On this, I'd side with Trump....

[nat4900]

I know my left-leaning friends on here would disagree with me, but what Jorge Ramos did last night at Trump's IA news conference should be unacceptable to all.
Ramos, I felt, was not there as a reporter, but as a provocateur for his own self-aggrandizement. We all know that at news conferences reporters ask questions that should end with a question mark.....Ramos instead made statements regarding what Trump could not (or should not) do.

Although Trump at first reacted as a bully toward Ramos, the later exchange showed some measure of reconciliation.

I am FAR, FAR from a supporter of Trump's campaign tactics and antics, but self-serving reporters like Ramos (and M. Kelly, for that matter) actually help Trump's image and the kind of boisterous attitude that has actually propelled this guy to the top of the polls where he should not be.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I wouldn't say that I "side with Trump", but you're right that Ramos' outburst plays right into Trump's hands.

 

[Jackson]

I know my left-leaning friends on here would disagree with me, but what Jorge Ramos did last night at Trump's IA news conference should be unacceptable to all.
Ramos, I felt, was not there as a reporter, but as a provocateur for his own self-aggrandizement. We all know that at news conferences reporters ask questions that should end with a question mark.....Ramos instead made statements regarding what Trump could not (or should not) do.

Although Trump at first reacted as a bully toward Ramos, the later exchange showed some measure of reconciliation.

I am FAR, FAR from a supporter of Trump's campaign tactics and antics, but self-serving reporters like Ramos (and M. Kelly, for that matter) actually help Trump's image and the kind of boisterous attitude that has actually propelled this guy to the top of the polls where he should not be.

The fact that Ramos did not introduce a question is very astute of you. I felt that Ramos was more of an activist wanting his share of the limelight. Journalism was an after thought.

 

[Jackson]

I wouldn't say that I "side with Trump", but you're right that Ramos' outburst plays right into Trump's hands.

As did Megyn Kelly's performance at the debates. Thank you for your honesty.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I wouldn't say that I "side with Trump", but you're right that Ramos' outburst plays right into Trump's hands.

As did Megyn Kelly's performance at the debates. Thank you for your honesty.

In retrospect, it seems to have.

But that's more of a commentary on Trump's fanclub than anything else.

 

[Jackson]

I wouldn't say that I "side with Trump", but you're right that Ramos' outburst plays right into Trump's hands.

As did Megyn Kelly's performance at the debates. Thank you for your honesty.

In retrospect, it seems to have.

But that's more of a commentary on Trump's fanclub than anything else.

Actually, I think it was a reflection of the people and their anger at the establishment Republican party. It was seen a manipulating the result of the debate and that just was not sitting well with the voters. Trump was not popular until that night. For them, it was opening Pandora's box.

 

[Derideo_Te]

If anything Ramos was giving T-Rump a taste of his own medicine and T-Rump didn't like it at all.

By grandstanding Ramos managed to focus the attention on himself instead of T-Rump.

He did what T-Rump does and simply talked over him.

So my question to the OP is why is it fine for T-Rump to be an obnoxious bully but not for Ramos?

Interesting to note that T-Rump then lied about Ramos after he had him evicted. (T-Rump is suing Ramos personally in his $500 million lawsuit against Univision so he does know who he is even though he told reporters that he didn't.) T-Rump even lied about having Ramos evicted when he clearly signaled to his security team to evict him.

Ramos might not have covered himself with glory by acting like T-Rump but he stood up to a bully and for that he deserves credit IMO.

 

[DarkFury]

I know my left-leaning friends on here would disagree with me, but what Jorge Ramos did last night at Trump's IA news conference should be unacceptable to all.
Ramos, I felt, was not there as a reporter, but as a provocateur for his own self-aggrandizement. We all know that at news conferences reporters ask questions that should end with a question mark.....Ramos instead made statements regarding what Trump could not (or should not) do.

Although Trump at first reacted as a bully toward Ramos, the later exchange showed some measure of reconciliation.

I am FAR, FAR from a supporter of Trump's campaign tactics and antics, but self-serving reporters like Ramos (and M. Kelly, for that matter) actually help Trump's image and the kind of boisterous attitude that has actually propelled this guy to the top of the polls where he should not be.

The press has met the man who is not afraid and that not afraid includes the press.

 

[Ravi]

Ramos instead made statements regarding what Trump could not (or should not) do.

Link, please.

 

[DarkFury]

If anything Ramos was giving T-Rump a taste of his own medicine and T-Rump didn't like it at all.

By grandstanding Ramos managed to focus the attention on himself instead of T-Rump.

He did what T-Rump does and simply talked over him.

So my question to the OP is why is it fine for T-Rump to be an obnoxious bully but not for Ramos?

