherfuckers have?

He wound up with the title likely either through inheritance, gift, or government handouts.

Title has nothing to do with being a Duke. It has to do with ownership as the IRS is using it. You'll find out about it when you buy a car, kid.You are totally retarded! The IRS even discusses earned and unearned income!

Earned Income | Internal Revenue Service

You're so fucking retarded you don't even know what income is and you're giving me advice? Thanks but no thanks!

LOL, yeah I do have a car title, I am not paying taxes again to get my title.......the problem is

If you bought the car, you gave up title to an equivalent amount of wealth (money) so wealth-wise, it's a net wash, so $0 income. When you get $5 million in inheritance, you don't give up $5 million in other wealth to get it. That's why it's income. If you WON the car, it would be income (per IRS):

Gambling income includes but isn't limited to winnings from lotteries, raffles, horse races, and casinos. It includes cash winnings and the fair market value of prizes, such as cars and trips.

Got it, idiot?

For exanple, when your daddy earned or won his money, it was income to him at the time when title to those earnings or winnings passed to him. When title passes to you via gift or inheritance, it's another income event (this time for you). Our government just gives deadbeat rich people a pass since they like to live beyond their abilities. I guess sloth runs in some rich families like Trump's.

Sorry bro..having money handed down via inheritance isn't income and shouldn't be taxed.....it was already in the family...and it has already been taxed....just because the name first name changes, doesn't mean anything, just like if you parents give you a hand me down car, you don't claim that as income on your taxes......it was already taxed.....when you bought it.

Bwahahahaha! You don't pay income tax on a car you buy you dolt! That's sales tax! It has nothing to do with income taxation!

Title change is an income event:

Under this rule, you report an amount in your gross income on the earliest of the following dates.

• When you receive payment.
• When the income amount is due to you.
• When you earn the income.
• When title passes.

Seriously, stop posting. You can't possibly make yourself look any dumber than you already look!

Dude, are you really arguing that title doesn't pass because you gave it to someone with the same last name?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! What if I hire someone to work for me and he changes his name to be the same as my name? Is he exempt from paying tax when he gets a W-2? No wait, maybe he shouldn't get a W-2 at all since the name is the same!!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I pay a yearly "we want to fuck you" tax on all my cars and trucks.

Communists are such shits.

I suspect that's not an income tax either and likely has 0 to do with this thread topic.

 

[bgrouse]

The laborers develop the land. Different laborers deliver the material. Surveyors do the surveying work. Trump (as an example) is just the asshole who happens to have title to money. The government can just tax it to pay the workers. They printed it in the first place anyway. Oh, and the government is also who decides and enforces the title to the land and the money. WTF does the lazy deadbeat rich guy do? NOTHING!

Yes, laborers are HIRED by the rich guy to work. What's your point? The laborer wouldn't be working if the rich guy wasn't paying him. The laborers would have no place TO work if the rich guy didn't purchase the land to be developed.

It's the government that prints, controls, and enforces the currency. If the people wanted it done, they could have simply voted for the government to pay people to work on that land. The rich deadbeat is just a middleman who keeps a chunk of the profits.

What you don't get is that a "job" is usually created as easily as money being promised for certain actions. There are 2 basic requirements:

1. That the money has value to the workers.
2. That there are workers.

We know Trump isn't a worker. He's a deadbeat. I'm pretty sure he wasn't down there mixing the cement or putting the bricks down. So there goes #2.

As for #1, money has value because other workers are willing to work for it performing other services. Trump doesn't really do that either.

Of course you also need the government to print and enforce the currency. We don't really need Trump for that either.

 

[francoHFW]

Blowing 10-20 million, puts 10-20 million back into the economy and creates a demand which in turn puts people to work, which means it is taxed. It is a natural way of income redistribution, not forced as the government does. So it is all good. If everyone who inherited their money did this, the economy would be better.

I really don’t care how other people spend their money or if they inherited their money, it isn’t my business and I have more important things to worry about than whether you worked for your wealth or inherited your wealth.

