On the GOP

[Trajan]

I do believe the GOP is committing political suicide; what you mean by, "while you hold the dagger ready to plunge it into the heart of America" makes no sense.

It should make sense. You have a democrat in the White House. You willfully put that democrat in office twice without possibly considering the wide ranging implications of your decision. That is what I mean by "while you hold the dagger, ready to plunge it into the heart of America" if my euphemisms are too difficult for you to understand, that is something I cannot help you with.

So the scary black man in the White House is the equivlent to a dagger? When the guy really has been nothing but a moderate. He's more honest than Clinton and more competent than Bush.

I think you need to get over yourself.

JoeB131
Eisenhower Republican!
Member #31057


Since you went there; introducing race here is, the very last thing I would expect of an Eisenhower Republican.....I think you need to find another example, shameful.

 

[Oddball]

I do believe the GOP is committing political suicide; what you mean by, "while you hold the dagger ready to plunge it into the heart of America" makes no sense.

It should make sense. You have a democrat in the White House. You willfully put that democrat in office twice without possibly considering the wide ranging implications of your decision. That is what I mean by "while you hold the dagger, ready to plunge it into the heart of America" if my euphemisms are too difficult for you to understand, that is something I cannot help you with.

So the scary black man in the White House is the equivlent to a dagger? When the guy really has been nothing but a moderate. He's more honest than Clinton and more competent than Bush.

Brown acid....Quit taking it, you race baiting assclown.

I think you need to get over yourself.

See: Irony.

 

[JoeB131]

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JoeB131
Eisenhower Republican!
Member #31057

Since you went there; introducing race here is, the very last thing I would expect of an Eisenhower Republican.....I think you need to find another example, shameful.

90% of the hate for Obama is racism.

about 10% is over his actual policies.

Sorry, that's just the way I see it. But Ike was a Republican when they threw the crazies out rather than pander to them.

This is where the GOP went wrong, I think.

I didn't vote for Obama in 2008 because I thought McCain was more experienced.

I voted for him in 2012 becuase the GOP completely lost its mind somewhere in between.

I've been to dinner parties where people griped that their Facebook accounts got cancelled after they called Obama the "N-word", like they didn't do anything wrong.

The GOP needs to seriously fix itself. The first thing it needs to do is prove it's capable of governing, and not just pandering to the audience of the Rush Limbaugh Show.

 

[Harry Dresden]

why would I? I never claimed to be a Democrat. I merely choose them as there is no one else to choose because of the two-party system. Certainly you don't think I would side with the Republicans? They seem to be on the way out anyway as the OP asserts. By their own doing, I might add There doesn't seem to be too many groups left that they haven't already offended w/ their rw rhetoric

because you agreed with him when he said both parties should be abolished.......if you think both parties should go you should be an Independent or a third party person.....not someone always defending one of those parties....like you do...so quit your fucking bullshit "Dottie".....you know dam well you suck on the Democrats collective Asses.....

I vote to keep Repubs like Mcconnell & Cruz out. Not to mention the t-party tinfoilers like Angle, Buck, & O'Donnell as well. Guilty as charged. Them & their socon, bedroom-policing base I have mentioned that I will prolly stop voting for President if its the same group of wall st/defense contractor lobbyist- owned characters. You?

i have voted 3rd party the last 13 years .....you cant pin Obama or Bush on me....you?.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

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JoeB131
Eisenhower Republican!
Member #31057

Since you went there; introducing race here is, the very last thing I would expect of an Eisenhower Republican.....I think you need to find another example, shameful.

90% of the hate for Obama is racism.

about 10% is over his actual policies.

Sorry, that's just the way I see it. But Ike was a Republican when they threw the crazies out rather than pander to them.

This is where the GOP went wrong, I think.

I didn't vote for Obama in 2008 because I thought McCain was more experienced.

I voted for him in 2012 becuase the GOP completely lost its mind somewhere in between.

I've been to dinner parties where people griped that their Facebook accounts got cancelled after they called Obama the "N-word", like they didn't do anything wrong.

The GOP needs to seriously fix itself. The first thing it needs to do is prove it's capable of governing, and not just pandering to the audience of the Rush Limbaugh Show.

90% of the hate for Obama is racism.

about 10% is over his actual policies.
you sound like Poet and Dean now Joe.....

 

[JoeB131]

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The GOP needs to seriously fix itself. The first thing it needs to do is prove it's capable of governing, and not just pandering to the audience of the Rush Limbaugh Show.

90% of the hate for Obama is racism.

about 10% is over his actual policies.
you sound like Poet and Dean now Joe.....

Maybe.

Doesn't make it less true.

Frankly, this is the first time I've seen someone try to claim that a president wasn't born in this country and was therefore holding the office illegally.