Interesting to note that T-Rump then lied about Ramos after he had him evicted. (T-Rump is suing Ramos personally in his $500 million lawsuit against Univision so he does know who he is even though he told reporters that he didn't.) T-Rump even lied about having Ramos evicted when he clearly signaled to his security team to evict him.

Ramos might not have covered himself with glory by acting like T-Rump but he stood up to a bully and for that he deserves credit IMO.

He was there to REPORT the news IDIOT not make the news.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

If anything Ramos was giving T-Rump a taste of his own medicine and T-Rump didn't like it at all.

By grandstanding Ramos managed to focus the attention on himself instead of T-Rump.

He did what T-Rump does and simply talked over him.

So my question to the OP is why is it fine for T-Rump to be an obnoxious bully but not for Ramos?

Interesting to note that T-Rump then lied about Ramos after he had him evicted. (T-Rump is suing Ramos personally in his $500 million lawsuit against Univision so he does know who he is even though he told reporters that he didn't.) T-Rump even lied about having Ramos evicted when he clearly signaled to his security team to evict him.

Ramos might not have covered himself with glory by acting like T-Rump but he stood up to a bully and for that he deserves credit IMO.

A reporters job is to ask questions, not make statements.

I have a third grade grand-daughter that could explain it to you if you'd like?

 

[Derideo_Te]

If anything Ramos was giving T-Rump a taste of his own medicine and T-Rump didn't like it at all.

By grandstanding Ramos managed to focus the attention on himself instead of T-Rump.

He did what T-Rump does and simply talked over him.

So my question to the OP is why is it fine for T-Rump to be an obnoxious bully but not for Ramos?

Interesting to note that T-Rump then lied about Ramos after he had him evicted. (T-Rump is suing Ramos personally in his $500 million lawsuit against Univision so he does know who he is even though he told reporters that he didn't.) T-Rump even lied about having Ramos evicted when he clearly signaled to his security team to evict him.

Ramos might not have covered himself with glory by acting like T-Rump but he stood up to a bully and for that he deserves credit IMO.

He was there to REPORT the news IDIOT not make the news.

Asking questions is a legitimate aspect of being a reporter.

O'Reilly used obnoxious "ambush reporting" to make a name for himself. Why was it OK for him to be obnoxious but not a Hispanic reporter?

 

[DarkFury]

If anything Ramos was giving T-Rump a taste of his own medicine and T-Rump didn't like it at all.

By grandstanding Ramos managed to focus the attention on himself instead of T-Rump.

He did what T-Rump does and simply talked over him.

So my question to the OP is why is it fine for T-Rump to be an obnoxious bully but not for Ramos?

Interesting to note that T-Rump then lied about Ramos after he had him evicted. (T-Rump is suing Ramos personally in his $500 million lawsuit against Univision so he does know who he is even though he told reporters that he didn't.) T-Rump even lied about having Ramos evicted when he clearly signaled to his security team to evict him.

Ramos might not have covered himself with glory by acting like T-Rump but he stood up to a bully and for that he deserves credit IMO.

He was there to REPORT the news IDIOT not make the news.

Asking questions is a legitimate aspect of being a reporter.

O'Reilly used obnoxious "ambush reporting" to make a name for himself. Why was it OK for him to be obnoxious but not a Hispanic reporter?

What's with this STRAWMAN argument using O'Reilly? He does not even belong in the debate. You got the issue and there IS a tape of it. OH, your just avoiding the topic by TRYING to derail the subject and PROJECT another way so YOU don't have to face facts.

Grow up clown trash, would you?

 

[Derideo_Te]

If anything Ramos was giving T-Rump a taste of his own medicine and T-Rump didn't like it at all.

By grandstanding Ramos managed to focus the attention on himself instead of T-Rump.

He did what T-Rump does and simply talked over him.

So my question to the OP is why is it fine for T-Rump to be an obnoxious bully but not for Ramos?

Interesting to note that T-Rump then lied about Ramos after he had him evicted. (T-Rump is suing Ramos personally in his $500 million lawsuit against Univision so he does know who he is even though he told reporters that he didn't.) T-Rump even lied about having Ramos evicted when he clearly signaled to his security team to evict him.

Ramos might not have covered himself with glory by acting like T-Rump but he stood up to a bully and for that he deserves credit IMO.

He was there to REPORT the news IDIOT not make the news.

Asking questions is a legitimate aspect of being a reporter.

O'Reilly used obnoxious "ambush reporting" to make a name for himself. Why was it OK for him to be obnoxious but not a Hispanic reporter?

What's with this STRAWMAN argument using O'Reilly? He does not even belong in the debate. You got the issue and there IS a tape of it. OH, your just avoiding the topic by TRYING to derail the subject and PROJECT another way so YOU don't have to face facts.

Grow up clown trash, would you?

