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not if you have something that needs to be taken care of now.....not 5 months from now...
It is not the government that makes the decision as to the urgency of treatment. The medical professionals make that diagnosis.
The extended wait times which the patients must endure is not the result of the doctors deciding upon the urgency of the diagnosis, rather it's the direct result of the public health care "system" which created the problem. Notice how the Canadians are willing to pay "out-of-pocket", to receive faster quality care through the private health insurance option.
in the past five years private health plans have grown at an average rate of 12% annually, testifying to the growing need for supplementary health insurance protection when the public system falls short.
http://www.cimca.ca/media/EmployeeBenefitNews-Feb07.pdf
If it costs money it cannot be a public service.
What, you think your brain drugs are free, guy?
Police cost money. Fire Departments cost money. Streets cost money.
But we don't charge people for them on by use basis. We charge everyone and make them available for those who need them.
Does the government provide it free to everyone? Since the answer to that is no, it is not a public service.
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most Doctors in Europe make half as much .....do you think a specialist averaging 500 thou a year is going to take a 50% pay cut?.....no i didnt think so....
most Doctors in Europe make half as much .....do you think a specialist averaging 500 thou a year is going to take a 50% pay cut?.....no i didnt think so....so Doctors should get paid by the taxpayers in the same pay bracket as the people you mention?....these people are what....30 thousand to what 75 thousand?.....yea....i can see Doctors going for that.....ok i hear ya....
Is that what doctors are paid in other countries with a single payer healthcare system? No, I didn't think so.
Basic education is afforded all Americans regardless of social status. Same goes for defense and other protective services, yes? I believe healthcare is one of the "basic services" all Americans should have equal access to regardless of their social status.
If you are wealthy or well off can you pay for a better education? Can you pay for additional protection? Works the same in my perfect healthcare world.
It is not the government that makes the decision as to the urgency of treatment. The medical professionals make that diagnosis.
The extended wait times which the patients must endure is not the result of the doctors deciding upon the urgency of the diagnosis, rather it's the direct result of the public health care "system" which created the problem. Notice how the Canadians are willing to pay "out-of-pocket", to receive faster quality care through the private health insurance option.
in the past five years private health plans have grown at an average rate of 12% annually, testifying to the growing need for supplementary health insurance protection when the public system falls short.
http://www.cimca.ca/media/EmployeeBenefitNews-Feb07.pdf
Your link is out-of-date. People in the USA also have to wait for treatments. If you need a kidney or a heart transplant you have to wait for a suitable donor organ. The same applies worldwide. When it comes to certain types of surgeries US insurance companies can order wait times before they will pay for them. So your insistence on only blaming the government for these wait times simply isn't correct.
The average wait times for appointments in Boston for cardiology are 21 days, dermatology 54 days, obstetrics-gynecology 70 days, orthopedic surgery 40 days, and family practice 63 days.
The average cumulative wait times for the 5 specialties just mentioned are,
Boston, 50 days
Philadelphia, 27 days
Los Angeles, 24 days
Houston, 23 days
Washington, D.C., 23 days
San Diego, 20 days
Minneapolis, 20 days
Dallas, 19 days
New York, 19 days
Denver, 15 days
Miami, 15 days
Portland, 14 days
Seattle, 14 days
Detroit, 12 days
Atlanta, 11 days
Medinnovation: Massachusetts - Doctor Wait Times, Costs, ER Visits in Massachusetts Climb
If you need a kidney or a heart transplant you have to wait for a suitable donor organIt is not the government that makes the decision as to the urgency of treatment. The medical professionals make that diagnosis.
The extended wait times which the patients must endure is not the result of the doctors deciding upon the urgency of the diagnosis, rather it's the direct result of the public health care "system" which created the problem. Notice how the Canadians are willing to pay "out-of-pocket", to receive faster quality care through the private health insurance option.
in the past five years private health plans have grown at an average rate of 12% annually, testifying to the growing need for supplementary health insurance protection when the public system falls short.
http://www.cimca.ca/media/EmployeeBenefitNews-Feb07.pdf
Your link is out-of-date. People in the USA also have to wait for treatments. If you need a kidney or a heart transplant you have to wait for a suitable donor organ. The same applies worldwide. When it comes to certain types of surgeries US insurance companies can order wait times before they will pay for them. So your insistence on only blaming the government for these wait times simply isn't correct.
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most Doctors in Europe make half as much .....do you think a specialist averaging 500 thou a year is going to take a 50% pay cut?.....no i didnt think so....
If you are a doctor so you can have a mansion and a yatch, you are a doctor for the wrong reason.
most Doctors in Europe make half as much .....do you think a specialist averaging 500 thou a year is going to take a 50% pay cut?.....no i didnt think so....
Is that what doctors are paid in other countries with a single payer healthcare system? No, I didn't think so.
Basic education is afforded all Americans regardless of social status. Same goes for defense and other protective services, yes? I believe healthcare is one of the "basic services" all Americans should have equal access to regardless of their social status.
If you are wealthy or well off can you pay for a better education? Can you pay for additional protection? Works the same in my perfect healthcare world.
If they are doing it for the money, they're doing it for the wrong reason. Doctors in UHC countries do just fine. A HUGE difference between our country and those is the cost of the education.
health care professionals in other O.E.C.D. countries pay much less (if anything) for their medical educations than do their American counterparts. In other words, doctors and nurses in the rest of the industrialized world start their medical careers with much less student loan debt compared to medical graduates in the United States.
How Much Do Doctors in Other Countries Make?
Oh, and on average it's about 35% less than other countries.
