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If anything Ramos was giving T-Rump a taste of his own medicine and T-Rump didn't like it at all.
By grandstanding Ramos managed to focus the attention on himself instead of T-Rump.
He did what T-Rump does and simply talked over him.
So my question to the OP is why is it fine for T-Rump to be an obnoxious bully but not for Ramos?
Interesting to note that T-Rump then lied about Ramos after he had him evicted. (T-Rump is suing Ramos personally in his $500 million lawsuit against Univision so he does know who he is even though he told reporters that he didn't.) T-Rump even lied about having Ramos evicted when he clearly signaled to his security team to evict him.
Ramos might not have covered himself with glory by acting like T-Rump but he stood up to a bully and for that he deserves credit IMO.
A reporters job is to ask questions, not make statements.
I have a third grade grand-daughter that could explain it to you if you'd like?
If anything Ramos was giving T-Rump a taste of his own medicine and T-Rump didn't like it at all.
By grandstanding Ramos managed to focus the attention on himself instead of T-Rump.
He did what T-Rump does and simply talked over him.
So my question to the OP is why is it fine for T-Rump to be an obnoxious bully but not for Ramos?
Interesting to note that T-Rump then lied about Ramos after he had him evicted. (T-Rump is suing Ramos personally in his $500 million lawsuit against Univision so he does know who he is even though he told reporters that he didn't.) T-Rump even lied about having Ramos evicted when he clearly signaled to his security team to evict him.
Ramos might not have covered himself with glory by acting like T-Rump but he stood up to a bully and for that he deserves credit IMO.
It doesn't have anything to do with 'left' or 'right,' it doesn't have anything to do with Ramos being 'right or 'wrong,' it has to do with the fact that Trump once again mishandled the situation, and provided further confirmation of the fact that the GOP is fundamentally hostile to Hispanic immigrants, driving more of the Latino vote from republicans and into the arms of democrats.I know my left-leaning friends on here would disagree with me, but what Jorge Ramos did last night at Trump's IA news conference should be unacceptable to all.
Ramos, I felt, was not there as a reporter, but as a provocateur for his own self-aggrandizement. We all know that at news conferences reporters ask questions that should end with a question mark.....Ramos instead made statements regarding what Trump could not (or should not) do.
Although Trump at first reacted as a bully toward Ramos, the later exchange showed some measure of reconciliation.
I am FAR, FAR from a supporter of Trump's campaign tactics and antics, but self-serving reporters like Ramos (and M. Kelly, for that matter) actually help Trump's image and the kind of boisterous attitude that has actually propelled this guy to the top of the polls where he should not be.
If anything Ramos was giving T-Rump a taste of his own medicine and T-Rump didn't like it at all.
By grandstanding Ramos managed to focus the attention on himself instead of T-Rump.
He did what T-Rump does and simply talked over him.
So my question to the OP is why is it fine for T-Rump to be an obnoxious bully but not for Ramos?
Interesting to note that T-Rump then lied about Ramos after he had him evicted. (T-Rump is suing Ramos personally in his $500 million lawsuit against Univision so he does know who he is even though he told reporters that he didn't.) T-Rump even lied about having Ramos evicted when he clearly signaled to his security team to evict him.
Ramos might not have covered himself with glory by acting like T-Rump but he stood up to a bully and for that he deserves credit IMO.
So you watched the Rachel Maddow show too?
That is exactly what she said on her show.
Now that I've seen the whole thing, I'm a little surprised at the relative restraint Trump showed, and how much effort he put into answering the obviously hostile questions.
I would have expected him to lay into the guy.
Ramos obviously suffers from the same malady as many in the American press, a need to push an agenda and make himself part of the story at any cost.
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Agreed, but I'm STILL surprised he didn't go ape shit on the guy. It's been interesting to see the pundits giving him some grudging respect for the way he's "handling the media". Personally I don't see it, but I guess that's how they're perceiving it.Now that I've seen the whole thing, I'm a little surprised at the relative restraint Trump showed, and how much effort he put into answering the obviously hostile questions.