Using an example is a perfectly legitimate means to make a point in a debate, baby huey.

That you can't refute the point says volumes.

 

[JakeStarkey]

I wouldn't say that I "side with Trump", but you're right that Ramos' outburst plays right into Trump's hands.

As did Megyn Kelly's performance at the debates. Thank you for your honesty.

In retrospect, it seems to have.

But that's more of a commentary on Trump's fanclub than anything else.

Actually, I think it was a reflection of the people and their anger at the establishment Republican party. It was seen a manipulating the result of the debate and that just was not sitting well with the voters. Trump was not popular until that night. For them, it was opening Pandora's box.

Less than 1/3d of polled GOP voters select Trump. That is about 10% of the electorate. Ramos will not make Trump any more popular. DT has to finesse the immigration issue more than he has been able.

 

[tinydancer]

Ramos is a fucking activist pretending to be a journalist.

His daughter works for Hillary Clinton for crying out loud. What an asshole.

 

[nat4900]

So my question to the OP is why is it fine for T-Rump to be an obnoxious bully but not for Ramos?

My friend, reporters (or at least, wanna-be reporters) should NOT act like Trump in his bellicose way; to do so, only helps Trump's image as a "courageous" candidate...perpetuating the delusion for right wing voters of a non-nonsense "messiah" (remember that term as it was used on Obama?)
Ramos' poor performance only helped Trump's image.

 

[DarkFury]

If anything Ramos was giving T-Rump a taste of his own medicine and T-Rump didn't like it at all.

By grandstanding Ramos managed to focus the attention on himself instead of T-Rump.

He did what T-Rump does and simply talked over him.

So my question to the OP is why is it fine for T-Rump to be an obnoxious bully but not for Ramos?

Interesting to note that T-Rump then lied about Ramos after he had him evicted. (T-Rump is suing Ramos personally in his $500 million lawsuit against Univision so he does know who he is even though he told reporters that he didn't.) T-Rump even lied about having Ramos evicted when he clearly signaled to his security team to evict him.

Ramos might not have covered himself with glory by acting like T-Rump but he stood up to a bully and for that he deserves credit IMO.

He was there to REPORT the news IDIOT not make the news.

Asking questions is a legitimate aspect of being a reporter.

O'Reilly used obnoxious "ambush reporting" to make a name for himself. Why was it OK for him to be obnoxious but not a Hispanic reporter?

What's with this STRAWMAN argument using O'Reilly? He does not even belong in the debate. You got the issue and there IS a tape of it. OH, your just avoiding the topic by TRYING to derail the subject and PROJECT another way so YOU don't have to face facts.

Grow up clown trash, would you?

Using an example is a perfectly legitimate means to make a point in a debate, baby huey.

That you can't refute the point says volumes.

It's NOT legit clown trash now get on topic. That reporter was there to REPORT the news right IDIOT?
Are reporter supposed to make the news IDIOT?

 

[tinydancer]

Going to start a thread on this in media but here's some info that could explain Ramos's activism.

It sure as hell was not journalism.

SURPRISE! Jorge Ramos’s daughter works for Hillary campaign

SURPRISE! Jorge Ramos’s daughter works for Hillary campaign
August 26, 2015
By Kyle Olson

 

[Ravi]

If anything Ramos was giving T-Rump a taste of his own medicine and T-Rump didn't like it at all.

By grandstanding Ramos managed to focus the attention on himself instead of T-Rump.

He did what T-Rump does and simply talked over him.

So my question to the OP is why is it fine for T-Rump to be an obnoxious bully but not for Ramos?

Interesting to note that T-Rump then lied about Ramos after he had him evicted. (T-Rump is suing Ramos personally in his $500 million lawsuit against Univision so he does know who he is even though he told reporters that he didn't.) T-Rump even lied about having Ramos evicted when he clearly signaled to his security team to evict him.

Ramos might not have covered himself with glory by acting like T-Rump but he stood up to a bully and for that he deserves credit IMO.

He was there to REPORT the news IDIOT not make the news.

Asking questions is a legitimate aspect of being a reporter.

O'Reilly used obnoxious "ambush reporting" to make a name for himself. Why was it OK for him to be obnoxious but not a Hispanic reporter?

What's with this STRAWMAN argument using O'Reilly? He does not even belong in the debate. You got the issue and there IS a tape of it. OH, your just avoiding the topic by TRYING to derail the subject and PROJECT another way so YOU don't have to face facts.

Grow up clown trash, would you?

Using an example is a perfectly legitimate means to make a point in a debate, baby huey.

That you can't refute the point says volumes.

It's NOT legit clown trash now get on topic. That reporter was there to REPORT the news right IDIOT?
Are reporter supposed to make the news IDIOT?

It was a press conference. The presses job at a press conference is to ask questions. Which is what Ramos did.