 

[JoeB131]

I'll go one further. Last year I set up a poll to see how many people really sincerely believed in BIrther conspiracy theories.

About a quarter of respondants here on USMB did. Another quarter voted "I'm not sure", which was just a copout.

Now, what I like about USMB is that it isn't like a TownHall or a DailyKos where one side dominates and just validates its own crazy. You have real discussion here.

But one quarter of USMB posters really think Obama was born in Kenya, and there's been a half-century conspiracy to cover that up?

 

[Stephanie]

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JoeB131
Eisenhower Republican!
Member #31057

Since you went there; introducing race here is, the very last thing I would expect of an Eisenhower Republican.....I think you need to find another example, shameful.

90% of the hate for Obama is racism.

about 10% is over his actual policies.

Sorry, that's just the way I see it. But Ike was a Republican when they threw the crazies out rather than pander to them.

This is where the GOP went wrong, I think.

I didn't vote for Obama in 2008 because I thought McCain was more experienced.

I voted for him in 2012 becuase the GOP completely lost its mind somewhere in between.

I've been to dinner parties where people griped that their Facebook accounts got cancelled after they called Obama the "N-word", like they didn't do anything wrong.

The GOP needs to seriously fix itself. The first thing it needs to do is prove it's capable of governing, and not just pandering to the audience of the Rush Limbaugh Show.

Oh brother, 90% is racism...do you include those who voted for him and now disapprove of him? you are so full it...I don't like him as a person because for one he is a cold arrogant pos who has done nothing but stir up hate especially against Republicans... who right off the bat, it was MY WAY I won and you can get in the back of bus....I also don't like his vision of wanting to TRANSFORM OUR country, why would he want to do that? Because he hates our country and us..as for his skin color I wouldn't like him if he as white, blue, or polka dotted
so you can take your 90% who hate him is RACISM and blow it out you blowhole..
And there isn't one damn thing Moderate about Obama, he so far to left he into Socialism and more like fascism tyrant

 

[JoeB131]

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Oh brother, 90% is racism...do you include those who voted for him and now disapprove of him? you are so full it...I don't like him as a person because for one he is a cold arrogant pos who has done nothing but stir up hate especially against Republicans who right off the bat, it was MY WAY I won and you can get in the back of bus....I also don't like his vision of wanting to TRANSFORM OUR country, why would he want to do that? Because he hates our country and us..as for his skin color I wouldn't like him if he as white, blue, or polka dotted
so you can take your 90% who hate him is RACISM and blow it out you blowhole

How is that any different than Bush saying shit like 'I'm the decider" and "If you aren't with us, you are with the terrorists".

As for him "transforming" the country, frankly, there's a lot about this country that needs to be fixed. And a lot of people agreed with him it needed to be done.

 

[Trajan]

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JoeB131
Eisenhower Republican!
Member #31057

Since you went there; introducing race here is, the very last thing I would expect of an Eisenhower Republican.....I think you need to find another example, shameful.

90% of the hate for Obama is racism.

thats an easy thing to tell yourself and imho, the laziest to boot. I have no idea why you believe it........


Just becasue hes black doesn't give him some proof against criticism etc. and please, before you go there, Bush was excoriated/trashed like no other, not even Reagan and I have been reading, 'in the present of that time' and engaged in politics since 1974, the gop has a hard on for him because hes a democrat and the president, its really that simple.

The gop is doing what the out of power party does; dems did same in the 2000's and the gop did during Clinton terms, and so it goes all the way back to the screeds written against Jefferson by Hamilton ( anonymously) in the National Gazette......

about 10% is over his actual policies.

Sorry, that's just the way I see it. But Ike was a Republican when they threw the crazies out rather than pander to them.

This is where the GOP went wrong, I think.

I didn't vote for Obama in 2008 because I thought McCain was more experienced.

I voted for him in 2012 becuase the GOP completely lost its mind somewhere in between.

I've been to dinner parties where people griped that their Facebook accounts got cancelled after they called Obama the "N-word", like they didn't do anything wrong.

The GOP needs to seriously fix itself. The first thing it needs to do is prove it's capable of governing, and not just pandering to the audience of the Rush Limbaugh Show.

I didn't vote for McCain or Obama , I wrote in ron paul.....


you go to 'dinner parties', where in people tell you they called obama a ****** really? sounds to me you might want to think about hanging out with a better class of folks....my word.

Oh and they close accounts for that? really? sounds like to me like facebook its self may have issues, those folks may be racist morons but they have a right to say what they say, do they close accounts for folks calling Bush Hitler?

and that remark about governing, well they are not in power right now.....and rush limbaugh, whenever someone throws that out there I tune out, I cannot take that seriously.

