Okay...to settle this, the church shooter could not legally own any gun...

[Lewdog]

No. He was the known shooter the entire time. It's not like he could have been an innocent person harassed for no reason.

And with all of that knowledge they still believe he is innocent until proven guilty and that he should not be subjected to random "stop and frisk"

EVERYONE is innocent in the U.S. until proven guilty in a court of law... and stop and frisk has nothing to do with guilt.

 

[BULLDOG]

No. He was the known shooter the entire time. It's not like he could have been an innocent person harassed for no reason.

And with all of that knowledge they still believe he is innocent until proven guilty and that he should not be subjected to random "stop and frisk"

How long have you opposed the rights the constitution list? Do you hate the entire constitution, or just that part?

 

[Frankeneinstein]

EVERYONE is innocent in the U.S. until proven guilty in a court of law

who said otherwise? the point that went right over your is that you will pretend you care about our rights while trashing them when it suits you....you cannot cherry pick, if you could there would be no rights.



[/quote]... and stop and frisk has nothing to do with guilt.[/QUOTE]

and the ACLU still opposes it...btw, this was a weak response, not to mention irrelevant

 

[Frankeneinstein]

How long have you opposed the rights the constitution list? Do you hate the entire constitution, or just that part?

any more fantasy in that post and CNN may pick it up

 

[Carl in Michigan]

I nailed it!
27 Murdered in Texas Church

The TERRORIST preached ATHEISM. THAT is the motive.

LIAR!

Texas Shooting: Devin Kelley sent threatening texts before Sutherland Springs church attack, police say
The massacre appeared to stem from a domestic situation and was not racially or religiously motivated, Texas Department of Public Safety Regional Director Freeman Martin said.

You have your authorities, I have mine.

He was an anti God kook who hated Christians.

You leftists have been wanting to label a white guy a "terrorist." HERE HE IS.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Comrade Death Angel, can it, because you don't know the issue at all.

This was a domestic issue. He thought the mother-in-law was in church.

He shot almost every last person in the church, before he fled.

Good on the barefooted hero with the shot gun, but he did not stop anything other than the killer After The Fact.

 

[Lewdog]

EVERYONE is innocent in the U.S. until proven guilty in a court of law

who said otherwise? the point that went right over your is that you will pretend you care about our rights while trashing them when it suits you....you cannot cherry pick, if you could there would be no rights.

... and stop and frisk has nothing to do with guilt.[/QUOTE]

and the ACLU still opposes it...btw, this was a weak response, not to mention irrelevant[/QUOTE]

You are delusional. Tell me which personality I'm talking to right now so I can address it accordingly.

Putting tighter gun control laws in place is not taking away guns and breaking the 2nd Amendment...

The ACLU is against stop and frisk abuses, like using it to ask people to show their green card, and when officers abuse the rule in order to frisk a majority of minorities.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Needs repeating: Putting tighter gun control laws in place is not taking away guns and breaking the 2nd Amendment...

 

[miketx]

Until the second he killed the first person, the NRA still considered him to be a good guy with a gun.

He as a convicted felon troll. You must enjoy making yourself out to be an idiot.

Yet he easily bought several guns from several gun shops.

No....he filled out the required paperwork and underwent the Federal, mandated, background check.....that isn't easy....you caan get a car with less work.....

Did he get the guns or not?

He got them because the U.S. Air Force fucked up and didn't put his domestic violence conviction in the system. The families of the victims will get paid VERY WELL.

Yep, years of jughead fucking up the military has come home to roost.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

This was a domestic issue. He thought the mother-in-law was in church.

He shot almost every last person in the church, before he fled.

He THOUGHT his mother-in-law was there so he shot virtually everyone BUT...?

That makes a whole lot of sense.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Related: Gun Control Debunked in 5 Minutes

 

[2aguy]

Comrade Death Angel, can it, because you don't know the issue at all.

This was a domestic issue. He thought the mother-in-law was in church.

He shot almost every last person in the church, before he fled.

Good on the barefooted hero with the shot gun, but he did not stop anything other than the killer After The Fact.

It wasn't a shot gun...it was an AR-15 civilian rifle......he stopped the killer from killing more people....likely going after the people he missed in the church...since the police weren't there to stop him....but the civilian with the AR-15 civilian rifle hit him 2 times and ended his killing...

 

[Lewdog]

This was a domestic issue. He thought the mother-in-law was in church.

He shot almost every last person in the church, before he fled.

He THOUGHT his mother-in-law was there so he shot virtually everyone BUT...?

That makes a whole lot of sense.

He started on the outside of the building firing blindly into the church through the walls and windows.

 

[2aguy]

Needs repeating: Putting tighter gun control laws in place is not taking away guns and breaking the 2nd Amendment...