I would have expected him to lay into the guy.
Ramos obviously suffers from the same malady as many in the American press, a need to push an agenda and make himself part of the story at any cost.
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T-Rump, to give him credit where it is due, picked up on the fact that the rest of the press corp were not happy about evicting Ramos so he was trying to be make amends. He knew that he had overstepped the bounds and was trying not to make it any worse. Besides which he had just told them that he would answer Ramos's questions so he had boxed himself in.
Now that I've seen the whole thing, I'm a little surprised at the relative restraint Trump showed, and how much effort he put into answering the obviously hostile questions.
I would have expected him to lay into the guy.
Ramos obviously suffers from the same malady as many in the American press, a need to push an agenda and make himself part of the story at any cost.
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No he was there as an activist shouting out opinions not questions.He was there to REPORT the news IDIOT not make the news.If anything Ramos was giving T-Rump a taste of his own medicine and T-Rump didn't like it at all.
By grandstanding Ramos managed to focus the attention on himself instead of T-Rump.
He did what T-Rump does and simply talked over him.
So my question to the OP is why is it fine for T-Rump to be an obnoxious bully but not for Ramos?
Interesting to note that T-Rump then lied about Ramos after he had him evicted. (T-Rump is suing Ramos personally in his $500 million lawsuit against Univision so he does know who he is even though he told reporters that he didn't.) T-Rump even lied about having Ramos evicted when he clearly signaled to his security team to evict him.
Ramos might not have covered himself with glory by acting like T-Rump but he stood up to a bully and for that he deserves credit IMO.
Indeed, and he succeeded at what he was doing: demonizing Trump to the Latinos.No he was there as an activist shouting out opinions not questions.He was there to REPORT the news IDIOT not make the news.If anything Ramos was giving T-Rump a taste of his own medicine and T-Rump didn't like it at all.
By grandstanding Ramos managed to focus the attention on himself instead of T-Rump.
He did what T-Rump does and simply talked over him.
So my question to the OP is why is it fine for T-Rump to be an obnoxious bully but not for Ramos?
Interesting to note that T-Rump then lied about Ramos after he had him evicted. (T-Rump is suing Ramos personally in his $500 million lawsuit against Univision so he does know who he is even though he told reporters that he didn't.) T-Rump even lied about having Ramos evicted when he clearly signaled to his security team to evict him.
Ramos might not have covered himself with glory by acting like T-Rump but he stood up to a bully and for that he deserves credit IMO.
Nope, everybody in the business knows who and what Jorge was about. Morning Joe's folks criticized him, but basically said "jorge being jorge", and Jorge's credentials in the Hispanic world is sky high.Well good folks, for me the bottom line is this:
If Trump wanted to show his base that he was "tough" on anyone who challenges his policies.......He got that point across.
If Ramos wanted to show Latinos that Trump was a bully, he "sacrificed" his reporter's credentials.......and got that point across.
It was a press conference. The presses job at a press conference is to ask questions. Which is what Ramos did.It's NOT legit clown trash now get on topic. That reporter was there to REPORT the news right IDIOT?What's with this STRAWMAN argument using O'Reilly? He does not even belong in the debate. You got the issue and there IS a tape of it. OH, your just avoiding the topic by TRYING to derail the subject and PROJECT another way so YOU don't have to face facts.He was there to REPORT the news IDIOT not make the news.
Asking questions is a legitimate aspect of being a reporter.
O'Reilly used obnoxious "ambush reporting" to make a name for himself. Why was it OK for him to be obnoxious but not a Hispanic reporter?
Grow up clown trash, would you?
Using an example is a perfectly legitimate means to make a point in a debate, baby huey.
That you can't refute the point says volumes.
Are reporter supposed to make the news IDIOT?