 

[Dot Com]

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JoeB131
Eisenhower Republican!
Member #31057

Since you went there; introducing race here is, the very last thing I would expect of an Eisenhower Republican.....I think you need to find another example, shameful.

90% of the hate for Obama is racism.

about 10% is over his actual policies.

Sorry, that's just the way I see it. But Ike was a Republican when they threw the crazies out rather than pander to them.

This is where the GOP went wrong, I think.

I didn't vote for Obama in 2008 because I thought McCain was more experienced.

I voted for him in 2012 becuase the GOP completely lost its mind somewhere in between.

I've been to dinner parties where people griped that their Facebook accounts got cancelled after they called Obama the "N-word", like they didn't do anything wrong.

The GOP needs to seriously fix itself. The first thing it needs to do is prove it's capable of governing, and not just pandering to the audience of the Rush Limbaugh Show.

they used to try to marginalize the crazies. Now they're embracing them. Sadly, they have to because, in Graham's words “The demographics race we’re losing badly,” said Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.). “We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term.”
http://gawker.com/5939404/sen-lindsey-graham-not-enough-angry-white-guys-to-sustain-gop

 

[Trajan]

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Oh brother, 90% is racism...do you include those who voted for him and now disapprove of him? you are so full it...I don't like him as a person because for one he is a cold arrogant pos who has done nothing but stir up hate especially against Republicans who right off the bat, it was MY WAY I won and you can get in the back of bus....I also don't like his vision of wanting to TRANSFORM OUR country, why would he want to do that? Because he hates our country and us..as for his skin color I wouldn't like him if he as white, blue, or polka dotted
so you can take your 90% who hate him is RACISM and blow it out you blowhole

How is that any different than Bush saying shit like 'I'm the decider" and "If you aren't with us, you are with the terrorists".

As for him "transforming" the country, frankly, there's a lot about this country that needs to be fixed. And a lot of people agreed with him it needed to be done.

those quotes by bush you're using have no contextual relation to the time and place obama said 'I won' etc. Please....

 

[Dot Com]

Looks like the only thing that is going to keep them relevant, in the long- term, is voter suppression.

 

[Trajan]

Looks like the only thing that is going to keep them relevant, in the long- term, is voter suppression.

oh right, thats the issue where in Stevens found it legally viable and not an undue burden vis a vis the risk?

or is there some other BS you have to peddle?

 

[JoeB131]

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thats an easy thing to tell yourself and imho, the laziest to boot. I have no idea why you believe it........

You mean besides discussion with some of our resident haters like Staph, Matthew, Daveman, a few folks who got their accounts banned when they went over the lines?

Just becasue hes black doesn't give him some proof against criticism etc. and please, before you go there, Bush was excoriated/trashed like no other, not even Reagan and I have been reading, 'in the present of that time' and engaged in politics since 1974, the gop has a hard on for him because hes a democrat and the president, its really that simple.

No one ever questioned Reagan's legitimacy or where he was born or that any element of his biography was other than what he claimed it was. Bush was trashed, but that was because of valid things like stealing an election (Yes, 2000 was stolen!) and getting us into a war on false pretenses.

Obama, on the other hand, was apparently the result of a conspiracy to put a Kenyan in the White House. Yup, his parents lied about where he was born, knowing in 50 years, he could run for president.

The gop is doing what the out of power party does; dems did same in the 2000's and the gop did during Clinton terms, and so it goes all the way back to the screeds written against Jefferson by Hamilton ( anonymously) in the National Gazette......

What the GOP is doing is far beyond politics. There is a point where you stop the bullshit and actually do your job, which is to make sure that the legistlation gets passed and the government functions. You don't play chicken with the national debt and get the country's credit rating downgraded.

I didn't vote for McCain or Obama , I wrote in ron paul.....

I hope you are joking.

you go to 'dinner parties', where in people tell you they called obama a ****** really? sounds to me you might want to think about hanging out with a better class of folks....my word.

Actually, these are friends of my brothers, not really friends of mine, but here's the thing. This is the White Middle class Chicago Suburb I grew up in. And, yeah, a lot of people think like that.

Oh and they close accounts for that? really? sounds like to me like facebook its self may have issues, those folks may be racist morons but they have a right to say what they say, do they close accounts for folks calling Bush Hitler?

No, I really think using the most hateful epitath in the English language is a little worse than comparing a politician- any politician- to Hitler.

and that remark about governing, well they are not in power right now.....and rush limbaugh, whenever someone throws that out there I tune out, I cannot take that seriously.

They do control the house and some of the governships. Again, going back up to my above statement, there is a point where you sit down and get the job done.

I agree, Rush Limbaugh should never be taken seriously, but the GOP lives in mortal fear of him. And that's the problem.