Yeah...which gun control laws genius...you never mention which ones......because they wouldn't stop criminals or mass shooters.....

 

[2aguy]

EVERYONE is innocent in the U.S. until proven guilty in a court of law

who said otherwise? the point that went right over your is that you will pretend you care about our rights while trashing them when it suits you....you cannot cherry pick, if you could there would be no rights.

... and stop and frisk has nothing to do with guilt.

and the ACLU still opposes it...btw, this was a weak response, not to mention irrelevant[/QUOTE]

You are delusional. Tell me which personality I'm talking to right now so I can address it accordingly.

Putting tighter gun control laws in place is not taking away guns and breaking the 2nd Amendment...

The ACLU is against stop and frisk abuses, like using it to ask people to show their green card, and when officers abuse the rule in order to frisk a majority of minorities.

[/QUOTE]


Which gun control laws, genius.....? You guys have stopped listing the ones you want because you know that none of them would stop criminals or mass shooters....

And "They wouldn't take guns away" is not a strong talking point, since we show you over and over that that is the goal of the gun grabbers who are doing it one court case at time, one gun or piece of equipment at a time...

 

[Lewdog]

Which gun control laws, genius.....? You guys have stopped listing the ones you want because you know that none of them would stop criminals or mass shooters....

And "They wouldn't take guns away" is not a strong talking point, since we show you over and over that that is the goal of the gun grabbers who are doing it one court case at time, one gun or piece of equipment at a time...

Hey genius, how many threads are we going to have this argument in? Because some people might ignore a law doesn't mean we shouldn't have them.

Are you for getting rid of ALL laws? Because Spoiler Alert: Every law is broken by someone.

 

[2aguy]

Which gun control laws, genius.....? You guys have stopped listing the ones you want because you know that none of them would stop criminals or mass shooters....

And "They wouldn't take guns away" is not a strong talking point, since we show you over and over that that is the goal of the gun grabbers who are doing it one court case at time, one gun or piece of equipment at a time...

Hey genius, how many threads are we going to have this argument in? Because some people might ignore a law doesn't mean we shouldn't have them.

Are you for getting rid of ALL laws? Because Spoiler Alert: Every law is broken by someone.

Hey dumb shit...who said we shouldn't have laws...that is what you morons keep accusing us of wanting....you moron only want laws that effect law abiding gun owners...moron...we want laws that keep violent gun criminals in jail for 30 years...you know, the way you actually stop gun crime...you dumb shit...but people like you keep letting them back out over and over again.........why you do that, and then bitch about law abiding gun owners is why we think you are fucking insane...

 

[Frankeneinstein]

You are delusional. Tell me which personality I'm talking to right now so I can address it accordingly.

pretend much?

Putting tighter gun control laws in place is not taking away guns and breaking the 2nd Amendment...

who is going to put these laws in place? congress is not allowed to? that is spelled out clearly in the 2nd amendment

The ACLU is against stop and frisk abuses, like using it to ask people to show their green card, and when officers abuse the rule in order to frisk a majority of minorities.

so stop and frisk is not unconstitutional then? just open to abuse but not unconstitutional?

 

[Frankeneinstein]

and stop and frisk has nothing to do with guilt.

and the ACLU still opposes it...btw, this was a weak response, not to mention irrelevant

what was this all about??

 

[Lewdog]

Which gun control laws, genius.....? You guys have stopped listing the ones you want because you know that none of them would stop criminals or mass shooters....

And "They wouldn't take guns away" is not a strong talking point, since we show you over and over that that is the goal of the gun grabbers who are doing it one court case at time, one gun or piece of equipment at a time...

Hey genius, how many threads are we going to have this argument in? Because some people might ignore a law doesn't mean we shouldn't have them.

Are you for getting rid of ALL laws? Because Spoiler Alert: Every law is broken by someone.

Hey dumb shit...who said we shouldn't have laws...that is what you morons keep accusing us of wanting....you moron only want laws that effect law abiding gun owners...moron...we want laws that keep violent gun criminals in jail for 30 years...you know, the way you actually stop gun crime...you dumb shit...but people like you keep letting them back out over and over again.........why you do that, and then bitch about law abiding gun owners is why we think you are fucking insane...

Hey moron... when you make the argument that we don't need stricter gun laws because people will just get them illegally...

I can throw the EXACT same reasoning back in your face. WHY HAVE ANY LAW THEN? If people will just break the law, what's the purpose? Why have them?

Making punishments worse, by locking up more people for longer periods of time doesn't work. This has been argued for years by Conservatives and it fails... that is why we have more people in jail per 100,000 people than ANY other country on Earth, AND the most locked up overall.

IT DOESN'T WORK.