They could get the money back into the economy by taxing the inheritance. Then they wouldn't have to worry about wasting goods and services on some good-for-nothing lazy rich deadbeat.

since when do you guys care about working?
Second, why cant rich people leave money to their kids?

They can, but it should be taxed like regular income at the very least.

and third he increased his wealth by quite a bit working, so it's not like he took the money from daddy and then blew it on hookers and coke.

Why can't everyone else pull themselves up by their bootstraps and "work" by investing their spare $10-20 million they have laying around?

wow are you on crack? or do you just like to deny reality to keep your bubble up?

The reality is that inheriting something is not "work."

OK, he got richer working......he had money and did something with it...why are you such a hater of that......
was your dad rich and you tossed it down the toilet?

Yeah, he put it somewhere for it to become more money. Investments are not "work" kind of like the lottery is not work.

Considering that trumps businesses have gone bankrupt three or four times and he ended up being a brand name and a reality TV bozo... He is a bad businessman. In the end he just took money to put his name on other people's buildings. He's a con man who will never show his tax returns...

How many of your businesses are successful?

Sorry, daddy didn't give me millions to invest.

Ahh jealous

Ahh brainwashed. And absolutely irrelevant argument...

 

[Papageorgio]

They could get the money back into the economy by taxing the inheritance. Then they wouldn't have to worry about wasting goods and services on some good-for-nothing lazy rich deadbeat.



They can, but it should be taxed like regular income at the very least.Why can't everyone else pull themselves up by their bootstraps and "work" by investing their spare $10-20 million they have laying around?




The reality is that inheriting something is not "work."




Yeah, he put it somewhere for it to become more money. Investments are not "work" kind of like the lottery is not work.

Considering that trumps businesses have gone bankrupt three or four times and he ended up being a brand name and a reality TV bozo... He is a bad businessman. In the end he just took money to put his name on other people's buildings. He's a con man who will never show his tax returns...

How many of your businesses are successful?

Sorry, daddy didn't give me millions to invest.

Ahh jealous

Ahh brainwashed. And absolutely irrelevant argument...

You drinking again or still?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The laborers develop the land. Different laborers deliver the material. Surveyors do the surveying work. Trump (as an example) is just the asshole who happens to have title to money. The government can just tax it to pay the workers. They printed it in the first place anyway. Oh, and the government is also who decides and enforces the title to the land and the money. WTF does the lazy deadbeat rich guy do? NOTHING!

Yes, laborers are HIRED by the rich guy to work. What's your point? The laborer wouldn't be working if the rich guy wasn't paying him. The laborers would have no place TO work if the rich guy didn't purchase the land to be developed.

It's the government that prints, controls, and enforces the currency. If the people wanted it done, they could have simply voted for the government to pay people to work on that land. The rich deadbeat is just a middleman who keeps a chunk of the profits.

What you don't get is that a "job" is usually created as easily as money being promised for certain actions. There are 2 basic requirements:

1. That the money has value to the workers.
2. That there are workers.

We know Trump isn't a worker. He's a deadbeat. I'm pretty sure he wasn't down there mixing the cement or putting the bricks down. So there goes #2.

As for #1, money has value because other workers are willing to work for it performing other services. Trump doesn't really do that either.

Of course you also need the government to print and enforce the currency. We don't really need Trump for that either.

So what are you suggesting, that we don't need Trump's in this country and should just have government do everything like in Cuba or North Korea? No thank you.

You don't need to mix cement or carry shingles to a rooftop to be a major player in a project. Just like sports teams need a coach and a team owner, just like an actor needs his producer, just like a singer needs his band behind him, the laborers need a chief to start and conduct the project they are working on.

The difference is that Trump and industry can always find workers, but workers cannot always find work. That's why the employer doesn't apply with you to get you to work for him--you apply with an employer to get the job.

Currency is only a note that represents created wealth. If nobody is creating wealth, that government note is worthless.