 

[Stephanie]

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thats an easy thing to tell yourself and imho, the laziest to boot. I have no idea why you believe it........

You mean besides discussion with some of our resident haters like Staph, Matthew, Daveman, a few folks who got their accounts banned when they went over the lines?

Just becasue hes black doesn't give him some proof against criticism etc. and please, before you go there, Bush was excoriated/trashed like no other, not even Reagan and I have been reading, 'in the present of that time' and engaged in politics since 1974, the gop has a hard on for him because hes a democrat and the president, its really that simple.

No one ever questioned Reagan's legitimacy or where he was born or that any element of his biography was other than what he claimed it was. Bush was trashed, but that was because of valid things like stealing an election (Yes, 2000 was stolen!) and getting us into a war on false pretenses.

Obama, on the other hand, was apparently the result of a conspiracy to put a Kenyan in the White House. Yup, his parents lied about where he was born, knowing in 50 years, he could run for president.



What the GOP is doing is far beyond politics. There is a point where you stop the bullshit and actually do your job, which is to make sure that the legistlation gets passed and the government functions. You don't play chicken with the national debt and get the country's credit rating downgraded.




I hope you are joking.




Actually, these are friends of my brothers, not really friends of mine, but here's the thing. This is the White Middle class Chicago Suburb I grew up in. And, yeah, a lot of people think like that.

Oh and they close accounts for that? really? sounds like to me like facebook its self may have issues, those folks may be racist morons but they have a right to say what they say, do they close accounts for folks calling Bush Hitler?

No, I really think using the most hateful epitath in the English language is a little worse than comparing a politician- any politician- to Hitler.

and that remark about governing, well they are not in power right now.....and rush limbaugh, whenever someone throws that out there I tune out, I cannot take that seriously.

They do control the house and some of the governships. Again, going back up to my above statement, there is a point where you sit down and get the job done.

I agree, Rush Limbaugh should never be taken seriously, but the GOP lives in mortal fear of him. And that's the problem.

you can keep me out of your hateful postings, I just tell it how I see it no sugar coating it..that is how I am...and I have never been banned, put on probation or anything else because I stepped over a line in the Nine years I have been on this board..
now you, if they could of reached through their computer they should of put tape on you typewriter keys or something a few times...

 

[Wry Catcher]

It should make sense. You have a democrat in the White House. You willfully put that democrat in office twice without possibly considering the wide ranging implications of your decision. That is what I mean by "while you hold the dagger, ready to plunge it into the heart of America" if my euphemisms are too difficult for you to understand, that is something I cannot help you with.

So the scary black man in the White House is the equivlent to a dagger? When the guy really has been nothing but a moderate. He's more honest than Clinton and more competent than Bush.

Brown acid....Quit taking it, you race baiting assclown.

I think you need to get over yourself.

See: Irony.

No, JoeB is right. Odd-dude is an arrogant. obnoxious piece of shit. Notice he never posts anything beyond a sentence, and every sentence is framed with an ad hominem attack and nonsensical words, usually pejoratives without any substance.

 

[JoeB131]

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you can keep me out of your hateful postings, I just tell it how I see it no sugar coating it..that is how I am...and I have never been banned, put on probation or anything else because I stepped over a line in the Nine years I have been on this board..
now you, if they could of reached through their computer they should of put tape on you typewriter keys or something a few times...

Just because on one has taken sanctions against you doesn't make your bile any less hateful.

 

[Harry Dresden]

I'll go one further. Last year I set up a poll to see how many people really sincerely believed in BIrther conspiracy theories.

About a quarter of respondants here on USMB did. Another quarter voted "I'm not sure", which was just a copout.

Now, what I like about USMB is that it isn't like a TownHall or a DailyKos where one side dominates and just validates its own crazy. You have real discussion here.

But one quarter of USMB posters really think Obama was born in Kenya, and there's been a half-century conspiracy to cover that up?

well i dont believe that shit.....if it was true by now someone would have had proof.....

 

[JoeB131]

I'll go one further. Last year I set up a poll to see how many people really sincerely believed in BIrther conspiracy theories.

About a quarter of respondants here on USMB did. Another quarter voted "I'm not sure", which was just a copout.

Now, what I like about USMB is that it isn't like a TownHall or a DailyKos where one side dominates and just validates its own crazy. You have real discussion here.

But one quarter of USMB posters really think Obama was born in Kenya, and there's been a half-century conspiracy to cover that up?

well i dont believe that shit.....if it was true by now someone would have had proof.....

But that's the beauty of conspiracy theories, my friend.

You don't need "Proof".

Roswell aliens, Moon landing was faked, JFK was killed by (Fill in the blank), 9/11 was an inside job.

Obama was born in Kenya. Any evidence to the contrary is fake.