Are U.S. Doctors Paid Too Much?
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most Doctors in Europe make half as much .....do you think a specialist averaging 500 thou a year is going to take a 50% pay cut?.....no i didnt think so....
If you are a doctor so you can have a mansion and a yatch, you are a doctor for the wrong reason.
so why dont you answer the question Joe?.....will a Doctor right now Avg. 500 thousand a year take a 50% pay cut?....
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If you are a doctor so you can have a mansion and a yatch, you are a doctor for the wrong reason.
so why dont you answer the question Joe?.....will a Doctor right now Avg. 500 thousand a year take a 50% pay cut?....
Maybe, if s/he worked only 40 hours a week, got a months vacation each year, didn't need to pay insurance or rent office space and hire staff. The health care staff at Kaiser is an example.
And Kathleen Harris was given a seat in congress for suppressing the vote of black voters and cutting off the vote in Democratic counties.
oh for god sakes....
Wrong again. God had nothing to do with it, Money did, money supplied by those pleased with her partisan efforts to elect George W. Bush.
In june, 1966, just before Medicare went into effect, I started my career in the health insurance business. Everyone on the Right was crying about how health care will be rationed, and everyone would have to wait in long lines to be treated, and old people wouild die needlessly.
I am now on Medicare, and retired. I fell one night last month, and was seen at the urgent care center the next mormning at 8 AM. . Three days later, I was in an orthos' doctor's office, who got me a referral to an MRI 4 days later. Three days after that, I was in the ortho's doctor's office again, where I was diagnosed as having a torn rotator cuff. Nine days after that, I had surgery by the same ortho. I then had 2 follow up visits, before he took the stitches out. Total treatment time from the accident to the final visit was a total of 24 days. My total copays to all providers combined came to $405.
So, I have now been waiting since 1966 for this terrible medical disaster of rationed health care to hit me as a person insured under Medicare. Now, of course, I am hearing the same arguments, word for word, about what is going to happen under ACA, or if we were to adopt universal health care.
I guess that I am not too concerned about this "sky is falling" rhetoric, since it would appear that this disater is taking longer to develop than originally predicted, so I will be long gone before it acrtually happens.
Oh, and BTW. In America, whenever there is an unfilled need in an area, people flock to that profession, in order to fill that need. That is why my daugher is a nurse. She knows that she will always have a career and a job. Applications to medical schools are booming to fill this need. It is the American way.
becasue Medicare didn't outrun its budget by 400% in a decade?for god sakes....
Hasn't been rationed....Yet.In june, 1966, just before Medicare went into effect, I started my career in the health insurance business. Everyone on the Right was crying about how health care will be rationed, and everyone would have to wait in long lines to be treated, and old people wouild die needlessly.
Meanwhile, all they've done is pissed away the entirety of the OASI "trust fund", raised taxes and slashed reimbursements to keep it afloat....And even then it's bankrupt.
And that's supposed to be evidence of success.
most Doctors in Europe make half as much .....do you think a specialist averaging 500 thou a year is going to take a 50% pay cut?.....no i didnt think so....so Doctors should get paid by the taxpayers in the same pay bracket as the people you mention?....these people are what....30 thousand to what 75 thousand?.....yea....i can see Doctors going for that.....ok i hear ya....
Is that what doctors are paid in other countries with a single payer healthcare system? No, I didn't think so.
Basic education is afforded all Americans regardless of social status. Same goes for defense and other protective services, yes? I believe healthcare is one of the "basic services" all Americans should have equal access to regardless of their social status.
If you are wealthy or well off can you pay for a better education? Can you pay for additional protection? Works the same in my perfect healthcare world.
What, you think your brain drugs are free, guy?
Police cost money. Fire Departments cost money. Streets cost money.
But we don't charge people for them on by use basis. We charge everyone and make them available for those who need them.
Does the government provide it free to everyone? Since the answer to that is no, it is not a public service.
Never got charged for things when I called the cops, so I guess it was free. I guess if I abused the privilage, it would be something different.
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most Doctors in Europe make half as much .....do you think a specialist averaging 500 thou a year is going to take a 50% pay cut?.....no i didnt think so....
If you are a doctor so you can have a mansion and a yatch, you are a doctor for the wrong reason.
I guess getting an extended education and taking on a vocation to make money doesn't pass muster with you? 
The Republican Party (RP) is dying by its own hand. To be viable it needs to weed out extremists and understand a national party needs to represent all United States Citizens. At one time the party leaders pretended to have a big tent open to everyone; once that was proved ridiculous they dropped the tag-line and even the pretext of cultural pluralism.
There is no doubt that the RP is the party of Big Business and holds blue collar workers in disdain. Their policies exploit the low income worker, both non citizen immigrants and Americans citizens, and deceive the middle class with platitudes, false pathos and promises never fulfilled. They obfuscate issues with emotion laden propaganda and misuse words - making them pejoratives - to defame anyone who represents a threat to their one goal: Power.
Essentially the RP of today is built on a foundation of mendacity and is little different than the French Aristocracy before 1789. While the phrase, "let them eat cake" is apocryphal it exists today in the policies of the extreme members in GOP leadership, especially on the state level. Attacks on Unionism, demands that the poor pay more in taxes and the 'job creators' pay less, eliminating the minimum wage law, acting as if those in the legislatures know better then do doctors on the needs of health for women and children, building barriers to voting and that anyone who attempts to curtail the abuse of health insurers is a Communist, Socialist or Statist.
Unless the RP wakes up it will find itself a footnote in history.