One of the many differences between the left and the right is we depend on wealth creators, and the left depends on government. But the truth is, government doesn't have any of their own money, because government doesn't create products or services for profit--private industry does.

Without people giving government money, government is broke.

 

[bgrouse]

The laborers develop the land. Different laborers deliver the material. Surveyors do the surveying work. Trump (as an example) is just the asshole who happens to have title to money. The government can just tax it to pay the workers. They printed it in the first place anyway. Oh, and the government is also who decides and enforces the title to the land and the money. WTF does the lazy deadbeat rich guy do? NOTHING!

Yes, laborers are HIRED by the rich guy to work. What's your point? The laborer wouldn't be working if the rich guy wasn't paying him. The laborers would have no place TO work if the rich guy didn't purchase the land to be developed.

It's the government that prints, controls, and enforces the currency. If the people wanted it done, they could have simply voted for the government to pay people to work on that land. The rich deadbeat is just a middleman who keeps a chunk of the profits.

What you don't get is that a "job" is usually created as easily as money being promised for certain actions. There are 2 basic requirements:

1. That the money has value to the workers.
2. That there are workers.

We know Trump isn't a worker. He's a deadbeat. I'm pretty sure he wasn't down there mixing the cement or putting the bricks down. So there goes #2.

As for #1, money has value because other workers are willing to work for it performing other services. Trump doesn't really do that either.

Of course you also need the government to print and enforce the currency. We don't really need Trump for that either.

So what are you suggesting, that we don't need Trump's in this country and should just have government do everything like in Cuba or North Korea? No thank you.

You don't need to mix cement or carry shingles to a rooftop to be a major player in a project. Just like sports teams need a coach and a team owner, just like an actor needs his producer, just like a singer needs his band behind him, the laborers need a chief to start and conduct the project they are working on.

Trump's enormous bankruptcies indicate he was less like a coach and more like a gambler who kept the $ when he won and didn't pay when he lost.

The difference is that Trump and industry can always find workers, but workers cannot always find work. That's why the employer doesn't apply with you to get you to work for him--you apply with an employer to get the job.

The only reason people looked to Trump for wealth is because government permitted title to enormous wealth to be given to Trump for nothing.

Currency is only a note that represents created wealth. If nobody is creating wealth, that government note is worthless.

Deadbeat rich people don't create much wealth, certainly not enough to justify their wealth. That's the point you're missing.

One of the many differences between the left and the right is we depend on wealth creators, and the left depends on government. But the truth is, government doesn't have any of their own money, because government doesn't create products or services for profit--private industry does.

Without people giving government money, government is broke.

Rich deadbeats aren't wealth creators. They are wealth users and owners. And they only own the wealth because the government enforces their title to it.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Trump's enormous bankruptcies indicate he was less like a coach and more like a gambler who kept the $ when he won and didn't pay when he lost.

You mean like every other business in America? Coaches don't lose games no matter how good they are?

The only reason people looked to Trump for wealth is because government permitted title to enormous wealth to be given to Trump for nothing.

Read our Constitution. Government isn't there to permit anything. Obtaining and growing wealth is a natural part of a free capitalist society. Millions of people do it every day although not on the same level as Trump.

Deadbeat rich people don't create much wealth, certainly not enough to justify their wealth. That's the point you're missing.

Trump did as most others who are wealthy. Very few if any wealthy people just let their money sit in a bank account somewhere making 1% interest. Those kinds of people don't stay wealthy for very long.

Rich deadbeats aren't wealth creators. They are wealth users and owners. And they only own the wealth because the government enforces their title to it.

So who does create wealth, the homeless? Your precious government?

Most people who are wealthy became that way because of hard work and risky investments. Every year we have more and more wealthy people in this country. It has nothing to do with government and in fact, if not for government taking wealth that people create, those people would have even more wealth.

 

[eddiew37]

hard work ,,,,sweating it out on the golf courses ....drinking 8 diet cokes a day a farting fool